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@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 July 2020 - 05:13 PM)

KHAAAAAAAN

@  PlutoniumBoss : (31 July 2020 - 03:04 PM)

Bueller? Bueller?

@  Jet : (31 July 2020 - 11:31 AM)

DONKEY!

@  Maximus Ambus : (31 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

Spanner

@  Xaaron : (31 July 2020 - 06:49 AM)

Jetstorm

@  Nevermore : (31 July 2020 - 05:33 AM)

Tankor

@  SG Roadbuster : (31 July 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Overrun

@  lastmaximal : (31 July 2020 - 01:33 AM)

Buckethead

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 July 2020 - 07:15 PM)

Now I wonder how many Transformers we can name with the fewest possible different names.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:38 PM)

Ransack. That's like another 20 or so.


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#9701 Agent X

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Posted 28 July 2019 - 07:41 AM

Maybe someone can get Paul Allor to do a Q&A here?

 

And I might just pick up his new book to thumb my nose at G.I. Joe "Fans".


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Posted 28 July 2019 - 08:11 AM

There's a thread  (in their Joe comic forum part) on the Hisstank forum where he's talking to them just fine now. His book could be good or great so best wished to him and the creative team yeah?

 

As for Sitterson, he was a bit of a prick so, no tears shed there.


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Posted 28 July 2019 - 03:15 PM

Sitterson was the perfect reflection of the majority of the Joe fanbase.

 

They can dish it out but they sure couldn't take it.


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Posted 28 July 2019 - 06:05 PM

Well in more fun news (for me at least).

My final grail item is done. It showed up with some fairly decent damage, and was filthy. But lots of scrubbing (in the garden tub), and careful repair work later and the Defiant has landed!

 

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Tucks in nicely "underground" next to the PIT.


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Posted 28 July 2019 - 09:03 PM

Well in more fun news (for me at least).

My final grail item is done. It showed up with some fairly descent damage, and was filthy. But lots of scrubbing (in the garden tub), and careful repair work later and the Defiant has landed!

 

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Tucks in nicely "underground" next to the PIT.

 

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Posted 29 July 2019 - 10:48 AM

It LIVES!

https://news.hisstan...LtqXsRoECWdKrlA

 

Out on soft launch on Android in select regions.  Looks like Hasbro's going to push a "Earth Wars" type RTS game for Joe as well.  And given the amount of "synergy" these projects have seemingly had, I can't help but wonder if we're seeing a preview of the "kid centric" GI Joe line for next year, ala the revamped Galaxy of Heroes line for Star Wars.  Also seems to explain that "Overwatch" type concept art we saw last year or so.  Might have been early work on this game.

 

I'm intrigued at the range their stuff is pulling from.  I see some relatively obscure later Joe vehicles like the X-Wing Chopper, Mamba, Piranha  and Maggot; alongside those is some stuff like the DTC/Sigma Six HISS tank and the Black Dragon VTOL from Renegades.  And even the "classic" vehicles seemingly got some make over on them (the VAMP is seemingly a mix of the original and 2012 remake).  Character design also seems to be pulling from a LOT of sources as well (Love the inclusion of some Renegades on Scrap Iron's design).

 

I mean, IF, this is an indication of where Hasbro is taking the line...I really dig what I'm seeing.  And I can see these doing well at any scale in the current market, especially with solid back end support from Hasbro.

 

 

Though, given Joe fans' luck over the past 5 plus years, this will be just like the Snake Eyes mobile game and we'll see some interesting design work, but nothing will actually come of it in a broader brand perspective.


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Posted 29 July 2019 - 12:31 PM

Who is the G.I. Joe towards the center wearing goggles?


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Posted 29 July 2019 - 02:28 PM

Who is the G.I. Joe towards the center wearing goggles?

I'm thinking it's the female version of Doc, unless they race-swapped Helix.  That's another that makes me think there might be more to it since it makes ZERO sense for a new character to be introduced in a mere mobile game.



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Posted 29 July 2019 - 03:14 PM

Who is the G.I. Joe towards the center wearing goggles?

I think it's Tunnel Rat.



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Posted 29 July 2019 - 03:21 PM

Yeah, the goggles looks like Tunnel Rat. The woman with the sunglasses may be Helix but Doc is a good possibility too. It looks like she has syringes on her gauntlet.


