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@  Nutjob R/T : (23 January 2017 - 07:12 PM)

#wetsockforpresident

@  RichardT1977 : (23 January 2017 - 05:33 PM)

Yamcha would be a better President than Trump...

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 January 2017 - 03:06 PM)

Damning with faint praise there.

@  Bass X0 : (23 January 2017 - 03:06 PM)

Kodos would be a better president than Trump.

@  Echowarrior : (23 January 2017 - 02:29 PM)

*whipcrack*

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 January 2017 - 02:23 PM)

Don't blame me! I voted for Kodos!

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 January 2017 - 10:01 AM)

No, all the evils people voted for in 2016 were known.

@  Rycochet : (23 January 2017 - 09:35 AM)

Didn't people have enough of voting for unknown evils in 2016? Come on, it's so last year.

@  Robowang : (23 January 2017 - 08:49 AM)

woooo Unknown Evil

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 January 2017 - 08:21 AM)

Jinbu has legs that go all the way up.

@  Rycochet : (23 January 2017 - 07:11 AM)

Unless you really like legs that go all the way up to the armpits.

@  Rycochet : (23 January 2017 - 07:11 AM)

I would say repaint Jinbu from Transformers Go, but let's not, they're just awful.

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2017 - 07:20 AM)

He's samurai themed? Anyway, I meant "samurai themed" in the Bludgeon's Pretender shell sense.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 January 2017 - 07:15 AM)

Armada Starscream?

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2017 - 07:13 AM)

Actually I'm vaguely surprized samurai themed Seekers haven't somehow congealed within the TF brand at some point.

@  Telly : (21 January 2017 - 08:26 PM)

if they dont seek pizza im out

@  Bass X0 : (21 January 2017 - 02:40 PM)

Samurai Seeker Jets!

@  Rycochet : (21 January 2017 - 12:42 PM)

The Big Cheese is the villain, who's lower than low. It's a rotten shame he lives in Little Tokyo.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2017 - 12:38 PM)

For the kaiju/restaurant theme, better be the Samurai Pizza Cats instead.

@  Rycochet : (21 January 2017 - 12:28 PM)

I prefer Mighty Morphin' Meower Rangers.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2017 - 12:07 PM)

Okay, that got too weird, let's just use the Megazordenny's instead.

@  ▲ndrusi : (21 January 2017 - 09:20 AM)

no, no, not all hope for the characters, all hope for the viewer understanding what the hell is going on.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 January 2017 - 07:33 AM)

Isn't that like.. every second spent watching Eva? *hides!*

@  Telly : (21 January 2017 - 02:26 AM)

usually about halfway through, when all hope seems lost

@  Copper Bezel : (21 January 2017 - 02:01 AM)

I understand using Eva to fight monsters, but where does Bob come into it?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2017 - 01:29 AM)

Of course we'll need Bob EVAs to fight all these critters...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2017 - 01:21 AM)

Or Otachipotle.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 January 2017 - 11:03 PM)

Sorry Waspinator, but Sean Bean already reserved that one.

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2017 - 09:51 PM)

Isn't the answer "Pepperoni and Cheese"?

@  Waspinator : (20 January 2017 - 09:12 PM)

"Oh no, not again."

@  The Doctor Who : (20 January 2017 - 08:54 PM)

What do you want on your Tombstone?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (20 January 2017 - 08:52 PM)

I summon Mothrally's to champion the cause of a new/old line of discussion!

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2017 - 07:24 PM)

Fair enough, sorry. Although, I think as more people get upset you're going to see it leaking out more.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2017 - 06:25 PM)

Can the politics stay in P&R? I don't really need an emetic that badly.

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2017 - 05:37 PM)

All of Trump's base are stone cold morons, so there's that. Then again, a lot of people would argue that America has nevr been "great", or even when it is there's plenty to bring down it's score.

@  Vexwing : (20 January 2017 - 04:18 PM)

A lot of Trump's base would probably claim it stopped being great 8 years ago.

@  Locoman : (20 January 2017 - 03:44 PM)

And today is National Cheese Lover's Day, apparently, so perhaps we should make America grate again while we're at it

@  Bass X0 : (20 January 2017 - 03:43 PM)

How long has it not been great for?

@  Nevermore : (20 January 2017 - 02:34 PM)

Finally, America is great again.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 January 2017 - 12:03 PM)

Me too!

@  Arazyr : (20 January 2017 - 10:08 AM)

My daughters and I have been looking forward to that!

@  Benbot : (20 January 2017 - 09:44 AM)

Nevermind that. Today is a day to celebrate, because season 2 of Voltron is up on Netflix!

@  ShadowMan024 : (19 January 2017 - 06:51 PM)

Past 8 years? Try "past 241."

@  Xellos : (19 January 2017 - 06:44 PM)

So basically the same as the past 8 years. Guess that works too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 January 2017 - 06:25 PM)

We as a nation either drank too much or not enough. It's difficult to say, really.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 January 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Isn't America being crazy drunk how we got in this situation in the first place?

