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@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:37 AM)

Either way, I'd stick to the definitions of the people who actually work in the field and know what they're talking about over incredibly loose unhelpful ones 

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:34 AM)

Which fossils and genetic sequencing proved were quite different from wolves as we know them. Which is kind of the point, since while domesticated organisms changed genetically, so have their wild counterparts.

@  Pennpenn : (23 January 2019 - 08:34 AM)

I mean, even more extreme would be to ask if cows would turn back into aurochs. They'd go feral or exitinct, but they wouldn't revert.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:33 AM)

Don't be ridiculous. The domesticated dog wasn't derived from the modern wolf. Both descended from a common ancestor

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 08:33 AM)

Then they are still Geneticly modified. ;P I mean hell, in a lot of cases, there is very little difference between removing a gene and making it dormant. Anyways. Gotta run, stuff to do right now. Have fun.

@  Pennpenn : (23 January 2019 - 08:32 AM)

The ones that survived would be more wolf like, but they wouldn't be wolves. And in a lot of cases without human intervention most of the heavily modified animals and plants wouldn't survive a "few generations".

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 08:31 AM)

Are you saying, given a few years (relativily speaking) of no humans, dogs will return to wolves?

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:30 AM)

Within a few generations without human intervention, the same traits resurface. because again, the genes aren't changed. Only the population.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:28 AM)

The genes for those traits are still present though. You're not manipulating the genotype, rather than the phenotype of the population.

@  Pennpenn : (23 January 2019 - 08:26 AM)

The fact that it's a more indirect method compared to, say, CRISPR is irrelevant.

@  Pennpenn : (23 January 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Selective breeding is a form of genetic manipulation, since you're restricting or eliminating unfavored genetic patterns from being expressed in the target organisms.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 08:25 AM)

As it should be... People whine about GMO, but most of it is because they don't understand that biotech is usually just a faster way of doing the exact same thing thousands of years of crossbreading does.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:20 AM)

You can call it whatever you like, but again, that definition is so wide as to be worthless and few people would agree with the definition.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:20 AM)

The commonly accepted definition of "genetic modification" by the scientific community involves biotechnology and direct manipulation of genetic material

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 08:13 AM)

But.. While slower.. That's -exactly- what crossbreeding is.. Genetic modification.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:02 AM)

Which is patently ridiculous. They didn't modify the genetic makeup of these organisms; just manipulated the odds of traits deemed as favorable being expressed. 

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 07:53 AM)

By that definition, literally everything that humans have domesticated is a GMO.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 07:44 AM)

Why? It's completely geneticly modified to be almost completely distinct from what a real banana is.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 06:52 AM)

By looser definitions of GMO. So loose as to be worthless pretty much.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 06:35 AM)

So.. All banannas that anyone eats.. organic or not.. is a GMO..

@  Pennpenn : (23 January 2019 - 06:23 AM)

Aren't they usually called palatains? But yeah, the only reason those cultivars survive at all is because of humans.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 06:16 AM)

That said, there are still wild banana plants which do reproduce sexually. If you don't mind gigantic seeds in them.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 06:16 AM)

This makes them highly susceptible to disease due to the stagnant genetic pool and inability to adapt.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 06:15 AM)

The domesticated kind reproduced asexually, meaning that the ones present today have the genetics of the same banana plants circa whenever bananas were domesticated

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 January 2019 - 04:53 AM)

Why would they be?

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2019 - 04:07 AM)

Shouldn't banana's be extinct now?

@  MEDdMI : (22 January 2019 - 11:38 PM)

:p You leave my male harem alone.

@  unluckiness : (22 January 2019 - 11:27 PM)

Yeah, but unfortunately, it was Fire Emblem Fates.

@  MEDdMI : (22 January 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Fire Emblem Fates didn't force the gay pairings to have kids, not even for adoption. Granted, there were only 2 canon gay/bi options amoungst a sea of hetero, but still.

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2019 - 10:27 PM)

It pissed off more people than usual since when the game was getting hyped much was made that you could have your character be gay as the first of May, and also the fact that the achievement for that event in the DLC was called "Growing Up"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 10:19 PM)

Never played the game, but that works as well! Textbook mindless natalism.

