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@  Maximus Ambus : (05 April 2020 - 01:11 AM)

Ah well, I'll stick to the classic British sitcoms: One Foot in the Grave, Til Death Do Us Part and They Think It's All Over.

@  TM2-Megatron : (05 April 2020 - 12:53 AM)

There's always the original, cheesy as it is

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (05 April 2020 - 12:10 AM)

Dunno... Tonight one of the major networks showed a movie with plagues.. including that listening to their leader causes the first born to die. ;P So nah.. I think the Stand could work. :D

@  TM2-Megatron : (04 April 2020 - 09:18 PM)

That's probably the last thing anyone needs to see, at the moment. Maybe when we get to the end of June/beginning of July and we can venture back out, it might be possible to find some enjoyment in The Stand.

@  Maximus Ambus : (04 April 2020 - 02:08 PM)

I suppose the CBS adaptation of Stephen Kings The Stand will be delayed.

@  Rycochet : (04 April 2020 - 11:26 AM)

We'll always be together. Together in electric dreams.

@  Rycochet : (04 April 2020 - 11:25 AM)

Please remember that in these times of social distancing, we'll always be together however far it seems.

@  wonko the sane? : (03 April 2020 - 12:41 PM)

It arrived! Yay!

@  wonko the sane? : (03 April 2020 - 11:25 AM)

Given how the virus lasts about 3-4 days on metals and plastics, it's about the only way to go about getting stuff right now. I ordered a monitor mount for my desk and the delivery has been pushed back twice already.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 April 2020 - 11:04 AM)

He ordered it online, says it was to keep those delivery boys in business. I did the same a week ago with some Transformers Studio Series figures off Kapow. Don't know if it's wise or not considering.

@  wonko the sane? : (03 April 2020 - 09:12 AM)

You'd be the first. Everyone else has either been frustrated cause the one they wanted was sold out (like during boxing week.) or rushing to replace something broken.

@  RYNO : (03 April 2020 - 08:53 AM)

I actually walked into a store the other day and just randomly decided to buy at 32inch TV. It was just a Vizio, and grabbed a Mounting Bracket for it. No duress. Just a spur of the moment wanted a TV for my master bedroom.

@  wonko the sane? : (03 April 2020 - 07:31 AM)

Conversely: I've never met a person who wasn't buying a TV under duress... so... yeah.

@  wonko the sane? : (03 April 2020 - 07:20 AM)

I think I've met maybe two people other than myself who count cables before buying a TV.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (03 April 2020 - 05:33 AM)

Seriously.. HDMI splitters and switches are so bloody finicky, but most tvs don't have enough inputs.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 April 2020 - 05:09 AM)

Just spent a hour trying to get my brothers new Samsung TV to read his Playstation and Blu Ray player only to find he was using a HDMI splitter.

@  Steevy Maximus : (02 April 2020 - 11:07 AM)

I could never master oral bullshittery. But in my day I was quite adept with the written word.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 April 2020 - 11:32 PM)

You have mastered the art of Bulljive. You must use this power only for good, or entertainment.

@  Sabrblade : (01 April 2020 - 08:58 PM)

This morning, for one of my online classes, I had to give a positive oral presentation about a play that I hated having to watch. I went into it completely unprepared and just winged it. My professor LOVED my presentation and thought it was excellent. She believed every word I said and honestly thought that I enjoyed that miserable play. Best April Fools ever!

@  ▲ndrusi : (01 April 2020 - 10:06 AM)

Happy Everyone Thinks They're A Comedian Now Day!

@  Donocropolis : (31 March 2020 - 05:45 AM)

Who, I might add, has never been photographed together with Byteman. Just sayin'.

@  Sabrblade : (30 March 2020 - 10:27 PM)

Bruce Wayne's cyberpunk cousin?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (30 March 2020 - 09:27 PM)

Laser Wayne

@  Sabrblade : (30 March 2020 - 09:08 PM)

Luther Unum

@  PlutoniumBoss : (30 March 2020 - 07:09 PM)

Or Lee Derwon.

