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@  Rycochet : (15 July 2020 - 11:04 AM)

'Take that! People who care about things!'

@  Rycochet : (15 July 2020 - 11:02 AM)

With Brian, he stopped being the voice of reason and started to be the right wing notion of a liberal, someone who's lazy, pretentious, doesn't work at anything, is every bit as abusive as the rest of the cast and only wins arguments with strawmen.

@  Otaku : (15 July 2020 - 10:56 AM)

Of course, I stopped enjoying Family Guy around that time, so my bias is clear. XP

@  Otaku : (15 July 2020 - 10:54 AM)

Is it because they changed or we changed?  Stuff that was charming, or at least, funny at first can get really annoying the longer you know a person... and I find that can go for fictional characters as well.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

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@  Maximus Ambus : (15 July 2020 - 03:45 AM)

One example is Family Guy where around season 8 Brian is suddenly reviled by everyone and has acted way out of character since.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 July 2020 - 03:44 AM)

My least favorite thing in fiction is when it changes hands so you get a author, writer or showrunner who hates a character or messes with a arc/layout.

@  Sabrblade : (14 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

You'll shoot yer eye out, kid.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 July 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I shot the sheriff.

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 July 2020 - 04:24 PM)

han wasn't even in the movie until later

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 July 2020 - 04:23 PM)

the stormtroopers shot first

@  Sabrblade : (14 July 2020 - 03:33 PM)

Maclunkey

@  Paladin : (14 July 2020 - 06:18 AM)

the correct answwer to "who shot first" will always be "Harrison Ford if he ever hears that hugging question again."

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 July 2020 - 12:25 AM)

Han shot first. Plain and simple.

@  -LittleAutob... : (13 July 2020 - 06:21 PM)

\(-_-)

@  Bass X0 : (13 July 2020 - 05:26 PM)

"Here's a little---whatever. A little thing. A disclosure. An insight. Revisionism---I've always been fascinated by it. By the idea of a writer going back and altering things. Make no mistake: an edit is a profoundly aggressive act. As Froid once said, we grieve for the murdered word. If you want to get the measure of an author, don't look at what they've left on the page.... look at what they've taken away." -- Rung (MTMTE #28)

@  Verno : (11 July 2020 - 11:20 PM)

2021: :idea :rolleyes :p :D

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:20 PM)

Perfection. :thumbsup

@  Patch : (11 July 2020 - 06:17 PM)

My plans:  :hmm  2020:  :)

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Our plans for 2020 were as amazing as Optimus Prime. But then 2020 came like Hot Rod.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 05:50 PM)

Indeed....

@  Bass X0 : (11 July 2020 - 05:40 PM)

"He who dies with the most toys wins."

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:11 PM)

Hey you, get moving, it's not too far, you're looking good so come as you are. Hey you, you never know what you'll see, when it's through that door with the 73.

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:10 PM)

Hey you, get ready, get on your feet. Get into gear and hit the street.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 12:46 PM)

I recall number 73 (old british show) discussing the Transformers movie and had the presenters trying to transform a few figures, one argued his deflated beach ball was a Transformer too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (11 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

And he's a big ball, but he's not the biggest ball of them all. (That'll be Pulse Unicron.)

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 07:37 AM)

Trypticon so scared my Primus figure he turned into a ball.

@  ▲ndrusi : (09 July 2020 - 09:56 PM)

King Nine, however, will not return.

@  Bass X0 : (09 July 2020 - 05:05 PM)

Bass_X0 will return after these messages ^^^

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 July 2020 - 03:37 PM)

WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOOOOOOOARRGH

@  -LittleAutob... : (09 July 2020 - 02:06 PM)

Okay?

@  Otaku : (09 July 2020 - 07:47 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk Ah, but the series itself has pronounced "Bass" both ways. ;)  Oh, 90s English Capcom video game voice acting...

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 July 2020 - 03:14 AM)

Looking at my Titan Returns collection I can see they realised they didn't have to paint the Titan Masters after wave one, lazy bums.

