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@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 July 2020 - 05:13 PM)

KHAAAAAAAN


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#9821 Jalaguy

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Posted 28 November 2019 - 01:25 PM

Made myself a quick Sitterson Cobra Commander, drawing on the end of issue #9 where she's just put on the hood with her usual outfit:

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Posted 28 November 2019 - 07:45 PM

Not bad, though I do think a black version of that hood would work better.


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Posted 05 December 2019 - 03:53 PM

New rumor at HISS Tank: With the new Snakes Eyes movie on the horizon, GI Joe is considering an evergreen line. "According to the info, the team is specialized to cater several demographics including Preschool, Kids, Collectors and Budget."

 

This may--or may not--include a six-inch line.

 

At this point, I'd be delighted to see ANY figures in stores when the Snake Eyes movie comes out.



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Posted 05 December 2019 - 04:18 PM

It would be interesting if they started a kids-focused line at the 5" scale similar to what they've begun with Star Wars. That may still allow for some vehicle interaction at least.

 

They can go 6" if they like, but I won't be starting over. Of course a "Vintage Collection" style line of 4" figures could be a blessing and a curse. We could stand to get a lot of the early 25th Anniversary figures in updated styles to better match the construction and quality of the tail-end of the line, but if it's only a half-dozen new figures a year, I'm not so sure.


 
 
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Posted 06 December 2019 - 05:23 AM

It'll be nice to see Joes back on shelves. Whatever caters to kids and leverages the fun of GI Joe, and frankly abandons the frequently-toxic, mired-in-military-fetishism old fandom, I'm all for. 



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Posted 08 December 2019 - 01:33 AM

It'll be nice to see Joes back on shelves. Whatever caters to kids and leverages the fun of GI Joe, and frankly abandons the frequently-toxic, mired-in-military-fetishism old fandom, I'm all for. 

 

Amen. A lot of the Joe stuff is about as true to military procedure as superhero comics are to law enforcement, and I feel like even most of the diehard fans get that it's escapism. But man, there's always a segment of fandom that 1) forgets that this stuff is largely aimed at a younger audience, and 2) forgets that if that potential fanbase doesn't respond, the property is just going to go fallow again.



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Posted 09 December 2019 - 03:48 AM

I think embracing the wacky is definitely the way to go if they want the line to enjoy some new life.

Like, obviously that would piss off The GI Joe Fans, but... well, you know.

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Posted 09 December 2019 - 01:40 PM

Give me a nicely detailed line of 5poa figures with 2-3 accessories for $5 each. Make them look as nice as the POC Cobra Commander that came with the blue HISS tank. 

 

Give the majority of them removable helmets and I will become an avid collector of the new line. There is something (probably Freudianly) satisfying about putting helmets on Joe figures.



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Posted 09 December 2019 - 02:02 PM



Purely a Lanard thing. Been around since their O-ring days.

 

Yup. I have a red "Marauders" version on a shelf at work right now. Excuse the red Blade Warriors. I am testing them out as Marauders today.

 

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And as for them reusing molds for the Aliens line, supposedly they will be using some of the later STAR Force stuff, as STAR Force is also making a return as STAR Troopers.


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Posted 09 December 2019 - 03:34 PM

I think embracing the wacky is definitely the way to go if they want the line to enjoy some new life.

Like, obviously that would piss off The GI Joe Fans, but... well, you know.

All 15 of them.

 

Give me a nicely detailed line of 5poa figures with 2-3 accessories for $5 each. Make them look as nice as the POC Cobra Commander that came with the blue HISS tank. 

You kind of have to retain good articulation, since it just ends up unable to compete against the Lanards and in-house brand army action figures of the world otherwise.  These aren't characters people are really willing to pay a premium for like Star Wars or Marvel while overlooking the quality of the actual toy.


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Posted 09 December 2019 - 03:52 PM

Yeah, 5 POA is unacceptable. It was unacceptable with those vehicle drivers, and it's unacceptable now.

They don't all have to be super-articulated, but they need to at least have the ARAH minimum articulation.
 
