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@  Sean Whitmore : (15 January 2019 - 08:47 PM)

The fact that Adventure Time was on the air for 8 years and at no point did Nintendo hand the creators a large sack of money and say, "Please make a Mario thing for us" will forever anger me.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 07:03 PM)

There was so much awesome put into design and conception of the super mario bros. movie, and it didn't even need the branding: but it wouldn't have made it to the screen without the branding.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:56 PM)

Many aspects of it have stuck in my memory, though. The boots, the devolution ray, the aesthetic of the dinosaur city

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

I had no idea there was another Mario Bros. movie coming out, though. Doubt it'll top the first one, it was just so bizarre

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

They already act a bit like minions; they just aren't stupid

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 05:35 PM)

The trouble is: I honestly can't decide if making them minions would be better or worse than the continuously shrill voices they've used for the last 20 years.

@  Paladin : (15 January 2019 - 05:27 PM)

hope everyone's ready for Toads to look, act & sound like the Minions forever...

@  Lancer : (15 January 2019 - 04:54 PM)

I mean, considering Illumination is making the new Mario movie, Super Mario Bros. 1993 won't be the worst Mario movie anymore

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 04:36 PM)

"Sir, your pizza's here." "Not now!"

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 04:28 PM)

Actually, yeah. I think I need to watch it again. Great movie.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 03:44 PM)

It's a fun movie with amazing sets. As long as you don't try to connect it to anything else Mario, it's fine.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 03:38 PM)

Damn, I haven't thought about the Super Mario Bros. feature film in forever. Need to watch it again, soon; I can only imagine it gets better with time.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Re:Zero is a fantastic series.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 03:10 PM)

Yeah it's not a bad concept, it's just that lately the term is associated with "I, a Loser Everyman, Woke Up In a Generic Fantasy Setting Where I'm Super Special So Now Girls Orbit Me"

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 12:59 PM)

So too is the old Super Mario Bros movie

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 12:28 PM)

I went and looked up the term "isekai"... that's not actually as bad as I thought it was going to be.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 12:19 PM)

I'm not sure, but the cartoon segments of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show are.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Wait. A. Minute. Is Blaster Master an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (15 January 2019 - 08:49 AM)

*Dragon Slave*

@  Xellos : (15 January 2019 - 06:22 AM)

I used to use a pic like that as my avatar for years, but that... is a secret.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 02:07 AM)

Is Flatland an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (14 January 2019 - 11:16 PM)

@Xellos Every time I see you post, I picture Xellos' infuriating smug grin and finger waggling with the "sore wa hi*mi*tsu*desu <3"

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 09:50 PM)

The Last Starfighter is also one of those

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

Astronaut gets shot through a wornhole and ends up on a living starship full of escaped alien prisoners.

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

I realized a few months ago that Farscape is a sci-fi-based Isekai.

@  Sabrblade : (14 January 2019 - 09:03 PM)

The Thor movies and Enchanted, as well.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 January 2019 - 08:45 PM)

@xellos We get to many of those in Hollywood movies.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 08:13 PM)

Re:Creators!

@  Xellos : (14 January 2019 - 07:47 PM)

There is also Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero, where people regularly get summoned to a fantasy world, then eventually sent back with their accumulated powers (and the main character smuggles the demon lord's daugher by his request, which is a no-no)

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 07:23 PM)

We need more inverse isekais, like The Devil is a Part-Timer

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 04:11 PM)

I feel like Tron is pushing it but I can't actually come up with an argument to that effect

@  Pennpenn : (14 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

To Arazyr- I don't see why it wouldn't be.

@  Xellos : (14 January 2019 - 02:11 PM)

Just like how TRON and Captain N are early examples of "getting transported into a video game"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (14 January 2019 - 02:07 PM)

That would explain why it's so common for isekai settings to be blatantly RPG-inspired.

