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@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 July 2019 - 01:17 PM)

It seems like, with these kind of things, anything not TF-specific is either in an existing thread or just not discussed since they're not part of something deemed important enough to get its own thread already.

@  Benbot : (19 July 2019 - 12:45 PM)

Yeah, but it's for Transformers specifically

@  Gryllid : (19 July 2019 - 12:39 PM)

There is. It's called "SDCC 2019 thread"

@  Benbot : (19 July 2019 - 12:24 PM)

no general SDCC thread?

@  Benbot : (19 July 2019 - 12:08 PM)

I never even bothered to see it.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 July 2019 - 10:30 AM)

O never hated it, the whole thing was an Indiana Jones movie. I didn't care for the CGI, but that's just nature of the beast.

@  Paladin : (19 July 2019 - 07:58 AM)

sidebar- has enough time passed that we can stop irrationally hating "Crystal Skull" yet?

@  Telly : (18 July 2019 - 09:18 PM)

after 38 years and i dont know how many viewings, today is the first time i noticed indiana jones doesnt use a revolver in the bar fight in raiders...

@  Kalidor : (18 July 2019 - 05:33 PM)

@Sabrblade Depends on when you're here. I used to have the backups happen once daily, now I have them happen once per hour so you might often see a hesitation at the top of every hour for 30-45 seconds.

@  Locoman : (18 July 2019 - 05:11 PM)

isn't that just Modern Family

@  Foffy : (18 July 2019 - 04:45 PM)

that's right. my gym teacher is a clown. new series coming to disney channel next fall

@  Foffy : (18 July 2019 - 04:44 PM)

all these clowns are making me run really fast.

@  Sabrblade : (18 July 2019 - 12:10 PM)

All this awesome SDCC news is really making these boards run slowly.

@  Bass X0 : (18 July 2019 - 07:54 AM)

Racism must be stopped. No matter the cost.

@  MEDdMI : (18 July 2019 - 07:49 AM)

Tine to stop buttering it up.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 July 2019 - 09:43 PM)

Well shucks.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 July 2019 - 08:14 PM)

The joke is a husk of its former self.

@  Paladin : (17 July 2019 - 01:15 PM)

Pop.

@  Shrug : (17 July 2019 - 10:15 AM)

Something something... corn bread?

@  MEDdMI : (17 July 2019 - 07:21 AM)

Ok, ok. Enough of the puns and let's all thank Kal for the amaizeing job he did.

@  Paladin : (17 July 2019 - 06:24 AM)

by now I think this jokes' been creamed.

@  Nevermore : (17 July 2019 - 03:31 AM)

The kernel.

@  Nevermore : (17 July 2019 - 03:31 AM)

Who gives the orders in cybernetic warfare?

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:59 PM)

Zea mays

@  Xellos : (16 July 2019 - 09:53 PM)

Isn't that a kernel of truth.

@  Paladin : (16 July 2019 - 08:43 PM)

huh. suddenly the Squawk is popping.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 07:47 PM)

Not placing much stalk in this conversation.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 06:22 PM)

That's so corny.

@  Shrug : (16 July 2019 - 06:07 PM)

It's absurd how happy I am that a post of mine made the front page of Reddit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 05:46 PM)

Aww, shucks.

@  TriBlurr : (16 July 2019 - 05:45 PM)

Not till I taste the corn

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 05:43 PM)

You guys aren't being very nice. You're supposed to tell me I did "good, really good!"

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 05:40 PM)

Just don't go beyond the rows.

@  Patch : (16 July 2019 - 05:39 PM)

Left over from the failed Beast Machines sequel, Beast Farmers

@  Patch : (16 July 2019 - 05:39 PM)

It's techno-organic corn

@  TriBlurr : (16 July 2019 - 05:26 PM)

We have a cornfield? Can I get a few ears?

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:56 PM)

And lastly, if it becomes too much hassle to deal with - it might just get sent into the cornfield and replaced with a Discord box anyway. So cool it.

