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@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:05 PM)

Also, the theoretical new image would be a new compostion, it would just be individual bodies, or even just body parts, that are based on existing references by other creators, with the major caveat that there is more than one example for each reference so it's basically more like "following an established trend" than "copying someone's original creation".

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:03 PM)

Well, an homage is usually marked by a signature along the lines of "artist X after artist Y". I wasn't thinking about recreating something particularly memorable, just looking for reference images (just of a pose/perspective/layout) that looks like what I want, then finding more examples that just happen to look very similar, and it cannot be determined which version came "first".

@  ZakuConvoy : (25 June 2019 - 03:09 PM)

What you're describing is more an "homage" than plagiarism, really. I'm assuming you would be using different characters. It's basically like all the comic covers that homage the death of Supergirl cover from Crisis on Infinite Earths...but with different characters. It's not plagiarism, it's a reference. But if several artists have a memorable layout and are all using it, chances are it actually is referencing something memorably original.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:56 PM)

Would that still qualify as plagiarism? After all, it could be argued that what I've recreated isn't that original to begin with since several other people have supposedly had the same general idependently from each other.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:54 PM)

And I were then to create a new image, not traced but maybe "swiped", except I wouldn't copy a specific source image, but merely recreate the basic pose and perspective shared between all of them...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:52 PM)

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@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:49 PM)

And out of sheer coincidence, they all feature very similar ideas, concepts, poses and/or perspectives, supposedly with none of the original creators having copied from one of the others...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:47 PM)

Assuming I were to find not one but two, three, four or even more source images, all of them by different artists, or by different photographers depicting different models...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:45 PM)

Just out of curiosity, a question regarding the concept of plagiarism:

@  Benbot : (25 June 2019 - 08:58 AM)

That game needs a remake

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 08:57 AM)

I am Error.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 June 2019 - 08:17 AM)

There is no error. There is only Zuul.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 07:51 AM)

The unicron singularity fixes all continuity errors.. including Power Rangers related ones now!

@  MEDdMI : (25 June 2019 - 07:06 AM)

I reject your canon and substitute my own

@  unluckiness : (25 June 2019 - 12:32 AM)

Answer: It doesn't matter because even if there was one, it was never relevant in S1 and it got blown up with his original body

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 June 2019 - 10:55 PM)

Most people think Transformers canon is a series of discrete parallel lines, really it's more like a big ball of canony-wanony... stuff.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 June 2019 - 06:31 PM)

Hate to say this, but the simple answer is that you are thinking too hard and realistically, it does not matter.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2019 - 04:57 PM)

Don't tell me what to do.

@  Paladin : (24 June 2019 - 04:16 PM)

don't cross the streams.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 03:03 PM)

Or is this what AVP meant when he said that condradictory streams formed the JG1 timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:25 PM)

I don't like that idea.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:24 PM)

In Ask Vector Prime, it was mentioned that in the Beast Wars 2 universe, Convoys all have Energon Matrices and that when Optimus Primal from the Japanese Beast Wars stream was transported to the Beast Wars 2 stream, his history was subtly altered that he too possessed an Energon Matrix. What does this mean? That Beast Wars 2 is actually not canon to the Japanese Beast Wars?

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 08:54 AM)

yeah, I've got a few others that I need to check out/get removed. The nose one is small but annoying since I hit it every time I blow my nose.

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 08:46 AM)

Try to get a histopath examination if it isn't too expensive over there. It's probably just a mole but I'd think certainty would be better.

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 07:59 AM)

@unluckiness I know, plan to get it removed but gotta get an appt first

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

oops... typed that in the wrong field. :)

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

gizmoboy

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 03:18 AM)

That is not a good thing, especially in the long term

@  MEDdMI : (23 June 2019 - 10:17 PM)

So who wants to hear about this mole on my nose that I keep scratching open

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 June 2019 - 09:24 PM)

Yeah, it's kind of defeating the purpose of making political discussions more restricted if you're just gonna go at it elsewhere on this site.