@  Arazyr : (14 January 2019 - 01:42 PM)

Would the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon count as isekai? 8^)

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 12:06 PM)

I am in the exceedingly unpleasant position of knowing what you're talking about

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 12:05 PM)

So I'll just say I can consume the series without endorsing the real-life lie that false rape accusations are common and successful.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 12:04 PM)

I would go on to talk about that, but alas, that would spoil significant future story details about the accuser.

@  B-Fox : (14 January 2019 - 12:03 PM)

Shield Hero dared to have a male character falsely accused of rape, right?

@  B-Fox : (14 January 2019 - 12:02 PM)

At least now people will stop shitting on slice-of-life shows....

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 12:01 PM)

listen just because it has shield in its name does not mean you need to ally with it

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 12:01 PM)

oh good lord

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 12:00 PM)

In fact, the Shield Hero series does not portray slavery as a good thing nor keep the initial slave characters down for the count.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 12:00 PM)

If you're referring to The Rising of the Shield Hero, the backlash from some Western fans is misaimed, IMO.

@  Pennpenn : (14 January 2019 - 11:59 AM)

I wish I was more surprised that "slavery apologetics" is a thing. Still disgusted.

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 11:53 AM)

But surely we all know the best isekai is Captain N.

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 11:49 AM)

This morning I saw one of my friends express disbelief at having an opportunity to say "yet another slavery apologist isekai"

@  Lancer : (14 January 2019 - 11:21 AM)

Although recently they explicably acquire a harem by purchasing them as slaves, which makes it that much worse

@  Lancer : (14 January 2019 - 11:21 AM)

I think what people hate is the modern trend of isekai taking place in generic-ass fantasy settings with bland, oft-overpowered male protagonists that inexplicably acquire a harem.

@  Pennpenn : (14 January 2019 - 11:07 AM)

Does Kingdom Hearts count? On the one hand it's a serial world hopping adventure, on the other hand all the worlds are contained within the same overworld that the characters have always been in, just unaware of.


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#1 Master Fwiffo

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 11:51 PM



My first batch of Godzilla movies were taped from this marathon. Good memories.

Haha, they labeled Gabara as Baragon.



Anyway, the real reason for recreating this thread actually picks up off non-Godzilla stuff. As I mentioned in the last thread, I picked up the original Ultraman series solely because I knew they reused the Godzilla suits in a few episodes. Needless to say, I had a blast.

I've now acquired the complete Ultra Q (the series that preceeded Ultraman but was more Kaiju and less Sentai focused) and unfortunately, the copies I got are raw in Japanese. Anybody know where I might be able to find a subtitle copy of the series?

I'd also like to track down Ultraseven too. >>

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 03:03 AM

I'm not sure the original Ultra Q has ever been fully subtitled. I think someone made some subbed VHS or DVDs a few years back distributed during a convention, but not the whole series, and not uploaded online.

Ultraseven was apparently subbed by a group called Hi no Tori.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 03:15 AM

look on the first post in the toku thread for all the subbed Ultra stuff

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 07:28 AM

Has anyone gotten a copy of the new Destroy All Monsters DVD/BD? I'd like to hear some thoughts on it overall.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 05:49 PM

QUOTE(Starsteam @ Nov 8 2011, 08:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has anyone gotten a copy of the new Destroy All Monsters DVD/BD? I'd like to hear some thoughts on it overall.

A gazillion times better than the previous ADV Films release. I've only watched the default dub on the bluray so far though. Colors don't seem as vibrant as they should be in some scenes, but that's the only nitpick I can find so far, and its probably something you can fix by tweaking your tv color settings anyway. I hadn't watched this in a long while because the ADV flaws look even worse on a HDTV, so I had forgotten that there are actually more kaiju scenes than I remembered. Definitely recommended based on the default dub and just the movie alone. I'm looking forward to sampling the other audio tracks, commentary, and extras.



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Posted 11 November 2011 - 01:23 PM

QUOTE(Starsteam @ Nov 8 2011, 05:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has anyone gotten a copy of the new Destroy All Monsters DVD/BD? I'd like to hear some thoughts on it overall.


