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@  ThunderWear : (27 January 2020 - 08:56 PM)

Think of it positively, maybe your face just has optional no-slip surfaces

@  Maximus Ambus : (27 January 2020 - 05:38 PM)

I have dyspraxia so use a electric trimmer, it's never smooth. NEVER!

@  Benbot : (27 January 2020 - 12:52 PM)

don't you hate it when you shave but miss a whisker and it bugs you all day long and you try to yank it out but you can't because it's too short to get a hold of but your hand keeps finding it whenever you touch your face?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (25 January 2020 - 11:17 PM)

Twitter's revamp is so dumb. Nowadays, even when I am logged out of my account, right-clicking an image on Google Chrome won't let me access a URL to easily get the image's full size. That functionality was so useful!

@  Steevy Maximus : (25 January 2020 - 10:01 PM)

But when was the last time you saw a major retailer (since TRU) actually allot shelf space for a Transformers Titan? Or the Vintage Collection Poe X-Wing? There's clearly some sort of disparity between "girls" and "boys" toys that give companies justification to create $100+ items in the girls segment in FAR greater frequency than in boys.

@  fourteenwings : (25 January 2020 - 12:56 AM)

"how expensive they were" Tell that to L.O.L. O.M.G. and the $129 Amazing Surprise (I mean I guess when it comes to the toy aisle Power Rangers isn't a juggernaut like L.O.L.)

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:18 PM)

I think the big reason we didn't see the actual combining Zords at retail was because of how expensive they were. It would cost $100 to get enough of them to make a Megazord, $160+ if you want the Ultrazord. Or parents could just get the dang Ultrazord for $40 even if it didn't combine.

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

Because they are "kids toys" not "collector toys"

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 03:27 PM)

1) I don't have Target. 2) can't go into my walmart. I'm surprised Hasbro won't sell the toys on Pulse

@  Bass X0 : (24 January 2020 - 02:43 PM)

I dreamt my phone was ringing and woke up to answer it.

@  Sabrblade : (24 January 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The Lightning Collection figures, the smaller normal-sized Beast Morphers Ranger/enemy/Beast-Bot figures, the role-play morpher and weapon toys, and the simplistic non-combining megazord toys have all been very easy to find at various Targets and Walmarts. It's only been the actual combining Beast Morphers zord toys (which are bizarrely being sold individually this time) that have been hard to find in stores.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Thought I do question Hasbro's almost reluctance to have the toys available anywhere.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 01:44 PM)

i've been trying to sell mine for weeks...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:37 PM)

I hadn't opened mine yet, but from what I've seen, the general agreement is that the Beast Morpher zords are much better than Bandais.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

I'm guessing if they're going to do anything on the level of Legacy Zords, it's being discussed behind NDAs at Toy Fair

@  Rodimus Supreme : (24 January 2020 - 10:38 AM)

Lightning Collection is good, and they're taking their sweet time on making Zords that are better than Bandai's Zords.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 10:34 AM)

So, what's the general PR fandom consensus of the Hasbro run of PR so far? I pretty much stepped out of the community after I got the Bandai Legacy zords I wanted.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 08:46 AM)

that would require someone to BUY Hasbro PR toys...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 07:17 AM)

Well hopefully see some cool PR stuff. Wish BBTS sold Hasbro PR toys.

@  fourteenwings : (24 January 2020 - 07:01 AM)

February 22nd through 25th, I feel like it was earlier last year...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 06:32 AM)

When is NY TF?

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:43 PM)

I don't know about Hasbro's general policy but I know everybody was on lockdown for Frozen II, which included both LEGO and Hasbro. Plus, I'm guessing everybody is holding off PR for NY Toy Fair? Overall, it's best to remember that Toy Fairs are for buyers, not fans.

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:41 PM)

LEGO has been doing this for ages, including sending cease and desists when outlets get leaked images.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:42 PM)

And then they ended up selling off the brand, so I guess I wasn't the only one.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:41 PM)

Last time a toy brand I followed tightened down on toy fair and all the invited guests posted glowing reviews of what they saw, I ended up being disappointed as heck.

