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@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers


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Posted 14 February 2019 - 04:32 PM

Roadhandler did indeed spend time as a professional wrestler. This led him to roles in a few action movies, including a franchise with an ensemble cast of 80s-thru-2010s action stars, and a franchise with a great deal of stunt driving. He even guest-hosted an episode of a popular late-night weekend sketch comedy series, to a surprising amount of success considering the challenge of incorporating a sentient alien robot into comedy sketches with otherwise human characters.



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Posted 10 March 2019 - 07:09 AM

Brawn, upon being injured by Megatron during the Decepticon shuttle hijacking in TF:TM, was immediately sent into stasis lock due to the severity of his wound. As the Decepticons fled from the shuttle, Brawn was sent flying out of the hole Megatron had made earlier, crashing into the river surrounding Autobot city. After the battle, he was found by a search and rescue team and taken to Red Alert, who was so busy trying to fix everyone else that poor Brawn ended up being out of commission for the rest of the movie.

Though he recovered from his injuries, Brawn would only see limited action for the duration of the war, engaging only when absolutely necessary in order to avoid further damaging his old, beaten systems. Once the war ended, he retired with Mirage, Cliffjumper, Bluestreak, and Gears. They spend their free time hunting turbofoxes, enjoying copious amounts of wealth, sipping Energon wine, and bitching about Prowl. Being Mirage's friend has benefits, is what I'm saying.

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 08:39 AM

I think I've expressed dissatisfaction at the Seacon bios before because they seem like they were more or less copied from previous characters. So according to my shelf canon, these are their bios. Also shelf canon names.

 

Ironshell is the oldest known Decepticon on record. A naval commander from a time when the Sea of Rust was an actual sea, work dried up when Cybertron's core shut down, causing widespread ecological changes. Decepticon high command decided that having a naval presence was unnecessary on a planet with no water and he was placed under stasis. Millions of years later, upon the expansion of the war to neighboring planets, the Decepticons were at a major disadvantage at sea after Tidal Wave was sunk. It was decided that Ironshell was to be reactivated to turn the tide. Ironshell is a crusty old geezer who sees the new recruits as unskilled and foolish and is keen to show off how things were done back in the good old days. Ever patient, he waits for the perfect opportunity to act. In beast mode, his shell is for all practical purposes indestructible, however, its paintjob is not. As a man of the sea, this veteran sees his shell as not only a badge of honor but also a talisman of luck (as he has not lost a single battle since he put it on) and thus, spends most of his off-duty time waxing and buffing it. Aside from his dismal speed, his biggest weakness is his poor hearing. (sounds like English dub Beerus)

 

Prior to enlisting in the Decepticon army, Coelagon was a pirate renowned not only for his skill but also his inebriation. It is said that he was hammered from the day he was forged. After a legendary heist of the galactic federation's homeworld, Coelagon's crew, particularly intoxicated, crashed their ship into the center of Decepticon headquarters. Megatron, unhappy to say the least, conscripted the survivors into the Decepticon ranks and outfitted the seadogs with sobriety inducer chips. The former captain works in exchange for chip inhibitors, just happy to be able to get buzzed. Unfortunately, even when sober, he has the hygiene of a drunk. (The Flying Dutchman)

 

Seawing was once a member of the Seekers. Unfortunately, the unit was downsized and Starscream decided that they already had a fan guy, a creepy guy and an almost white gray guy, so Seawing was kicked out. Reports of a winged phantom descending from the night, striking fear into even the denizens of Cybertron's darkest, seediest alleys, leaving a trail of broken jet bots in its wake caught the attention of Ironshell. After tracking the elusive Seawing down, an agreement was forged that Seawing would participate in Seacon missions as long as his opportunities for advancement were present and a generous retirement pension guaranteed. Denies enjoying the combiner team membership. Attuned to the depths of the sea, Seawing is weak to bright lights and loud noises. (Baleman scenery chewing voice)

 