@  Steevy Maximus : (30 March 2020 - 06:51 PM)

Not to be confused with Leader I

@  Steevy Maximus : (30 March 2020 - 06:50 PM)

He was Leader Uno

@  Steevy Maximus : (30 March 2020 - 06:50 PM)

He was the OTHER Leader 1

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 March 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Or Sideways.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (30 March 2020 - 05:26 PM)

On the other hand, this is Armada we're talking about. It could have actually been Metroplex.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (28 March 2020 - 11:08 PM)

Oh yeah, that was Fort Max. My bad.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 March 2020 - 09:12 PM)

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Peritus_Maximus

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 March 2020 - 09:11 PM)

Christmas Maximus?

@  Maximus Ambus : (28 March 2020 - 01:13 PM)

At least the ozone layer is healing. unless this is a 0.0000000001% thing it's sounds like good news.

@  ▲ndrusi : (28 March 2020 - 09:27 AM)

(But only pretty sure, not 100% sure.)

@  ▲ndrusi : (28 March 2020 - 09:26 AM)

Pretty sure y'all were thinking of Fortress Maximus yesterday.

@  Bass X0 : (28 March 2020 - 12:38 AM)

Dare! Dare to believe you can survive 2020!

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 March 2020 - 08:18 PM)

Baja Blast is back at retail!

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 March 2020 - 03:47 PM)

Shame he wasn't around more. He seemed like such a jolly, happy soul.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (27 March 2020 - 02:16 PM)

No, he was definitely Metroplex. You could tell because he was in Metroplex's distinctive red and green coloration.

@  Paladin : (27 March 2020 - 02:11 PM)

that was Leader-1. or possibly Jolt. maybe Grindor...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (27 March 2020 - 01:57 PM)

Metroplex was in Armada, in a flashback. He was the same size as everybody else. I thought that was the joke.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (27 March 2020 - 12:39 PM)

@Rodimus Supreme: Gah! You are right! How'd I get that mixed up? x.x;

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 March 2020 - 12:14 PM)

There is no Metroplex. Only Zuul.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (27 March 2020 - 11:13 AM)

@Tm_Silverclaw: There is no Armada Metroplex, he was in Cybertron.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (27 March 2020 - 11:12 AM)

And they'd be better off just retooling Metroplex and Fortress Maximus to be somewhat more accurate and changing/adding parts for interaction with later play gimmicks.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (27 March 2020 - 11:11 AM)

I honestly would prefer that for scale purposes.

@  Cyoti : (27 March 2020 - 11:07 AM)

They can redo all the CW combiners as Titan Class figures like Predaking/Devastator.

@  Dekafox : (27 March 2020 - 07:52 AM)

They could just redo Metroplex again too. Especially if it's going to be S3 based. They could also do another Primus to go with the coming Unicron.

@  OverDrive73 : (26 March 2020 - 10:56 PM)

If anyone is bored, or interested... I just added the last chapter to my fanfic comic in Allspark Pictures


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Gundam Discussion: The Wings of A Boy Who Killed Adolescence

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#12401 chiasaur11

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 01:02 AM

Oh gosh! Thank you! I did not know that was a thing. 

 

Yeah, I only found out the manga existed when I saw it on the shelf at a library, and only found out about the online version once I'd already bought most of the volumes for myself. 

 

They're really nice hardbound volumes with plenty of extras, but they're also way more expensive than I'd feel comfortable suggesting to a franchise newbie, so having something like this to link is really nice.

 

The Gundam Info youtube channel has a rotating selection of shows, including all of IBO, subbed and dubbed. There's also a lot on youtube that's... not as authorized, but of course I can't recommend that you go looking. 

 

Other than UC stuff, you can start with any of the Gundam AUs. (Although Turn A has a lot of callbacks to the other shows). For a quick "Which would I like?" summary...

 

G Gundam: If you want crazy martial arts and romance, this is your jam. Domon Kasshu is a jerk kung fu master with a heart of gold, sent to Earth to compete in the globe-spanning Gundam fight... and to find the mysterious man from a photograph he carries everywhere. Rain Mikamura is his longsuffering childhood friend, doctor, and mechanic, sent to help him achieve victory, which is more difficult when he's being a sullen asshole (which, early on, is common). Martial arts, conspiracies, and national stereotype mechs abound in this, the first Gundam AU.

