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@  wonko the sane? : (23 January 2018 - 07:02 AM)

He's actually interfacing with the public and is generally charismatic. He's no more effective than harper, but at least he can work a room.

@  Locoman : (23 January 2018 - 12:39 AM)

-shrugs- He says the right things more often, at least.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2018 - 11:03 PM)

Well is Trudeau an improvement over Harper?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 10:54 PM)

Most of the country is sick of trudeau, they very well might get in anyway. Might as well vote for the shmuck who actually wants to do good, but will accidentally screw it up, over the shmucks who'll lie about it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:14 PM)

Voting NDP is how the Conservatives get in, though

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

because the road to hell is, after all, paved with good intentions.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

There isn't one of those in this lot. Vote for the one whom won't deliberately do damage... so NDP.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:09 PM)

I usually feel an obligation to vote in any election, but I honestly won't know who to vote for next time around. I don't like any of them, and I think the best we can hope for is someone who won't do any more damage

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Pretending to try to figure out how to undo the absolutely flawless system of wealth concentration they and their predecessors designed

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Well, they're all off to Davos now, supposedly to lament the horribly skewed wealth distribution that's gotten even worse since last year's meeting

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:03 PM)

Conversely, being impressed by politicians isn't something you should be happy about.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:02 PM)

The other side of the canadian coin right now is a harper clone. If trudeau runs again, the choice is NDP or liberal. It all depends on how the NDP plays out under the new guy, but so far I am unimpressed.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

I don't disagree. Trudeau is a clown and he's been a huge disappointment. I was naive enough to believe he'd actually stick to his word and do something to help the middle class. He's never getting my vote again

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

This little raptor is freaking BOSS! Also, I've been drinking, so kinda mellow.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

Been playing with slash for the last hour though, totally worth it.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

After duties and the exchange AND shipping. I'm not even going to bother appealing, it'll take ages and achieve nothing.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

I assuming it was toys, and those have a 0% duty rate even when the object isn't of North American manufacture. In that case, it just should've been taxes and the processing fee

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

We won't get it. Nothing the trudeau government has done has actually helped the end level canadian citizen, and with trump on the other side: it'll only get worse.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

Wonko, if you feel the customs weren't assessed properly you can always contact them to appeal. Generally, the fee should only be taxes (GST/QST in your case) + duties (if applicable, depending on the type of item where it was made) + Canada Post's processing fee. If the item was properly valued on the parcel, it usually shouldn't reach paid twice territory

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:49 PM)

One of the things I'm hoping comes out of these NAFTA talks (assuming they don't kill it) is Canada adopting an increased duty-free limit. $20 compared to the American's $800 is really ridiculous

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:47 PM)

Stuff sent via more expensive shipping methods, though, might attract their attention more often

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:46 PM)

Although it might depend what method it was sent via USPS. Pretty much the only things I receive from the US anymore in Canada are sent First Class Parcel (which is trackable), and I don't think Customs really scrutinizes those ones that much

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

In fact I almost never get charged. Only when the stated value on the package is in the extreme range, like $300 or more

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

Strange the duties were so high. I've been hit by UPS with their insane fees, but I've always had good experiences with USPS and Canada Post

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 05:36 PM)

USPS then canada post.

@  RichardT1977 : (22 January 2018 - 05:25 PM)

Very carefully, I hope

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 PM)

How was it delivered?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 02:24 PM)

the duties pushed the cost of it into "paid twice" range.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2018 - 02:06 PM)

Well, at least hospitalization won't send you into bankruptcy. There's always that.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (22 January 2018 - 01:52 PM)

o.O

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 01:40 PM)

And not happy anymore. 40 bucks on duties. Free trade my ass.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 11:26 AM)

Yay! I should get my package from BBTS today!