Cyberjaw started out a thug, a mook, a henchman in the seedier parts of Kaon before saving a nest egg that let him launch his own less savory enterprises. Specializing in lending credits to less the less fortunate with reasonable payment plans, his profits grew matched only by his appetite. I mean, what's a couple bites between friends, eh? Unfortunately, the Great War thing is really bad for business so Cyberjaw decided to join up with the Deepticons 'coz he likes their style. The skillset Cyberjaw's built up over the years proved compatible with his new career and the Decepticons are glad to have someone with the stomach to do the jobs even they won't touch. Prone to indigestion. (1930's gangster see? nyah)

 

Tentakil, stage name Scylla (her manager thought Tentakil wouldn't appeal to a wide audience, woulda thunk) was once a lesser-known actress in Iacon, acting mostly as secondary characters just waiting for that big break to arrive, which it did when she landed a starring role alongside Scuba in a romantic comedy. Seats were reserved in advance for months, culminating in the opening night... where the theater was crushed following Omega Supreme taking a cannon blast to the face. Blinded with rage at the titan who took her career, Tentakil joined the Decepticons hoping for a shot at vengeance. While her tentacles grant impressive strength and reach, she lacks the dexterity to effectively use them in close quarters. Her most deadly weapons is deception. (whatever voice the job requires)

 

Nautilator sucks. Forged with a metal density four times the average, he sinks like a stone, if stones were made of metal. And had built in anchors. And gravity hated them. Compounding this problem, during his enlistment physical examination, it was found that his body structure was 90% solid, with the only hollowness found in his cranium. Basically, unlike everyone on this team, he cannot swim and trudges along the sea floor. Even in combined mode, he weighs Piranacon down and severely impedes performance. An upside to his unique anatomy is that he makes a superlative bullet sponge. Definitely not kosher. (Peter Griffin voice)


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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:12 AM

This is a theory I cooked up awhile ago to help retcon Unicron and Primus's multiversal origins into fitting with the G1 cartoon's origins for Unicron involving Primacron and Primus's origins involving the Quintessons. This theory is written with the belief that the G1 cartoon, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, and all accompanying ancillary media (most prominently the 3H and Universe comic series) are in the same continuous universe. While this is a rather contentious viewpoint for some fans, it is the setting I which nearly all of my Transformers writings are based. Without further ado, I present to you the Divine Theory.



As the universe began and creation simmered after the blinding light of the Big Bang, the laws of the Multiverse took hold and began shaping yet another new reality. As with almost all other universes, the natural balance between good and evil, order and chaos began to shape reality, and with these forces their personified embodimentsPrimus and Unicron. Their consciousnesses existed at first only on the metaphysical astral plane, before creating physical extensions of themselves. Primus, existing across all realities simultaneously, dimensionally landed in this universe as a naturally occurring planet and would go on to become a thriving organic world. Unicron, meanwhile, manipulated the mind of a young scientist named Primacron, one of the first beings in existence. Using Primacron as an instrument for his destruction, Unicron had the impudent organic construct him a body like no other, a sprawling mechanical world, capable of transforming into a body resembling his old divine figure, freeing Unicron from the constraints of a purely metaphysical existence and giving his consciousness form. Drunk on power and eager to begin his malevolent machinations, Unicron failed to notice that Primacron's assistant had become influenced by the will of Primus, who used the being to construct a failsafe device capable of destroying Unicron, using some of Primus's divine power to complete the talisman. Unicron, however, sensed something was amiss in the astral plane, and realized Primus held sway over the assistant. Enraged, the Chaos Bringer sought to eliminate Primacron, his assistant, and the failsafe, though unbeknownst to him, Primacron survived and the talisman was sent hurtling into the void, where it would eventually return to Primus from across the universe. The trauma of having been manipulated by a dark god and facing a near death experience drove Primacron mad, leading to him eventually constructing other diabolical creations, such as the energy draining beast Tornedron (and, if the rumors are true, even the Quintessons, though this may be mere myth).

