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@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P


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#1 Luke

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 07:49 PM

Looks like the old thread was big and got purged, and Joe Kyde's eating plenty healthy these days anyway, so... Let's start off with some RID/G2 suggested by Windsweeper:

QUOTE(windsweeper @ Nov 7 2011, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
G2 Motormouth from Ironhide

G2 Doubleclutch from Mirage

RID REV and G2 Firecracker from Sideswipe

Can't say I'm up for Ironhide again.

I think Double Clutch could maybe turn into a Diaclone red Mirage if done right.
EDIT: Hrm... Googling that, maybe not. Lot more blue on DC than I remembered.

ALWAYS want more of the Sideswipe mold. I love it more than is probably healthy. icon-hotrod.gif

Edited by Lukeblast, 07 November 2011 - 07:56 PM.


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Posted 07 November 2011 - 08:05 PM

Huffer from Lazah Prime.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 08:11 PM

Obsidian from 2010 Tomahawk.
Strika from Generations Straxus.

I really want toys of these two from their G1 general days.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 10:43 PM

It would be cool to see Obsidian and Strika as G1 Autobot toys.



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Posted 07 November 2011 - 11:34 PM

I still want Ironfist from 25th Hound. I don't care if he don't have a huge gun thing.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 11:44 PM

QUOTE(Spectre @ Nov 7 2011, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Obsidian from 2010 Tomahawk.
Strika from Generations Straxus.

I really want toys of these two from their G1 general days.

This would be cool since they just really popped up out of nowhere during Beast Machines with back story as being great generals during the war. Actually IDW should do something with that icon-fire.gif

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 12:11 AM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Nov 7 2011, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still want Ironfist from 25th Hound. I don't care if he don't have a huge gun thing.


This.

And Stripes!

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 12:26 AM

I'm partial towards Blackcat.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 01:44 AM

Star Saber from Classics Jetfire/Universe Threadbolt. icon-fire.gif

Hey it could work. He's got a Prime-esque removable helmet-head and if you remove it, he becomes Saber. And if you fold out the wings and the cannons from his weapons pack, he can approximate the look of Victory Saber.

Just need to remold one of the missiles as a sword, of course.

Edited by c0ldfire, 08 November 2011 - 01:52 AM.


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Posted 08 November 2011 - 02:03 AM

I want Powerglide from seeker mold
Cosmos from Cyclonus

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 02:22 AM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Nov 8 2011, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm partial towards Blackcat.


He needs to come with Howlback, the original Ravage redeco!

Mind, Howlback and Blackcat are both blue Ravages, aren't they? Hmmm....

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 02:26 AM

Blackcat is green. Insanely enough.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 04:14 AM

I'd like a Howlback with a Detritus redeco. Since they're both eHobby figures and all.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 07:12 AM

I love the idea of Jetfire as Star Saber (prefereably with new helmet and armor pieces... and sword of course).

Hound as Ironfist woud be great too, with a new head. There are several Ravage repaints that are great characters, but honestly I think that the Hound-linked Ravage mold is unbearably awful. Unless it's remolded so the head doesn't look like @$$ I'd dump it in favor of a big brain-explodey gun.


What would I like to see otherwise?


Throttlebots from Classic Bumblebee (Either Legend or Deluxe, preferably with new heads).

Lightspeed from the Wheeljack/Tracks mold, again with new head.

DoTM HA Whirl as G1 Whirl with a new head (and maybe new c-clip weapons that look like his G1 stuff).

Ultra Seaspray as Waverider

Either Cyclonus or the Seeker mold as Metalhawk (I think it could work as either).

Breacher as AM Rollout (anyone suggest a good Glitch to package him with?)

And the Botcon ad inspired RtS Prime as Ironworks and Powertrain


-ZacWilliam, Sure there are other awesome ideas out there, but these are the first that jump to mind for me.

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 08 November 2011 - 07:16 AM.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 09:10 AM

Universe Cyclonus as Dogfight
RTS Prime as Overload
Universe Octane as Powertrain

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 09:20 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Nov 8 2011, 07:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Breacher as AM Rollout

God yes. That mold is practically SCREAMING for it. My only qualm is that I want him bigger than a Scout, but you can't have everything.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 09:41 AM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Nov 8 2011, 09:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
RTS Prime as Overload
Universe Octane as Powertrain


I'm ok with RtS for Overload (though I'd go with Legends Prime first for a correct truck cab.)

But NO ONE should have to suffer that Octane mold.


ZacWilliam, especially the potentially cool Powertrain and Ironworks. Ugh that's a terrible mold.

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 08 November 2011 - 09:42 AM.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 09:55 AM

QUOTE(Spectre @ Nov 8 2011, 01:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Obsidian from 2010 Tomahawk.
Strika from Generations Straxus.

I really want toys of these two from their G1 general days.


This is a pretty good idea.

Ohterwise the E-hobby repaints, or Tailgate.

A blue Bluestreak as Fusion.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 09:58 AM

Fusion needs to be a repaint of WFC Cybertronian Prime.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 09:59 AM

Laser Magnus from the RTS Optimus.
G1 toy colored Galvatron.
Diaclone Magnus/Powered Convoy from either Classics Optimus or RtS Optimus.
Treads from Warpath.
Purple Generic Seeker/Air Warrior from Classics Starscream.
Wave Rider from Voyager Seaspray.
Gutcruncher from Generations Warpath.
TCC Side Burn's colors on Masterpiece Rodimus mold (he'd have the yellow visor).
Either Jackpot or Kick-Off from the RtS Jazz mold.
Rotorstorm from Tomahawk.

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