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@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 08:19 PM)

I'm also only reading the trades. So I'm still missing... two volumes that are currently only available as hardcovers? Three?

@  Trpodeca : (17 January 2019 - 06:22 PM)

Astro City is great. Since I only read the trades, there probably won't be a big change for me.

@  ZakuConvoy : (17 January 2019 - 05:34 PM)

I have. Great series. Hopefully the transition to OGNs will be a smooth one.

@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 07:20 AM)

Anyone here reading Kurt Busiek's Astro City?

@  Verity Carlo : (16 January 2019 - 01:12 PM)

https://sites.google...ations---part-1awwwww shit

@  Benbot : (16 January 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Remember the Noid? He steals pizzas!

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:47 AM)

That said, the old "Nester" character from Nintendo Power IS owned by Nintendo, and I could see a homage in there

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:46 AM)

Because technically DiC created the character, Nintendo does not own him.

@  Paladin : (16 January 2019 - 10:28 AM)

sidebar- why is "Captain N" not in Smash yet? that seems like such an easy option.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 January 2019 - 09:18 AM)

The 90's mario cartoons had exactly three character aspects to work with: fat, italian and plumber. He wasn't exactly wrenching pipes in every episode, so they had to do something...

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 January 2019 - 07:31 AM)

It's in another castle.

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:24 AM)

i HOpE sHe mADe LotSA SPAGHETTI

@  Locoman : (16 January 2019 - 06:17 AM)

Mario, wherever you are, HEEEEEEEELP!

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:07 AM)

That's Mama Luigi to you, Mario *wheeze*

@  Pennpenn : (16 January 2019 - 02:24 AM)

It's too hot here.

@  Echowarrior : (15 January 2019 - 11:03 PM)

I liked the Super Mario Brothers Super Show the best myself.

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There's always the three Mario cartoons DiC made back in the 80s.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 09:48 PM)

So they could make a show that everyone would scream was an adventure time knockoff? I get what you're saying, but I can't see it being well received.

@  Sean Whitmore : (15 January 2019 - 08:47 PM)

The fact that Adventure Time was on the air for 8 years and at no point did Nintendo hand the creators a large sack of money and say, "Please make a Mario thing for us" will forever anger me.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 07:03 PM)

There was so much awesome put into design and conception of the super mario bros. movie, and it didn't even need the branding: but it wouldn't have made it to the screen without the branding.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:56 PM)

Many aspects of it have stuck in my memory, though. The boots, the devolution ray, the aesthetic of the dinosaur city

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

I had no idea there was another Mario Bros. movie coming out, though. Doubt it'll top the first one, it was just so bizarre

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

They already act a bit like minions; they just aren't stupid

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 05:35 PM)

The trouble is: I honestly can't decide if making them minions would be better or worse than the continuously shrill voices they've used for the last 20 years.

@  Paladin : (15 January 2019 - 05:27 PM)

hope everyone's ready for Toads to look, act & sound like the Minions forever...

@  Lancer : (15 January 2019 - 04:54 PM)

I mean, considering Illumination is making the new Mario movie, Super Mario Bros. 1993 won't be the worst Mario movie anymore

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 04:36 PM)

"Sir, your pizza's here." "Not now!"

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 04:28 PM)

Actually, yeah. I think I need to watch it again. Great movie.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 03:44 PM)

It's a fun movie with amazing sets. As long as you don't try to connect it to anything else Mario, it's fine.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 03:38 PM)

Damn, I haven't thought about the Super Mario Bros. feature film in forever. Need to watch it again, soon; I can only imagine it gets better with time.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Re:Zero is a fantastic series.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 03:10 PM)

Yeah it's not a bad concept, it's just that lately the term is associated with "I, a Loser Everyman, Woke Up In a Generic Fantasy Setting Where I'm Super Special So Now Girls Orbit Me"

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 12:59 PM)

So too is the old Super Mario Bros movie

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 12:28 PM)

I went and looked up the term "isekai"... that's not actually as bad as I thought it was going to be.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 12:19 PM)

I'm not sure, but the cartoon segments of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show are.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Wait. A. Minute. Is Blaster Master an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (15 January 2019 - 08:49 AM)

*Dragon Slave*

@  Xellos : (15 January 2019 - 06:22 AM)

I used to use a pic like that as my avatar for years, but that... is a secret.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 02:07 AM)

Is Flatland an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (14 January 2019 - 11:16 PM)

@Xellos Every time I see you post, I picture Xellos' infuriating smug grin and finger waggling with the "sore wa hi*mi*tsu*desu <3"

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 09:50 PM)

The Last Starfighter is also one of those

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

Astronaut gets shot through a wornhole and ends up on a living starship full of escaped alien prisoners.