As time wore on, intelligent life in the universe began to develop and spread. One such group of beings were the Quintessons, a collection of semi-robotic subspecies completely dedicated to manipulation and greed. Unicron, sensing that these beings could be of use to him, made the Quintessons his servants and ordered them to locate the body of Primus so that he may annihilate him. After a time, the Quintessons did indeed find Primus's physical form, a lush organic world of great beauty and serenity. The Quintessons, however, decided that instead of informing their dark master of Primus's whereabouts, they would use the creator god for their own purposes. To that end, the greedy merchants terraformed the organic paradise into a cold, metallic factory world that they dubbed Cybertron. At the heart of this new world, they came across the physical form of Primus's consciousness, the gateway to the Allspark and the astral plane: Vector Sigma. Upon discovering the sentient core of Cybertron, the Quintessons sought to utilize the creative powers of Primus for their own means, and constructed many devices such as the Plasma Energy Chamber and the Oracle to control and isolate Primus, both of which had limited success in the long run. For the time, however, the Quintessons could maintain a fragile control over Vector Sigma by using the Oracle shell program to disconnect Primus from his creations, and thus went about creating their own forms of life, the first of which being the monstrous Trans-Organics. Frighteningly powerful, the abominations were a combination of the natural organic creatures of Cybertron with Quintesson cybernetic technology, resulting in a race of patchwork cyborgs capable of wiping out entire civilizations if left unchecked. These creatures, incapable of being controlled or destroyed, were sealed deep beneath Cybertron's surface and abandoned. The next attempts at creating life by the Quintessons were purely mechanical in nature, with the hope that machines would prove more manageable than the rebellious beasts of old. Their guesses proved correct, and, with the power of the Oracle and Plasma Energy Chamber, the Quintessons created multiple lines of robotic life forms that would become known as the Transformers. With Primus's true consciousness being suppressed by the Oracle, the slave robots were unable to develop true sentience for many eons.

The Quintessons, finally reaching their initial goals, went about selling their mechanical creations to other species, with the main product lines being those of military hardware and domestic robots. At the behest of some buyers who demanded certain "qualities" in their products, both classes of machines were given artificial gender, a factor that continues well into the modern day for Transformer society. At some unknown point in time, however, the ancient talisman Primacron had created landed on Cybertron and fell into the hands of the enslaved robots. This artifact, an extension of Primus and his power, began to instill the robots with life, evolving their artificial intelligences into true sentience. As a result, the talisman became revered by the machines, and was traditionally given to the appointed leader of the slaves, a process that continued for millennia. Now capable of thinking and feeling for themselves, the slaves began to rebel against their Quintesson masters, putting into motion events that would shape the history of the universe, nay, the Multiverse, forever.

Over eleven million years later in the year 2005 CE, Unicron finally located the body of Primus, Cybertron, and stood on the brink of victory against his arch enemy. The only thing standing in his way were Primus's children, the Transformers, who had been in the midst of an age old civil war between the military and domestic branches of their species. The ancient talisman of Primacron, now known as the Matrix of Leadership, was passed down from the leader of the Autobots, the faction of domestic robots, into the hands of a young Autobot named Hot Rod, who had dueled one of Unicron's minions, Galvatron, in the depths of the Chaos Bringer himself. Opening the Matrix and finally activating it's true purpose, and full force of Primus's powers were released within Unicron's physical form, tearing him apart and leaving the dark god once again confined to the astral plane and the severed head of his old body, the only part that survived. Centuries later into the future and the war between the two began once more. In the time before then, Primus helped convert Cybertron into a tranquil balance of organic and mechanical life, reformatting the entire world and it's people into technorganics, and had also played a role in repelling a Quintesson invasion of the newly reformatted world (as well as finally breaking free of the Oracle shell programming, regaining direct contact with his creations).

