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@  RichardT1977 : (22 August 2017 - 10:56 PM)

Got some good views of the buildup, though (through certified filter glasses, of course)

@  RichardT1977 : (22 August 2017 - 10:56 PM)

I was in the zone of totality when the eclipse came. Unfortunately, I was also in the zone of cloud cover.

@  Evac : (22 August 2017 - 07:41 PM)

the one Bon Jovi song I unironically enjoy

@  Evac : (22 August 2017 - 07:41 PM)

Blaze of Glory

@  Telly : (22 August 2017 - 07:24 PM)

was out at walmart early and ran into an old family friend. my phone was playing "blaze of glory" by bon jovi, she said she hadnt heard it for a long time. i said i like old music, its better than the crap they put out today. is this how OUR parents felt about our music?

@  unluckiness : (22 August 2017 - 09:44 AM)

Nah, they could tell by the lack of the very distinctive dialogue delivery. They just didn't want to be mean.

@  Dracula : (22 August 2017 - 08:42 AM)

Moon base is fine. I knew the castle was a total loss so I gave Olrox my best cape and told him he could have the throne room. The damn belmonts couldn't tell the difference

@  Pennpenn : (22 August 2017 - 06:39 AM)

It's probably because that's a direct quote rather than an attempt to self censor

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 August 2017 - 06:26 AM)

"shit" isn't filtered anymore

@  Donocropolis : (22 August 2017 - 05:51 AM)

Elvis doesn't do sh*t.

@  Pennpenn : (22 August 2017 - 03:38 AM)

Fine, though Elvis has a bit of a headache.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 August 2017 - 03:27 AM)

How's his moon base?

@  Waspinator : (21 August 2017 - 11:02 PM)

Thankfully, Dracula's castle didn't escape the eclipse this time.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:41 PM)

In retaliation, President Trump threatens to nuke the moon.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:40 PM)

This just in: ISIS claims responsibility for the eclipse.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Which left like a hundred disappointed middle schoolers.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Where I'm located got 95% eclipse. Which lacked a worthwhile climax. I really should have driven into it, but I planned on going to my science teacher wife's school thing that got cancelled last minute.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 August 2017 - 03:44 PM)

I was considering trying to get the day off for it and driving down south to the US far enough that I could see the total eclipse, but after looking into it it seems like there's another total eclipse coming up in 2024 where the totality will be visible just 45 minutes south-west of me, so I figure I'll wait it out

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 03:30 PM)

don't worry, social media didn't.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2017 - 02:59 PM)

shoot... I forgot all about the eclipse.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2017 - 02:36 PM)

lewd

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 01:30 PM)

i wanted a peek at the sun's peak too.

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 01:02 PM)

Just caught a peak of the 'bitten' sun. COOL!!

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 12:46 PM)

I got my cereal box eclipse viewer ready. Hopefully these clouds part...

@  Dracula : (21 August 2017 - 09:44 AM)

well I'm supposed to be permanently sealed in a dimensional rift today so I've gotta stay on guard

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 09:38 AM)

Any of you nerds going outside today?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2017 - 07:52 AM)

"Would have been?" Isn't he still on the Batgirl thing?

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2017 - 07:46 AM)

It probably wouldn't be worse but it sure would have been really samey to everything else he's done.

@  Paladin : (21 August 2017 - 06:42 AM)

i am still not convinced he could do a worse job with Batgirl than Bruce Timm already did.

@  Pennpenn : (21 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

The thing to remember about Madman is that they are often more enthusiastic than they are reliable.

@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.


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#1 Starfield

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 10:37 PM

Why does Heavy Load, a G1 guy (well, a "Classic series" guy?whatever that is) have a Mini-Con partner?

As we all know, the Decepticons found Heavy Load is his laboratory with his brain module fried out due to hundreds of years of exposure to toxic chemicals. He was essentially useless to the Decepticons at this point, so they assigned Drill Bit to him to see if he could do anything with him to make him functional enough to be of some kind of use.

Drill Bit discovered that by Powerlinxing with Heavy Load, he could very easily take over his body, since his broken mind could not put up any kind of resistance. To Drill Bit's surprise, Heavy Load retained all of his chemistry skills deep within his sub-processors. A "restored" Heavy Load climbed the Decepticon ranks, with nobody really realizing that it was Drill Bit that was controlling his actions. In those times were Drill Bit could not be there to guide him, Heavy Load amused himself by torturing Autobots and develops poisons and corrosive bombs for Decepticon gangs.
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What's the deal with Hound's bracket that Ravage rides on?

