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@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P


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#8701 Echowarrior

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Posted 06 December 2019 - 09:27 PM

Stephen Fry is just icing on the hype cake that teaser's given us.


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Posted 07 December 2019 - 12:02 AM

finally watched season 11. chibnalls episodes were the least compelling, which is sad cause he wrote (or co-wrote) most of the season. and surprisingly there wasnt a single ep with a countdown that he wrote! the final ep seemed like a re-run of the pirate planet, what with the shrinking down of planets. but not as fun :p

 

not a terrible season, but not a great one either. merely a "that was a season of doctor who, i guess" from me


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Posted 01 January 2020 - 03:15 PM

MAJOR spoiler for season opener.

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Posted 01 January 2020 - 03:40 PM

I tried to watch it, but then I began to doze off about 15 min into the openner, it feels like nothing has really changed since I last saw an ep of this current Doctor, the characters are still bland as hell and I found myself asking, what the hell happpened to Unit?

 

I'll try and rewatch it at some point, but currently, I do not have much hope for this current Doctor or the compaions, the Doctor not really coming across as the Doctor, instead more like a character you might find in Eastenders (UK Soap oppera, dull show if you ask me)


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Posted 01 January 2020 - 03:48 PM

I'm willing to give this doctor another series, but I still think what I always thought, there are too many companions - she's not getting enough screen time 



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Posted 01 January 2020 - 03:56 PM

Unit was last shown being infiltrated by the Harmony Shoal in 'Return of Doctor Mysterio', we have had no follow up to that in the two seasons since.


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Posted 01 January 2020 - 04:02 PM

UNIT were written out in last year's special. The joke behind it being they were no longer trusted/couldn't afford to stay open due to Brexit and were liquidated by the government.

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Posted 01 January 2020 - 06:00 PM

I'm conflicted. I want to watch this but I was so bored with the last season that I can't really bring myself to watch it.



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Posted 01 January 2020 - 08:06 PM

MAJOR spoiler for season opener.

Spoiler

 

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BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!! oh my god that is so ridiculous! *dies laughing*


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Posted 01 January 2020 - 10:36 PM

I sure hope Chibnall has worked out how to properly balance the companions screentime. If Yazmin get's sidelined again, I'll be annoyed.


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Posted 02 January 2020 - 03:29 AM

So I haven't paid too much attention to trailers and stuff since they've been pretty egregious the past sssseveral years, did THAT actually happen without being spoiled to hell and back in promos and magazines and such? I'd be amazed, but haven't heard a thing.

Spoiler


Will say I'm hoping this season will have a bit less of the Doctor being surprised by literally everything though. Like, let her be a little smug once in a while, I miss that.


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Posted 02 January 2020 - 04:35 AM

Well that was fine. I really have nothing to say.

I get the feeling that Chibnall wishes that he didn't have to deal with pre-existing organizations that deal with aliens, but his scripts don't really justify getting rid of them.

 

Spoiler


Edited by Trpodeca, 02 January 2020 - 04:39 AM.

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Posted 02 January 2020 - 04:52 AM

No more Torchwood? Shoot. I was hoping for some sort of appearance by them since Chibnall created it.



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Posted 02 January 2020 - 06:33 AM

I guessed what would happen back when they were hyping the episode, but I spent the episode looking the wrong way, so well done on that. Other than that, felt like your average Chibnall, the feeling of nothing really having happened and none of the main characters really having achieved anything. Have to see how it does on a rewatch, though.

 

No more Torchwood? Shoot. I was hoping for some sort of appearance by them since Chibnall created it.

 

Technically, Torchwood hasn't existed as an agency since Children of Earth.



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Posted 02 January 2020 - 10:31 AM

So pre-Missy or post-Missy? I'm hoping it's pre so they don't wipe out the character development the character was going through.



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Posted 02 January 2020 - 10:46 AM

I'm willing to give this doctor another series, but I still think what I always thought, there are too many companions - she's not getting enough screen time 

Agreed. I'm getting the same feeling with these stories that I did with Five's run...the Doctor's relegated more to a tour guide/bus driver. I really think two Companions plus the Doctor is the sweet spot in terms of dynamic. Any more and things get crowded, any less and you fall victim to routine storytelling that will either see the Companion become The Special One or turn into nothing more than a Cheerleader.



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Posted 02 January 2020 - 11:03 AM

So pre-Missy or post-Missy? I'm hoping it's pre so they don't wipe out the character development the character was going through.

He still has his TARDIS, so that's pre-Gomez, pre-Simms, and possibly even pre-Delgado.

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Posted 02 January 2020 - 11:07 AM

 

So pre-Missy or post-Missy? I'm hoping it's pre so they don't wipe out the character development the character was going through.

He still has his TARDIS, so that's pre-Gomez, pre-Simms, and possibly even pre-Delgado.

 

 

I'm hoping it's between Simms and Gomez.



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Posted 02 January 2020 - 11:50 AM

i freakin loved the James Bond Theme moment, and that even when shes being "formal" shes still rockin' short pants and a long jacket...also, her bowtie was cool =]

 

i just found this episode to be fun as hell, and i still love her child-like whimsey, it makes me smile.


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Posted 02 January 2020 - 02:16 PM

I thought the long jacket was just the 12th Doctor's jacket.





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