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

I realized a few months ago that Farscape is a sci-fi-based Isekai.

@  Sabrblade : (14 January 2019 - 09:03 PM)

The Thor movies and Enchanted, as well.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 January 2019 - 08:45 PM)

@xellos We get to many of those in Hollywood movies.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 08:13 PM)

Re:Creators!

@  Xellos : (14 January 2019 - 07:47 PM)

There is also Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero, where people regularly get summoned to a fantasy world, then eventually sent back with their accumulated powers (and the main character smuggles the demon lord's daugher by his request, which is a no-no)

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 07:23 PM)

We need more inverse isekais, like The Devil is a Part-Timer

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 04:11 PM)

I feel like Tron is pushing it but I can't actually come up with an argument to that effect

@  Pennpenn : (14 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

To Arazyr- I don't see why it wouldn't be.


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#21 Nanite

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 06:12 PM

I'm just bitter today, and would probably agree with anything on the same wavelength.

I still don't get how everything was fixed up at the end of Wedding of River Song just like I still get hung up on the 'It's not a paradox' at the end of Big Bang.

Meanwhile, I bought 12 packs of the new wave of Doctor Who Minifigs, and got five Rory's, and two fishy vampire girls, but no River.
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Posted 14 November 2011 - 06:34 PM

QUOTE(Nanite @ Nov 14 2011, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still don't get how everything was fixed up at the end of Wedding of River Song just like I still get hung up on the 'It's not a paradox' at the end of Big Bang.


Moffat likes playing with the Temporal aspects of the character. Basically, what happened in both Season 5 and 6 was the creation of alternate time lines where certain events did not happen. In Season 5, it was in response to the TARDIS self-destructing due to outside influence (And lets face it, a TARDIS going boom would cause some serious problems in the space time continuum. Especially one that's...no longer standard issue like the Doctor's). In Season 6, it's because River did not kill the Doctor, a fixed point in time that could not be avoided.

They are Paradoxes, but not in the sense of a daughter saving a dead father or holding her younger self. If you really want to get into the Technobabble territory, it's possible the reason the Reapers don't show up to eat everything is because the TARDIS prevents them since its stint as the Master's Paradox Machine (Which created the Year That Never Was).

At the end of the day...Wibbley, Wobbley, Timey, Whimey is the simplest explanation available.

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 05:23 PM

Moffat, please stop ripping off other stories for the Christmas specials. This is starting to go beyond 'homage' and into flat out lazy copying.

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 05:57 PM

I don't know, I kind of like classic Christmas stories being retold with a Doctor Who bent. It's a huge step up from RTD's "Normal episode that just happens to be set at Christmas" specials.

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 09:26 PM

Agreed. The RTD era Christmas specials weren't exactly festive. Indeed, it often was just an excuse to get murderous robots in Father Christmas outfits. Let's see some reason for the season.

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 10:55 PM

A narnia-themed christmas special seems fun.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 02:31 PM

I consider it lazy coming from a man who did nothing but tell us how fresh and imaginative his tenure would be. The RTD specials aren't flawless but they're pretty much perfect for what they're meant to be, an extra episode that does some things you could only get away with on that one day of the year and something special for all the kids sitting down with their newly opened sonic screwdrivers and RC Daleks. I'll freely admit last year's special proved my initial doubts wrong but I really wish Moffat would do better. This is the one episode most people will see each year. What better time to showcase how original your show is?

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:05 PM

I adore last year's Christmas special. It borrowed the general theme from A Christmas Carol, but the story was wholly unique, both in terms of Christmas tales and Doctor Who. I don't have any reason to think that this year's episode will be any less creative.

Also, I've never read The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe, so I won't notice even if it is lacking originality.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 04:46 PM

Last year's Christmas Special was amazing.
I'll take that over murderous implements in festive guise. That doesn't really make it a special, you could do that at any point during the season.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 02:50 AM

QUOTE(HellCat @ Nov 19 2011, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I consider it lazy coming from a man who did nothing but tell us how fresh and imaginative his tenure would be.

Perhaps it will also be "neon" and "playskool" icon-fire.gif

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 02:57 AM

QUOTE(HellCat @ Nov 19 2011, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I consider it lazy coming from a man who did nothing but tell us how fresh and imaginative his tenure would be.


I dunno, taking a recognizable Christmas Fable and doctoring it up (No pun intended) as to avoid both copyright infringement as well as retreading the same story ground would be fresh and imaginative.

