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@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers


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#1 Starfield

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 10:37 PM

Why does Heavy Load, a G1 guy (well, a "Classic series" guy?whatever that is) have a Mini-Con partner?

As we all know, the Decepticons found Heavy Load is his laboratory with his brain module fried out due to hundreds of years of exposure to toxic chemicals. He was essentially useless to the Decepticons at this point, so they assigned Drill Bit to him to see if he could do anything with him to make him functional enough to be of some kind of use.

Drill Bit discovered that by Powerlinxing with Heavy Load, he could very easily take over his body, since his broken mind could not put up any kind of resistance. To Drill Bit's surprise, Heavy Load retained all of his chemistry skills deep within his sub-processors. A "restored" Heavy Load climbed the Decepticon ranks, with nobody really realizing that it was Drill Bit that was controlling his actions. In those times were Drill Bit could not be there to guide him, Heavy Load amused himself by torturing Autobots and develops poisons and corrosive bombs for Decepticon gangs.
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What's the deal with Hound's bracket that Ravage rides on?

On a scouting mission, Hound intercepted a signal that Soundwave inadvertently left unencrypted. Hound relayed the signal back to Autobase for analysis by Hubcap. It was discovered to be a control signal that coordinated the cassette's transformation and docking and undocking with his chest. Hubcap developed this into a device which would allow Hound, at short distances, to force cassettes to transform and dock with a specially designed stasis clamp installed on his Jeep mode, allowing the cassettes to be captured. However, if this trick is ever used in the presence of Soundwave, he will realize he needs to reconfigure his protocols.
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What happened to Rev? (Yes, movieverse Breakaway #1 is Getaway.)

He wanted to retire as Getaway's partner, so his Powermaster abilities were transferred to a rechargeable Powermaster Key, which, like Rev, runs mostly on hamburgers and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 12:36 AM

I came up with something similar to your Heavy Load story during Energon. I characterized Rapid Run as being a "front" for his two Mini-Cons who had been generally rejected by the Bulks because their special ability was to take control of whoever they Powerlinked to. The Rapid Run body was a corpse left over from the Unicron Battles which their powers could reanimate. I never really worked out the practical explanation for switching between heads that would be distinct from what Sideways had already done, though. He/they were affiliated with the Terrorcons under Scorponok's command.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 01:16 AM

Why the Military Patrol (Decepticons) work with the Battle Patrol (Autobots)
With Dropshot(Decepticon) the new Pilot of Groundshaker(Autobot)

Just before the final weeks of the great war the Military Patrol lost a member of its unit Bombshock to a Decepticon attack they where aided and saved by the Battle Patrol
who lost Groundshaker there commander of there base they downloaded Groundshakers mind into the base its self and Dropshot who has a simular alt mode became the pilot

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 01:55 AM

Universe Hotshot:

upon the loss of Vector Primes' corporeal existence in the UT timeline the mini-con Jolt becomes the new guardian of time space, instantly becoming a nexus point for all other versions of himself throughout the multiverse. Sensing the presence of Unicron in other realities Joltprime reconfigure himself and his formerArmada partner and transports them across existences to continue the battle for the side of order.

-and then I realized I can't use Prime in that context now.

Edited by Destron D-69, 13 November 2011 - 01:56 AM.


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Posted 13 November 2011 - 06:21 AM

Oooh boy.

Let's start near the beginning:

The Quintessons are not so much a race as a way of thought.

While the originally Cephalapodic species of the Quintessons still rules, many other species have been absorbed into their transorganic existence, offering near-immortality, the freedom to engage in whatever endevour one desires, and freedom from scarcity.
In that respect, they are much like the shattered glass quintessons, however through immortality and freedom from restraint brings decadence, and cruelty. The Quintessons lacked for nothing, and saw themselves as gods.
To unite their empire they built an artificial planet around a star, acting as a new capital world, and supplying them with limitless power from the star.

To serve them as they lived in luxury, they built servitor robots of many designs, fufilling many different forms and fuctions.
Unfortunately for the Quintessons, their knowledge of science was too perfect, the energy from the star, even as it was forced to age ahead of its time into a blue dwarf, acted as the spark that was needed to bring their slaves' artificial programming to full awareness.
It took generations for the first cybertronians to fully awake, and even longer for them to chafe at the restraints. Even as they were shipped off-world to become slaves or guardians on the thousand worlds of the Quintesson imperium, a small group decided that they would never be more than product to the Quintessons, never viewed as equals. And so they plotted.

These thirteen ringleaders found allies amongst the other cybertronians, armed themselves with what they could find or make, and eventually struck. A great war errupted, the slaves rose up, and threw off their shackles, and forced the Quintessons off world, although the final battle was decided between the 13 heroes, forged in battle, against the Devourer, a humanoid weapon created by the Quintesson scientist Primacron.

With the battle concluded, and the corpse of the Devourer reduced to rubble in cybertron's orbit, the Quintessons were driven from Cybertron, supposedly never to return. Here a new battle began, as brother turned on brother.
Megatronus Prime argued that the Quintessons must be exterminated, for they would never let the cybertronians have their freedom. Prima Prime, declared that he simply wanted the Quintessons off world, they would no longer be a threat, and cybertron would be able to remain free.
In the end, Megatronus murdered Prima in an ambush, and pinned the blame on the Quintessons.
When the truth emerged, Megatronus was sentenced to Imprisonment. The primes now knowing of an ancient Quintesson transwarp gate deep within Cybertron. Here, bound and disarmed, Megatronus was sentenced into a realm of pure fire, or rather, transported into the heart of a star far, far across the void. Before he was gated away, Megatronus, now stripped of his name, and dubbed "The Fallen", proclamed that he would return to plague the galaxy again, and all who would not join him would perish in war.