@  Maruten : (08 July 2020 - 09:13 PM)

No, I'm going with "fish".

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 July 2020 - 04:19 PM)

He stated that it's in reference to the Mega Man character, so it follows the series' tradition of music names.

@  Cybersnark : (08 July 2020 - 03:59 PM)

The real question is if it's "bass" as in music or "bass" as in the fish.

@  Otaku : (08 July 2020 - 01:27 PM)

Well, at least now I know how to pronounce @Bass X0 's screen name. ^^'  Rather, I think I'd just forgotten.  In my defense, it really does look like an emoticon or maybe just "decoration", which is what a lot of folks add to their screen names online.  Usually because someone has the name they really want. XD

@  ▲ndrusi : (08 July 2020 - 01:27 PM)

Extremely unimpressed with your idea that someone making a negative observation you don't like means they "got triggered."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (08 July 2020 - 11:16 AM)

You know somebody asked "And this would be in relation to... what exactly?"

@  Bass X0 : (08 July 2020 - 11:15 AM)

Its because someone got triggered over my random musings instead of just ignoring them. If I read one of your comments that is of no relevance or interest to me, I don't feel the need to say so.

@  -LittleAutob... : (08 July 2020 - 10:56 AM)

All this over someone's username lol

@  ▲ndrusi : (08 July 2020 - 08:34 AM)

Bazro.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (08 July 2020 - 06:34 AM)

It could be Bass 10-0

@  Nevermore : (08 July 2020 - 06:11 AM)

How do you pronounce yourself? "Bass Ex-O" or "Bass Ex-Zero"?

@  Bass X0 : (08 July 2020 - 03:23 AM)

I did almost go with Vile Bass X0, because Vile is cool too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 July 2020 - 08:34 PM)

Bossk Saw

@  ▲ndrusi : (07 July 2020 - 04:16 PM)

Bass XD

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 03:43 PM)

And its not Bass XO, its Bass X0, as in Bass, X and Zero from the Mega Man series.

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 July 2020 - 02:33 PM)

@Trpodeca :( :(

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 July 2020 - 02:32 PM)

Thats what a gray rock is? Then I'm not one.


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#1301 Esser-Z

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:04 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Aug 5 2012, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Spark @ Aug 5 2012, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since the SDCC Marvel Helicarrier sold, that may be a viable option for Joe bases in the future, but the regular store shelves definitely won't tolerate them anymore. I think it's fair to say that anything over $20 in the vehicle department isn't going to sell much at all.

What's the difference between the SDCC Helicarrier and the retail one?

About a foot.

#1302 Detour

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:06 PM

So... what, they upscaled it?

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:11 PM

No there's a larger middle section of the ship.
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And Liege, you're words really have had an effect on me. It made me relise I've shouldn't care about what others think of me, I should only care about what I think of myself.

Liege is a small dude with a lot of wisdom.

Well one of those descriptive words is accurate I suppose!

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 03:43 PM

Someone just pointed out to me that Jinx has her real name at the top of her file card AND in the text, but the card says "FILE NAME: Classified". icon-blitz.gif

It would be bad on anyone, but on an intelligence operative... yeesh.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 04:56 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Aug 5 2012, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, it's pretty unfair to use the Pitt as justification for "playsets don't sell' as it is soooo much lamer than any of the 80s bases. It's really bad, incomplete and unfun compaired to any of them.


It was more than just the PIT; the issue actually goes back at least as far as 2002.

Hasbro had planned to re-release the 1992 headquarters back in 1999 as part of a planned third assortment of TRU-exclusive product (it would have come with desert-camo versions of Dial Tone, Dusty, and Outback), but the line was cancelled and went idle while Hasbro worked on the mass-release reboot.

Because the molds were ready to go, the decision was made that the playset would be released in 2002 as a test to see whether or not the fandom would go for larger sets. However, there were rumors circulating that Hasbro had the 1983 headquarters and USS Flagg waiting in the wings, and so a number of fans chose to save their money; while individuals might have liked the set, on the whole it's near the bottom of the list in regards to popularity. The fact that Hasbro took Flint figure and named it "Rock & Roll" didn't help matters any.