Unicron, meanwhile, had been abducting forces from across the Multiverse to serve as his minions against the lord of light, and had slowly gone about reforming his old body with the energy of his victim's sparks. Finally, a year after Primus's full return and Unicron's rise to power, the Children of Primus and the Minions of Unicron began the Universe War, a conflict that spanned the entire Multiverse and ravaged multiple realities, engulfing dimensions in ceaseless combat that rivaled the intensity of the greatest Cybertronian wars. Eventually, however, after long years of warfare and countless trillions lost, the Children prevailed and Unicron was defeated, with the Chaos Bringer and his armies vanishing due to the overwhelming power of the Unicron Singularity, a collection of black holes created by the destruction of Unicron's presence in certain universes. It is theorized that after losing too many dimensions to the Children of Primus, the Unicron Singularities all converges across the Multiverse and became too powerful for the Chaos Bringer to overcome, removing him from existence in many realities and making his consciousness on the astral plane dormant...for a time.

Regardless of the details, Unicron was defeated and the Children were left victorious in their war, saving the Multiverse from Unicron's wrath. Furthermore, the multiversal event known as the Shrouding strengthened the boundaries between universes, severing the multiversal composite consciousnesses shared by every Unicron and Primus. With the Unicron of this reality gone and with little chance of his return, it appears that the dark god may have, at least in this universe, finally been vanquished for good.

*Note: All versions of Primus and Unicron before the Shroud were connected, sharing the same gestalt consciousness. This was known as being a multiversal singularity. These singularities existed because the Multiverse operates on a balanced system of good and evil, order and chaos. A Unicron and Primus were needed in most every universe to keep the balance, although exceptions did and still do exist. Now that all universes are free to have their own gods and distinct versions of Primus and Unicron, however, it can be theorized that the deities no longer hold nearly as much cosmic significance, and individual universes can function fine without one of the two (although an unchecked Unicron isn't usually a good thing in general for a reality).
This is a theory I cooked up awhile ago to help retcon Unicron and Primus's multiversal origins into fitting with the G1 cartoon's origins for Unicron involving Primacron and Primus's origins involving the Quintessons. This theory is written with the belief that the G1 cartoon, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, and all accompanying ancillary media (most prominently the 3H and Universe comic series) are in the same continuous universe. While this is a rather contentious viewpoint for some fans, it is the setting I which nearly all of my Transformers writings are based. Without further ado, I present to you the Divine Theory.



As the universe began and creation simmered after the blinding light of the Big Bang, the laws of the Multiverse took hold and began shaping yet another new reality. As with almost all other universes, the natural balance between good and evil, order and chaos began to shape reality, and with these forces their personified embodimentsPrimus and Unicron. Their consciousnesses existed at first only on the metaphysical astral plane, before creating physical extensions of themselves. Primus, existing across all realities simultaneously, dimensionally landed in this universe as a naturally occurring planet and would go on to become a thriving organic world. Unicron, meanwhile, manipulated the mind of a young scientist named Primacron, one of the first beings in existence. Using Primacron as an instrument for his destruction, Unicron had the impudent organic construct him a body like no other, a sprawling mechanical world, capable of transforming into a body resembling his old divine figure, freeing Unicron from the constraints of a purely metaphysical existence and giving his consciousness form. Drunk on power and eager to begin his malevolent machinations, Unicron failed to notice that Primacron's assistant had become influenced by the will of Primus, who used the being to construct a failsafe device capable of destroying Unicron, using some of Primus's divine power to complete the talisman. Unicron, however, sensed something was amiss in the astral plane, and realized Primus held sway over the assistant. Enraged, the Chaos Bringer sought to eliminate Primacron, his assistant, and the failsafe, though unbeknownst to him, Primacron survived and the talisman was sent hurtling into the void, where it would eventually return to Primus from across the universe. The trauma of having been manipulated by a dark god and facing a near death experience drove Primacron mad, leading to him eventually constructing other diabolical creations, such as the energy draining beast Tornadron (and, if the rumors are true, even the Quintessons, though this may be mere myth).