@  BlackMax : (19 January 2017 - 04:18 PM)

I plan on being very American about every single injustice our new leader perpetrates ("American" of course meaning "annoyed and loud").

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 January 2017 - 02:38 PM)

I plan to just stick my fingers in my ears and pretend I don't hear anything.

@  Bass X0 : (19 January 2017 - 02:26 PM)

I recommend America just get crazy drunk for the next four years. It's the only way you're going to get through them.

@  Paladin : (19 January 2017 - 08:34 AM)

everyone go vote for Guilermo Del Toro. We need a Hellboy 3 now more than ever. https://www.bleeding...nt-hellboy-iii/


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Is it still possible to buy a legit Henkei Starscream?


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Posted 10 November 2011 - 08:46 PM

Like it says in the topic: is it still possible to buy a Henkei Starscream without just having to hope you haven't dropped a lot of money on the crappy knockoff? s there any way to tell from the packaging? I've been burned once on this, because I didn't realize the KO was available in normal Starscream colors. Should I just assume they're all fakes?

Edited by Chip, 10 November 2011 - 08:48 PM.


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Posted 10 November 2011 - 09:22 PM

As I understand it, the KO doesn't have a TakaraTomy logo on the upper right hand side, and lacks the embossed Transformers logo on the bubble.

Ah, that only applies to the second release of the KO. :/

Edited by Spectre, 10 November 2011 - 09:25 PM.


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Posted 10 November 2011 - 09:39 PM

I didn't think they KO'ed Henkei Starscream, but they must have...

The real Henkei Starscream is very pretty, probably my favorite release of the Seeker mold, it's just very good.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 11:28 PM

Do your due diligence, I am sure there are tells. The sky isn't falling.
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Posted 11 November 2011 - 01:35 AM

QUOTE(GALVATRON I @ Nov 10 2011, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do your due diligence, I am sure there are tells. The sky isn't falling.

Oh, once you open him it's completely obvious. Aside from the known tell in the shoulder sculpt, there are quality differences: torso won't quite close, wings are floppy, feels cheap. None of that is helpful when you're buying stuff on the internet.

Spectre, thanks for the helpful info. I may just go with the Universe toy.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 07:36 AM

QUOTE(GALVATRON I @ Nov 10 2011, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do your due diligence, I am sure there are tells. The sky isn't falling.


Not to restart an extremely tired argument, but fans put off purchasing a legit item because of the abundance of KO's of said item = not good for the health of the collector base, surely?

TF's seem to have so many more current and 'accurate' bootlegs than a lot of other lines I collect.

It's great it has that level of appeal, but well, people get frustrated if they think they're buying the real deal, and get a KO instead. Yeah they can get re-imbursed, but it's still off-putting for the next time you go to buy online.


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Posted 11 November 2011 - 08:24 AM

I know I would be hesitant to buy any of the Henkei Seekers without thorough investigation or trusting the dealer from previous experience.

Hugging KO-makers...

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 02:22 PM

What about Henkei Megatron? Are there issues of legitimacy with those as well?

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 02:35 PM

KO's I believe are limited to every iteration of the Henkei/Gentei Seekers, Mirage (specifically the BotCon, Clear Gentei, Fracture, Dragstrip, and the Henkei), Classics Voyager Optimus (specifically SG Optimus, Convoy Black, Crystal Convoy), Classics Rodimus (specifically Wildrider and SG Rodimus), and Universe Sideswipe.

I haven't heard of any KO's of Voyager Megatron or anyone else (I may be forgetting someone though).

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 02:40 PM

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 02:41 PM

There are Voyager Megatron KOs, but they aren't identical to any release. They have odd colors, and in some cases, minor remolds.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 02:42 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Nov 11 2011, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
KO's I believe are limited to every iteration of the Henkei/Gentei Seekers, Mirage (specifically the BotCon, Clear Gentei, Fracture, Dragstrip, and the Henkei), Classics Voyager Optimus (specifically SG Optimus, Convoy Black, Crystal Convoy), Classics Rodimus (specifically Wildrider and SG Rodimus), and Universe Sideswipe.

I haven't heard of any KO's of Voyager Megatron or anyone else (I may be forgetting someone though).

Randy


There are non-replica KOs of the Voyager Classic Megatron mold, but no replica KOs of it. The non-replica KOs are completely original decos and packaging. Some add light and sound! Still, impossible to mistake for the HasTak item.






Edited by mignash, 11 November 2011 - 02:44 PM.


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Posted 11 November 2011 - 03:42 PM

I was completely unaware of the Mirage-mold KOs until I sold my Dragstrip and two different bidders emailed me to make sure he was legit. I had to go check a comparison thread at TFW just to be sure I hadn't been ripped off when I bought him.

I have no real objection to crazypants knockoffs like those Megatrons. The orange one looks outstanding.