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@  Kalidor : (17 January 2017 - 05:54 PM)

Starting now you shouldn't be getting the message any further

@  Kalidor : (17 January 2017 - 05:53 PM)

Did you still get it? It should be removed now

@  Telly : (17 January 2017 - 03:14 PM)

i probly shouldnt have said that...

@  Telly : (17 January 2017 - 03:13 PM)

robobwang wasnt in that!

@  Bass X0 : (17 January 2017 - 02:24 PM)

Robowang stars in... Butthole Destruction - The Porno

@  Robowang : (17 January 2017 - 01:34 PM)

Butthole Destruction

@  Noideaforaname : (17 January 2017 - 01:16 PM)

(must mention I'm not signed in on my phone, only the laptop)

@  Noideaforaname : (17 January 2017 - 01:15 PM)

That AdBlock message has popped up on my iPhone *without* any type of ad blocking, and the mandatory 30-second wait means I'm just not bothering with the site on there anymore...

@  BlackMax : (17 January 2017 - 12:05 PM)

So far it's only happened the one time for me.

@  Ms Virion : (17 January 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I got the popup on a tablet I just bought that I haven't even installed anything on yet. =|

@  Fnu Aw : (17 January 2017 - 09:50 AM)

I've got the same problem. I disabled my adblock on this site, but I'm still getting that message.

@  Jalaguy : (17 January 2017 - 09:38 AM)

I got the ad block warning on my work PC yesterday (with no blocking on), but not my laptop at home.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (17 January 2017 - 08:53 AM)

I wish the ads would stop showing me things I want but can't afford to have

@  Kalidor : (16 January 2017 - 11:15 PM)

Correct

@  BlackMax : (16 January 2017 - 10:37 PM)

So correct me if I'm wrong... it's good that we see the ads, but it's better if we click them?

@  Kalidor : (16 January 2017 - 05:24 PM)

I wonder if any other blockers (javascript, etc) are triggering it. I hate to do it but I have to do something. I don't want to be like Forbes that makes the site un-usable with adblock.. but I do want to remind people that ads are necessary.

@  Dracula : (16 January 2017 - 01:23 PM)

Yeah I had turned off adblock a while ago and got the same message last night.

@  Lazy Garou : (16 January 2017 - 12:38 PM)

anyone seen the korean method 1?

@  Arazyr : (16 January 2017 - 12:11 PM)

I got something similar recently. I think it was due to the site being set up to use https. AdBlock counted it as a different site. I had to update my settings.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 January 2017 - 09:31 AM)

I got it this morning, but it turns out my ad blocker was actually on. I could have sworn I turned it off for the allspark already though...

@  BlackMax : (16 January 2017 - 07:20 AM)

Yeah, so did I. Only one time though.

@  Pennpenn : (16 January 2017 - 03:05 AM)

Got a popup saying I'm using ad-block on this site when I am not. Huh.

@  Bass X0 : (16 January 2017 - 02:29 AM)

In that case I say it is survival of the cutest! Do I hear a second on that? And against?

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 January 2017 - 01:24 AM)

The platypus is nature's way of saying "I made this from scraps I found on the floor, and it can STILL hug you up."

@  MEDdMI : (15 January 2017 - 11:05 PM)

That's what they WANT you to think. They're already a mashup of at least 3 other creatures. Platypi are already Megazords by themselves.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 January 2017 - 10:52 PM)

But it's a platypus.. They don't really do anything.

@  MEDdMI : (15 January 2017 - 10:22 PM)

Rainbow Platypuszord

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 January 2017 - 09:58 PM)

What about the White Tigerzord?

@  BlackMax : (15 January 2017 - 08:28 PM)

I think Rust wins

@  Rust : (15 January 2017 - 07:52 PM)

Green Ranger Dragonzord power!