As time wore on, intelligent life in the universe began to develop and spread. One such group of beings were the Quintessons, a collection of semi-robotic subspecies completely dedicated to manipulation and greed. Unicron, sensing that these beings could be of use to him, made the Quintessons his servants and ordered them to locate the body of Primus so that he may annihilate him. After a time, the Quintessons did indeed find Primus's physical form, a lush organic world of great beauty and serenity. The Quintessons, however, decided that instead of informing their dark master of Primus's whereabouts, they would use the creator god for their own purposes. To that end, the greedy merchants terraformed the organic paradise into a cold, metallic factory world that they dubbed Cybertron. At the heart of this new world, they came across the physical form of Primus's consciousness, the gateway to the Allspark and the astral plane: Vector Sigma. Upon discovering the sentient core of Cybertron, the Quintessons sought to utilize the creative powers of Primus for their own means, and constructed many devices such as the Plasma Energy Chamber and the Oracle to control and isolate Primus, both of which had limited success in the long run. For the time, however, the Quintessons could maintain a fragile control over Vector Sigma by using the Oracle shell program to disconnect Primus from his creations, and thus went about creating their own forms of life, the first of which being the monstrous Trans-Organics. Frighteningly powerful, the abominations were a combination of the natural organic creatures of Cybertron with Quintesson cybernetic technology, resulting in a race of patchwork cyborgs capable of wiping out entire civilizations if left unchecked. These creatures, incapable of being controlled or destroyed, were sealed deep beneath Cybertron's surface and abandoned. The next attempts at creating life by the Quintessons were purely mechanical in nature, with the hope that machines would prove more manageable than the rebellious beasts of old. Their guesses proved correct, and, with the power of the Oracle and Plasma Energy Chamber, the Quintessons created multiple lines of robotic life forms that would become known as the Transformers. With Primus's true consciousness being suppressed by the Oracle, the slave robots were unable to develop true sentience for many eons.

The Quintessons, finally reaching their initial goals, went about selling their mechanical creations to other species, with the main product lines being those of military hardware and domestic robots. At the behest of some buyers who demanded certain "qualities" in their products, both classes of machines were given artificial gender, a factor that continues well into the modern day for Transformer society. At some unknown point in time, however, the ancient talisman Primacron had created landed on Cybertron and fell into the hands of the enslaved robots. This artifact, an extension of Primus and his power, began to instill the robots with life, evolving their artificial intelligences into true sentience. As a result, the talisman became revered by the machines, and was traditionally given to the appointed leader of the slaves, a process that continued for millennia. Now capable of thinking and feeling for themselves, the slaves began to rebel against their Quintesson masters, putting into motion events that would shape the history of the universe, nay, the Multiverse, forever.

Over eleven million years later in the year 2005 CE, Unicron finally located the body of Primus, Cybertron, and stood on the brink of victory against his arch enemy. The only thing standing in his way were Primus's children, the Transformers, who had been in the midst of an age old civil war between the military and domestic branches of their species. The ancient talisman of Primacron, now known as the Matrix of Leadership, was passed down from the leader of the Autobots, the faction of domestic robots, into the hands of a young Autobot named Hot Rod, who had dueled one of Unicron's minions, Galvatron, in the depths of the Chaos Bringer himself. Opening the Matrix and finally activating it's true purpose, and full force of Primus's powers were released within Unicron's physical form, tearing him apart and leaving the dark god once again confined to the astral plane and the severed head of his old body, the only part that survived. Centuries later into the future and the war between the two began once more. In the time before then, Primus helped convert Cybertron into a tranquil balance of organic and mechanical life, reformatting the entire world and it's people into technorganics, and had also played a role in repelling a Quintesson invasion of the newly reformatted world (as well as finally breaking free of the Oracle shell programming, regaining direct contact with his creations).

