Personal Canon Theater
Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:59 PM
G1 Grimlock is not a dinosaur before he gets to Earth. He was always his The War Within / 6" Titanium tank mode until then. However, I will be using his new Fall of Cybertron toy as his earth mode body. He would upgrade from or to his original 1985 toy.
War For Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron toys are also G1 toys for the characters who get new toys.
Anybody got their own personal canon preferences / interpretations of recent toys and developments?
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 05:52 PM
I also like the idea that toys like GDO Megatron and RotF Bludgeon are actually alt-cont versions of each other, which would blow the minds of their selves who are rivals for Decepticon leadership.
I probably think way too much about dimension-hopping.
Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:19 PM
The rest of the original Dinobots are idiot savants. Just ask Paddles about nautical navigation, I assure you will be both fascinated and bored out of your skull by the deep understanding of the subject he possesses.
Grimstone took direct inspiration from Grimlock's philosophy and adopted a dinosaur mode of his own, and had his Power Core drones fashioned to resemble the look.
The Dinobots are color coded. Gold for Grimlock, Red for Slug, Green for Sludge, so on and so forth.
Wheeljack and/or Ratchet (Or other bots depending on continuity.) are working on more Dinobots as a pet project, but are continuously distracted by other, more important duties.
Edited by Cabooceratops, 11 January 2013 - 08:20 PM.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:36 PM
Comic Ratbat and cartoon Ratbat exist simultaneously. Cartoon Ratbat is now named and colored as Wingthing but is otherwise identical. Comic personality Ratbat is rarely a cassette, instead being one of his humanoid toys - the repaint Cybertron Sideways before Earth, and the classics Scourge repaint as his body on Earth.
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 06:49 AM
I like to think of the "computer" as being the alt-mode of one of the Thirteen, though others have said that they consider Primus to be Vector Sigma.
Personally I prefer the creation of Cybertronian life to be something performed at a slight remove from Primus himself.
Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:19 PM
The Junkions were originally a group of mixed Constructicon, Diaclone, and Microchanger servitors (probably with a few Malignus slipped in), purchased by a consortium to run/protect the Planet of Junk --a dumping/reclamation facility for a hundred worlds. After being abandoned, the Junkions held to their simple programming, eventually using their own bodies as raw materials for reconstruction (which would've blurred/obliterated the factional divides, as each ended up incorporating each other's parts and/or software). As new arrivals (both Cybertronian and otherwise) settled on the planet, they descended into tribalism.
During the Golden Age, a Diaclone colonial starship crashed on Velocitron (after bombing the local sapients back into the stone age). Forced to adapt, the Diaclones turned to local technologies to begin constructing new bodies, and budding to replenish their sparks. Because of the substandard materials used in their construction (and the impure fuel they're forced to live on), Velocitronians have a much shorter lifespan than normal TFs --measured in decades (and thus, comparable to humans). In the millions of years since the crash, thousands of generations have passed, and their original Cybertronian heritage is long forgotten.
G1 ended with Galvatron and a handful of Decepticons trapped on Earth (held there by the Autobots), while Decepticon splinter factions were strewn about the galaxy (led by Shockwave, Soundwave, Bludgeon, Thunderwing, Megaplex, Starscream, Scourge, and Cyclonus).
The Sweeps, headed by Scourge, withdrew into interstellar space, adopting a policy of isolationism. None of the Decepticon factions were powerful enough to force them into line, and the Autobots were more focused on reconstructing Cybertron. Sweeps are highly conformist, and all Sweeps wear one of three body-types: the DX-01 (the classic Sweep body), the DX-03 (the "Strike Sweep," designed for close-range combat, smaller and lighter than a normal Sweep), or the newly-devised DXM-05b (the "Super Sweep," designed for heavy combat, and wearing an arm-mounted fusion cannon in mockery of the once-great Megatron). Of all Transformers, Sweeps are most likely to treat their bodies as mecha shells, containing an interchangeable spark.
Scourge departed to sue for peace with the Autobots, heading to Earth to confront Optimus Prime directly (where he ended up getting brainwashed by Megatron and reformatting into a twisted and bloodthirsty reflection of Optimus). While he himself no longer leads the Sweeps, their leader still carries the title of "Scourge," because he is the one tasked with maintaining discipline within the ranks.
On Earth, Galvatron located the remains of Terrorsaur and Scorponok (from the Beast Wars), and used their "alien" technology to reformat himself and his followers, creating the Predacons. One of these Decepticons was Thundercracker, who became Skybyte. In my continuity, Skybyte is no clown, but a skilled warrior-poet --Thundercracker's latent compassion developed into Skybyte's philosophical bent, and his eventual fondness for humans. The RiD campaign ended with Skybyte and his Predacons betraying Galvatron in exchange for political amnesty.