@  MaxVer : (15 January 2017 - 07:48 PM)

Blue Retriever standing tall

@  The Doctor Who : (15 January 2017 - 07:30 PM)

Pink Follower standing around.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 January 2017 - 06:59 PM)

Red Leader standing by.

@  ShadowMan024 : (15 January 2017 - 06:37 PM)

Such as joy, hope, and- oh, wait, you're not talking about the show?

@  ShadowMan024 : (15 January 2017 - 06:36 PM)

Combiner Wars killed a lot of things.

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 January 2017 - 06:31 PM)

Offer expires while you wait, operators are standing by!

@  Msol : (15 January 2017 - 06:31 PM)

So hey... is Gestalt pretty much done as a term? Has Combiner Wars killed it?

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 January 2017 - 06:22 PM)

My feet hurt, I'm sitting by.

@  Dracula : (15 January 2017 - 06:20 PM)

Bystander, standing by.

@  ShadowMan024 : (15 January 2017 - 06:06 PM)

Redd Foxx standing by.

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 January 2017 - 05:52 PM)

Red October standing by

@  BlackMax : (15 January 2017 - 05:12 PM)

Red 3 standing by.

@  Locoman : (14 January 2017 - 10:56 PM)

number 1 (we are)

@  Echowarrior : (14 January 2017 - 10:15 PM)

Cabinets.

@  Telly : (14 January 2017 - 10:03 PM)

number 5

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2017 - 09:59 PM)

Big Rescue Force

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 January 2017 - 09:41 PM)

I've already assembled Devastator and Superion.. Who else do you want me to assemble?

@  Bass X0 : (14 January 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Allsparkers Assemble!

@  MEDdMI : (14 January 2017 - 07:41 PM)

He's been hanging out with us cool kids in Mayhem.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2017 - 07:24 PM)

Eyyy, Foffy! I haven't seen you on the wiki in months!


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#1 Rosicrucian

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 01:39 PM

In musing on Exiles, I've started to wonder whether it might be interesting to have a fuller governing body of Cybertronian society, with more specialized roles based on the passing of the artifacts of the Thirteen.

Prime would remain the position held by a Matrix-bearer, as their authority comes from being the successors of Prima.

Magnus in my mind could be a position whose symbol of office is the hammer of Solus Prime, and their duty would be to keep the armories of Cybertron.

Alpha Trion doesn't seem to have passed his artifact on, but how interesting would it be to have a number of successors who each carried the quill and the Covenant of Primus?

I think I even see room for Nemesis as a position, as a devil's advocate whose job it is to re-examine the Prime's plans and point out their flaws. I'm not sure which of the Thirteen this one would stem from. Perhaps a position to remember the Fallen's mistakes? Maybe the spiritual successors of Amalgamous Prime?

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 07:25 PM

So the Prime is the overall leader, and the Magnus the general of the Military, since they have the authority over weaponry? Nice, and opens up the way for an unscrupulous Magnus to seize control by keeping the Prime away from any true power, like the shoguns did with the emperor of Japan.

On the Nemesis front, how I've imagined it is "Nemesis Prime" is the term for any Prime who has abused his power, like the roman tradition of damnatio memoriae, their crimes were regarded as so heinous that their names were stricken from record.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 07:32 PM

I think it mostly interested me in the context I described it because how much story potential is there in a Nemesis who isn't necessarily a bad guy? The idea that Cybertron's governing body needs a Nemesis because there has to be someone who can tell the Prime "no."

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 07:39 PM

Appointing a Devil's Advocate is an important means of preventing groupthink, so it definitely has potential. I think Amalgamous descendants would be good for this role, so perhaps there could be a high-ranking Shifter.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 08:36 PM

The fallen's role was preventing Entropy right? Dosen't that mean that they'd have to replace the fallen with someone else?

Or does it mean that his role still is preventing Entropy. Only that he's learned to use entropic factors to create weapons. Also, does this mean the Decepticons symbolize the absolutist order by force principle. And, aren't really about destruction and chaos...


