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@  Bass X0 : (20 November 2019 - 04:14 PM)

Why has there been no new Minerva toys? I’m surprised at Takara. The Titan Master head doesn’t count.

@  Maximus Ambus : (20 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

On my shelf I have Ginrai donning the Star Convoy armor.

@  Liege : (19 November 2019 - 07:42 AM)

That he is.

@  Benbot : (18 November 2019 - 04:01 PM)

And a good boy

@  Liege : (18 November 2019 - 09:19 AM)

Hound is at least a very good toy.

@  ThunderWear : (18 November 2019 - 09:11 AM)

Hound is the only other one that even comes close to Chromia in my area, and he ships in two separate waves.

@  Liege : (18 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

This might be how they finally get rid of all the Chromias. I've not seen a shelfwarmer like that in ages.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 November 2019 - 08:26 PM)

It's a good deal if you want a full set of Refraktor (and if they have them at your location)

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 November 2019 - 04:43 PM)

Here we can buy two and get one free, but at least two of them are gonna be the same toy, because lol distribution.

@  Bass X0 : (17 November 2019 - 01:01 PM)

In the U.K., it’s more like you but two, you only get one given how expensive they are.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 November 2019 - 11:38 AM)

Transformers are Buy 2 Get 1 free at Target this week.

@  Bass X0 : (17 November 2019 - 04:29 AM)

2019 has been one long South Park episode.

@  Sjogre : (16 November 2019 - 10:46 PM)

Okay, that actually sounds pretty fun.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 November 2019 - 12:49 PM)

It was set in the forties, featured Nazi's as the villains and had Kiko fight mostly Ice Age animals and a mythical dragon that now ruled the island guarding Kongs treasure.

@  Paladin : (15 November 2019 - 11:37 AM)

and it was ALSO eleven hours long.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 November 2019 - 10:55 AM)

In a alternate reality Peter Jackson made Son of Kong.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

To be fair to boba: everyone else to go into the sarlacc was a sacrifice. Stripped almost naked and tossed, and didn't have body armor, a jetpack and a weapon.

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 November 2019 - 06:54 AM)

Nah, he just has to keep up his plot insurance payments so he can shoot his way out of the Sarlacc again.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 November 2019 - 02:59 AM)

Funny, but everyone knows he bounty hunts for Jabba Hutt to finance his 'Vette.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 November 2019 - 02:54 AM)

Okay.. Not sure why.. but streaming is harder than jsut playing the game.. even though that's pretty much what I was doing.

@  Xellos : (14 November 2019 - 06:47 PM)

What type of vehicle does Boba Fett use for time travel? A Man-DeLorean.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 03:55 PM)

Admittedly, it's been a long time since I've been to a walk-in clinic, as I tend not to get sick (and the one time I do every 4-5 years, I prefer just riding it out at home), but the last time I went I'm pretty sure you could just show up, no appointment. It may be different in Quebec,though

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:36 PM)

One thing to note about health insurance in Germany is that we have a two-class system: mandatory health insurance is basically the economy class, while private health insurance is the business class.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:32 PM)

My local doctor is actually a shared office with several doctors where you will get randomly assigned to one of the doctors available that day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:30 PM)

Also, employers are required by law to cover part of their employees' health insurance fees, so I only have to pay my part.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:28 PM)

Basic examinations and sick notes (known as "work-inability certificates" in Germany) for the employer are covered by our health insurances by default.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 November 2019 - 12:02 PM)

Around here, we can go to a walk-in clinic whenever, but might have to wait in the queue until there's a doctor available, which can take hours on a busy day. And then hope our insurance will cover anything.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2019 - 07:38 AM)

There actually are a good number of clinics around here: but the walk ins require an appointment (what?) and are only done once a week. IF you can get an appointment, you see a doctor usually within 40 minutes, but good luck getting the appointment.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

Depending on the day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

We have family doctors (called "house doctors") with regular office hours where you may need an hour or two of waiting time.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 12:50 AM)

Two weeks? That seems a little long; are there not a lot of walk-in clinics around you?

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 07:01 PM)

Does germany make it quick and easy to see a doctor too? Cause an emergency doctor visit can take two weeks out here, and an emergency ROOM visit can take 18-24 hours.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:43 PM)

(Good thing is, under German law, if you call in sick during your vacation and see a doctor immediately, you get to keep your vacation days.)

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:42 PM)

Too bad. My plans wee to do two more overtime hours before having my last day of vacation for the year on Friday. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:41 PM)

So I'm currently on medical leave for a particularly stupid reason: Burned my back with a hot-water bag while sleeping last night. Though the doctor said I'm hardly the first person to have this happen to them.