@  Arazyr : (22 January 2018 - 10:50 AM)

Okay, now I get the snake thing. Thanks for the Pokemon reference. It was a bit after my time... 8^)

@  CastletonSnob : (22 January 2018 - 08:05 AM)

This is a Transformers fansite. Do you like big bots and you cannot lie?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 AM)

no. was just making a silly/stupid joke

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2018 - 03:22 AM)

Onyx is a stone. Onix is a rock snake. Do you even Pokemon, bro?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 02:44 AM)

could be a rock made of snakes. we just dont know!

@  Foffy : (22 January 2018 - 02:15 AM)

He is a snake made of rock, though

@  Jetstream C-18 : (21 January 2018 - 08:56 PM)

No, Onyx is a snake.

@  Arazyr : (21 January 2018 - 01:12 PM)

Something I only just "got" last night: Of course IDW's GB Blackrock is associated with Onyx Prime. Onyx is a black rock.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 January 2018 - 07:37 AM)

Bet a lot of military people won't want to work this monday. ;(

@  Pennpenn : (21 January 2018 - 07:27 AM)

It seems sort of intuitive for a lot of people because it's the first day in the week that you're working.

@  Nevermore : (21 January 2018 - 04:54 AM)

Germany considers Monday the first day of the week.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2018 - 01:34 AM)

The judge obviously had a more material motive than the one he claimed, there need to be some serious investigation of that case.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 05:04 PM)

The reason is even worse. :(

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 04:34 PM)

That moron is a shame to his profession.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 09:34 AM)

I just think a Judge going on and Jury Tampering, trying to make the Jury think a sex taffiker is innocent is sickening. *won't say why he did that as that goes in P&R*

@  Sabrblade : (20 January 2018 - 09:21 AM)

Heh, the schedules for my work weeks begin with Saturday

@  wonko the sane? : (20 January 2018 - 07:01 AM)

Thing about the US is... you can say that any time you want as much as you want. You're still going to get shot, but it might not be because you said that though.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 January 2018 - 02:20 AM)

You just did.


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#1 Caldwin

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 05:24 PM

The other topic seems to have disappeared. icon-screamer.gif

Anyway, I just saw this weeks episode "Sight Beyond Sight."

The Good:

It seems to have remembered the over-arching quest of finding the stones.

All the Thundercats are still getting time in the spot light like last week.

Wiley Kit saves the day with her flute...who have thunk it.

Lion-O learn more powers of the Sword of Omens

The Bad:

"Whiskers" is back. I was hoping we'd gotten rid of it from last week.

The whole short memory of the elephants was an overly long joke. It got old really fast.


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Posted 05 November 2011 - 05:30 PM

The Thundercats want to know who you callin' a ho?

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 05:46 PM

I still find the Thunderkittens high on Candyfruit from last week's episode to be one of the funniest things ever.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 06:17 PM

Lion-O gets rid of those bugs, and he endangers the elephants by removing the only thing keeping away a destructive Rock Biter rip-off with a tree on its head.

I think Tygra would be better as Lord of the Thundercats if this keeps up.

As for Wiley Kit saving the day with her flute, I think she gave Link a run for his rupees.

Edited by spikeriley, 05 November 2011 - 06:19 PM.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 06:56 PM

This week's episode was pretty good. At first I was afraid it was gonna be another "Lion-O heads off somewhere & the other 'Cats get little screentime" story after reading the description but in the end I was surprised by the results. To my surprise, WilyKit got some major focus & saved the day which is cool since the Thunderkittens are cool. The elephants were a bit annoying with the "we're elephants and we don't remember stuff that well, get it" routine.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 09:23 PM

This show is so bi-polar. This episode was horrible. The elephants were so hugging obnoxious.

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 09:15 PM

I don't think that it's been horrible. Though I will admit I am kinda split on whether I like the past two episodes or not.

Like I listed as one of my pro's, I like how all the Thundercats have been featured. Pre-hiatus, it was beginning to be all about Lion-O. While I like Lion-O and all, I'm just glad the rest of the team has been getting a chance to shine...especially Cheetara and the kittens. That more than anything has had me cheering on the past two episodes.