 

Gundam Wing: Most of North America's introduction to the franchise, Gundam Wing is the story of five teenage terrorists from Space getting into fights without understanding anything about the politics they get involved in. Odds are, the viewer won't either, as everybody doublecrosses everybody, declares a teenage girl the Queen of Earth, and otherwise flails about wildly. A nostalgic favorite in the States, most new viewer recommendations treat it more as endearingly odd than great in the traditional sense.

 

Gundam X: It's the end of the world and everyone feels fine. You'd think the extinction of 99 percent of the human race would leave people bleak, but our scavenger heroes are more lighthearted than you'd expect in their quest to protect the Newtypes of Earth from those who would exploit their powers, whether the reunifying Earth government, the surviving space colonies, or a couple of psychic twin jerks. Also, there are psychic dolphins. Not localized in the US and cancelled early, X has a cult following that appreciates its sunnier-than-average attitude, but the shadow of Eva didn't ever give it a chance to make a large impression on the overall audience.

 

Turn A Gundam: My first series, Turn A is the go-to if you want a more pastoral attitude. Long after countless apocalypses, Earth has recovered to 1900s standards, and is in general a nice place to be, with lush rolling hills and plenty of cows. Unfortunately, attempts by citizens of the Moon to rejoin their brothers and sisters on Earth turn to violence, made worse because centuries of peace have left everyone pretty poorly equipped to understand war or its catastrophic consequences. Loran, an early scout for the Moonrace, attempts to bring peace using an ancient weapon known to the citizens of Ameria as the White Doll, and to history as the TURN A GUNDAM. If you want something with nice people trying to figure out how to defuse tensions (that sometimes errupt into mech fights) between distant cultures, this is your best pick.

 

Gundam SEED: Unpopular in the USA, SEED is the series that re-ignited Gundam's popularity in Japan after a long decline. If you wanted the UC, but more 2000s anime, with crude early computer-assisted animation and even more personal drama, then you're in luck. The Char and Amuro analogues even were childhood friends to add more delicious angst. Also, Kira's nice-but-unprepared attitude goes down better with some people than Amuro's frequent pigheadedness and serious PTSD. Of course, SEED's success lead to...

 

SEED Destiny: Hooboy. If you thought SEED was controversial, then you ain't seen nothing yet. Destiny was the direct sequel to SEED, and a part of why its tremendous success didn't lead to it replacing the UC as the spine of the Gundam multiverse. Starting out as the story of an angry teenager with a grudge against Kira working for last series's villains (who, three years after the initial conflict, are looking much more reasonable than the Earth forces), Destiny turns into the story of how Kira Yamato is always right, and he created his own army that's better than everyone. It has its fans, especially in Japan, but there's also a lot of people who hate it with the passion of a thousand suns.

 

00 Gundam: Moving back to the cycle of alternate universes, 00 is the child of Wing, 2000s geopolitics and the Foundation novels. Working to enforce the ideals of a Harry Seldon-like figure, a team of terrorists, lead by a middle-eastern child soldier, use their powerful Gundams to try to end global war and unify mankind, even if only by making themselves everyone else's common enemy. The first season tries to focus more on geopolitics and a wide variety of prospectives, while the second season switches to a more conventional heroes-vs-villains setup as the unified Earth government turns out less benevolent than hoped. Also, there's a movie with aliens.

 

Gundam AGE: Sucks. Which is a shame, since the idea of seeing a hundred year war through the eyes of one family, with three generations of conflict, is pretty cool. It just combines being stupid with being boring to create one of the least liked Gundam AUs. What's worse, the slight step up of the second generation is followed by the third generation's Kio, the Gundam protagonist who makes Kira Yamato look like Mikazuki Augus. That is to say, in less inside baseball terms, Kio's an insufferable pacifist, refusing to kill the enemy even when they're genocidal monsters, and attacking his own side so they won't harm the villains (causing mass fatalities among his supposed allies).

 

Gundam Build Fighters: Kids play with models. But, you know, fun. The fights are dynamic, the stakes are lowered to sports and rivalries instead of the fate of the human race, and the cast is fun and lively. The sequels may not be very good (Build Divers is terrible), but the first show is worth checking out.