Berift of the leadership of Prima, and with the shock of this primal fratricide, the Primes were forever sundered, and many left Cybertron, seeking other worlds to guide or rule, as they saw fit.
Meanwhile a Golden Age developed on Cybertron, gates to link other worlds were created and new worlds were seeded with Cybertronian life. The wreckage of the battle with the Devourer had settled into an asteroid belt and a system of moons, where Modus Prime, the smallest of the original 13 rebels, had brought his "minicon" bretherin to dwell, although within the largest of the moons, the ember of the Devourer still burned, and he drank the light coming from the star within cybertron, and he plotted.

Amongst the far stars, the Quintessons were no longer united, and their mighty empire fell apart, their worlds sundered with each world claiming their right to rule the others, and the devastation of worlds commensed, until only a handful were left.
In this expanse of shattered worlds, the remaining Quintessons wait, remember the time they were once as gods, and plot.

At the core of the galaxy, near the event horizon of a black hole, the Scientist Primacron dwells, planning to reclaim the world he views as his, and to create a new servent, more powerful than the Devourer. And so he plots.

In a star, the Fallen exists, in constant agony, the very metal that made up his body disolving in the plasma fires of creation, screaming vengence upon his fellows and their children, as his rage becomes all that sustains his spark, until it merges with the plasma of the star, and his spark of darkness becomes a field of energy and rage, he does not plot, for now he has nothing left but anger, and a desire to cover the entire galaxy in his red light.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 07:54 AM

Return of Optimus Prime is an OVA, the Rebirth is its sequel. G1 ends with Burden Hardest To Bear

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 09:12 PM

I actually think I might add that to my own canon Cavalier

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 10:42 PM

QUOTE(Cavalier @ Nov 13 2011, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Return of Optimus Prime is an OVA, the Rebirth is its sequel. G1 ends with Burden Hardest To Bear

What does "OVA" mean?

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 11:51 PM

orignal video animation

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 11:58 PM

a pair of ovaries

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 12:05 AM

Kid friendly kid friendly! icon-fire.gif

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 04:15 AM

My personal canon is based steeply in a combination of Armada and Animated. Basically the plot of Animated, but with the cast of Armada and Minicons instead of the Allspark.

I just wish I had the toys to support it.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 04:32 AM

Beast Machines never happened

Everybody went home satisfied and Megatron rotted in jail.


if you can see this, i apologize for the above tweet, i was young and stupid and had nothing of value to say. please support lgbtq rights and listen to women's voices. that's all that really matters now. the right is evil, and should be opposed. thanks.


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Posted 14 November 2011 - 05:56 AM

QUOTE(Starfield @ Nov 13 2011, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Cavalier @ Nov 13 2011, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Return of Optimus Prime is an OVA, the Rebirth is its sequel. G1 ends with Burden Hardest To Bear

What does "OVA" mean?


It's anime-speak for "This didn't actually happen, but we wanted to do it any. Enjoy!". Most of the time at least.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 07:14 AM

When it comes to personal canon I don't have much of a one, but I do have a Crisis-style explanation for multiversal singularities that I'm fond of - I like to think that there used to just be one universe, but the forces released in the Thirteen's final battle with Unicron were so catastrophic that they shattered reality itself and it splintered into the multiverse. And it's because they existed before this shattering happened that Unicron, Primus and the Thirteen are singularities.

EDIT: And after a moment's further thought, I've just decided that the "Aligned" continuity is the "New Earth" in this scenario - what the universe would be like if it had never splintered, thereby explaining its kinda odd (kinda nonsensical) "separate from the multiverse" status.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 09:53 AM

Sideways is Tarantulas.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 10:32 AM

I actually went so far as to draw up a full MS Word document listing of changes I'd make to A/E/C; anyone who wants to see the full shebang can shoot me a PM.

The gist of it?

Armada: The kids would be re-written so that they'd be rounded characters instead of being so relatively flat; in the process, they'd actually become useful for more than just finding the occasional Mini-Con crystal *and* it would explain why their portrayal in Energon is so radically different from their Armada personas. As part of it, the episode "Vacation" would be chucked in favor of a character-building episode that would not only play up a number of "hidden depths" of certain characters but also explain the whole "Wait - Alexis is supposed to be Vietnamese?!" snafu (Alexis tries to trace her family tree, in the process walking right into a trap set up by Sideways).

Energon: 90% of the episodes would be tossed in favor of both a more streamlined plot and an actual explanation as to why so much of the cast was so messed up in the head.

Cybertron: Cybertron can actually stand on its own as a self-contained series with just a tiny bit of tinkering to make it better.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 11:40 AM

Springer shot first.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 12:06 PM

Thunderwing and Thunderblast are a Cybetronian Celebrity couple called "ThunderBling"

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 01:17 PM

The Matrix of Leadership and The Creation Matrix and The Oracle are all just interfaces for either The Allspark or Primus.

I tend to ignore all club story lines.

Japanese figures speak Japanese.

Dragstrip is female.
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