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:55 PM)

Second thing is we do actually have the ability to ban users specifically from using Shoutbox if it's being abused like that

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:55 PM)

Hey all - just a reminder and heads up. The Shoutbox has been kept here as a courtesy because it's what you folks like in lieu of Discord - but a few things to remember is that P&R should stay in P&R and isn't really something that needs to be dragged out here in the most public of spaces.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 11:04 AM)

Done.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 July 2019 - 10:25 AM)

You can make a new one. I doubt anybody would stop you.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 10:16 AM)

There was a thread but it appears to have disappeared. Might have been lost in one of the older forum sweeps.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 July 2019 - 09:58 AM)

Yeah this is pretty much circumventing the fact that we have different rules for political talk.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2019 - 09:55 AM)

Okay, so, basically, can we not do politics in here anymore? I mean, considering how often @Nevermore, you talk about your work conditions, don't you think it's time for a dedicated thread in P&R?

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:39 AM)

Scratch that; that's insulting to honest salads. Whatever that was was the text equivalent of hamburger.

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:38 AM)

Would you like some dressing to go with your word salad?

@  Paladin : (16 July 2019 - 09:34 AM)

yes; it now goes "shit piss hug *BLEEP* ^$@^ motherhuger **** turd fart encyclopedia & Socialism."

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:24 AM)

This is an American site, but isn't that unnecessarily severe language? IIRC it's one of the top four offensive pejoratives to English people

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 July 2019 - 08:52 AM)

It's amusing how so many (U.S.) wankers in this world love to whine "capitalism good socialism bad!" in the abstract while simultaneously pretending that megacorporations dominating de facto monopolies is anathema to the core capitalistic principle of competition benefits everyone.

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 05:17 AM)

I know Shockwave's super mode is pretty lame and Magnus is kinda greebly but it's not that bad.


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The Kaiju Thread - From Godzilla to the Pacific Rim

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#1821 HellCat

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Posted 09 June 2019 - 02:43 PM

Just watched the 2014 movie...oh my.

 

I think I line up with most other people.

 

Cranston is criminally underused. I actually cried at the corridor scene, despite having only known the characters of him and his wife for a few minutes...and then we spend the movie with generic Hollywood army vet, his nurse wife and their kid.

 

I get that the movie wants to build tension for the kaiju but the third act is so dark you can't see anything. I'm pretty sure they bumped into Hulk and the Absorbing Man it was that bad. "What was that? SHIT! Did you see that?!"  NO! NO ONE SAW ANYTHING! FIX THE LIGHTING IN YOUR DAMN MOVIE!

 

It starts off so well and then becomes almost a better retread of the 1998 movie. I'm fine with showing the human perspective but all this is very cliche stuff and the characters are so dumb. "Is the bridge secure?" *obvious screaming and rapid gunfire* "I repeat, is the bridge secure?"

 

I was kinda impressed Godzilla gets credited as a hero at the end. I mean you'd expect that humanity would be terrified of him given in the last few days they've just become aware of giant monsters that can ravage cities underfoot but it's cool, big the big guy up.



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Posted 10 June 2019 - 12:24 AM

I don't line up with most other people and spent a lot of time defending 2014, which isn't really relevant here but, just for the record I guess. Diff'rent strokes.

However! I enjoyed the movie in cinemas and have watched it several times since then, and I've never noticed a problem with it being too dark to read easily. Which isn't a very helpful or productive observation, but I'm just not sure it's an innate quality of the film?

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 07:30 PM

When we rented Godzilla and watched it on the old (non-hd) television it was so dark that you could see nothing at all.  Watching it on the hd tv is much better.


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Posted 14 June 2019 - 06:41 AM

Btw, all the Titans are good for the environment? What about the Skullcrushers or whatever their names were?


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Posted 14 June 2019 - 04:16 PM

Well the Skullcrawlers were good for their environment.  Even if that had been reduced to....Kong in the end.  Ahh well.