 

And finally...

 

Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans: Now this is the show if you want to get some blood on your face and dirt under your fingernails. The grim and brutal story of a PMC's attempts to rise to the top, IBO replaces beams and lasers with maces and back alley executions. In spite of that, though, it's also a show that takes the time to reinforce the humanity of its cast. Their friendships, loves, stupid hijinks, and general attempts to make it through the day play off the grimmer side of the setting, making it easier to care when tragedy strikes. And it will, sooner or later. IBO also tends to space out combat, with Gundam battles only coming up every couple of episodes where most shows have trouble going 30 minutes without a fight.

 

So, yeah. Hope that's of some help.




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Posted 23 January 2019 - 01:24 AM

That's a lot of help and I really appreciate it!

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 10:59 AM

I can't say I'm surprised aside from the fact we're hearing about this from an overseas source.  I've suspected that Bandai might dip into Gundam to try and make up for the loss of Power Rangers in the west.  And that figure selection certainly supports that:

The RX-78 is the grand daddy Gundam, so that's a given for ANY new Gundam series of anything

Version of the two core suits from Unicorn, a fan favorite AND a fairly big exposure between the Youtube options and Adult Swim airings.

Barbatos was the star of the first Gundam series the west had seen in nearly a decade.

But it's the Wing suits that are interesting.  Wing is the "G1" of Gundam in the west, and seeing TWO entries at the outset feels like a play to western preferences.

 

We'll see what happens at Toy Fair, but if they don't come here, I'm certainly game for several of those like the Barbatos.  The model kit is solid, but those details are a bitch to do.

 

Looks interesting, but I would be more interested in some non-Gundam MS's, so hopefully that will be part of this line as well, and yeah that is likely.

 

You know with Hathaway's Flash coming out, this line would be perfect for representations of the Xi and Penelope for people who would like the MS's, but not want a pair of gigantic monstrosities taking up a bunch of room.



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Posted 23 January 2019 - 05:33 PM

I really advise against buying into people's elaborate preference lists. Too often I've seen it steer people wrong.

My honest advice? Check out the shows on Wikipedia and if one sounds interesting, try it. Gundam is 40 years old. Have fun picking out your own favourites, not someone else's.

#12405 ZakuConvoy

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:04 PM

My personal two cents:  If you need a nudge for a recommendation for any one series to start with, I'd probably go with 00.  It's kind of a smorgasbord of every major idea Gundam's done and it does everything it tries well.    If you can identify what you like in 00, there are probably other Gundam series we can steer you towards that have those same elements.  

 

I'll also...like tenth the recommendation for Build Fighters.  It's my personal favorite, even if it's the least Gundam-y Gundam.

 

And Iron Blooded Orphans might just be the best Gundam, from a writing standpoint.  It's not nearly as varied as 00, but it's the best at what it does.

 

I'll also give you a recommendation, a counterpoint, a warning, and a sidenote that I haven't seen anybody else mention.

 

The recommendation:

0080 War in the Pocket:  It's kind of funny nobody's mentioned this one yet.  This is easily my favorite part of the "main" Univerval Century-timeline.  It's about the length of a long movie and I feel like it's fairly newcomer-friendly, too.  Great characters in this one.  The only downside, I feel, is that it might be setting your expectations a little high from the start.  It MIGHT be best if you get a little more familiar with the Universal Century timeline before watching it, but...I think it can stand on it's own well.  

 

The counterpoint:

Gundam AGE:  I feel like this one gets a bad rap.  It's really not that bad.  I mean...it's no masterpiece, but I feel like it's middle-tier Gundam, all said and done.  It's about on par with Wing and Seed for me.  Flawed (and...I'd probably go so far to say HIGHLY flawed), but with enough interesting ideas and concepts that I think it's worth a watch, even if the execution could have been better.  Plus, it's the closest we're probably going to get to a Crossbones Gundam adaptation for...awhile, anyway.  I will definitely agree this should NOT be one of the first series you watch, but I wouldn't steer you away from watching it either...once you get a few of the better series done and are itching for more.