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2019 - 10:15 PM)

Huh, I figured you were talking about that Assassins Creed Oddessy DLC that forces your character to have a kid regardless of your choices, previous behaviour, or current situation.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 09:16 PM)

Some context: I am bemoaning the fact that Modern Family is currently demonstrating why it should have already ended. Because not only it is making its annoying characters even worse, but Haley's storyline is taking her in a direction I hate.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 09:08 PM)

So when a lazy cop-out in the story happens, I'm going to object to the shoehorning.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 09:05 PM)

I think you misunderstand me. History is rife with instances wherein having children turned out not to be the right decision, and people with normal intelligence saw it coming. So people like myself find it infurating when television writers broadly pretend this doesn't happen.

@  Shrug : (22 January 2019 - 09:02 PM)

So it's not weird that it shows up in a lot of fiction. Since it shows up in a lot of nonfiction.

@  Shrug : (22 January 2019 - 09:01 PM)

But you know, like... the majority of people do it.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 08:49 PM)

And no characters call out this course of action for the stupidity it is. Believe it or not, not everyone is cut out to have kids, and having children is not an extraordinary life accomplishment.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 08:48 PM)

Yup. Like writers knocking up a (usually female) character for no good reason, often when said character has not previously expressed the desire for children, or children would heavily set back their life plans, or the other biological parent is not a good relationship partner.

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2019 - 07:29 PM)

I mean, there's more to it, and varying levels of related concepts and blah blah blah, but I'm not gonna go further in the shoutbox.

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2019 - 07:27 PM)

It's the "everyone's gotta make babies" school of thought. It varies but in media it manifests as "all characters end up married with kids or dead". For contrast an anti-natalist concept would be China's One Child policy.

@  Locoman : (22 January 2019 - 06:28 PM)

.... pro-natalist?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 06:10 PM)

Pro-natalist clichés in fiction are overrated. But no Hollywood writer can come up with new ideas. Argh.

@  unluckiness : (22 January 2019 - 10:05 AM)

How does the giant gimmicky Bumblebee toy have such an incredible leg transformation compared to the MPM

@  lastmaximal : (22 January 2019 - 09:27 AM)

I mean it's Vigo. We are like the buzzing of flies to him.

@  unluckiness : (22 January 2019 - 05:51 AM)

Perfectly. His talent is only surpassed by Tommy Wiseau

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2019 - 04:57 AM)

How well he can play them is another story.

@  unluckiness : (22 January 2019 - 04:34 AM)

Blasphemy. Nicolas Cage can play anybody.

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2019 - 03:34 AM)

I'm just glad we're in a timeline where Nicolas Cage was too busy to play Aragorn in Lord of the Rings. As much as I may like Cage, there was no way he could have done that and Viggo was infintely better for the part.

@  unluckiness : (22 January 2019 - 02:30 AM)

I want to see the timeline where Nicolas Cage was cast as Iron Man


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Posted 10 November 2011 - 06:17 PM

Looks like the Lego Thread got eaten in the recent issues.

Character Builders, the ones behind the Doctor Who minifigs, have gotten into the blindbag business. $1.99 each, found at Target in their collectible cards wall by the registers. First wave has two astronauts, a race car driver, construction worker, two soldiers, one special ops soldier, two ninjas, two knights, and a zombie with exposed brain.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 06:32 PM

Love the subtitle. icon-hotrod.gif

Gonna have to check these out... any pics out there? My Google-fu is weak tonight.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 06:58 PM

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 12:31 AM

Thanks!

Hmm, I think the CB style is just a little too... cartoony for me to really get into. They just feel overly rounded. Might pick a few up and see if they grow on me though.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 02:04 AM

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 02:36 AM

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 07:40 AM

LEGO Speech Bubbles!



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Posted 12 November 2011 - 08:42 AM

QUOTE(Redjack Ryan @ Nov 12 2011, 07:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LEGO Speech Bubbles!



Saw those in the store about a month ago. Would have found it cooler if it didn't look like their speech bubbles were trying to strangle them.


-ZacWilliam, also, they're something that would be cooler as a free pack-in but isn't really worth paying for IMO...
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Posted 12 November 2011 - 08:45 AM

What I want, after playing the free level with my son is some actual Lego Universe sets.

-ZacWilliam, even just a figure or two in a blind pack set...


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Posted 12 November 2011 - 11:56 AM

Saw the new DINO theme sets and the new green stripe NINJAGO sets at TRU this AM.