HMV stores in Canada aren't carrying either of the new Destroy All Monsters or Godzilla Vs Megalon DVD/BRDs. icon-megs.gif But we did get the latest Gamera BRD releases.

In other news, CBR has some preview pages from Godzilla Legends #1: Anguirus.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 06:49 PM

These are rather nice, though maybe too expensive for most people's tastes.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 06:51 PM

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I get a "Monsterland Godzilla from GvGigan" vibe from that super deformed G.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 07:00 PM

Same here, and I love Mechagodzilla's Jet Jaguar styled grin.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 08:47 PM

Just finished watching the Destroy All Monsters blu-ray with the commentary. The commentary is very informative without any pauses. I never noticed that the original Ultraman, Hayata, was one of the brainwashed scientists in the background on Monster Island!

On my second watch I was able to soak in the extra detail even more. Details in the miniatures, suits, matte paintings and the like. Any tiny scene with Varan, Baragon, Manda where they weren't much more than background blurr I can at least see some detail now. I understand that the one group scene with the three of them in the background on the right is actually a cardboard cutout painting.

The default English dub is not the original AIP version, which the commentary says is superior. I'm in the process of listening to the AIP now, and although it's not quite as clean as the default track, the dubbing is definitely much better and what's being spoken better matches what's going on. The first few minutes definitely have some warbling going on like there's a helicopter in the room. Fortunately Clubtokyo.org is saying that audio problem is confined to that first few minutes, and that if you watch it in English, you should watch the AIP dub. I'll post here if I notice the helicopter show up again, but so far so good.

And there's more! There's two Japanese audio tracks, one of which is in 5.1! So I'll be watching this yet again in such a short time! I can't recommend this blu-ray enough.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 08:55 PM

Man, I'm watching Gamera 3 for the first time in probably 10 years and I'd forgotten how intense the battle in Shibuya is. I can't remember another kaiju movie that has dealt with the "collateral" damage of a giant monster battle like Gamera 3. That's the one thing that's always bugged me about the Godzilla movies - with but a few exceptions, the places Godzilla and others destroy are treated as if they've been fully evacuated and civilian casualties are almost non-existent. In Gamera 3 the human toll is very real and they don't shy away from showing it either, and the casualties are as much from the actions of Gamera as the actions of Gyaos, effectively making the point that this Gamera doesn't so much care about humanity as he does about destroying his natural enemy. I've got to point out too that the special effects are probably the best I've ever seen in a kaiju movie which only adds to the intensity of the battles.
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Posted 11 November 2011 - 10:53 PM

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Man, I'm watching Gamera 3 for the first time in probably 10 years and I'd forgotten how intense the battle in Shibuya is. I can't remember another kaiju movie that has dealt with the "collateral" damage of a giant monster battle like Gamera 3. That's the one thing that's always bugged me about the Godzilla movies - with but a few exceptions, the places Godzilla and others destroy are treated as if they've been fully evacuated and civilian casualties are almost non-existent. In Gamera 3 the human toll is very real and they don't shy away from showing it either, and the casualties are as much from the actions of Gamera as the actions of Gyaos, effectively making the point that this Gamera doesn't so much care about humanity as he does about destroying his natural enemy. I've got to point out too that the special effects are probably the best I've ever seen in a kaiju movie which only adds to the intensity of the battles.


The Shibuya battle and the ariel fight in that movie are absolutely fantastic. It's too bad the final battle is just a rather dull shoving match.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 10:58 PM

QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Nov 11 2011, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Fullstrength Motleypuss @ Nov 11 2011, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Man, I'm watching Gamera 3 for the first time in probably 10 years and I'd forgotten how intense the battle in Shibuya is. I can't remember another kaiju movie that has dealt with the "collateral" damage of a giant monster battle like Gamera 3. That's the one thing that's always bugged me about the Godzilla movies - with but a few exceptions, the places Godzilla and others destroy are treated as if they've been fully evacuated and civilian casualties are almost non-existent. In Gamera 3 the human toll is very real and they don't shy away from showing it either, and the casualties are as much from the actions of Gamera as the actions of Gyaos, effectively making the point that this Gamera doesn't so much care about humanity as he does about destroying his natural enemy. I've got to point out too that the special effects are probably the best I've ever seen in a kaiju movie which only adds to the intensity of the battles.