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:34 PM)

JediNews UK basically said they got a walkthrough of Lego's showcase...but were legally bound to NOT talk about anything, much less take pics.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:24 PM)

I wondered why I had seen basically nothing newsworthy from the event

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:14 PM)

Word is that Hasbro and Lego have their UK Toy Fair stuff on MAJOR lockdown. Full NDAs and everything.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 09:28 PM)

Seeing people say the $0.99 + $20 shipping item is cheaper than the $19.99 + free shipping item and getting tons of likes for it... I just don't know anymore.

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

if you havent already, y'all check your walmarts clearance aisle. i found siege six shot for $5. course, it could just be my walmart, but never hurts to look

@  Vexwing : (23 January 2020 - 07:20 PM)

Candlejack is going to need more ro

@  Patch : (23 January 2020 - 06:30 PM)

I thought you had to type out Candlejack's full name bef

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 02:46 PM)

I typed in the wrong tab.

@  Paladin : (23 January 2020 - 02:32 PM)

must've been the works of Candleja

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 02:06 PM)

looks like maximus wiped himself out mid-sentence

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 08:42 AM)

Disregard this.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2020 - 06:58 PM)

Bold of you all to assume we won't wipe ourselves out in 50 years.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2020 - 04:27 PM)

There will be no UBI, people will just live in a ditch while they celebrate owning the libs.

@  Rycochet : (22 January 2020 - 03:24 PM)

In 50 years, retail will be dead because all stores are staffless fully automated operations controlled by Amazon. The UBI will be less than a fifth of what it actually costs to live after two decades of cuts and.a steadfast refusal to match inflation.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 January 2020 - 02:55 PM)

In fifty years retail will be a thing of the past through robots, printers and Universal Basic Income.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (21 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

Big retailers just don't want money anymore, so let's not give them any,

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:12 PM)

This place is a madhouse, feels like being cloned.

@  Maximus Ambus : (20 January 2020 - 03:38 PM)

I took one step beyond the outer limits to the twilight zone.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 10:19 AM)

All retail is basically the same.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2020 - 10:00 AM)

Walmart just needs to go bankrupt already.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:19 AM)

They didn't put the 35th anniversary stuff back out until after new year. I'm no retail expert, but I feel like having stock on the shelf is better than the back. Especially toys at christmas time.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Yeah, my local walmart took away the 35th anniversary endcap weeks before Christmas and left the Transformer section empty well past Christmas.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Mine only has the 35th Anniversary Voyagers. A whole lot of them.

@  Telly : (19 January 2020 - 11:35 PM)

just be happy your walmart even stocks voyagers. mine doesnt

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 January 2020 - 08:53 PM)

Figures that Walmart finally restocks Studio Voyagers...with Wave ONE


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#1301 Esser-Z

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:04 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Aug 5 2012, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Spark @ Aug 5 2012, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since the SDCC Marvel Helicarrier sold, that may be a viable option for Joe bases in the future, but the regular store shelves definitely won't tolerate them anymore. I think it's fair to say that anything over $20 in the vehicle department isn't going to sell much at all.

What's the difference between the SDCC Helicarrier and the retail one?

About a foot.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:06 PM

So... what, they upscaled it?

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


#1303 Liege

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:11 PM

No there's a larger middle section of the ship.
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And Liege, you're words really have had an effect on me. It made me relise I've shouldn't care about what others think of me, I should only care about what I think of myself.

Liege is a small dude with a lot of wisdom.

Well one of those descriptive words is accurate I suppose!

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 03:43 PM

Someone just pointed out to me that Jinx has her real name at the top of her file card AND in the text, but the card says "FILE NAME: Classified". icon-blitz.gif

It would be bad on anyone, but on an intelligence operative... yeesh.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 04:56 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Aug 5 2012, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, it's pretty unfair to use the Pitt as justification for "playsets don't sell' as it is soooo much lamer than any of the 80s bases. It's really bad, incomplete and unfun compaired to any of them.


It was more than just the PIT; the issue actually goes back at least as far as 2002.

Hasbro had planned to re-release the 1992 headquarters back in 1999 as part of a planned third assortment of TRU-exclusive product (it would have come with desert-camo versions of Dial Tone, Dusty, and Outback), but the line was cancelled and went idle while Hasbro worked on the mass-release reboot.