@  Telly : (23 June 2019 - 07:06 PM)

that would probly fit better in the p & r thread. its there for things just like this

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:29 PM)

The citizens resisted by buying up all the town's beer reserves so the Nazis would have to stay sober the entire time.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:28 PM)

Meanwhile, congratulations civil resistance, part 2: So a group of Nazis were holding one of their Good Old Times Reenactment festivals in a small East German town.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:26 PM)

It's basically like an anti-Trump candidate winning Texas.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:25 PM)

The mayoral elections of Istanbul are considered to be a key indicator for the political climate in the entire country.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:24 PM)

This time, it was a landslide victory for the opposition's candidate.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:23 PM)

After president Erdogan had a court revoke the results of the mayoral election of Istanbul after the opposition party's candidate had won by a small margin, the election was repeated today.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Congratulations, democracy part 1: Today is a historic day for Turkey.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 June 2019 - 02:31 PM)

Convert, does he timeout?

@  unluckiness : (23 June 2019 - 09:12 AM)

Did he form the feet and legs or the arms and body?

@  Patch : (22 June 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Nah, he was one of the Lions

@  MEDdMI : (22 June 2019 - 04:45 PM)

Is he a Shellformer

@  Nevermore : (22 June 2019 - 12:38 PM)

Supposedly it's about that football player Calvin Johnson.

@  Pennpenn : (22 June 2019 - 07:03 AM)

I'm vaguely confused why there is a Nicki Minaj song in my youtube reccomendations, but even more confused as to why that song (which appears to be from an official account) is called "MEGATRON".

@  Liege : (21 June 2019 - 10:03 PM)

Alpha Q all night long.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 June 2019 - 10:44 AM)

Only if you ask nicely, Silv.

@  RichardT1977 : (21 June 2019 - 09:42 AM)

1998 Zilla is the Gaijin era.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 June 2019 - 01:59 AM)

Alpha Q?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 June 2019 - 01:16 AM)

Alpha Q, and U, but not U.

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 June 2019 - 08:55 PM)

KISS Players


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#2981 Betty Nor

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 07:02 AM

Oh yeah, the Rhino is great.
ROCC isn't bad, though. Works great as a mobile TOC.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 07:02 AM

And one more:

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 01:29 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Jul 6 2013, 05:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Fortress Ironhold @ Jul 6 2013, 02:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The cape kinda throws it all off for me, but otherwise it works perfectly.

I'm thinking "cast-off from Baron Ironblood's army".

....I don't get how we went from "Hey I'm thinking of making General Blitz" to "cast-off from Baron Ironblood's army".

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 01:50 PM

QUOTE(Spark @ Jul 8 2013, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Detour @ Jul 6 2013, 05:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Fortress Ironhold @ Jul 6 2013, 02:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The cape kinda throws it all off for me, but otherwise it works perfectly.

I'm thinking "cast-off from Baron Ironblood's army".

....I don't get how we went from "Hey I'm thinking of making General Blitz" to "cast-off from Baron Ironblood's army".

Black Major.


Thank you.

I honestly couldn't remember the guy's name.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 06:39 PM

Still doesn't answer my question.

Debating between keeping that Tomahawk head and doing the following mods, or getting a Con Voltar cast....


And I managed to score some nice Joe-scale vehicles from the thrift store for $5.
Gonna have to try my hand at this "vehicle customizing" thing.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 08 July 2013 - 06:46 PM

QUOTE(Betty Nor @ Jul 8 2013, 08:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh yeah, the Rhino is great.
ROCC isn't bad, though. Works great as a mobile TOC.


Nice pics. Where's that tank from?
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#2987 Betty Nor

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 07:45 PM

Well poop. I don't even remember. That pic is like 4 years old, and that was the last time I've seen those toys.