 
 
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Posted 29 July 2019 - 06:02 PM

That's got to be female doc. Either way, I like that this exists.
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Posted 29 July 2019 - 07:18 PM

It LIVES!

https://news.hisstan...LtqXsRoECWdKrlA

 

Out on soft launch on Android in select regions.  Looks like Hasbro's going to push a "Earth Wars" type RTS game for Joe as well.  And given the amount of "synergy" these projects have seemingly had, I can't help but wonder if we're seeing a preview of the "kid centric" GI Joe line for next year, ala the revamped Galaxy of Heroes line for Star Wars.  Also seems to explain that "Overwatch" type concept art we saw last year or so.  Might have been early work on this game.

 

I'm intrigued at the range their stuff is pulling from.  I see some relatively obscure later Joe vehicles like the X-Wing Chopper, Mamba, Piranha  and Maggot; alongside those is some stuff like the DTC/Sigma Six HISS tank and the Black Dragon VTOL from Renegades.  And even the "classic" vehicles seemingly got some make over on them (the VAMP is seemingly a mix of the original and 2012 remake).  Character design also seems to be pulling from a LOT of sources as well (Love the inclusion of some Renegades on Scrap Iron's design).

 

I mean, IF, this is an indication of where Hasbro is taking the line...I really dig what I'm seeing.  And I can see these doing well at any scale in the current market, especially with solid back end support from Hasbro.

 

 

Though, given Joe fans' luck over the past 5 plus years, this will be just like the Snake Eyes mobile game and we'll see some interesting design work, but nothing will actually come of it in a broader brand perspective.

 

Looks good, if it's a sign of things to come I hope the toys are awesome. 


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Posted 29 July 2019 - 07:35 PM

Well in more fun news (for me at least).

My final grail item is done. It showed up with some fairly decent damage, and was filthy. But lots of scrubbing (in the garden tub), and careful repair work later and the Defiant has landed!

 

I feel the Defiant doesn't get the respect it should.  The Flagg gets all the attention, but the Flagg is a relatively "simple" construct, and uses the sheer SIZE of the offering to offset the lack of complexity.  It has a LOT of dead space, and what little true "play set" areas it has are really undercooked.

 

The Defiant?  Any of those pieces were as good as any given retail offering that year.  The complex mechanics and sheer volume of "play areas" gave the offering a wealth of play options, and not even, necessarily, in a space environment (put the Rolling Thunder's rockets in the gantry, and you have a serviceable missile base for either side).

 

There was a reason it cost MORE than the Flagg back in the day.  Too bad it continues to cost more than a Flagg today as well...



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Posted 29 July 2019 - 10:49 PM

Yeah. The comparison of the two is natural considering their size and prices, but I always thought it was a bit unfair. 

 

The Flagg is fantastic as a play table. If you have room for it, the dollhouse charactistic + interactivity with your other toys can't really be matched.

 

Meanwhile, the base/playset concept that began with the Joe HQ, was massively improved on by the Terrordrome and reached it's pinnacle in the Defiant. And it's that ultimate hubris that makes the Defiant so hard to get today. Lots going on, many big pieces to break and little pieces to lose all wrapped up in a 8.5 or so cubic feet of play space.


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Posted 08 August 2019 - 10:30 AM

Love my shuttles too!

 

After years of being mothballed, neither the Defiant or Crusader were operational. When Cobra started making moves into space, the Joes cannibalized parts from both shuttles to create one working vehicle.

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 04:06 PM

Everybody's toy pics are making me regret selling that batch of carded JOEs...

 

Come on, Hasbro. Do something. 6" Black / Lightning Scale. More 3 3/4". I don't care.

 

I always wanted one of those shuttles. Along with the WHALE and Firebat, they were my Joe "Holy Grails."

 

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 06:14 PM

Well, the Firebat is an easy place to start again!


 
 
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 07:38 PM

I've still got my 25th Firebat. Man that was a happy day getting that.

Still have a bunch of the early-2000s rereleases (including the mobile command center). Not sure what condition they're in. They ended up in a garage until last year due to some moves.

Pretty sure I've still got the green Moray, too.


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Posted 09 August 2019 - 10:18 AM

My only Joe related Grail is the Cobra Mamba, which I haven't gotten just because I vowed that it would be the last Joe toy I ever buy.  I've wanted that thing since like 1987.  There's even one sitting in a store 30 minutes away from me right now.


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Posted 09 August 2019 - 01:39 PM

Well, you're allowed to change your mind about it being the last you know. :D

And it is a cool helicopter. You do yourself a disservice waiting if the nearby one is priced right.

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