One thing I will say though, the past two episodes have tended to go more to the silly side than the episodes before the hiatus. I don't think anyone is ever going to take Berbils seriously. No matter how much better they may be than the old versions, they're still berbils.

And don't even get me started on the elephants. The forgetfulness got old really quickly. And the whole pacifist aesop in an action oriented cartoon just grated on my nerves.?

But one last note, even the worst episodes so far is better than some of the cringe-inducing sillyness from the old series. Don't get me wrong. I'm a child of the 80's. I love the old series. If I didn't, I wouldn't be watching the new series. It had some very strong episodes that I'll always love.

But it also had some downright stupid things, not the least of which was constantly giving the Sword of Omens new powers, to the point of being an every episode deus ex machina. It was at the point were no matter what kind of insurmountable danger the cats were in, you knew all Lion-O had to do was call on the SoO and everything would be straightened out at the last second.

At it's best, the old series can easily go toe-to-toe with the best this new series has. But at its worst, the new series has yet to do anything as cringe-worthy as the worst of the old series.
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Posted 06 November 2011 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE(spikeriley @ Nov 5 2011, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lion-O gets rid of those bugs, and he endangers the elephants by removing the only thing keeping away a destructive Rock Biter rip-off with a tree on its head.

I think Tygra would be better as Lord of the Thundercats if this keeps up.

To be honest, The Thundercats as a whole don't seem too bright.
That whole racing thing at the beginning of the episode was a bit of a face-palm moment.


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Posted 07 November 2011 - 05:29 AM

I think the bloom's going off the rose a bit with ThunderCats following the super-excitement of its return and the great premiere. It's really struggling to balance characterization and stand-alone episodes with the overloaded and fast-moving arced plot, already feeling like it's blasted through a season's worth of mythology at the expense of letting any characters other than Lion-O truly having a single episode's plot to themselves. I respect it for doing it's own thing and not being a nostalgia-fuelled love-letter to the old show (coughMOTU2002cough), but taken on its own merits it has given me VERY little reason to care about any of the cast aside from knowing them from the 80s, even though they owe basically nothing to those versions of the characters.

Sure does look pretty, though.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 09:17 AM

Sight beyod sight started out great and turned into an average episode with the discovery of the temple. Music bit felt like watching a cartoon specifically aimed at preschoolers rather than a cartoon aimed at all ages.

I give it C-. Minus mainly because of that !@%#^ "Whiskers" line.

QUOTE(Caldwin @ Nov 7 2011, 03:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
At it's best, the old series can easily go toe-to-toe with the best this new series has. But at its worst, the new series has yet to do anything as cringe-worthy as the worst of the old series.

Oh, God, I hope they don't manage to outworse the circus bounty hunter crap. icon-wildride.gif

Edited by D.M, 07 November 2011 - 09:27 AM.


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Posted 07 November 2011 - 12:19 PM

Weird. I actually liked the elephants quite a bit. The younger one was voiced by the king lemur guy from Madagascar, right?

I remember mentioning after the last episode that I kinda wished they hadn't discarded the "Berbils serving Trolligs serving Giantorrs" balance thing from the original version, but I see they were just saving that concept for this one (albeit as "Elephants serving Wraiths serving Rock Giant").

Wily-Kit saving the day was a welcomed change of pace, but I think the problem is that the characters never seem to stop to acknowledge anything that happens to them. Wily-Kit got no praise for her quick thinking. And worst of all, at the beginning, no one was like "What the HELL, Panthro! WHY did you fire missiles at us!!??"

As mentioned, the story pacing is still rough as ever, but I suppose I'm growing accustomed to it. The only part of this episode I found irritating was when everyone starting breaking out instruments for their musical number. I understand that it was a crucial plot device foreshadowing the resolution, but it was goofy in a bad way and probably could've been shorter (or storyboarded differently so as not to look like the lead-in to a musical number in a Disney flick).