@  Patch : (13 November 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Just a particularly odious example of the 90s era of depicting transgender women as either the subject of crude humor, or "Jerry Springer" material.

@  Ashley : (13 November 2019 - 04:55 PM)

I think Ace Ventura legit contributed to me spending years in self denial. I will never be ok with Jim Carrey.

@  Benbot : (13 November 2019 - 01:22 PM)

I thought he since changed his tune.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 November 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Jim Carry Paladin?

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 November 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Don't doubt what he can do. Sonic the Hedgehog!

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 11:51 AM)

not giving a dime to a transphobic antivaxxer.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 11:25 AM)

It'll be a terrible movie if jim carrey phones it in. Otherwise it should be decent.

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 10:45 AM)

sonics' still gonna be a terrible movie but at least they whined loud enough to make him look passable for a 2-minute trailer. "yay."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:37 AM)

But of course to annoying people there's no such thing as different decisions made for different reasons, there is only "I like it so it's right" and "I don't like it so it's wrong."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:35 AM)

Even if we pretend it's objective truth that they were both bad, then they were bad in very different ways.

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Sonic's previous movie design looked genuinely bad. The Transformers '07 designs just looked insufficiently like what certain loud and obnoxious parts of the fandom think Transformers are required to always look like.

@  Otaku : (13 November 2019 - 08:50 AM)

Um... Purple Monkey Dishwasher?

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).


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#3001 Betty Nor

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 09:19 PM

I try to avoid all aircraft, Joe or otherwise. They're just too big/odd-shaped and take of up too much space.

I see people that display their aircraft on the floor next to their shelves, and I've always felt that it looked too cluttered, even for a toy display.

Short of having an entire squadron suspended from your ceiling or a huge toy room with custom shelves, they're just not that feasible to collect.

As much as I like my Crimson Command Copter, I'm going to have to part with it much sooner than other pieces in my collection.

Edited by Betty Nor, 10 July 2013 - 01:50 AM.


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 12:49 AM

Aw man, I just looked up the ROCC and RHINO, and now I wish Hasbro would make them into Optimus, Magnus, and Springer icon-screamer.gif Even more bummed that there won't be anymore crossovers now.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 01:01 PM

QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Jul 9 2013, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On top of that, several of the remaining characters have seen their regular versions done by the Club (Dial-Tone, Footloose, SAW-Viper, probably more but I'm tired). I think it would piss a lot of people off to see the regular versions as expensive, limited exclusives while retail gets the repaints.

I know there would be some bickering. But I still think that enough of us would rather have the obscure repaints at regular retail price than no figure at all given how expensive the club figures are. For instance, I would much rather have a regular Dial Tone and Law. But it isn't going to happen given how expensive they are. I'd be grateful if Hasbro released the Sonic Fighters repaints of them at retail. At least I'd have the character at a price I could afford even if it was a more obscure repaint.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 01:39 PM

QUOTE(Betty Nor @ Jul 9 2013, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I try to avoid all aircraft, Joe or otherwise. They're just too big/odd-shaped and take of up too much space.

I'd love to agree with you, but almost all my favorite vehicles outside of the HISS and its iterations are Cobra aircraft. Actually, pretty much the only vehicles I've ever bought are all Cobra. That sweet, sweet Cobra Hurricane and Mamba...

QUOTE(Aberration @ Jul 10 2013, 01:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Even more bummed that there won't be anymore crossovers now.

Eh? Why's that?

QUOTE(FAKER II @ Jul 10 2013, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Jul 9 2013, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On top of that, several of the remaining characters have seen their regular versions done by the Club (Dial-Tone, Footloose, SAW-Viper, probably more but I'm tired). I think it would piss a lot of people off to see the regular versions as expensive, limited exclusives while retail gets the repaints.

I know there would be some bickering. But I still think that enough of us would rather have the obscure repaints at regular retail price than no figure at all given how expensive the club figures are. For instance, I would much rather have a regular Dial Tone and Law. But it isn't going to happen given how expensive they are. I'd be grateful if Hasbro released the Sonic Fighters repaints of them at retail. At least I'd have the character at a price I could afford even if it was a more obscure repaint.

Am I the only person who'd rather have new stuff at retail and for the Club to distribute the rehashes? More Data Vipers and Hazard Vipers and Shadow Trackers and whatever new Joe guys have appeared (any?), less "Beachhead now in darker tan with three more guns!".
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 02:00 PM

QUOTE(Spark @ Jul 10 2013, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Aberration @ Jul 10 2013, 01:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Even more bummed that there won't be anymore crossovers now.

Eh? Why's that?