 

The warning:

Gundam Twilight Axis: I could have gone with a few different series for this one, but I chose this because it's the newest.  I...don't know what they were thinking with this one.  It's only a half-hour long, but it's the most disjointed thing I've ever seen.  Nice animation, mostly, but the story got butchered along the way.  Maybe it was an experiment gone awry, but...just don't spend money on it, that's all I'm going to say.

 

The sidenote:

Ideon:  If you ever decide to seriously get into the Universal Century original quadrilogy (0079/First, Zeta, ZZ, and Char's Counterattack), for the good of your sanity, try to track down the two Ideon compilation movies.  They explain SO MUCH about the original writer's personal mythology and thought processes concerning Newtypes and whats going on with the "force ghosts".  The Newtype mythology never really gets explained in Gundam proper, and Ideon is the only place I've seen that explains what the writer was going for.  I'd say watch the two movies in between Zeta and ZZ for the best effect.


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Posted 24 January 2019 - 05:26 AM

Well, I'm sure this little guy is a bit rough around the edges and could use some extra love, but he's close enough to finished that as proof of concept - will I enjoy building an actual Gundam robot instead of a cute bear - he's a startling success. I just hugely enjoyed this. Like, I have a short attention span and a lot of hobbies on the go at any one time, but I'm struggling to think of anything else that brought me this much joy recently. I always assumed building these things must be tedious, frustrating, complex. And of course I've jumped in at the shallow end. But it was simple and fun. I feel like I've had some sort of earth-shattering epiphany. Dead keen to get some more.

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 02:41 PM

Tomino comments on Hathaway's Flash:

I'm looking forward to the movie - Original author, Yoshiyuki Tomino

As the original author, I am very pleased and surprised that a novel I wrote almost 30 years ago would get a movie adaptation, let alone a trilogy. When I heard from the people involved with production that the themes in it are ones necessary for the current world, I went back and took a look, and was just stunned.

The real world may very well have regressed instead of progressed. That is why there is meaning to show these themes to the real world here and now, and this is happening thanks to the Gundam fans leading the way.
I have nothing but thanks to everyone pulling the series along.

At the same time, I can imagine that each and every one of you also wishes for the hope of the message of this work, to let the next generation pioneer the solution.

In other words, I imagine that because the generation of Gundam fans that has become adults has realised that the power of fans alone do not have the power to break the stagnation and regression of realism, they have passed it on to this work.

I believed that while there is no need for anime to be realistic, if it is something to be shown in a public place such as in a movie, it should be something that resonates widely with youths.
I believe with the generations of creators being younger, and the audience being younger, these younger generation will one day blaze a trail to the innovation of man - Newtypes.



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Posted 25 January 2019 - 05:13 AM

Two flavors of Narrative's Dijeh, for those so inclined:

https://www.gundamki...rative-ver.html

https://www.gundamki...re-msk-008.html


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Posted 25 January 2019 - 11:48 PM

New Extreme Versus 2 stuff:

 

Lightning Full Burnern

 

Knight Gundam

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And a new boss. Galvaria?

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Edited by HomelessOne, 26 January 2019 - 12:48 AM.

"The most courageous act is still to think for yourself. Aloud." ~Coco Chanel

 

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." ~Dr. Seuss


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Posted 26 January 2019 - 06:25 AM

Isn't SD supposed to take inspiration from the main line not the other way around?

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Posted 26 January 2019 - 07:01 AM

Its not the first time Knight has been real versioned. That said I got to take a photo later of my one SD outside of Star Winning.

I want to say its a mix of Knight and Wing Gundam the way his color scheme and shield looks. The thing is I have no idea what series it came from and everything I looked up when looking at such SD mergers of concepts result in other versions than the one I have.

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Posted 26 January 2019 - 07:33 AM

Real types have been a thing for SD's for a while. There have been model kits, figurines, game appearances, etc. In particular some SD lore holds that the SD MS evolved from Turn A-level nanoskin MS that became self aware and shed their bulky bodies for human sized ones.

 

Knight Gundam is particularly popular given the arc they gave him and Japanese digging feudal European stuff in the way we dig samurai stuff.



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Posted 26 January 2019 - 07:14 PM

Are there designs that originate as SD without being based on an existing Normal Dude?! Because if so, subsequently making Normal Dudes based on them is super cool. I love that there are kits based on manga-only designs as well.