 
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Posted 09 December 2019 - 06:15 PM

Well, then 9poa - add in the elbows and knees. That's fine. I just don't want to pay $10+ for an over-jointed, over-accessorized figure that I reall juet want to gear up or stick in a vehicle. I still cannot stand the look of "modern" style Joes. I had more fun with that 5poa CC than any of the other figures in that line.

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Posted 09 December 2019 - 09:12 PM

I'm cool with the slightly diminished articulation of the early-wave Retaliation figures (single knee joint, no ankle). Except for ninjas.


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Posted 10 December 2019 - 09:29 AM

I'm fine with that even for ninjas, really. I think we've gotten a good run of figures (nnjas included) that DO have that articulation, and we may be due a different play pattern than LOOK YOU GUYS HE CAN BEND HIS WRIST INWARDS.

 

I remember actually getting the first wave and wondering what the hell all the wailing and gnashing of teeth was about. "Oh no, his boot is a solid piece, no ankle." "How dare they only give him one knee/elbow joint". The only actually objectionable thing was giving Roadblock permanently filled and oddly-bent hands that made him look like he was constantly texting someone to death. 


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Posted 10 December 2019 - 02:10 PM

If they can find a way to guarantee that the legs won't be warped in the packaging, then I'm fine with no ankles. But every Retaliation figure I got that was missing the basic ankle articulation was unable to stand properly.

This remains true with many Star Wars figures to this day as well.
 
 
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Posted 10 December 2019 - 04:57 PM



Well, then 9poa - add in the elbows and knees. That's fine. I just don't want to pay $10+ for an over-jointed, over-accessorized figure that I reall juet want to gear up or stick in a vehicle. I still cannot stand the look of "modern" style Joes. I had more fun with that 5poa CC than any of the other figures in that line.

You pretty much can't dip below '80s level articulation, or they end up looking bad next to The Corps on the shelves.  Which will be cheaper by default anyway since they reuse molds into dust, but I totally agree that $10 isn't feasible, and we definitely don't need crap like individual bullets, "webgear this/webgear that", and massive techno harnesses pointlessly made out of like 16 parts.  That got freaking ridiculous in a really bad way.  Basically, give me, like, a backpack and one or two guns and I'm good.


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Posted 11 December 2019 - 03:12 AM

Which will be cheaper by default anyway since they reuse molds into dust,

I mean, ever since Hasbro released Snake-Eyes Version 54 and the Cobra Shock Trooper, that's been their main source of body parts for about 70% of subsequent offerings, so.....
 


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Posted 11 December 2019 - 09:52 AM

 

Which will be cheaper by default anyway since they reuse molds into dust,

I mean, ever since Hasbro released Snake-Eyes Version 54 and the Cobra Shock Trooper, that's been their main source of body parts for about 70% of subsequent offerings, so.....
 

 

 

This is what makes me laugh the most with the Marauder shills.  Don't get me wrong, John and Ruben and the gang make a great product and I've helped fund several of the Kickstarters.  But I see the same people who would constantly shit on Hasbro for mold reuse crapping out awful Marauder Joe customs that all look like Marge Simpson trying to stretch that one poor Chanel dress into as many forms as possible. It's gotten mildly better with the Agency and Contract options and now the WWII parts, but so many unimpressive lazy bastard customs are etched into my brain.


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Posted 11 December 2019 - 11:14 AM

There's also all the complaining about Hasbro reusing parts... And the insistence that the fan club should produce redeco after redeco that essentially reuses the same handful of parts. Interesting newer characters be damned, let's get the tenth version of the Shock Trooper bod in Night Tiger Force Team colors.


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Posted 11 December 2019 - 11:43 AM

Went for something a little different from my admittedly rather sterile deleted scenes lists.  Just put up a lengthy piece detailing the key scenes cut or changed from the G.I Joe The Movie script.  Some of these are well known, others not so much:

https://sunbowmarvel...summary-of.html


The Sunbow and Marvel Productions script/storyboard archive, chronicling ten years of animation history: https://sunbowmarvel...e.blogspot.com/

 




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