This year's SDCC Hound/Jetfire says "The Epic Conclusion!" on the box, which sounds like they're done with Joe vehicles as Transformers, sadly.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 06:45 PM

QUOTE(Dake @ Jul 9 2013, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyone playing the new GI Joe Battlegrounds? Similar but different than the Transformers game by the same folks. The artwork similarly is an odd combination of new and borrowed stuff. Some are old card-back illustrations while others are more modern updates.

Yeah, I've been playing (invite code is 7yigRr if anyone hasn't downloaded yet. I'm one Stormy away from an "impure" Epic level card!). During a lull in TF Legends I tried Blood Brothers from the same comany: it's the same game, albeit in GI Joe flavor.

A good bit more complex, and leveling up takes a LOT more time, worst than TF Legends ever was, so it's unlikely I'll ever get a "pure" epic card from this game. Has some of the same flaws as Legends, in that, the common and uncommon cards are basically worthless aside from fodder for skills or credits. Used some Moba coins and got a couple Lady Jayes, an epic Xamot, Shipwreck and a couple rare Fireflys.
Need more "rare" Joes though...

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 07:00 PM

QUOTE(Spark @ Jul 10 2013, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(FAKER II @ Jul 10 2013, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Jul 9 2013, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On top of that, several of the remaining characters have seen their regular versions done by the Club (Dial-Tone, Footloose, SAW-Viper, probably more but I'm tired). I think it would piss a lot of people off to see the regular versions as expensive, limited exclusives while retail gets the repaints.

I know there would be some bickering. But I still think that enough of us would rather have the obscure repaints at regular retail price than no figure at all given how expensive the club figures are. For instance, I would much rather have a regular Dial Tone and Law. But it isn't going to happen given how expensive they are. I'd be grateful if Hasbro released the Sonic Fighters repaints of them at retail. At least I'd have the character at a price I could afford even if it was a more obscure repaint.

Am I the only person who'd rather have new stuff at retail and for the Club to distribute the rehashes? More Data Vipers and Hazard Vipers and Shadow Trackers and whatever new Joe guys have appeared (any?), less "Beachhead now in darker tan with three more guns!".


Thing is, not only are Club prices so high as to be out of reach for a lot of collectors, a lot of us fans still remember the data breach incident and so wouldn't do business with them even if they had the money in the first place.

As a result, seeing the "original" versions of long hoped-for figures like Dial-Tone and Footloose released as Club exclusives rather than mass-market was a sucker punch a la "how Surefire and Big Brawler got their file names". (I was on the Devil's Due Publishing forums at the time. Not pretty.)

What's more, a number of the other guys, like Lifeline and the Techno-Viper, disappeared shortly after hitting shelves, leaving a lot of fans without.

With the recolors, however, that gives us fans a final chance to get these figures at prices most of us can actually, potentially afford. What's more, it would help Hasbro pad out future production waves by letting them have "new" figures and product with minimal costs. For example, Flint and Roadblock are in the spotlight right now due to the movie, and so Hasbro would likely be putting more of them out in future waves anyway; by going for Tiger Force Roadblock and Battle Corps Rangers Flint, they'll have a triple play on their hands: happy kids ("New Flint and Roadblock!"), happy collectors ("Tiger Force and BCR are getting love after all this time!"), and happy accountants ("Only a single new head mold between two new figures!").

What's more, the money saved by using redecos to help pad out individual waves will give Hasbro a little more money to spend elsewhere. For example, I'd be cool with a Tiger Force Bazooka taking a spot in a wave if it meant that, say, we could get a 1991-style Sci-Fi with full gear instead of a 1991 Sci-Fi with just his laser rifle and backpack.

Even having these things as store exclusives (like TRU or Wal-Mart) would be better than having them be Club-exclusive or just not releasing them at all. After all, most of us can get to a TRU or a Wal-Mart relatively easily and so we'd still have a fighting chance of getting our hands on them.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 08:00 PM

Quite honestly, these would do better basically anywhere but the shelves, especially at current prices. Go for BBTS box sets or something. Target the online fans, since that's pretty much all Joe's got when it comes to stuff like this.
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 08:41 PM

QUOTE(Spark @ Jul 10 2013, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Quite honestly, these would do better basically anywhere but the shelves, especially at current prices. Go for BBTS box sets or something. Target the online fans, since that's pretty much all Joe's got when it comes to stuff like this.