EDIT: Wait, now I remember. It was from the 1:18 "Forces of Valor: Bravo Team" line that Target used to carry.

Edited by Betty Nor, 08 July 2013 - 08:00 PM.


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Posted 08 July 2013 - 09:27 PM

Hey guys, check out what I commissionned Wingus to draw!

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 09 July 2013 - 10:13 AM

QUOTE(Detour @ Jul 8 2013, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Still doesn't answer my question.

He looks like the JoeCon Red Shadows Black Major, but with a beard.

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Debating between keeping that Tomahawk head and doing the following mods, or getting a Con Voltar cast....

The Tomahawk head is definitely more in line with the original, at least. The scar goes from left to right, by the way.

I'm kind of curious what it'd look like on the Resolute Destro body, since that one's taller than most others and has the swappable cyber arm.
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Posted 09 July 2013 - 11:17 AM

QUOTE(Spark @ Jul 9 2013, 11:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Tomahawk head is definitely more in line with the original, at least. The scar goes from left to right, by the way.

Thanks for the input on that!
I know about the scar, this was just done on the quick in MS Paint.


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I'm kind of curious what it'd look like on the Resolute Destro body, since that one's taller than most others and has the swappable cyber arm.

Find me one on the cheap and I'll tell you.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 09 July 2013 - 01:32 PM

Anyone playing the new GI Joe Battlegrounds? Similar but different than the Transformers game by the same folks. The artwork similarly is an odd combination of new and borrowed stuff. Some are old card-back illustrations while others are more modern updates.
 
 
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Posted 09 July 2013 - 03:04 PM

From the images I've seen, they're taking elements and designs from everything, be it ARAH, Sigma Six, newsculpt era, ROC...

Don't have any mobile devices so I can't really play it, though.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 09 July 2013 - 03:33 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Jul 8 2013, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey guys, check out what I commissionned Wingus to draw!


Haha, very nice! I like how his hood is swept back as well.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 03:44 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Jul 9 2013, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From the images I've seen, they're taking elements and designs from everything, be it ARAH, Sigma Six, newsculpt era, ROC...

Don't have any mobile devices so I can't really play it, though.


Yep, that's exactly it. I had to laugh when I got a Sigma 6 Firelfy. I'm sure they're saving the classic ARAH one for a rarer card.
 
 
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Posted 09 July 2013 - 06:58 PM

[note: long]

I got to thinking about something.

With minimal tinkering (if any), Hasbro could hypothetically get a full year's worth of product (if not more) largely by recycling what molds they have (or, at least, what molds they're strongly rumored to have), especially if they're willing to consider international figures & vehicles as part of the mix.

The question is, would people pay to have any of them?

Here's what I've come up with:


Vehicles & Playsets

G. I. Joe Headquarters (TRU exclusive?) (1983 mold)
*Hawk (1986-style figure, 1997 TRU colors)
*Rock & Roll (Repeater body, 1982-style head)

G. I. Joe Global Command (_____ exclusive) (Cobra Listening Post)
*Joseph Colton (convention figure w/ unused concept color scheme)
*Jane Colton (Agent Helix body with new head)

Python Stun
*Python Motor-Viper (RoC Nitro Viper)

Python Asp
*Python Lamprey

Tiger Cat (Snow Cat)
*Tiger Force Frostbite

Tiger Shark (Water Moccasin)
*Tiger Force Torpedo (prototype TF Torpedo colors)

Tiger Sting (VAMP)
*Tiger Force Bazooka

Sky Patrol Sky Hawk (Ghost Hawk mold)
*Airwave (RoC Nitro Viper w/ new head)

Sky Patrol Raven (Night Raven mold)
*Drop Zone (Strato-Viper w/ new head)

Sky Patrol Sky SHARC (SHARC mold)
*Altimeter [re: SP Airborne] (Lift-Ticket mold w/ new head)