Unicron, meanwhile, had been abducting forces from across the Multiverse to serve as his minions against the lord of light, and had slowly gone about reforming his old body with the energy of his victim's sparks. Finally, a year after Primus's full return and Unicron's rise to power, the Children of Primus and the Minions of Unicron began the Universe War, a conflict that spanned the entire Multiverse and ravaged multiple realities, engulfing dimensions in ceaseless combat that rivaled the intensity of the greatest Cybertronian wars. Eventually, however, after long years of warfare and countless trillions lost, the Children prevailed and Unicron was defeated, with the Chaos Bringer and his armies vanishing due to the overwhelming power of the Unicron Singularity, a collection of black holes created by the destruction of Unicron's presence in certain universes. It is theorized that after losing too many dimensions to the Children of Primus, the Unicron Singularities all converges across the Multiverse and became too powerful for the Chaos Bringer to overcome, removing him from existence in many realities and making his consciousness on the astral plane dormant...for a time.

Regardless of the details, Unicron was defeated and the Children were left victorious in their war, saving the Multiverse from Unicron's wrath. Furthermore, the multiversal event known as the Shrouding strengthened the boundaries between universes, severing the multiversal composite consciousnesses shared by every Unicron and Primus. With the Unicron of this reality gone and with little chance of his return, it appears that the dark god may have, at least in this universe, finally been vanquished for good.

*Note: All versions of Primus and Unicron before the Shroud were connected, sharing the same gestalt consciousness. This was known as being a multiversal singularity. These singularities existed because the Multiverse operates on a balanced system of good and evil, order and chaos. A Unicron and Primus were needed in most every universe to keep the balance, although exceptions did and still do exist. Now that all universes are free to have their own gods and distinct versions of Primus and Unicron, however, it can be theorized that the deities no longer hold nearly as much cosmic significance, and individual universes can function fine without one of the two (although an unchecked Unicron isn't usually a good thing in general for a reality).

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Posted 08 July 2019 - 04:39 PM

The central robot of Reflector (the one with the lens on his torso) is the only "real" Reflector; i.e. the one with a Spark. The rest are drones. Reflector has the ability to simultaneously telepresence through multiple drones without losing efficiency in any of them. However, after the crew and invaders of the Ark were rebuilt in 1984, he transforms by combining his actual body with two drones; never less, never more.

 

EDIT: For clarification, Reflector has more than just the two drones. LOTS more. It's just that he can only use two of them at a time (any two) with his core body to transform into camera mode.


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Posted 03 August 2019 - 11:48 AM

Before reading all of that I assume that they had sex. Built? Kinda, but I mostly lean towards robo sex.


I mean, given the remarks Rattrap has made during Beast Wars, and the fact that the Transformers as a species in that universe have become technorganic, I suppose it's not impossible for sexual reproduction to occur. I think Stampy was stated as being a result of his parents procreating, but then again I'm pretty sure that was from Japan, so take it with a grain of salt.

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 06:42 PM

For no good reason other than I like how they look together - Siege Hot Shot is Siege Impactor's son. Whatever than means.

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 12:40 PM

In light of the events of 2005-2006, Optimus has begun mentoring Hot Rod in the event that the latter has to become Prime again.

 

Whenever it's necessary for Optimus Prime to real-time communicate with the leader of a certain powerful Asian country, Hot Rod tries to sneak an image of a certain ursine literary/cartoon character into the frame on Optimus' side. Optimus knows what Hot Rod's doing and why, but tries not to acknowledge it officially for diplomatic reasons.

 

Stakeout's favorite cop movies are the Dirty Harry films, although he does think that the first two Beverly Hills Cop movies have some of the best soundtracks.

 

Stakeout has a pet cat (of the Earthling biological variety) named Callahan.