The Shibuya battle and the ariel fight in that movie are absolutely fantastic. It's too bad the final battle is just a rather dull shoving match.


No kidding. I have a feeling they blew most of the budget on Shibuya and the CGI for Iris and it cost us a more impressive final battle.
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Posted 12 November 2011 - 11:26 PM

I finished watching the DAM blu-ray with the AIP dub, and the "helicopter" is confined to the first few minutes. The rest of the dub isn't as clean as the default english dub, there's some slight hiss and popping here and there, but it's definitely the better dub despite that. I understand now why the G fans who were aware of it were so adamant about it being included.

I sampled the Japanese 5.1 and it's ok considering it was never in 5.1 in the first place. Also watched the photo extras which was pretty cool. A nice slideshow of behind the scene stills and promotional material. I was suprised to see Varan and Baragon show up as often as I did in the pics. Is the "8mm" extra the source of the AIP dub? Not sure why it was included.

You know what would have made the final battle with Ghidorah better? If Ghidorah had managed to kill one(or more) of the lesser kaiju. The Varan and Baragon suits were barely holding together anyway, so death by electrical explosion would have been a cool way to finally retire them. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 11:41 PM

Finally got my copies of DAM DVD and CD, and the Gamera Bluray Trilogy. Now then, for the DAM DVD, which audio should I listen with? I'm planning on watching the original Japanese since that what the picture appears to be from. I don't normally watch more than one language unless the film has some difference in it (such as the classic media DVDs) but when it's the same picture with the different dubs (Shouts Gamera DVDs) then I just watch one.

After I get the Criterion Gojira bluray, I plan to re-buy DAM and Megalon on Bluray. I just wanted to finish my DVD collection first.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 09:15 AM

QUOTE(Alpha Omega Trion Supreme @ Nov 12 2011, 11:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what would have made the final battle with Ghidorah better? If Ghidorah had managed to kill one(or more) of the lesser kaiju. The Varan and Baragon suits were barely holding together anyway, so death by electrical explosion would have been a cool way to finally retire them. icon-hotrod.gif

Well, Baragon's suit was totally refurbished by the end of filming (as you can see in the final scene), so would have been a bit of a waste.

That said, one of the nice things about the Showa movies was the fact that they avoided killing off the monsters compared to the Gamera movies, or the Heisei and Millennium movies.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 10:34 AM

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You know what would have made the final battle with Ghidorah better? If Ghidorah had managed to kill one(or more) of the lesser kaiju. The Varan and Baragon suits were barely holding together anyway, so death by electrical explosion would have been a cool way to finally retire them. icon-hotrod.gif

Well, Baragon's suit was totally refurbished by the end of filming (as you can see in the final scene), so would have been a bit of a waste.

That said, one of the nice things about the Showa movies was the fact that they avoided killing off the monsters compared to the Gamera movies, or the Heisei and Millennium movies.


Or they killed them but brought them back anyway.

Baragon and Anguirus getting their necks snapped, but I think Gorosaurus got the worst in his first appearance (Jaw snapped off).

In the scheme of things, those were all rather minor injuries (well, minus the fact that Anguirus was set on fire, but hey, he then fell right into the water).

Hand-waved away easily enough if you just say that every kaiju has massive regenerative abilities.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 12:51 AM

I enjoy Terror of Mechagodzilla a lot more, but yeah, DAM works pretty well as a proper finale.

Though it often makes you wonder if Earth was relative peace from 1975 to 1999, or if there were all sorts of wacky adventures.

Shame Toho isn't likely to do some retro throwback series like that.

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 04:29 PM

Atragon Revoltech.

http://www.bigbadtoy...amp;mode=retail

I wonder if a Manda accessory might be included?

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 05:12 PM

Oh god suddenly I want a Final Wars one SO BAD.

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