 

As for this movie, I would've loved to have seen San Francisco and Las Vegas post-Godzilla more in order to back up the claim that the radiation leaking off of Godzilla and the MUTOs was good at bringing back plant life.  Otherwise, I think Emma and Jonah were off their rocker thinking that the Titans were good for humanity.  Did love how they kept Ghidorah's off planet origins and basically made Larry, Curley and Moe just as brutal as they should be.  

 

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:16 PM

Well the Skullcrawlers were good for their environment.  Even if that had been reduced to....Kong in the end.  Ahh well.

 

As for this movie, I would've loved to have seen San Francisco and Las Vegas post-Godzilla more in order to back up the claim that the radiation leaking off of Godzilla and the MUTOs was good at bringing back plant life.  Otherwise, I think Emma and Jonah were off their rocker thinking that the Titans were good for humanity.  Did love how they kept Ghidorah's off planet origins and basically made Larry, Curley and Moe just as brutal as they should be.  

 

IIRC, they spent of good portion of the credit slideshow doing just that.


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Posted 14 June 2019 - 11:20 PM

I just saw Godzilla: King of the Monsters a second time!

And I just realized I never left a proper review.

Lets put it this way: I initially said it was the best 60s Godzilla Movie ever made. I think that holds completely true.

This took a pounding by the critics, but as often is the case, this isnt a film made for critics. The movie has 100% Godzilla Movie logic. There are million year old undersea civilizations, Godzilla gets an anime power up by another monster dying, King Ghidorah has magic regeneration powers, and the Kaiju all follow the orders of an Alpha.

Does that make sense? No. Does it matter? No. Is it bad ass? YES.

This movie delivers monster sized action in spades, both from a human-on-the-ground point of view and from the epic scale of giant ancient gods duking it out. Kaiju literally change the weather as they make their way across the world, and they are bigger than life.

Further, all the main monsters have shown and distinct personalities - even each of King Ghidorahs heads has its own thing going. Rodan is a rambunctious coward, Mothra is protective and kind (even her rampage doesnt hurt anyone), and Godzilla is King. I couldnt ask for more.

More than anything, this film was made by a true Godzilla fan. From the original cries and themes of the monsters to dozens of clever easter eggs, this film is a true joy for a Godzilla Fan like me to experience.

Further, unlike every other kaiju film, the set pieces come fast and furious - the only slow point is the exploration of the underwater temple. This movie is all the epic and scale of a giant monster bash Ive ever wanted, and is definitely in my top 5 Kaiju films.

I cannot wait for Godzilla vs Kong.

Well the Skullcrawlers were good for their environment.  Even if that had been reduced to....Kong in the end.  Ahh well.
 
As for this movie, I would've loved to have seen San Francisco and Las Vegas post-Godzilla more in order to back up the claim that the radiation leaking off of Godzilla and the MUTOs was good at bringing back plant life.  Otherwise, I think Emma and Jonah were off their rocker thinking that the Titans were good for humanity.  Did love how they kept Ghidorah's off planet origins and basically made Larry, Curley and Moe just as brutal as they should be.  
 
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Posted 15 June 2019 - 05:12 AM

Finally saw King of the Monsters.

 

To address the jump scare issue- yes, there is what I would classify as one unarguable jump scare, even if they telegraph it a bit. But I'd also say there were a few mild ones elsewhere. This comes from a horror director and it's clear he's mildly flexing a decent horror director's ability to poke just where the audience think they're safe. To give an early example, all that tension with Mothra's debut only to throw in an unrelated explosion when it all seems resolved.

 

A lot of reviews saying this is nothing like the 2014 movie and amounts to a kid smashing action figures together...really don't agree. I'd actually say this is very similar to the 2014 movie in tone and use of the military and the fights are nowhere near the overlap that reviews, even positive ones, are making out.

 

I was kind glad to see them address the weird ending of the 2014 movie. Nice to see Godzilla treated as a hero in a meta sense but kaiju battles level cities. The locales from the 2014 movie are shown here to be abandoned. It makes no sense that the public at large would adore Godzilla when as this movie demonstrates a kaiju can at any time basically wipe a city off the map within an hour or so. People would rightfully fear that. I'm reminded of a line from SSSS Gridman- "I'm a human. Those things you kaiju trample underfoot."