All LEGO (except SW and MINDSTORMS) are BOGO 1/2 off today.

There looked to be 5-6 different DINO sets and I picked up the cheapest one.


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Posted 12 November 2011 - 12:57 PM

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 02:45 PM

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 10:30 PM

Yeah, TRU.com has the new Ninjago sets (minus that sweet boat), and the new City sets - along with free shipping, no minimum purchase. I took advantage of it to finally get that Alien Conquest HQ and the new Forest Police Station.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 08:33 AM

http://www.bleedingc...arts-next-week/

Whoever said that you can?t base your movie on millions of lumps of knobbly plastic?

Warner Bros has greenlit a live-action/animation hybrid based on the world of Lego, which will apparently feature flesh-and-blood stars in an 80% Lego world. Australian animation company Animal House (best known so far for their work on Happy Feet) have been chosen to create the animation, winning the film incentives from the Australian governenment and the state of New South Wales.

Variety reports that more details will be revealed when the movie starts production next month.

The movie is set for release in 2014, but it may be delayed until 2016 if someone trips over on set.


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Posted 14 November 2011 - 12:33 AM

Picked up two of the Character Building blindpacks today. Got the Black Ops guy and the Zombie by feeling them out. They're the only two I wanted, so I'm not likely to go back for more. Cute, but not something I need the whole set of.

I was wondering if there were any codes out there, but Google still yields virtually nothing about them. Additionally, I'm not seeing any sort of potential code--there's a 13-digit number stamped at the bottom, but it's the same on both. The packs seem exactly the same.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 06:11 AM

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I was wondering if there were any codes out there, but Google still yields virtually nothing about them. Additionally, I'm not seeing any sort of potential code--there's a 13-digit number stamped at the bottom, but it's the same on both. The packs seem exactly the same.

If they're the same as the Doctor Who minifigs then I don't think they'll have any codes on them. It's just a case of feeling the bags, which has left me with 4 spare Eleventh Doctors and a couple of Amy's in my search for Rory and River. I eventually found Rory (annoyingly, the same day I bought one off ebay) but River, who is packed 1 per case, still eludes me.

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Wow, check out some of the new snake-men: on Brickipedia. Some have two heads! icon-hotrod.gif And man, they couldn't even be more inspired by Yuan-Ti. The higher ranking they are, the less humanoid they look - the generals have both snake heads and snake-tails for lower bodies, just like the D&D monster's 'abominations'.

QUOTE(Betty Nor @ Nov 13 2011, 04:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, TRU.com has the new Ninjago sets (minus that sweet boat), and the new City sets - along with free shipping, no minimum purchase. I took advantage of it to finally get that Alien Conquest HQ and the new Forest Police Station.


Yay! Hope they arrive in Europe soon, too. Can't wait to do some Fang Shuei rearrangement in my flat. icon-hotrod.gif

How much do the single-carded Ninjago sets cost in the USA, btw? Here, they are quite pricey (about 13$).

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 07:27 AM


Saw some of the new sets at TRU. I really like that snake shooting shake copter. Just a cool design. The black car was a little generic batmobiley for me but the minifigures we're cool I'll have to get at least one Snake Man at some point.

Those were the only two Ninjago on hand but they had the Big TRex base, med. Pterosaur, and small raptor sets for DINO. I want to like these more because I love LEGO and love Dinosaurs, but they havn't wowed me yet. "Dinohunters" has been done so much since JP in media and toys that it feels a bit Generic. My wife has decided that they're actually unlicensed Terra Nova Legos. icon-arcee.gif I'm hoping the triceratops set excites me more when I see it.


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Posted 15 November 2011 - 09:22 AM

I fail at Doctor Who blind bags. I went through all the ones at the local Hastings (they now have the bags for $4 each) and was sure I'd gotten some Daleks. Instead, I got the Doctor, a Silent, and THREE Amy Ponds (all the common version). Since I already had a Doctor and an Amy from an Amazon purchase, not exactly the result I was hoping for.

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 10:09 AM

I bought 7 of the Character Builders from Target. Just randomly grabbed them. Five are for my sister for Christmas and I opened two for myself. I got two of the white astronaut. I'll be keeping the visor down and using it as a placeholder River Song for now, of course!

And Dave, once you find a Dalek, you know you've found a Dalek. There is no mistaking it. It's just ridiculously beefy in that baggie.



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