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@  Paladin : (26 May 2020 - 08:10 PM)

it's too hugging hot today.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

I'll agree with you on that.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

*Figured -_-

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

I fugured

@  Steevy Maximus : (25 May 2020 - 01:37 PM)

I'm actually sad Cyberverse won't get another season. 2 and 3 (of what I've seen) have REALLY nailed it in being fun little actions shows, like the Sunbow series.

@  Rycochet : (25 May 2020 - 01:00 PM)

Yes.

@  Maximus Ambus : (25 May 2020 - 12:52 PM)

I'm waiting for Animated season 4. Am I insane?

@  wonko the sane? : (25 May 2020 - 11:22 AM)

I'm waiting for the next season to show up on netflix.

@  Sabrblade : (25 May 2020 - 10:59 AM)

Many of us have already watched the rest of the Cyberverse episodes since the whole third season aired in the UK last September.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 10:18 AM)

*9th

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 10:17 AM)

I just saw the 8th episode... omg

@  Bass X0 : (25 May 2020 - 01:28 AM)

Already seen it online.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 09:42 PM)

Who's excited for tomorrow? The only thing that makes Monday worth it is the Cyberverse episodes .-.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 May 2020 - 12:30 PM)

Welcome. I just came into that trick myself recently, so happy to share.

@  Nevermore : (24 May 2020 - 12:05 PM)

Thanks, wonko the sane? for the tip with the cloning. That helped a lot!

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 12:02 PM)

Heheh.... yes... I don't think a sniper would be very good at making a vaccine... 0.0

@  Nevermore : (24 May 2020 - 11:48 AM)

All right! Cloning my old HHD to an SSD and then swapping out the drive was successful, it would appear. Finally.

@  Bass X0 : (24 May 2020 - 11:30 AM)

Scientist Perceptor is. Sniper Perceptor less so.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 10:51 AM)

Perceptor would be more responsible.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 10:48 AM)

Oof x~x

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 May 2020 - 10:45 AM)

He'd cure the virus, but he'd probably commit at least two crimes against nature and weaponize a third in the process.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 09:39 AM)

'Horrible consequences' would most likely happen with Brainstorm...

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 08:16 AM)

Totally. And Percy's not even human. XD

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 May 2020 - 06:50 AM)

Can't do much worse than our current government, I say go for it.

@  Sabrblade : (23 May 2020 - 10:13 PM)

Little do we realize that the Perceptor in question is the Mini-Con combiner. :p

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 10:11 PM)

He would!!!

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 10:11 PM)

Horrible consequences? I... Doubt that would happen.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 May 2020 - 09:55 PM)

Even if he would come up with the answer by tomorrow.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 May 2020 - 09:54 PM)

I'd rather not deal with the horrible but unintended consequences of that.

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 09:52 PM)

Lets let Perceptor make a vaccine for COVID-19. Who agrees with me :)

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 08:43 PM)

I'll take your word for it. =D

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 May 2020 - 08:42 PM)

Although the TV edits of Robocop do contain some hilarity

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 May 2020 - 08:41 PM)

I can't think of any instance where sanitizing a film is a good thing.

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 06:42 PM)

.... and thats a good thing? :doh

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 May 2020 - 06:39 PM)

I'm watching Predator on Starz! That means it has all the language and gore uncensored!

@  Sabrblade : (23 May 2020 - 04:23 PM)

*grabs popcorn*

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 12:49 PM)

*watching everyone argue* O^O

@  fourteenwings : (23 May 2020 - 10:22 AM)

By that logic we might as well just get rid of the Shoutbox wholesale! I'd rather have like 3 or 4 things stuck for a week or so than one person dominating the whole thing (no offense Nevermore).

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 May 2020 - 03:30 AM)

I would argue that "full of something one doesn't read" and "devoid of reading material" are functionally identical at the end-user level. :D

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 May 2020 - 07:58 PM)

If it emptied, it would become empty.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (22 May 2020 - 07:53 PM)

It would be the same effect as if the shoutbox simply emptied once or twice a week.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 May 2020 - 07:27 PM)

I don't see how having walls of the same guy on top whenever I go to any page on this site is "refreshing".

@  PlutoniumBoss : (22 May 2020 - 06:10 PM)

I don't know, I find the occasional flushing of the box to be refreshing.

@  Telly : (22 May 2020 - 04:20 PM)

but its gets annoying seeing a wall of text from him that takes up most of the shoutbox

@  PlutoniumBoss : (22 May 2020 - 03:53 PM)

Eh, that's just Nevermore.