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Posted 03 March 2020 - 01:08 PM

Lithones dont get pregnant or lay eggs and not have sex, but still need a mommy and a daddy to exist. Both parents give their blueprint to a machine and the machine builds them a child. I find this way better them giving birth. I mean how do the Lithones even give birth if they arent part organic or have no opening? Their armor plates dont seem removable. There was no mention or any source stating them to be techno oragnic. One did, but that has nothing to do with the original. Wheelies, other robotic kids seen in Transformers (dino babies, Holi and his team, hatchlings, the rescue bot children etc ) and these kids (pictures below) also came the same way.EA72BFC9-1CBA-46EC-8420-36A792BD76BB.jpeg 16FC3009-F943-4D4D-AC47-C740F34AFEBF.png
We never saw kiddieformers being built, but thats because Transformers pay attention to soldiers creating more soldiers and not two transformers couple having kids.

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Posted 27 April 2020 - 10:18 PM

On the ides of March 2020, The rest of the known universe suspended travel for organic beings to and from Earth. Autobots and other nonbiologicals are still allowed to travel, but landing zones are restricted (space bridge travel is preferred) and Autobots travelling from Earth must sterilize before leaving the landing zone/space bridge receiver.

 

The Witwicky family is safe on Nebulos.

 

Autobots on Earth are aiding more in the day-to-day business on the planet in order to minimize physical contact among organics.

 

The Decepticons are looking into ways to collect viable coronavirus quantities on their outer platings as a means of biological warfare.



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Posted 28 April 2020 - 09:51 AM

Daniel has two kids of his own. One girl and one boy.
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Posted 28 April 2020 - 10:07 PM

And a younger sister named Michaela.



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Posted 01 May 2020 - 06:51 PM

Windblade looks like that because she has been to Earth.

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Posted 25 June 2020 - 04:17 PM

One interesting bit of worldbuilding for Cybertron's city states lies in their names, specifically the suffixes at the end of many polity names. The most common suffix is -ex (Polyhex, Harmonex, Dodecahex, etc), with a staggering number of city states ending with that suffix, indicating that they have a shared cultural and/or geographical history. There are also variations of the -ex suffix, with some cities having -ix (Ultrix, Stanix), others with -ax (Gygax, Proximax, Glibax, etc.), and even the odd -ux (Valvolux), indicating cultural and/or geographical separation from other -ex cities, yet still maintaining a loose sense of conformity with Cybertronian culture as a whole.

It should also be noted that, while there are other smaller suffixes that indicate very specific regions, the most prominent Cybertronian cities (Iacon, Tarn, Vos, Kalis, Corumkan, Kaon, etc.) tend to break away from the conventional polity naming schemes, instead adopting more unique, striking names that easily set them apart from others. This may have influenced or be the result of these cities gaining prominence, but regardless, it is interesting.

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Posted 26 June 2020 - 10:18 AM

Oh, robo-reproduction is something I have theories about!  ALLOW ME TO EXPOSIT. :D

 

I liked the end of TFP (Predacons Rising) but I did not like the idea that all the sparks came from the Well of Allsparks.  It didn't make sense to me that all the sparks in the entire planet come from one spot.  It also seemed like if that was the case, there would be one huge city surrounding the Well and very sparse, measly cities over the rest of the planet. (Surely tiny sparks can't fly that far, right?)  But that did not seem to be the case.

 

At the same time, TFs boinking like humans seemed very unlikely.  Cybertronians live millions of years.  They would be so overpopulated if each bot had even one kid per 1,000 years!  Not a sustainable natural system.

 

But if the sparks weren't coming from the well and weren't created through human-ish means, then where are they coming from and what is the limiting reproducive factor?  I thought about it a while and came up with this:

 

1.  Bots can spark-merge (open their chestplates and let their sparks, well, merge together); this is something they'll only do with someone they trust since obviously it's a very vulnerable position.  But anyway, during a spark-merge, the bots exchange CNA.  This is stored in the upper layer of the spark's "memory".