On a scouting mission, Hound intercepted a signal that Soundwave inadvertently left unencrypted. Hound relayed the signal back to Autobase for analysis by Hubcap. It was discovered to be a control signal that coordinated the cassette's transformation and docking and undocking with his chest. Hubcap developed this into a device which would allow Hound, at short distances, to force cassettes to transform and dock with a specially designed stasis clamp installed on his Jeep mode, allowing the cassettes to be captured. However, if this trick is ever used in the presence of Soundwave, he will realize he needs to reconfigure his protocols.
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What happened to Rev? (Yes, movieverse Breakaway #1 is Getaway.)

He wanted to retire as Getaway's partner, so his Powermaster abilities were transferred to a rechargeable Powermaster Key, which, like Rev, runs mostly on hamburgers and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 12:36 AM

I came up with something similar to your Heavy Load story during Energon. I characterized Rapid Run as being a "front" for his two Mini-Cons who had been generally rejected by the Bulks because their special ability was to take control of whoever they Powerlinked to. The Rapid Run body was a corpse left over from the Unicron Battles which their powers could reanimate. I never really worked out the practical explanation for switching between heads that would be distinct from what Sideways had already done, though. He/they were affiliated with the Terrorcons under Scorponok's command.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 01:16 AM

Why the Military Patrol (Decepticons) work with the Battle Patrol (Autobots)
With Dropshot(Decepticon) the new Pilot of Groundshaker(Autobot)

Just before the final weeks of the great war the Military Patrol lost a member of its unit Bombshock to a Decepticon attack they where aided and saved by the Battle Patrol
who lost Groundshaker there commander of there base they downloaded Groundshakers mind into the base its self and Dropshot who has a simular alt mode became the pilot

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 01:55 AM

Universe Hotshot:

upon the loss of Vector Primes' corporeal existence in the UT timeline the mini-con Jolt becomes the new guardian of time space, instantly becoming a nexus point for all other versions of himself throughout the multiverse. Sensing the presence of Unicron in other realities Joltprime reconfigure himself and his formerArmada partner and transports them across existences to continue the battle for the side of order.

-and then I realized I can't use Prime in that context now.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 06:21 AM

Oooh boy.

Let's start near the beginning:

The Quintessons are not so much a race as a way of thought.

While the originally Cephalapodic species of the Quintessons still rules, many other species have been absorbed into their transorganic existence, offering near-immortality, the freedom to engage in whatever endevour one desires, and freedom from scarcity.
In that respect, they are much like the shattered glass quintessons, however through immortality and freedom from restraint brings decadence, and cruelty. The Quintessons lacked for nothing, and saw themselves as gods.
To unite their empire they built an artificial planet around a star, acting as a new capital world, and supplying them with limitless power from the star.

To serve them as they lived in luxury, they built servitor robots of many designs, fufilling many different forms and fuctions.
Unfortunately for the Quintessons, their knowledge of science was too perfect, the energy from the star, even as it was forced to age ahead of its time into a blue dwarf, acted as the spark that was needed to bring their slaves' artificial programming to full awareness.
It took generations for the first cybertronians to fully awake, and even longer for them to chafe at the restraints. Even as they were shipped off-world to become slaves or guardians on the thousand worlds of the Quintesson imperium, a small group decided that they would never be more than product to the Quintessons, never viewed as equals. And so they plotted.

These thirteen ringleaders found allies amongst the other cybertronians, armed themselves with what they could find or make, and eventually struck. A great war errupted, the slaves rose up, and threw off their shackles, and forced the Quintessons off world, although the final battle was decided between the 13 heroes, forged in battle, against the Devourer, a humanoid weapon created by the Quintesson scientist Primacron.

With the battle concluded, and the corpse of the Devourer reduced to rubble in cybertron's orbit, the Quintessons were driven from Cybertron, supposedly never to return. Here a new battle began, as brother turned on brother.
Megatronus Prime argued that the Quintessons must be exterminated, for they would never let the cybertronians have their freedom. Prima Prime, declared that he simply wanted the Quintessons off world, they would no longer be a threat, and cybertron would be able to remain free.
In the end, Megatronus murdered Prima in an ambush, and pinned the blame on the Quintessons.
When the truth emerged, Megatronus was sentenced to Imprisonment. The primes now knowing of an ancient Quintesson transwarp gate deep within Cybertron. Here, bound and disarmed, Megatronus was sentenced into a realm of pure fire, or rather, transported into the heart of a star far, far across the void. Before he was gated away, Megatronus, now stripped of his name, and dubbed "The Fallen", proclamed that he would return to plague the galaxy again, and all who would not join him would perish in war.