So far, I don't think there's been an all-out "horrible" episode of the series yet, but the show does have its problems that need to be worked out.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 01:45 PM

I still like the show lots.

Is it groundbreaking award winning writing? No. But though its had flaws and could use more character development depth still, it's been an enjoyable cartoon adventure.

And the art/design work is absolutely spectacular. I'd come back every episode just for the great design and the weird fantasy world.

-ZacWilliam, it's not like the original TCats was Beast Wars level with its character depth either. I'm happy to watch what we're getting and hope it deepens a bit more as we go.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 01:48 PM

It's better writing than Terra Nova...

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 03:26 PM

I still need to pick up some of the toys.

I'm also hoping Pumyra and Bengali join the cast. I can see Bengali bein' kinda like Forge, a guy who's the resident weaponsmith and being the other tech-head of the team with Panthro. Pumyra, well, she'd be the medic. Duh.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 01:36 AM

I would definitely call this the weakest episode so far. If Lion O had only stopped to think, he would have realized that killing the theiving insects will unleash a giant pile of rock biter! Just like how stopping the guy kidnapping Berbils unleashed some greater evil! Oh, wait. It didn't. Meh. Whiskers even. No real lesson learned this episode, and the the whole thing was kind of dissapointing. Elephant guys as stoner Indians wasn't my favorite tribe.



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Posted 10 November 2011 - 10:39 AM

QUOTE(Silent_Magnus @ Nov 6 2011, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That whole racing thing at the beginning of the episode was a bit of a face-palm moment.

I had no problem with that; these aren't a crack military team, they're a couple of princes, a cleric (with what seem to be renegade tendencies even back home), and a couple of street urchins. Panthro is the only actual soldier among them --and hell, it's not like soldiers never need to just cut loose and have fun.

Besides, the race was going fine until WilyKat Fargo'd the missiles. (And I assume the others just wrote it off [as Lion-O did] as Panthro cheating at the race. We know from the pilot that Thundercats play rough --use of deadly weapons in sport is probably not unknown.)

And Lion-O wouldn't have needed to know about the Rock Biter; he knew that the Elephants, despite their short memory, had stockpiled enough food to compensate for the wraiths. Without the wraiths, the Elephants would over-harvest and end up watching their food stores spoil.

(Plus, the wraiths seemed very well organized for a nonsentient animal --I was expecting to learn that they were intelligent.)

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 04:35 AM

Loved this episode. It played with our pre-conceptions and turned them right around with the whole "elephants never forget" idea reversed. icon-hotrod.gif And Lion-O's brash actions even seemed justified at first because of their forgetfulness - "If they are gone, something bad will happen. But... We don't know what that will be." icon-fire.gif

Also, the musical number with Kit was simply awesome.

The ending confused me, though... so the stone is in the small house, but isn't at the same time? And we saw elephants enter that small building and never exiting... I think we'll see this village again.

Got the Volume 1 DVD of the show. I don't buy new shows on DVDs often, but this one deserves all the funding I can give. Can't wait for the new episode.

Also, don't see what's wrong with 'whiskers!'. I like it. Even use it instead of real swear words. icon-hotrod.gif

Edited by BB Shockwave, 11 November 2011 - 04:46 AM.


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Posted 11 November 2011 - 08:25 AM

QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Nov 11 2011, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Got the Volume 1 DVD of the show. I don't buy new shows on DVDs often, but this one deserves all the funding I can give.

Sooooo does it really contain the full intro?

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 10:44 AM

What full intro? The full intro is the little bit you see on Cartoon Network.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 01:41 PM

QUOTE(Tm_Silverclaw @ Nov 11 2011, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What full intro? The full intro is the little bit you see on Cartoon Network.

There was a rumor that the DVDs will contain full version of the short intro.

Edited by D.M, 11 November 2011 - 02:06 PM.