 

2. Bots will periodically "rake out" their own spark, meaning to stroke the outer layer of the spark until a mixture of native and foreign CNA is extracted.  (I headcanon sparks as having a little bit of mass, not pure light.  So they do have a "surface.")  This will produce small golden globules of light, aka sparklets.  Sidenote:  sparklets can carry CNA from every spark-merge their parent has ever had, though a more recent partner will probably be more of a contributor.

 

3.  If a bot is in a wilderness area or similar lonely area, it's traditional to let the little light globules be whisked away on the wind, carried into the outlands.  Most of the time the sparklets will expire within a few days.  But in a few rare circumstances, they will land on ground that has just the right combination of minerals to sustain the sparklet--a hot spot!  T sparklet will root into the hot spot, develop into a full spark, and begin absorbing nutrients to build a body.  Hot spots appear / deplete naturally over time.

 

4. Eventually a newspark pulls itself free of the planet's surface.  They are slightly larger and much bulkier than their adult form will be, typically having a rather monstrous appearance--a hard chitinous body, no alt mode, and sharp teeth.  They will need the teeth for devouring rocks and minerals--since there's no guarantee they'll be able to find liquid energon--and for self-defense against predators, etc.  There are no adults to protect them (and they are instinctively fearful of adults at this stage), but newsparks commonly band together for protection.  At this stage, their behavior and intelligence is about on par with a feral cat's.

 

5.  The newsparks socialize with each other, learn cooperative behavior from each other, etc.  Eventually each will instinctively desire more, though.  They will wander away, searching for civilization.  Once they find a city, they'll become more and more curious about and imitative of adults.  They go through a series of molts, each one leaving their bodies looking more like an adult Cybertronian's.  (Somewhere in the middle of this they develop an alt mode.  Alt mode is partly based on CNA--if a newspark's genetic donors were all flyers then it, too, is likely to be a flyer--but they do still have to physically scan either a non-sentient vehicle or another bot to actually "get" the alt.)

 

6. Around the time when they start shedding their chitinous plating and developing paint nanites, they begin to name themselves.  A newspark's initial name is usually the color of their plating (Red, Blue, etc) or some basic ability they're proud of (Jumper, Fast, etc).  At this stage their sharp "baby teeth" get pushed out by their adult dental plate (which is a flat rather flimsy piece of metal for most bots; these guys live off a liquid diet, they don't need proper teeth.)

 

7.  Newsparks in the cities still roam about independently, but adults collectively feed them, tend to them if they get hurt, etc.  In some cities the older newsparks are press-ganged into jobs (Kaon, Praxus), especially those with burly builds like tanks or drills; in other city-states like Vos and Iacon, newsparks are able to choose for themselves when to enter the creche system (basically a kindergarten to teach them basic social graces, some basic education, and--under the Functionist regime--quietly determine which caste they'll be going into.) 

 

So in my headcanon, Cybertronians do consider Primus / Cybertron to be "their parent" in a rather literal way;  although they do have other bots who are their genetic parents, they will never know who those bots are or meet them.  (And within their culture, it would not even occur to them to care about them.)  It's also why the destruction of Cybertron was so devastating.  No more hot spots?  The literal end of their species.  

 

I usually ignore or downplay the off-world colonies because I do feel that it kind of lessens the impact if it's like:  "oh no, Cybertron's dead!  So anyway, let's all move to Velocitron." (Most of my headcanons are based on TFP, not IDW.)  But if I were looking for a biological explanation of the colonies, I'd say that Cybertronians specifically searched out planets that had a mineral composition that would naturally allow for hot spots.

 

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk headcanon.


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Posted 29 July 2020 - 03:58 PM

Cybertronians can’t see red or yellow and thus why they confuse Cliffjumper with Bumblebee.
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Posted 30 July 2020 - 09:28 PM

The Hive Nebulons in "The Rebirth" (or at least the ones that didn't look like Lithonians) were wearing extensive clothing to hide how atrophied their bodies actually were, much like the Skeksis from The Dark Crystal.





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