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@  Robowang : (24 April 2017 - 11:53 AM)

Menasor's problem is that his crotch is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high. I couldn't care less about those other issues. If your dong is a chestburster, something ain't right.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:40 AM)

Seems like all the combiners have an issue like that, the legs can never be completely straight in combined mode, the finished big bot is always looming eerily or hip-thrusting.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 11:39 AM)

I doubt having an integrated trailer would have swayed me into buying CW Motormaster. But what definitely put me off were Internet reports of awful hip ratcheting.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

I might also mention that ~not~ being a big truck has worked for the Internet pretty well.

@  unluckiness : (24 April 2017 - 11:32 AM)

I moaned about Motormaster because his combiner mode was awful

@  Rycochet : (24 April 2017 - 11:31 AM)

People moaned about the choices made during Combiner wars.that meant characters like Motormaster/Menasor weren't G1G1G1.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:23 AM)

He could always be a very small red truck.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2017 - 10:59 AM)

But how will you know it's Optimus Prime if he's not a big red truck?

@  Broadside : (24 April 2017 - 10:20 AM)

Personally, I'm not a fan of the extreme-accuracy trend. The character choices are kind of sure-fine-whatever, but outside of stuff like Alpha Trion that's a huge divergence from the source material, there doesn't feel like there's much imagination in the designs any more.

@  Pennpenn : (24 April 2017 - 05:03 AM)

Because you might as well start as you mean to go on?

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

It does. Preview image is Legion's penis tongue.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 04:15 AM)

Hold it. Please tell me Kiss Players doesn't have a GoBox.

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

That is epically messed up

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

GURD.... youtube just auto-played a new trailer for the Alien flick.... featuring John Denver's 'country roads' as BG music....

@  Noideaforaname : (24 April 2017 - 12:37 AM)

The Generations lineup should be decided by hitting Random Page on the wiki. "Next one is... Crankstart." 'Alright, I love the Scavengers!' "No, no, CrankSTART. The repaint of a repaint of a repaint of a Scout version of a Deluxe based on a background vehicle from the Live Action film." 'Oh'

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 11:31 PM)

After we get a couple of Pretenders. And a Titans Return Star Saber (not a difficult retool from Galvatron).

@  BlackMax : (23 April 2017 - 10:21 PM)

I really do like all the attention to the 80s toys, being from that era myself. However, I would be really happy if (let's say post Trypticon) the Generations line turns to the 2001 RiD line, Beast Wars stuff, and moves forwarda bit.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:19 PM)

I'm curious because I'm not an 80s kid nor have I ever held an actual 80s toy in my hands, but I'm pretty sure a mathematically significant portion of 80s kids here do have a like for cartoon accuracy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:15 PM)

How much of this community favors versus not favors the current Hasbro design team's general trend of accuracy to classic 1980s toys and lack of attention to any other era of Transformers?

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 07:36 PM)

Telly, ah, got it.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:41 PM)

"You can do magic things!" "It's called evil, kid."

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

Potatoes don't have ears. That's corn.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

little furry potatos

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:24 PM)

This potato's got big ears...

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:18 PM)

The potato rebellion will be swift and brutal.

@  Waspinator : (23 April 2017 - 03:48 PM)

IT'S WATCHING US

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

yeah, at the time im posting this, theres a "2" next to it and me and fruitloop are shown to be the 2 people reading it

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:33 PM)

i think it just means that someone is reading the shoutbox

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Re The Rise of Cobra: I like bad movies and action sequences involving elite ninjas, so I watched / fast-forwarded through it on Netflix a couple of years ago.

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:23 PM)

Can anyone tell me why the Shoutbox has a notification (a "1") when I login sometimes? I scroll through and don't see anything addressed to me. What does it mean?

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 April 2017 - 01:33 PM)

I miss the 2000s when my local stores got new toys more than once a year.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 01:09 PM)

I mean, it might be hard to not know about something before release at all, but the degree of familiarity that you described is only attainable if you intentionally seek things out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:59 PM)

That's at least partially your own fault. The "in motion" part sounds like you even watched videos, which require conscious effort, unlike pictures that might be hard to even avoid.

@  Bass X0 : (23 April 2017 - 12:22 PM)

I miss the 80s where the first time I ever saw Transformers toys was on the toy shelves and hadn't already saw the toy from every angle and in motion several months beforehand. It made seeing a toy in the store something very special to me that I can't recapture now.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

I could see Generations becoming a TRU exclusive line, now that I think about it.

@  Xellos : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

Also, Generations weathered AOE, and the TLK line seems to be short as well, so I think we'll still be seeing some room for Generations.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 12:11 PM)

Titans aren't really wide-released anyway. About the only brick-and-mortar chain to reliably carry them is Toys R Us.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:08 PM)

Isn't Trypticon still a long way from now?