The end result was that the '92 headquarters playset was such a dud that Hasbro had to recall the overstock and repackage it to represent the shift over to Joe Vs. Cobra so that they didn't have obviously "old" stock on the shelves; as part of it, they gave into the collectors and officially let Flint have his old name back.

With the headquarters sitting on the shelves for a full two years before they finally all moved out, Hasbro was hesitant about letting more big playsets go. After some prodding from the collectors, however, they gave in... and re-released the Mobile Command Center. Not only was the MCC down near the bottom of the list with the '92 Headquarters, Hasbro threw in the 2001 version of Leatherneck rather than the original driver... even though the original driver was depicted in the packaging mock-up.

Cue the MCC being an even worse dud than the 1992 headquarters.

The PIT was the first "big" playset since 2004, and as we all know it was a massive flop.

My guess is that Hasbro looked at the early production samples for the Helicarrier, changed their skivvies, and ordered the regular production sets to be a full foot shorter. Thus, the longer SDCC Helicarriers were likely said early production samples.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 06:16 PM

Why do you always get your facts so wrong, FI?

For starters, it's well known that the planned 1998 desert HQ was intended as a re-release of the 1983 Headquarters.

And for seconders, Hasbro didn't recall diddle. They just kept the production run going in a new packaging because the whole brand had shifted. You seriously overestimate the hatred for the '92 HQ. As do you the hatred for the Mobile Command Center.

And yeah... I'm pretty sure the SDCC Helicarrier isn't production samples since production samples DON'T WORK THAT WAY.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 05 August 2012 - 06:22 PM

Plus the Marvel team doesn't have any direct effect on the Joe team and vice versa. I was just pointing out a possible sales trend.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 12:44 PM

If the MMC was so hated and languished on the shelves, why was I never able to find one?

Edited by Lukeblast, 06 August 2012 - 12:48 PM.


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Posted 06 August 2012 - 02:07 PM

Clearly because a Hasbro rep came and hated it right into a dumpster.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 04:35 PM

QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Aug 6 2012, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If the MMC was so hated and languished on the shelves, why was I never able to find one?


The handful we got down here just sat for a little over a year.



Also, when most of this was going on I was a member of the Devil's Due Publishing message boards; due to all the emphasis they were giving their Joe titles, it was basically a Joe fansite with extra trappings.

Quite a bit of wailing and gnashing of teeth when we didn't get the rumored 83 HQ or USS Flagg.

#1311 Detour

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 04:45 PM

Yep. Just like I'm certain the IDW message boards are representative of the fandom as a whole.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


#1312 Steevy Maximus

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:36 PM

QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Aug 6 2012, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If the MMC was so hated and languished on the shelves, why was I never able to find one?

"YMMV"
I know in late 2004, I was able to get one from a buddy in New York City, where he was able to get the thing for $20 (plus another $20 to ship it to me...). Said there was a pile of them and I've heard similar stores from other collectors.
And don't forget the flop of the Cobra Mountain playset in 2003.
But playsets are the epitome of the "big ticket item", something 3.75 Joe hasn't had real success with since leaving retail back in 2005. The Moray was a shelfwarmer, the entire DTC range was an almost embarrassing flop, the 2.5 Sigma Six stuff was all reduced by over 30% JUST TO MOVE. And even discounting the PITT because of its $100 price tag, the Night Raven was actually a worse performer with its $40 price tag


But even with Joe's less than stellar history with playsets...the WHOLE DAMNED MARKET has been weak against playsets dating back to 2005. The market isn't as robust as it used to be (even compared to the 90s), and the general market trend has been "against" playsets for a while. Even STar Wars doesn't technically get "playsets", they get "big vehicles" which happen to work as "playsets".