(Galvatron fled Earth for parts unknown.)
Skybyte's Predacons relocated to a planet called Animatros, and soon grew in numbers as refugees from both Cybertronian factions settled and were reformatted into Predacons (no Autobots, no Decepticons). Grimlock and his (surviving) team visited and were reformatted, but didn't stick around (they were fugitives at the time).
The Minicons are not truly Cybertronian, but were created as a "next generation" by the Quintessons --as a ploy to infiltrate and retake Cybertron. They're basically walking, talking ZedPMs, and cause a mild narcotic effect whenever they Powerlink. In sufficient numbers, multiple Minicons can coordinate to assume direct control of a Bulk. Thanks to human and Autobot intervention, this plot was foiled, and the Minicons gained their independence, setting up on Micronia (and forging an alliance with the neighbouring Autobot colony on Gigantia).
(It was during the Armada campaign that Cyclonus [after mind-raping a Minicon] learned of the Quintesson factory worlds --of which Cybertron was only one among many. Somehow he learned the location of at least one other factory world.)
Cyclonus (self-styled High Priest of Chaos) landed on Animatros, and took the name "Scourge" (because everyone already knew who Cyclonus was). As a Predacon, he eventually staged a coup, forcing Skybyte and his government into exile (while he searched the planet's ancient temples for anything that would let him destroy Cybertron in his Master's name). When the Autobots Trailbreaker and Brawn arrived (during the Cybertron campaign), Scourge manipulated them into uncovering the Beast Matrix --which reformatted Trailbreaker into Leobreaker.
Meanwhile, the resistance against Scourge's reign of terror was trying desperately to assemble. Carnivac sacrificed himself to hold off Scourge's forces, while Skybyte forged the splinter groups into an alliance --one backed by the newly-arriving Autobots. The resistance adopted Carnivac's face as their symbol, becoming the Maximals, currently commanded by LeoBreaker.
"Scourge," meanwhile, abandoned Animatros as soon as his quest (to create a new Matrix --and the chaos that would inevitably flow from it) was complete. He was found/captured by the Sweeps, who fell for his act and assumed that he was their long-lost leader. He used Predacon technology to help them develop the Super-Sweep body (unleashing a prototype on Earth as a proof-of-concept test).
(That prototype was the "Megatron" of the first TF movie --malfunctioning after a brush with the Underbase Cube and thinking itself the real Megatron.)
After gaining a new body (which he'd specifically designed just for this purpose), "Scourge" abandoned the Sweeps and renamed himself yet again, taking the name "Megatron" to unite the fractured Decepticon splinter groups. (This is Animated Megatron.)
(Meanwhile, Prime-Megatron is actually Galvatron.)
The current Cybertronian Republic includes Autobots, Junkions, Minicons, Velocitronians, and Maximals.
The Predacons we're about to see in Beast Hunters are signs of a deepening Decepticon/Predacon alliance.
(Meanwhile on Earth, NEST includes Humans, Autobots, Minicons, and even a few Junkions (who do not turn into motorcycles because they're huge).
Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:33 PM
Posted 12 January 2013 - 10:59 PM
The genie's out of the bottle, and now both factions have to deal with the fact that anyone with a Transwarp drive could theoretically travel back to Earth during the Ark's four million year stasis, and seriously muck up an important part of Transformer history, like Beast Megatron eventually tries to. So their stopgap solution is to attempt to bury the fact that the Ark was ever there, hide Earth's location and significance, and restrict travel to the area, in an attempt to block this from happening. We all know how that turned out.
As an addendum, the Golden Disc was a valuable relic not just for the message from the original Megatron, but because it imparted this previously censored knowledge.
Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:46 AM
Now QS is the new name for Slingshot and all, but with the white helmet and such he also has a bit of a different look. Add to this that I have never liked G1 Slingshot for being an annoying @$$ who got way too much spotlight in the G1 toon and some fannon was born:
At some point Slingshot was badly damaged in battle. It looked like he was permanently offline. Unable to handle the loss of Superion in combat the Autobots responded by calling up a bot from the bush leagues to take his place. A young jet named Airrazor (Hasbro's first attempt to replace Slingshot a few years back) was altered to combine with the surviving team.
Meanwhile Slingshot's Arabian Prince friend from the G1 cartoon found out about his condition and arranged to take care of his remains. Little did anyone Know, he wasn't thinking memorial, but rebirth. Under the Prince's guidance Slingshot was rebuilt nearly completely and reborn, faster than ever before as the futuristic, supersonic Quickslinger.