Also... I'm supposing that Liege Maximo. Is basically Legion maximum. Does that mean the liege symbolizes mass expansion and colonialism?

So the question here would the liege need to be replaced? Or is his fall the cause of cybertron's stagnation?

I'm guessing the fallen and Liege Maximo are still loyal to their causes. They just chose to ignore the balance the other primes give to their roles. To the point where they went to. The sake of our purpose only and damn everything else.

Edited by MonsterFromMars, 26 November 2011 - 08:40 PM.


#6 Rosicrucian

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 09:35 PM

I don't think his role was preventing entropy, but overseeing it. At least if I'm recalling correctly.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 10:35 PM

You make an interesting point. It would explain why only some transformers can combine into giant gestalts, because they are the only ones descended from Nexus Prime. That was my thought, when Nexus was described in detail, in Exodus. By the same logic, most of the robots with two or more alternate modes, must have some of Amagamous Prime in them; Having some shape-shifter CNA would explain how they can do something that is impossible for most other Cybertronians.


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Posted 27 November 2011 - 06:58 PM

They do more or less directly state that the remaining shapeshifters among the Cybertronian population claim descent from him, yeah.

#9 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 04:04 AM

QUOTE(Daytonus @ Nov 26 2011, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Appointing a Devil's Advocate is an important means of preventing groupthink, so it definitely has potential. I think Amalgamous descendants would be good for this role, so perhaps there could be a high-ranking Shifter.


Wouldn't that more or less lead to something like the two-party system in the States, where it seems the purpose of whoever isn't in power is to keep the ones who are from getting anything done?

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 04:50 AM

I have been working on a fanfic set in a sort of amalgamated universe called "JLC" aka "Justice League of Cybertron (obviously, an amalgamation of TFs and the DC universe). icon-hotrod.gif In this universe, the thirteen would all be TFs with a very specific role set for them by their creator - there is a Scholar, a Bastion (last line of defense), a Protector, a Keeper, a Gatherer of Knowledge, a Seer, etc... But due to a global event caused by a certain antagonistic race, all but one of them have now no memories of their former purpose, living in the general TF populace - yet, their primal programming does emerge, even if sometimes in seriously warped ways.

Edited by BB Shockwave, 28 November 2011 - 04:51 AM.


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Posted 29 November 2011 - 04:41 PM

I've been attempting to write this story about government for Transformers.

It seems to me at least, that the fact of the Quintessons have enslaved the TFs will be seemingly kept as part of the overall mythos.

That TFs are so jaded about about governing systems, that they go off of a completely election based system. In effect, the civilian population wants something done, they vote to have it passed or not. Mass majority rules. Exceptions are added to laws by minority opposition to prevent abuse of the system. It acts like it's own check and balances. Trials are held by something similar to the jury selection process. There is no presiding Judge, but a jury of peers randomly selected to weigh the case against the law.


QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Nov 28 2011, 03:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have been working on a fanfic set in a sort of amalgamated universe called "JLC" aka "Justice League of Cybertron (obviously, an amalgamation of TFs and the DC universe). icon-hotrod.gif In this universe, the thirteen would all be TFs with a very specific role set for them by their creator - there is a Scholar, a Bastion (last line of defense), a Protector, a Keeper, a Gatherer of Knowledge, a Seer, etc... But due to a global event caused by a certain antagonistic race, all but one of them have now no memories of their former purpose, living in the general TF populace - yet, their primal programming does emerge, even if sometimes in seriously warped ways.



BB, you and I need to have a nice friendly chat at some point...


Because, I've been wanting to do DC: Transformed like ever since the rumors of DC entertaining the TF license was circulated and created a stir.


DC: Transformed being a full fledged Transformer/DC fanfic group of titles {short story fanfics released like "issues" of a comic, each centered on the characters of the title.}.


And yes, I've done this kind of thing before icon-fire.gif.

Edited by Blacknife, 29 November 2011 - 04:56 PM.

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