Because the molds were ready to go, the decision was made that the playset would be released in 2002 as a test to see whether or not the fandom would go for larger sets. However, there were rumors circulating that Hasbro had the 1983 headquarters and USS Flagg waiting in the wings, and so a number of fans chose to save their money; while individuals might have liked the set, on the whole it's near the bottom of the list in regards to popularity. The fact that Hasbro took Flint figure and named it "Rock & Roll" didn't help matters any.

The end result was that the '92 headquarters playset was such a dud that Hasbro had to recall the overstock and repackage it to represent the shift over to Joe Vs. Cobra so that they didn't have obviously "old" stock on the shelves; as part of it, they gave into the collectors and officially let Flint have his old name back.

With the headquarters sitting on the shelves for a full two years before they finally all moved out, Hasbro was hesitant about letting more big playsets go. After some prodding from the collectors, however, they gave in... and re-released the Mobile Command Center. Not only was the MCC down near the bottom of the list with the '92 Headquarters, Hasbro threw in the 2001 version of Leatherneck rather than the original driver... even though the original driver was depicted in the packaging mock-up.

Cue the MCC being an even worse dud than the 1992 headquarters.

The PIT was the first "big" playset since 2004, and as we all know it was a massive flop.

My guess is that Hasbro looked at the early production samples for the Helicarrier, changed their skivvies, and ordered the regular production sets to be a full foot shorter. Thus, the longer SDCC Helicarriers were likely said early production samples.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 06:16 PM

Why do you always get your facts so wrong, FI?

For starters, it's well known that the planned 1998 desert HQ was intended as a re-release of the 1983 Headquarters.

And for seconders, Hasbro didn't recall diddle. They just kept the production run going in a new packaging because the whole brand had shifted. You seriously overestimate the hatred for the '92 HQ. As do you the hatred for the Mobile Command Center.

And yeah... I'm pretty sure the SDCC Helicarrier isn't production samples since production samples DON'T WORK THAT WAY.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 05 August 2012 - 06:22 PM

Plus the Marvel team doesn't have any direct effect on the Joe team and vice versa. I was just pointing out a possible sales trend.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 12:44 PM

If the MMC was so hated and languished on the shelves, why was I never able to find one?

Edited by Lukeblast, 06 August 2012 - 12:48 PM.


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Posted 06 August 2012 - 02:07 PM

Clearly because a Hasbro rep came and hated it right into a dumpster.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 04:35 PM

QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Aug 6 2012, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If the MMC was so hated and languished on the shelves, why was I never able to find one?


The handful we got down here just sat for a little over a year.



Also, when most of this was going on I was a member of the Devil's Due Publishing message boards; due to all the emphasis they were giving their Joe titles, it was basically a Joe fansite with extra trappings.

Quite a bit of wailing and gnashing of teeth when we didn't get the rumored 83 HQ or USS Flagg.

#1311 Detour

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 04:45 PM

Yep. Just like I'm certain the IDW message boards are representative of the fandom as a whole.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:36 PM

QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Aug 6 2012, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If the MMC was so hated and languished on the shelves, why was I never able to find one?

"YMMV"
I know in late 2004, I was able to get one from a buddy in New York City, where he was able to get the thing for $20 (plus another $20 to ship it to me...). Said there was a pile of them and I've heard similar stores from other collectors.
And don't forget the flop of the Cobra Mountain playset in 2003.
But playsets are the epitome of the "big ticket item", something 3.75 Joe hasn't had real success with since leaving retail back in 2005. The Moray was a shelfwarmer, the entire DTC range was an almost embarrassing flop, the 2.5 Sigma Six stuff was all reduced by over 30% JUST TO MOVE. And even discounting the PITT because of its $100 price tag, the Night Raven was actually a worse performer with its $40 price tag


But even with Joe's less than stellar history with playsets...the WHOLE DAMNED MARKET has been weak against playsets dating back to 2005. The market isn't as robust as it used to be (even compared to the 90s), and the general market trend has been "against" playsets for a while. Even STar Wars doesn't technically get "playsets", they get "big vehicles" which happen to work as "playsets".