Berift of the leadership of Prima, and with the shock of this primal fratricide, the Primes were forever sundered, and many left Cybertron, seeking other worlds to guide or rule, as they saw fit.
Meanwhile a Golden Age developed on Cybertron, gates to link other worlds were created and new worlds were seeded with Cybertronian life. The wreckage of the battle with the Devourer had settled into an asteroid belt and a system of moons, where Modus Prime, the smallest of the original 13 rebels, had brought his "minicon" bretherin to dwell, although within the largest of the moons, the ember of the Devourer still burned, and he drank the light coming from the star within cybertron, and he plotted.

Amongst the far stars, the Quintessons were no longer united, and their mighty empire fell apart, their worlds sundered with each world claiming their right to rule the others, and the devastation of worlds commensed, until only a handful were left.
In this expanse of shattered worlds, the remaining Quintessons wait, remember the time they were once as gods, and plot.

At the core of the galaxy, near the event horizon of a black hole, the Scientist Primacron dwells, planning to reclaim the world he views as his, and to create a new servent, more powerful than the Devourer. And so he plots.

In a star, the Fallen exists, in constant agony, the very metal that made up his body disolving in the plasma fires of creation, screaming vengence upon his fellows and their children, as his rage becomes all that sustains his spark, until it merges with the plasma of the star, and his spark of darkness becomes a field of energy and rage, he does not plot, for now he has nothing left but anger, and a desire to cover the entire galaxy in his red light.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 07:54 AM

Return of Optimus Prime is an OVA, the Rebirth is its sequel. G1 ends with Burden Hardest To Bear

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 09:12 PM

I actually think I might add that to my own canon Cavalier
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Posted 13 November 2011 - 10:42 PM

QUOTE(Cavalier @ Nov 13 2011, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Return of Optimus Prime is an OVA, the Rebirth is its sequel. G1 ends with Burden Hardest To Bear

What does "OVA" mean?

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 11:51 PM

orignal video animation

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 11:58 PM

a pair of ovaries

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 12:05 AM

Kid friendly kid friendly! icon-fire.gif

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 04:15 AM

My personal canon is based steeply in a combination of Armada and Animated. Basically the plot of Animated, but with the cast of Armada and Minicons instead of the Allspark.

I just wish I had the toys to support it.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 04:32 AM

Beast Machines never happened

Everybody went home satisfied and Megatron rotted in jail.


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Posted 14 November 2011 - 05:56 AM

QUOTE(Starfield @ Nov 13 2011, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Cavalier @ Nov 13 2011, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Return of Optimus Prime is an OVA, the Rebirth is its sequel. G1 ends with Burden Hardest To Bear

What does "OVA" mean?


It's anime-speak for "This didn't actually happen, but we wanted to do it any. Enjoy!". Most of the time at least.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 07:14 AM

When it comes to personal canon I don't have much of a one, but I do have a Crisis-style explanation for multiversal singularities that I'm fond of - I like to think that there used to just be one universe, but the forces released in the Thirteen's final battle with Unicron were so catastrophic that they shattered reality itself and it splintered into the multiverse. And it's because they existed before this shattering happened that Unicron, Primus and the Thirteen are singularities.

EDIT: And after a moment's further thought, I've just decided that the "Aligned" continuity is the "New Earth" in this scenario - what the universe would be like if it had never splintered, thereby explaining its kinda odd (kinda nonsensical) "separate from the multiverse" status.

Edited by Chris McFeely, 14 November 2011 - 07:32 AM.


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Posted 14 November 2011 - 09:53 AM

Sideways is Tarantulas.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 10:32 AM

I actually went so far as to draw up a full MS Word document listing of changes I'd make to A/E/C; anyone who wants to see the full shebang can shoot me a PM.

The gist of it?

Armada: The kids would be re-written so that they'd be rounded characters instead of being so relatively flat; in the process, they'd actually become useful for more than just finding the occasional Mini-Con crystal *and* it would explain why their portrayal in Energon is so radically different from their Armada personas. As part of it, the episode "Vacation" would be chucked in favor of a character-building episode that would not only play up a number of "hidden depths" of certain characters but also explain the whole "Wait - Alexis is supposed to be Vietnamese?!" snafu (Alexis tries to trace her family tree, in the process walking right into a trap set up by Sideways).

Energon: 90% of the episodes would be tossed in favor of both a more streamlined plot and an actual explanation as to why so much of the cast was so messed up in the head.

Cybertron: Cybertron can actually stand on its own as a self-contained series with just a tiny bit of tinkering to make it better.
Lexicon: still up and running!

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 11:40 AM

Springer shot first.

QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 14 November 2011 - 12:06 PM

Thunderwing and Thunderblast are a Cybetronian Celebrity couple called "ThunderBling"

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 01:17 PM

The Matrix of Leadership and The Creation Matrix and The Oracle are all just interfaces for either The Allspark or Primus.

I tend to ignore all club story lines.

Japanese figures speak Japanese.

Dragstrip is female.
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