 

This extends into the silly reasoning for why events happen. The mother and daughter, having lost their son/brother to the 2014 attack, decide it'd be best to awaken all the kaiju and let them roam....I think you could argue that plot is more in the Toho spirit but a simple revenge plot would have made more sense logically I think.

 

I did like they gave the kaiju personality but they never really get long to show it. Like Ghidorah's heads having different personalities is showcased in his debut but beyond that I don't recall it. Likewise, lot of reviews bigged up Rodan as having this bold personality...and all we really get is him switching sides when Ghidorah beats him and switching back once he's dead.

 

It was really nice to hear some of the classic Toho pieces in the soundtrack once the movie was headed for the climax. Really sells that this isn't some cheap cash in like the 1998 movie.



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Posted 15 June 2019 - 08:18 AM

Saw it last night. Ladies and Gentlemen, we finally have a legitimate Hollywood Godzilla movie! While the 2014 was a good attempt, it just missed the mark in some places (not enough actual Godzilla for one). This time we got tons of kaiju, classic musical themes, corny plots involving secret civilizations and aliens, and then to hammer it in that this is not Toho, a cover of Blue Öyster Cults Godzilla over the end credits!

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Posted 15 June 2019 - 03:32 PM

While I enjoyed it overall and thought it was better than the 2014 movie, it was still 80% humans and still had the tendency to tease us with a kaiju battle only to interrupt it to see what the human cast are up to.


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Posted 15 June 2019 - 05:24 PM

I'm glad you were able to watch it Hellcat.

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Posted 15 June 2019 - 09:48 PM

Quick Review: Neca King of the Monsters Godzilla and Mothra.

Godzilla is a remold of the 2014 release, and is pretty much the same except for the spikes and tail - and a vastly superior paint job. He looks great (so long as you get one without derpy eyes).

Mothra is an entirely new mold and she is fantastic. She comes with a stand thats molded after her egg from the film, and a large support and cradle that holds onto her very well. My only complaint is that her wings cannot rotate - only move up and down. Love it though!

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Posted 30 June 2019 - 10:13 AM

Watched Skull Island....eh.

 

I wouldn't call it a terrible movie but you don't need to see this along with the other 2 at all really. The only real continuity is the end credits scene which is basically just a teaser for King of the Monsters anyway.

 

I appreciate that Kong has been done by Hollywood a lot but this one feels out of tone with the other 2 movies and the character interactions feel rushed. The movie tries to force in too much of the monsters to really sell any of the human relationships and a lot of the monster stuff is pointless. The scientist getting picked up and torn apart is as dumb and cruel as the similar sequence in Jurassic World. The 2 Godzilla movies try to push kaiju/titans/monsters as not simply being marauding beasts and then this one just goes for creature feature with tons of violence, death and cheap jump scares that don't really work anyway.

 

With the Godzilla movies I was cheering at various moments. This? Nothing.



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Posted 30 June 2019 - 11:07 AM

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Posted 05 July 2019 - 01:56 PM

Pacific Rim animated series is apparently happening in 2020.

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Posted 05 July 2019 - 04:43 PM

I'm not too happy with who they're getting to animate this thing as Transformer Prime's world felt a little bit too deserts and canyons for my tastes.

 

Ironbite-we'll see what happens in 2020.


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Posted 05 July 2019 - 05:24 PM

I think it's less the studio and more the budget.  If Netflix gives them enough money for background characters (or there's a new way to do it cheaply), then there won't be as much of an empty world effect.

 

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Posted 05 July 2019 - 05:37 PM

I think it's less the studio and more the budget.

 

I mean, that's certainly what I assumed.

 

I never got the impression that the animators of Prime were like, "Should we put some more background people and buildings in this scene?" "What? No, yuck."


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Posted 05 July 2019 - 06:40 PM

Can they Unfridge Mako for this?

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