The last few playsets I know of were the Pirates ship with the last movie (which NOTHING really did well it seems), The Lair of Omens for Thundercats (which was nothing more than a few pillars, a couple mini-vehicles, and an elevator to keep the price at $40) and the NickToons Ninja Turtles Sewer Playset (which is MIA due to lack of retailer interest)
At this point, costs have gotten to the point a "traditional" playset is going to exceed a retail cost of $50..at which point they are fighting against video games and "lots of smaller stuff" for sales.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:49 PM

I dunno... it's all a matter of what you put into it.
With the PIT, a little "less is more" would've gone a long way.

This new Batcave playset is scaled for 5" figures and was ringing up 40$ at Walmart today:
http://www.entertain...?number=MTW7220

For 4" figures this thing goes from cramped to pretty darn spacious.


QUOTE(Steevy Maximus @ Aug 6 2012, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And don't forget the flop of the Cobra Mountain playset in 2003.

Cobra Mountain flopped because Cobra Mountain sucks.

Edited by Detour, 06 August 2012 - 06:50 PM.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:24 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Aug 6 2012, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno... it's all a matter of what you put into it.
With the PIT, a little "less is more" would've gone a long way.

This new Batcave playset is scaled for 5" figures and was ringing up 40$ at Walmart today:
http://www.entertain...?number=MTW7220

For 4" figures this thing goes from cramped to pretty darn spacious.


QUOTE(Steevy Maximus @ Aug 6 2012, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And don't forget the flop of the Cobra Mountain playset in 2003.

Cobra Mountain flopped because Cobra Mountain sucks.

Yeah... I loved all the Battle Droid and Super Battle Droid parts left sculpted on the base...

#1315 Detour

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 08:01 PM

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Yeah... I loved all the Battle Droid and Super Battle Droid parts left sculpted on the base...

I could've forgiven that if the rest of the playset didn't suck so much.

But you have an isolated throne with missiles on top, a helipad that leads nowhere, a really goofy looking gun turret, a jail cell that's only accessible via trap door and considering its elevation it's an impractical entry point in and of itself.

The only good thing I can say about it is "the main floor is a sorta neat display piece", which is a sucky thing to say about a two story playset.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


#1316 Steevy Maximus

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Aug 6 2012, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno... it's all a matter of what you put into it.
With the PIT, a little "less is more" would've gone a long way.

This new Batcave playset is scaled for 5" figures and was ringing up 40$ at Walmart today:
http://www.entertain...?number=MTW7220

For 4" figures this thing goes from cramped to pretty darn spacious.

That basically supports my point about Playsets: that would barely be 1/3 a playset 15 years ago. Back then, $40 could get you a repaint of the Kenner Batcave...which is LEAGUES BETTER than that.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 09:04 PM

Excluding the Pit, I can't even remember the last mainstream playset that I bought. It might have actually been a Batcave repaint. You're totally right, tho. Just like Transformers, the playsets from yester-year are leagues ahead of where playsets are now in terms of playability/fun-factor/design/size.

I guess that reminds me. I did buy the DotM Ark on clearance.

Sky Garry > The Ark.

#1318 Detour

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 09:17 PM

QUOTE(Steevy Maximus @ Aug 6 2012, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That basically supports my point about Playsets: that would barely be 1/3 a playset 15 years ago. Back then, $40 could get you a repaint of the Kenner Batcave...which is LEAGUES BETTER than that.

Yeah, but production costs have gone up due to numerous factors over the past fifteen years. Complaining about how much less stuff cost 15 years ago is like talking about how many miles you had to walk to school every day. In knee-high snow.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 06 August 2012 - 10:33 PM

Playsets just really aren't viable these days.

I recall back in the '80s that only the pretty well-off kids had playsets and the space to use them, but their modern well-off equivalents have the latest video games and systems instead. I can't really think of who big playsets would appeal to anymore outside of collectors, so SDCC again comes up as the most viable outlet.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:15 PM

Yeah, which is why keeping playsets at a 40$-and-under limit is the wiser way to go.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 




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