The last few playsets I know of were the Pirates ship with the last movie (which NOTHING really did well it seems), The Lair of Omens for Thundercats (which was nothing more than a few pillars, a couple mini-vehicles, and an elevator to keep the price at $40) and the NickToons Ninja Turtles Sewer Playset (which is MIA due to lack of retailer interest)
At this point, costs have gotten to the point a "traditional" playset is going to exceed a retail cost of $50..at which point they are fighting against video games and "lots of smaller stuff" for sales.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:49 PM

I dunno... it's all a matter of what you put into it.
With the PIT, a little "less is more" would've gone a long way.

This new Batcave playset is scaled for 5" figures and was ringing up 40$ at Walmart today:
http://www.entertain...?number=MTW7220

For 4" figures this thing goes from cramped to pretty darn spacious.


QUOTE(Steevy Maximus @ Aug 6 2012, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And don't forget the flop of the Cobra Mountain playset in 2003.

Cobra Mountain flopped because Cobra Mountain sucks.

Edited by Detour, 06 August 2012 - 06:50 PM.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:24 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Aug 6 2012, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno... it's all a matter of what you put into it.
With the PIT, a little "less is more" would've gone a long way.

This new Batcave playset is scaled for 5" figures and was ringing up 40$ at Walmart today:
http://www.entertain...?number=MTW7220

For 4" figures this thing goes from cramped to pretty darn spacious.


QUOTE(Steevy Maximus @ Aug 6 2012, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And don't forget the flop of the Cobra Mountain playset in 2003.

Cobra Mountain flopped because Cobra Mountain sucks.

Yeah... I loved all the Battle Droid and Super Battle Droid parts left sculpted on the base...

#1315 Detour

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 08:01 PM

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Yeah... I loved all the Battle Droid and Super Battle Droid parts left sculpted on the base...

I could've forgiven that if the rest of the playset didn't suck so much.

But you have an isolated throne with missiles on top, a helipad that leads nowhere, a really goofy looking gun turret, a jail cell that's only accessible via trap door and considering its elevation it's an impractical entry point in and of itself.

The only good thing I can say about it is "the main floor is a sorta neat display piece", which is a sucky thing to say about a two story playset.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


#1316 Steevy Maximus

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Aug 6 2012, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno... it's all a matter of what you put into it.
With the PIT, a little "less is more" would've gone a long way.

This new Batcave playset is scaled for 5" figures and was ringing up 40$ at Walmart today:
http://www.entertain...?number=MTW7220

For 4" figures this thing goes from cramped to pretty darn spacious.

That basically supports my point about Playsets: that would barely be 1/3 a playset 15 years ago. Back then, $40 could get you a repaint of the Kenner Batcave...which is LEAGUES BETTER than that.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 09:04 PM

Excluding the Pit, I can't even remember the last mainstream playset that I bought. It might have actually been a Batcave repaint. You're totally right, tho. Just like Transformers, the playsets from yester-year are leagues ahead of where playsets are now in terms of playability/fun-factor/design/size.

I guess that reminds me. I did buy the DotM Ark on clearance.

Sky Garry > The Ark.

#1318 Detour

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 09:17 PM

QUOTE(Steevy Maximus @ Aug 6 2012, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That basically supports my point about Playsets: that would barely be 1/3 a playset 15 years ago. Back then, $40 could get you a repaint of the Kenner Batcave...which is LEAGUES BETTER than that.

Yeah, but production costs have gone up due to numerous factors over the past fifteen years. Complaining about how much less stuff cost 15 years ago is like talking about how many miles you had to walk to school every day. In knee-high snow.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 06 August 2012 - 10:33 PM

Playsets just really aren't viable these days.

I recall back in the '80s that only the pretty well-off kids had playsets and the space to use them, but their modern well-off equivalents have the latest video games and systems instead. I can't really think of who big playsets would appeal to anymore outside of collectors, so SDCC again comes up as the most viable outlet.
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#1320 Detour

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:15 PM

Yeah, which is why keeping playsets at a 40$-and-under limit is the wiser way to go.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 




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