@  fourteenwings : (22 May 2020 - 12:11 AM)

@Nevermore: Good rule of thumb is if you feel like you need not just multiple statements but also multiple shouts to make a point, best just make a thread.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 May 2020 - 05:36 PM)

Dude, do you just, not know when to stop?

@  Nevermore : (21 May 2020 - 03:35 PM)

Instead of "I have only ten hours to get all my stuff from place A to place B", it's more like "I temporarily stored 90% of my stuff in easily accessible place C in my spare time, so now I have ten hours to get the remaining 10% of my stuff over to the new place before permanently saying goodbye to the old place".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 May 2020 - 03:33 PM)

At these point you two are just repeating what you already said.

@  Nevermore : (21 May 2020 - 03:32 PM)

Again using my "moving apartments" analogy. If you can store the stuff you don't immediately need for everyday life somewhere else, it reduces the critical time of permanently switching your primary base of residence over to the new place because there's less stuff to move when the time comes.


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#3001 Betty Nor

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 09:19 PM

I try to avoid all aircraft, Joe or otherwise. They're just too big/odd-shaped and take of up too much space.

I see people that display their aircraft on the floor next to their shelves, and I've always felt that it looked too cluttered, even for a toy display.

Short of having an entire squadron suspended from your ceiling or a huge toy room with custom shelves, they're just not that feasible to collect.

As much as I like my Crimson Command Copter, I'm going to have to part with it much sooner than other pieces in my collection.

Edited by Betty Nor, 10 July 2013 - 01:50 AM.


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 12:49 AM

Aw man, I just looked up the ROCC and RHINO, and now I wish Hasbro would make them into Optimus, Magnus, and Springer icon-screamer.gif Even more bummed that there won't be anymore crossovers now.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 01:01 PM

QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Jul 9 2013, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On top of that, several of the remaining characters have seen their regular versions done by the Club (Dial-Tone, Footloose, SAW-Viper, probably more but I'm tired). I think it would piss a lot of people off to see the regular versions as expensive, limited exclusives while retail gets the repaints.

I know there would be some bickering. But I still think that enough of us would rather have the obscure repaints at regular retail price than no figure at all given how expensive the club figures are. For instance, I would much rather have a regular Dial Tone and Law. But it isn't going to happen given how expensive they are. I'd be grateful if Hasbro released the Sonic Fighters repaints of them at retail. At least I'd have the character at a price I could afford even if it was a more obscure repaint.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 01:39 PM

QUOTE(Betty Nor @ Jul 9 2013, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I try to avoid all aircraft, Joe or otherwise. They're just too big/odd-shaped and take of up too much space.

I'd love to agree with you, but almost all my favorite vehicles outside of the HISS and its iterations are Cobra aircraft. Actually, pretty much the only vehicles I've ever bought are all Cobra. That sweet, sweet Cobra Hurricane and Mamba...

QUOTE(Aberration @ Jul 10 2013, 01:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Even more bummed that there won't be anymore crossovers now.

Eh? Why's that?

QUOTE(FAKER II @ Jul 10 2013, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Jul 9 2013, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On top of that, several of the remaining characters have seen their regular versions done by the Club (Dial-Tone, Footloose, SAW-Viper, probably more but I'm tired). I think it would piss a lot of people off to see the regular versions as expensive, limited exclusives while retail gets the repaints.

I know there would be some bickering. But I still think that enough of us would rather have the obscure repaints at regular retail price than no figure at all given how expensive the club figures are. For instance, I would much rather have a regular Dial Tone and Law. But it isn't going to happen given how expensive they are. I'd be grateful if Hasbro released the Sonic Fighters repaints of them at retail. At least I'd have the character at a price I could afford even if it was a more obscure repaint.

Am I the only person who'd rather have new stuff at retail and for the Club to distribute the rehashes? More Data Vipers and Hazard Vipers and Shadow Trackers and whatever new Joe guys have appeared (any?), less "Beachhead now in darker tan with three more guns!".
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 02:00 PM

QUOTE(Spark @ Jul 10 2013, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Aberration @ Jul 10 2013, 01:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Even more bummed that there won't be anymore crossovers now.

Eh? Why's that?

This year's SDCC Hound/Jetfire says "The Epic Conclusion!" on the box, which sounds like they're done with Joe vehicles as Transformers, sadly.

#3006 Steevy Maximus

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 06:45 PM

QUOTE(Dake @ Jul 9 2013, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyone playing the new GI Joe Battlegrounds? Similar but different than the Transformers game by the same folks. The artwork similarly is an odd combination of new and borrowed stuff. Some are old card-back illustrations while others are more modern updates.