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

They wouldn't let a big-ticket item like that get cancelled.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

Counter argument: They still haven't released Trypticon.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:25 AM)

But yeah, not having any big-name media means it's the most likely, although the premiere series packaging might convince retailers to dedicate more shelf space, kinda like SW Black.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:24 AM)

I'd expect Generations to be the sacrificial lamb since they can't possibly stock RID any less.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:06 AM)

I'm thinking the subline that doesn't have a movie or TV show will be the one on the cutting board.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:05 AM)

Back to TF toys: the question is whether or not retailers will be willing to commit the peg/shelf space for three sublines. And which one will be sidelined if space is at a premium.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 06:28 AM)

No idea.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 03:40 AM)

Sometimes the Shoutbox takes a little longer to catch up to a new avatar.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 03:00 AM)

In the Shoutbox I'm seeing the pink thing instead of that guy with the weird eyes.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 02:59 AM)

looks the same to me. maybe it looks different cause its smaller?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 02:57 AM)

@unluckiness why/how is your avatar here different than the one in your profile

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 02:44 AM)

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#1 D Buster Prime

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 09:06 PM

http://reviews.cnet....7-35089447.html

Basically, it's an Android tablet with a 4-core processor (and a 5th core for low power operations to conserve battery life), with a keyboard dock that transforms the tablet into an Android netbook and extends the battery life even further.

I just pre-ordered one from GameStop (other pre-order sites are mostly sold out) after reading the initial reviews today, and I'm pretty excited. It also doesn't hurt that my first Android tablet will be called a Transformer.

Anybody else been reading up on this and/or looking into getting one?

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 09:34 PM

I have been looking at tablets lately, but my eye has been on a Vizio which can also act as a universal remote.

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 09:37 PM

I have to wonder with all the copyrights and trademark laws, how they got away with calling a Product the almost exact name of another Brand's line of product?

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 10:34 PM

http://www.amazon.co...4...6924&sr=8-1

Already done, with a better OS none the less.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 07:04 AM

QUOTE(Tm_Silverclaw @ Dec 1 2011, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.amazon.co...4...6924&sr=8-1

Already done, with a better OS none the less.


I already have a Windows Tablet PC. Microsoft might get it with Windows 8, but for now, their tablets suck, as the UI isn't designed with finger-touch in mind, but with a stylus. Its the same reason the first Windows phones and Pocket PCs lost out to the iPhone and iPod touch.

...and the Iconia Tablet can't even fold closed. It's a parts-former.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 10:21 AM

I like the form factor, but don't like the gimped OS. The biggest issue with the iPad and other tablets to be is they aren't keyboardless netbooks, but rather bigger iPods, or smart phones without phones. This goes a step further and is pretty much a netbook without a real OS, which really is a step backwards in the computing world as far as I'm concerned. I love my netbook because it has a real OS on it, and I can do real things and install real programs on it, not just surf the net, read e-mail and use "apps".

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 10:23 AM

i think we can call 2011 'tablet bonanza year' icon-waspy.gif still cant find a Blackberry tablet (it costs 199$!) for my bro, its all SOL here and they wont be getting new stock until january (and it will go back to 300$)

and i find it depressing when a Tablet has the same power (quad core) as my computer :|
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Posted 02 December 2011 - 10:55 AM

I've got the original Asus Transformer table, and it's pretty much my go-to device for anything that doesn't require a full desktop. I'd love to upgrade to the Prime, but I'm not sure I could get anough for my TF101 to make a sizeable dent in the purchase price.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 01:26 PM

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I like the form factor, but don't like the gimped OS. The biggest issue with the iPad and other tablets to be is they aren't keyboardless netbooks, but rather bigger iPods, or smart phones without phones. This goes a step further and is pretty much a netbook without a real OS, which really is a step backwards in the computing world as far as I'm concerned. I love my netbook because it has a real OS on it, and I can do real things and install real programs on it, not just surf the net, read e-mail and use "apps".

There's a fair number of things mobile OSs are better at, too; there are apps and use cases that only desktop OSs have and apps and use cases that only mobile ones have readily available, and plenty of workarounds in either case. Android would seem fairly constrictive if it's your only machine, but it's not beyond reason for some uses, particularly since this is Honeycomb, which is made for tablets in the first place, not phones.