BBTS isn't much better, as they bundle everything into boxed sets that, like the Club figures, are simply too expensive for a lot of fans to seriously consider.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:28 PM

I'm getting the feeling "fans" in most of these cases just means "me". Sometimes a boxed set is the only way to get the less desirable characters to move in the first place.
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:49 PM

Well the best part about having those "must have" figures like Dial tone and Footloose as club incentives is that it gives people an incentive to join the club. I know I would feel bummed to have a redeco of cobra commander as a club incentive as opposed to getting a figure hasbro hasn't gotten around to. Sometimes that's going to be the way to get some of the more collector drawn stuff than to expect it at retail. The retail market just seems poor still. They can't release all of the wanted figures all of the time.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 07:43 AM

QUOTE(Spark @ Jul 10 2013, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm getting the feeling "fans" in most of these cases just means "me". Sometimes a boxed set is the only way to get the less desirable characters to move in the first place.

Pretty much, yeah. If you want a Dial-Tone that badly, nothing's stopping you from customizing one from what's available at retail, or hit a comic shop that might still have a few older figures, or scout ebay for deals to get fodder.

Plus, a lot of these, we've had new, single-carded, readily-available figures of very recently (Tunnel Rat, Airtight, Lifeline, Law & Order, Dusty, Viper, Roadblock, Ripcord, Shipwreck, Rock-Viper, Techno-Viper, Flint) with a number of others coming up in the very near future (Roadblock, Flint, Jinx) so releasing them in rather garish colors isn't a wise marketing strategy.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 09:11 PM

I still find an odd disparity among Joe collectors (or even how Joe is perceived among "multi line" collectors) view of the brand:
Joe collectors have been resistant to acknowledging the fact GI Joe is NOT a thriving property, and many of the things taken for granted (like the collector focused figures and the often "lower than par" retail price) were done to try and SELL the line. And it hasn't worked. On top of that, you have the vintage RAH line, which was produced and sold in such massive quantities, many pieces remain exceptionally affordable (often more so than the modern product!).

BUT, we've reached a point where Hasbro has seemingly lost a lot of faith in the brand's ability to perform, and downsized accordingly, thus leaving the club as the only reliable venue for a LOT of potential product. But fans are used to the line being a cheap mass market item (even when catering to collector tastes, like 25th).

The fans (as a general rule) still don't view their product as "collectibles", but still want to be treated as though they are. Does that make any sense?

#3014 Detour

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 09:51 PM

Thanks to the fine folks at Raginspoon, I now have a more permanent belt for my HISS Driver:

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:27 PM

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I still find an odd disparity among Joe collectors (or even how Joe is perceived among "multi line" collectors) view of the brand:
Joe collectors have been resistant to acknowledging the fact GI Joe is NOT a thriving property, and many of the things taken for granted (like the collector focused figures and the often "lower than par" retail price) were done to try and SELL the line. And it hasn't worked. On top of that, you have the vintage RAH line, which was produced and sold in such massive quantities, many pieces remain exceptionally affordable (often more so than the modern product!).

BUT, we've reached a point where Hasbro has seemingly lost a lot of faith in the brand's ability to perform, and downsized accordingly, thus leaving the club as the only reliable venue for a LOT of potential product. But fans are used to the line being a cheap mass market item (even when catering to collector tastes, like 25th).

The fans (as a general rule) still don't view their product as "collectibles", but still want to be treated as though they are. Does that make any sense?

Well, the latest movie and its toyline seem to have reversed some of that, but I'm still of the mind that the best thing for G. I. Joe would be to basically ignore the fans, particularly the most hardcore ones. Unfortunately, since one of said fans is in charge of the brand right now, that won't happen and neither will any risks. At least, not outside of stupid ones like hacking away articulation despite multiple past experiences showing that doesn't fix anything.
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 12:02 AM

Joe desperately needs a Beast Wars level reimagining.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 12:07 AM

They tried with Renegades... But the fandom at large complained about it relentlessly, Hasbro decided not to go forward with a full toyline support and they decided not to renew it for a second season.
Just a lot of boneheadedness with what could've given Joe that much-needed breath of fresh air.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 02:09 AM

Wouldn't Extreme be Joe's Beast Wars? I wonder if things would've gone differently for that iteration if it was the same characters and story, but with more traditional toys.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:45 AM

Detour your HiSS driver is wonderful.

QUOTE(Aberration @ Jul 12 2013, 02:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wouldn't Extreme be Joe's Beast Wars? I wonder if things would've gone differently for that iteration if it was the same characters and story, but with more traditional toys.


Technically A Real American Hero or Adventure Team was G.I. Joes Beastwars, either the switch from Military to punching yetis or going from 1/6 to 1/18 scale, that shook up the brand that started in the 60s.


I'll take whatever good stuff they can squeeze out for the 4inch figures. I don't expect it to last forever.

Edited by Dr Syn, 12 July 2013 - 03:46 AM.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 06:49 AM

And what about Sigma 6? That was a pretty gross departure (toy-wise).

No, G.I. Joe just needs a way to capture the new generation. They need a TMNT-esque revolution.



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