Yeah, I've been playing (invite code is 7yigRr if anyone hasn't downloaded yet. I'm one Stormy away from an "impure" Epic level card!). During a lull in TF Legends I tried Blood Brothers from the same comany: it's the same game, albeit in GI Joe flavor.

A good bit more complex, and leveling up takes a LOT more time, worst than TF Legends ever was, so it's unlikely I'll ever get a "pure" epic card from this game. Has some of the same flaws as Legends, in that, the common and uncommon cards are basically worthless aside from fodder for skills or credits. Used some Moba coins and got a couple Lady Jayes, an epic Xamot, Shipwreck and a couple rare Fireflys.
Need more "rare" Joes though...

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 07:00 PM

QUOTE(Spark @ Jul 10 2013, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(FAKER II @ Jul 10 2013, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Jul 9 2013, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On top of that, several of the remaining characters have seen their regular versions done by the Club (Dial-Tone, Footloose, SAW-Viper, probably more but I'm tired). I think it would piss a lot of people off to see the regular versions as expensive, limited exclusives while retail gets the repaints.

I know there would be some bickering. But I still think that enough of us would rather have the obscure repaints at regular retail price than no figure at all given how expensive the club figures are. For instance, I would much rather have a regular Dial Tone and Law. But it isn't going to happen given how expensive they are. I'd be grateful if Hasbro released the Sonic Fighters repaints of them at retail. At least I'd have the character at a price I could afford even if it was a more obscure repaint.

Am I the only person who'd rather have new stuff at retail and for the Club to distribute the rehashes? More Data Vipers and Hazard Vipers and Shadow Trackers and whatever new Joe guys have appeared (any?), less "Beachhead now in darker tan with three more guns!".


Thing is, not only are Club prices so high as to be out of reach for a lot of collectors, a lot of us fans still remember the data breach incident and so wouldn't do business with them even if they had the money in the first place.

As a result, seeing the "original" versions of long hoped-for figures like Dial-Tone and Footloose released as Club exclusives rather than mass-market was a sucker punch a la "how Surefire and Big Brawler got their file names". (I was on the Devil's Due Publishing forums at the time. Not pretty.)

What's more, a number of the other guys, like Lifeline and the Techno-Viper, disappeared shortly after hitting shelves, leaving a lot of fans without.

With the recolors, however, that gives us fans a final chance to get these figures at prices most of us can actually, potentially afford. What's more, it would help Hasbro pad out future production waves by letting them have "new" figures and product with minimal costs. For example, Flint and Roadblock are in the spotlight right now due to the movie, and so Hasbro would likely be putting more of them out in future waves anyway; by going for Tiger Force Roadblock and Battle Corps Rangers Flint, they'll have a triple play on their hands: happy kids ("New Flint and Roadblock!"), happy collectors ("Tiger Force and BCR are getting love after all this time!"), and happy accountants ("Only a single new head mold between two new figures!").

What's more, the money saved by using redecos to help pad out individual waves will give Hasbro a little more money to spend elsewhere. For example, I'd be cool with a Tiger Force Bazooka taking a spot in a wave if it meant that, say, we could get a 1991-style Sci-Fi with full gear instead of a 1991 Sci-Fi with just his laser rifle and backpack.

Even having these things as store exclusives (like TRU or Wal-Mart) would be better than having them be Club-exclusive or just not releasing them at all. After all, most of us can get to a TRU or a Wal-Mart relatively easily and so we'd still have a fighting chance of getting our hands on them.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 08:00 PM

Quite honestly, these would do better basically anywhere but the shelves, especially at current prices. Go for BBTS box sets or something. Target the online fans, since that's pretty much all Joe's got when it comes to stuff like this.
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 08:41 PM

QUOTE(Spark @ Jul 10 2013, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Quite honestly, these would do better basically anywhere but the shelves, especially at current prices. Go for BBTS box sets or something. Target the online fans, since that's pretty much all Joe's got when it comes to stuff like this.


BBTS isn't much better, as they bundle everything into boxed sets that, like the Club figures, are simply too expensive for a lot of fans to seriously consider.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:28 PM

I'm getting the feeling "fans" in most of these cases just means "me". Sometimes a boxed set is the only way to get the less desirable characters to move in the first place.
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:49 PM

Well the best part about having those "must have" figures like Dial tone and Footloose as club incentives is that it gives people an incentive to join the club. I know I would feel bummed to have a redeco of cobra commander as a club incentive as opposed to getting a figure hasbro hasn't gotten around to. Sometimes that's going to be the way to get some of the more collector drawn stuff than to expect it at retail. The retail market just seems poor still. They can't release all of the wanted figures all of the time.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 07:43 AM

QUOTE(Spark @ Jul 10 2013, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm getting the feeling "fans" in most of these cases just means "me". Sometimes a boxed set is the only way to get the less desirable characters to move in the first place.