It's all going to come down to what applications you actually intend to run. On anything but Windows, there's no gaming to speak of, and mobile OSs generally wouldn't give you many options for, say, graphic or web design work that you could do with Windows / OSX / desktop Linux. On the other hand, anything to do with document handling and word processing, web browsing, multimedia, etc. could reasonably be handled with Android. The lack of a regular window manager would get on my nerves - I don't like the idea of not being able to have two documents up from separate apps at the same time - but I really don't know whether that's a typical concern. With a "mobile device," you often have 3G data, a decent camera, etc. that are harder to come by on a regular netbook.

The Iconia would definitely not be interchangeable with the Transformer. It's a better netbook and pointless as a tablet. There are others - Dell has a popup-book-type netbook like that, and Asus has a couple models with screens that swing around over the keyboard, like older tablet notebooks. But they're as heavy or heavier than a regular netbook, and the tablet mode wouldn't be a reasonable solution for casual reading. With the Transformer, you have a device that's already ridiculously light and portable, then splits in half for reading and web browsing. Also better for passing something around in a group, for that matter, because the interaction style with a tablet is different from a conventional PC, more like a clipboard and less like an automobile.

The only gotcha with the Transformer is that you can't get a 3G data plan with it. That does limit it to being a very light netbook with a keyboard that comes off and missing a few ports. That's still not a bad proposition for a lot of uses, though. It just probably wouldn't serve as your main PC.

Windows 7 is a bad fit for a touch device, too resource intensive and just not built for touch interaction, and I'm not sold on Windows 8 yet; the ARM version only supports the new Metro apps from the Microsoft app store, so it's hard to argue that it's somehow more a "real PC" than an iPad or Android tablet (the latter of which you can at least sideload homebrew apps onto.)

Also, the name is cute. = )

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 01:29 PM

I've got the first Transformer and like it a lot. It's not going to replace my desktop computer any time soon, but it rocks as a mobile device for email, watching videos, and playing games. Especially once you stick some emulators on it.

One of the biggest advantages of Android compared to conventional OSs for a netbook is that it turns on instantly. Other OSs have sleep modes of course, but those tend to take longer to come out of and that's annoying for a device to take with you everywhere.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 01:49 PM

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One of the biggest advantages of Android compared to conventional OSs for a netbook is that it turns on instantly. Other OSs have sleep modes of course, but those tend to take longer to come out of and that's annoying for a device to take with you everywhere.


Agreed, although this varies quite a bit, as you say. Apple's 11" MacBook Air is a netbook form-factor and OSX on its SSD wakes from suspend in about the time it takes you to open the lid, and some (not all) desktop Linuxes are fairly instantaneous at resuming, too.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 02:22 PM

Yeah, the whole point I'd want an EEE would be because I can put Linux or Windows on it, and use the Office suites.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 02:26 PM

I use Quickoffice Pro HD on my Transformer and it works great for dealing with Microsoft Office stuff.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 03:38 PM

I'll take a look. On my phone I have a reader but I want to be able to edit and compose as well.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 03:39 PM

Yeah, and Quickoffice is a full editor. It was free on the Amazon App Store awhile back, think it's gone back to being a paid-for thing now though.

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 12:50 AM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ Dec 2 2011, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, the whole point I'd want an EEE would be because I can put Linux or Windows on it, and use the Office suites.


Asus Transformer Tablets come with a Polaris Office Suite pre-installed. I haven't found a lot of info. about it, but I think it's compatible with Microsoft Office files.

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 12:57 AM

I'm not a huge of Polaris, but it does work and does come for free on the original Transformer. I like Quickoffice more for various interface reasons and for better integration with Google Docs and Dropbox.

Oh, and here's a free trial:
https://market.andro...mFtMy50cmlhbCJd

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 06:31 AM

Yeah, I'd say plan to play, but be prepared to settle. Honeycomb is going to feel Linuxy enough and do most of the things you need - even comes with a Nautilusy file manager in the Transformer Prime implementation. By the end of next year, you'd have your choice between Windows, desktop Linux, and Android, but for the moment, Windows 7 doesn't run on ARM and 8 / dev preview's ARM version has no apps or backwards compatibility, and the only really touch-optimized interface for desktop Linux is Gnome Shell, which has compatibility trouble enough running on some desktop video cards, to say nothing of all the other hardware stuff that probably won't be supported right at release.

Edit: And hey, with Android, you still have bash (via Busybox.) That's cool, right?

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 10:35 AM

Not unity?

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 01:36 PM

I wouldn't really recommend it for a tablet, no. I haven't tried it myself, but I haven't heard good things. I know that's the goal and it's meant to bridge form factors well in future versions (and I don't doubt it will,) but the current version depends on a lot of mouse hover states, and not all the click targets have been expanded. The best example is the title bar controls for a maximized window, which are hidden under the window title (visible on hover) and narrower width-wise than the ones in Windows 7.

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