Night Shade (SHARC mold)
*Night Force Crazylegs

Night Ray (TRU Exclusive?) (Moray Hydrofoil mold)
*Night Force Beach-Head

Armadillo (online exclusive?) (Slaughter's Marauders colors)
*Slaughter's Marauders Footloose

Tiger Paw (online exclusive?) (Cobra Ferret)
*Tiger Force Dusty

Tiger Fly (Dragonfly)
*Tiger Force Recondo

Figures

*Battle Corps Rangers Flint (new head on the Lamprey body)

*Battle Corps Dr. Mindbender (Dr. Mindbender head on the Viper body)

*Battle Corps Leatherneck (Leatherneck head and arms on the 1987-style Falcon body)

*1990 Dusty (1985-style Flint body + 1987-style Falcon head)

*Red Ninja (Dice repaint)

*Star Brigade Techno-Viper

*Super Sonic Fighters Falcon (1987-style Falcon body)

*Sonic Fighters Dial-Tone

*Sonic Fighters Law & Order

*Sonic Fighters Tunnel Rat

*Sonic Fighters Viper

*Sonic Fighters Lamprey

*Super Sonic Fighters Road Pig

*Python Patrol SAW Viper

*Python Patrol Rock Viper

*Tiger Force Outback

*Tiger Force Roadblock

*Tiger Force Wreckage

*Tiger Force Jinx

*Tiger Force Dial-Tone

*Tiger Force Psyche-Out

*Tiger Force Hit & Run

*Tiger Force Lifeline

*Tiger Force Ripcord

*Tiger Force Tripwire

*Tiger Force Skystriker

*Tiger Force Airtight

*Tiger Force Shipwreck

*Tiger Force Alpine

*Tiger Force Big Brawler

*Gatilho

*Relampago

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 07:02 PM

QUOTE(Fortress Ironhold @ Jul 9 2013, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The question is, would people pay to have any of them?

No.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 09 July 2013 - 07:07 PM

QUOTE(Betty Nor @ Jul 8 2013, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well poop. I don't even remember. That pic is like 4 years old, and that was the last time I've seen those toys.

EDIT: Wait, now I remember. It was from the 1:18 "Forces of Valor: Bravo Team" line that Target used to carry.


Hmm. Not easy to chase down then. Ah well.
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Posted 09 July 2013 - 08:22 PM

Yeah, I think I picked up my Bradley and Abrams on clearance 4 years ago. They're nice because they scale better than official vics like the MOBAT, and the degree of realism is pretty neat, too. Plus, it's nice to have more than just one guy riding in a large vic like a tank.

You can also store Joes in the back of the Bradley.

Thanks for pointing it out. I had completely forgotten that I owned those. Gonna have to dig them out of storage in the coming months.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 08:40 PM

QUOTE(Fortress Ironhold @ Jul 9 2013, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*Python Motor-Viper (RoC Nitro Viper)
*Tiger Force Airtight
*Tiger Force Shipwreck
*Gatilho
*Relampago

The Club has either done or is doing these.

On top of that, several of the remaining characters have seen their regular versions done by the Club (Dial-Tone, Footloose, SAW-Viper, probably more but I'm tired). I think it would piss a lot of people off to see the regular versions as expensive, limited exclusives while retail gets the repaints.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 08:51 PM

QUOTE(Betty Nor @ Jul 9 2013, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I think I picked up my Bradley and Abrams on clearance 4 years ago. They're nice because they scale better than official vics like the MOBAT, and the degree of realism is pretty neat, too. Plus, it's nice to have more than just one guy riding in a large vic like a tank.

You can also store Joes in the back of the Bradley.

Thanks for pointing it out. I had completely forgotten that I owned those. Gonna have to dig them out of storage in the coming months.


I've always resisted those FoV vehicles because once you go true 1:18, everything Joe looks ridiculously puny - even more so with aircraft.

I'd love to have some of that stuff but, outside of not having the room for it, I just feel like it would lessen the Joe display.
 
 
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