Pretty much, yeah. If you want a Dial-Tone that badly, nothing's stopping you from customizing one from what's available at retail, or hit a comic shop that might still have a few older figures, or scout ebay for deals to get fodder.

Plus, a lot of these, we've had new, single-carded, readily-available figures of very recently (Tunnel Rat, Airtight, Lifeline, Law & Order, Dusty, Viper, Roadblock, Ripcord, Shipwreck, Rock-Viper, Techno-Viper, Flint) with a number of others coming up in the very near future (Roadblock, Flint, Jinx) so releasing them in rather garish colors isn't a wise marketing strategy.

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#3013 Steevy Maximus

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 09:11 PM

I still find an odd disparity among Joe collectors (or even how Joe is perceived among "multi line" collectors) view of the brand:
Joe collectors have been resistant to acknowledging the fact GI Joe is NOT a thriving property, and many of the things taken for granted (like the collector focused figures and the often "lower than par" retail price) were done to try and SELL the line. And it hasn't worked. On top of that, you have the vintage RAH line, which was produced and sold in such massive quantities, many pieces remain exceptionally affordable (often more so than the modern product!).

BUT, we've reached a point where Hasbro has seemingly lost a lot of faith in the brand's ability to perform, and downsized accordingly, thus leaving the club as the only reliable venue for a LOT of potential product. But fans are used to the line being a cheap mass market item (even when catering to collector tastes, like 25th).

The fans (as a general rule) still don't view their product as "collectibles", but still want to be treated as though they are. Does that make any sense?

#3014 Detour

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 09:51 PM

Thanks to the fine folks at Raginspoon, I now have a more permanent belt for my HISS Driver:

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:27 PM

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I still find an odd disparity among Joe collectors (or even how Joe is perceived among "multi line" collectors) view of the brand:
Joe collectors have been resistant to acknowledging the fact GI Joe is NOT a thriving property, and many of the things taken for granted (like the collector focused figures and the often "lower than par" retail price) were done to try and SELL the line. And it hasn't worked. On top of that, you have the vintage RAH line, which was produced and sold in such massive quantities, many pieces remain exceptionally affordable (often more so than the modern product!).

BUT, we've reached a point where Hasbro has seemingly lost a lot of faith in the brand's ability to perform, and downsized accordingly, thus leaving the club as the only reliable venue for a LOT of potential product. But fans are used to the line being a cheap mass market item (even when catering to collector tastes, like 25th).

The fans (as a general rule) still don't view their product as "collectibles", but still want to be treated as though they are. Does that make any sense?

Well, the latest movie and its toyline seem to have reversed some of that, but I'm still of the mind that the best thing for G. I. Joe would be to basically ignore the fans, particularly the most hardcore ones. Unfortunately, since one of said fans is in charge of the brand right now, that won't happen and neither will any risks. At least, not outside of stupid ones like hacking away articulation despite multiple past experiences showing that doesn't fix anything.
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 12:02 AM

Joe desperately needs a Beast Wars level reimagining.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 12:07 AM

They tried with Renegades... But the fandom at large complained about it relentlessly, Hasbro decided not to go forward with a full toyline support and they decided not to renew it for a second season.
Just a lot of boneheadedness with what could've given Joe that much-needed breath of fresh air.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 02:09 AM

Wouldn't Extreme be Joe's Beast Wars? I wonder if things would've gone differently for that iteration if it was the same characters and story, but with more traditional toys.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:45 AM

Detour your HiSS driver is wonderful.

QUOTE(Aberration @ Jul 12 2013, 02:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wouldn't Extreme be Joe's Beast Wars? I wonder if things would've gone differently for that iteration if it was the same characters and story, but with more traditional toys.


Technically A Real American Hero or Adventure Team was G.I. Joes Beastwars, either the switch from Military to punching yetis or going from 1/6 to 1/18 scale, that shook up the brand that started in the 60s.


I'll take whatever good stuff they can squeeze out for the 4inch figures. I don't expect it to last forever.

Edited by Dr Syn, 12 July 2013 - 03:46 AM.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 06:49 AM

And what about Sigma 6? That was a pretty gross departure (toy-wise).

No, G.I. Joe just needs a way to capture the new generation. They need a TMNT-esque revolution.



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