If A Christmas Carol is any indication, this latest special is only going to bear a passing resemblance to The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe. Though I admit, I'm still miffed we never got to see the Egyptian Goddess running loose on the Orient Express in Space.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 07:47 AM

QUOTE(Rust @ Nov 20 2011, 02:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(HellCat @ Nov 19 2011, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I consider it lazy coming from a man who did nothing but tell us how fresh and imaginative his tenure would be.


I dunno, taking a recognizable Christmas Fable and doctoring it up (No pun intended) as to avoid both copyright infringement as well as retreading the same story ground would be fresh and imaginative.

If A Christmas Carol is any indication, this latest special is only going to bear a passing resemblance to The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe. Though I admit, I'm still miffed we never got to see the Egyptian Goddess running loose on the Orient Express in Space.


I'm talking partly from the viewpoint of someone whose family basically only watch one episode a year, the Christmas one. So it wouldn't matter what clever ideas we see across the regular season (and to be honest, I'm one of those finding Moffat's run to generally be lacking and self indulgent), if they see that one episode clearly ripping off something else that will completely colour their view on the show for the rest of the year.

Maybe it's a cultural thing, but none of the British fans I speak to seem to expect the Christmas episodes to be 'A Very Doctor Who Christmas'. Most were quite content to get the robot santas and killer trees whilst having a story that served as a fun bonus for the yearly run and snuck in a clue to the next season for the long term fans. Really, there's no reason for Moffat to keep going back to pre-established stories to tell his own. I'd like to think a writer of his talents can do better then make Doctor Who into a show that copies other scripts whilst throwing the word 'wibbley' in.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:28 AM

I...really don't see enough in that preview to say "this will be a Doctor Who adaptation of the Narnia story". It looks more like there are a couple of winking references in the setup and a title spoof. I think you're coming at this from a preexisting stance of disliking Moffat and that's coloring your perception.
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:35 AM

QUOTE(HellCat @ Nov 20 2011, 06:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm talking partly from the viewpoint of someone whose family basically only watch one episode a year, the Christmas one. So it wouldn't matter what clever ideas we see across the regular season (and to be honest, I'm one of those finding Moffat's run to generally be lacking and self indulgent), if they see that one episode clearly ripping off something else that will completely colour their view on the show for the rest of the year.


Your complaint is baseless. A Christmas Carol didn't rip off the Dickens story. It didn't have three spirits or a Tiny Tim. It borrowed the theme of trying to redeem a miserly old man, but the story was totally original.

And yeah, what Swift said. You clearly don't like what Moffat has done, and that's fine. You can like or hate whatever you want. But you're totally making things up to try to support your point of view.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:56 AM

How am I making stuff up? Look at that trailer, look at that title. The Narnia influence couldn't be more obvious. When that's what you're producing, it goes beyond simply being 'inspired' by. I never said this would be an exact line for line copy but when you obviously lift so much from elsewhere, it isn't wrong to expect better. Moffat is an industry professional and as such I'd expect something more imaginative. Why is taking him to task for lazy writing trashing the guy with a baseless argument?

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 10:00 AM

Because you haven't even seen the episode yet, Hellcat.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 10:04 AM

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Because you haven't even seen the episode yet, Hellcat.


And that means I can't call them out for openly promoting the fact the episode is, in part, 'Doctor Who does Narnia'? I never claimed I've seen the episode, I'm just very dissapointed that under Moffat we can expect the Christmas specials to be 'Doctor Who does someone else's idea'.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 11:17 AM

I still maintain its better to get some actual Christmas Themed stories for the Christmas Special then what we got under RTD.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 11:28 AM

QUOTE(Rust @ Nov 20 2011, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still maintain its better to get some actual Christmas Themed stories for the Christmas Special then what we got under RTD.


We'll all have different opinions, obviously. Personally, I liked the fact that the RTD Christmas episodes were all just fun romps that ocurred on Christmas Day. It allowed for pay offs like the joke in Voyage of the Damned when the Doctor starts lecturing on the spirit of the season and then stops himself when he realises Christmas for him always seems to involve disaster and mayhem. Really, with a show that's about a man who lives a life outside of what the audience considers normal, the idea of a traditional Christmas special (I know, someone will say 'Flying sharks are traditional?' for one) with forced emotion and such just seems wrong. Any other show or one off special can and have given us that.

But again, we all have different tastes.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 11:45 AM

Indeed. And to be completely fair, Voyage of the Damned was humorous in the aspect that it was stated London was evacuated mainly because something bad always happens on Christmas.

Though, in regards to lazy writing, Voyage of the Damned is guilty of this just as much as the current Moffat specials are. The Poseidon Adventure parallels and all that.

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