Humbled and changed by the experience, few would recognize the boasting braggart of old. Quiet, determined and serious Quickslinger now works apart from his old teammates and attempts to find his way back to the easy confidence he once had.
-ZacWilliam, now if only Hasbro would follow up Bruticus with a new combining set of Aerialbots.
Edited by ZacWilliam1, 19 January 2013 - 09:48 AM.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 08:34 AM
Had either been released here, the standard DOTM Deluxe figure would have represented Que, and the Trilogy version with the new head would have represented Wheeljack rebuilt, since it had his head, after all. This allows me to work around the movie wasting a classic character.
As an aside, if the makers of a future TF film wanted to do Wheeljack right, they could always use the name swap as an excuse to use him.
Posted 28 January 2013 - 08:59 AM
As if the movie makers need even that kind of justification. I mean, had I not known that Que was meant to be Wheeljack kinda sorta, I never would have picked him as that since I'm not even entirely sure he was addressed by name in DotM.
Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:37 AM
Instead, I submit that due to the Transformers being common knowledge by 2005, disguises weren't mandatory, and so a lot of characters didn't bother getting Earth modes, or only got them if their assignments specifically required disguise. As for why they used wheels instead of hovering like the vehicles in MTMTE did, four million years of energy shortages during the timeskip in that episode meant that most Transformers replaced their hover drives with wheels to save fuel.
Edited by Fear or Courage, 28 January 2013 - 10:37 AM.
Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:01 PM
The Quintesson-produced Underbase network held Earth's coordinates (along with those of every world the Quints interacted with).
When The Fallen was banished, he and his followers used that database to seek out new worlds to conquer.
When a young Starscream and Skyfire left Cybertron, they too were using that database, intending to visit those "unexplored" worlds. Their mission encountered the Fallen, who placed a subconscious "post-programming" geass on Starscream, sending him back to Cybertron --ostensibly to bring a "rescue" force for Skyfire, all of whom would be further enslaved. This rescue ended up never materializing, as Starscream was captured and further brainwashed by Megatron immediately upon returning.
Early in the War, Optimus Prime ejected the Underbase cube from Cybertron to keep it out of Megatron's hands. That the Underbase ended up on Earth is the only real "coincidence" in any of this --a mere happenstance that forever changed the histories of both worlds.
(An unknown series of events broke the Fallen's hold on Earth and forced him into stasis.)
When the Ark left seeking energon, they used the same target list that Skyfire's mission had used. Starscream thought there was something "familiar" about this planet, but was too distracted by the ongoing battle to notice details.
(Archibald Witwicky encountered not Megatron, but the Cybertronian Underbase, which engraved its homing frequency on his glasses, ensuring its eventual discovery [and destruction].)
The Ark and Nemesis crews awoke in 1985, and eventually re-established contact with Cybertron. Earth became a flashpoint of the Autobot/Decepticon war.
The Quintessons are driven into extinction, leaving a single survivor; Alpha-Q. Alpha-Q sought to use Unicron's technology to re-make Quintessa. Thanks to the intervention of humans, his plan instead lead to the rebirth of Quintessa as it existed millennia before --when the ancestors of the Quintessons were only beginning to develop civilization.
(Starscream's geass eventually reasserted itself, and the Fallen was awoken --only to be destroyed by Optimus Prime, thus eliminating the last of the Thirteen.)
Hundreds of years after the Great War, a band of Predacon criminals set out, deliberately seeking out Earth (where they knew they would find the Ark), and ending up millions of years in the past.
Trillions of years hence, the reborn Quintessons, having evolved into the Vok, traveled back in time to seed the young Earth with raw energon, thus ensuring the Quintessons' interest in Earth, and thus their own Ascendance.
Edited by Cybersnark, 28 January 2013 - 12:05 PM.
Posted 28 January 2013 - 03:25 PM
For example, I regard King Poseidon as being the same character as Piranacon. This is just what Piranacon was up to in the G1 animated continuity. The names "King Poseidon" and "Piranacon" work the same way as "Convoy" and "Optimus Prime." The exception would be characters like the human Wilder, who is not the same as the Decepticon Fangry, the difference being one is human and the other is a robot.
The Shout Factory subs *almost* do this, mostly using American names, but they aren't totally consistent, and still name some of the humans after their robot counterparts.
If it were up to me, I'd merge some wiki articles that are currently split. But I'm outvoted on this, so I'll just keep it as personal canon.
Posted 28 January 2013 - 03:29 PM
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