What's the deal these days with 1/100 kits? Is that happening? There don't seem to be many around but I know in theory it's a thing somewhere (or has been). I'd like to try something slightly larger at some point, and I'm hoping I don't have to go to "You're Not Good Enough To Build This" Grade to do so.

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Posted 26 January 2019 - 07:42 PM

Are there designs that originate as SD without being based on an existing Normal Dude?! Because if so, subsequently making Normal Dudes based on them is super cool. I love that there are kits based on manga-only designs as well.
What's the deal these days with 1/100 kits? Is that happening? There don't seem to be many around but I know in theory it's a thing somewhere (or has been). I'd like to try something slightly larger at some point, and I'm hoping I don't have to go to "You're Not Good Enough To Build This" Grade to do so.


There is no not good enough to build this grade. It's all the same shit. The only difference is parts count. If you can remove a piece from a runner and snap it together with another piece you can make any grade of Gundam. The higher grades are actually better for people without skill because a monkey with broken fingers should be able to do it as long as they can follow pictures in a manual and it will be color correct for the most part. The only difference between a MG kit and a Lego set is having to snip parts from a sprue.
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Posted 26 January 2019 - 08:22 PM

I had actually also meant to ask whether that was the case. Ta, that's delightful and opens up my options a lot more I guess!

Is there a reasonably consistent rule regarding grade/sticker amount ratio? Or is it dictated by the needs of the individual kit rather than the "size class"?

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Posted 26 January 2019 - 09:07 PM

No.  Each kit will vary based on different factors.  My RX-78 had only 5 stickers, where as the Barbatos (first season) had double that.  Both were about the same price.

 

A general rule of thumb is that the more detailed a design is, the more stickers it has.  And if those details are done with colored parts, it will make the kit more expensive by needing more runners.



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Posted 27 January 2019 - 05:14 AM

SD history is pretty deep. There was actually a point where mainline Gundam was dying off and SD Gundam was outselling it, meaning a lot got done with it.

 

Essentially there are 3 key settings for SD Gundam.

 

Musha- Samurai themed Gundams in a techno feudal setting. Given focus in manga and model kits. These basically ran parallel to whatever main Gundam work was out at the time, turning its MS and themes into the story of the arc. These stories tend to follow bloodline rivalries and do build up some nice lore as they go. Case in point, in one arc the Gundams discover an ancient weapon which is a huge SD Gundam that transforms into a real type musha MS. They reverse engineer it and android Mushas become a component of later arcs, leading up to a plot where a villain reprogrammes them and sets them on the other Mushas.

 

Knight- Obviously themed on European knights/RPGs. Primarily told through Carddass trading cards. Opposed to Mushas humans exist in this world to, many being straight expies of existing Gundam humans (Knight Amuro, Princess Frau, etc) One of the recurring heroes of this series is Knight Gundam, who was actually a selfish Musha who was punished by the gods by being split into his good side (Knight Gundam) and his evil side (Satan Gundam). Combined they form Superior Dragon, a golden Gundam who is the guardian god of this realm (for the Musha, a similar role is filled by the Crystal Phoenix).

 

Command- Also known as G-ARMS. Whilst Musha is based on Asian culture and Knight European, this focuses on military sci-fi Gundams strongly influenced by 80s and 90s American action movies. The Gundams thus have a very more traditional anime robot military aesthetic, with various add ons and weapons. Eventually this series extended into space.

 

 

Musha Gundam reached a sort of conclusion at the end of the 20th century with the current series linking everything together and claiming every threat faced had all been the work of a dark god. This made way for Musha Maruden, a trilogy of stories which saw the Musha population spirited to 21st century Japan. This is a kind of Digimon like tale where the Mushas start off having secret battles before becoming an accepted part of human society. The same author did the next series which has SD Gundam Force in the title but really isn't connected to it. It's basically an AU of the first Musha series, where the heroes lose and their sons have to save the ruined world. Afterwards he got to go back to the Maruden setting for Musha Banchou, a series focused on newly built human and Musha schools in Japan. The idea of this is the Gundams are little kids who power up into teenage forms to fight. It's pretty kooky. The authour behind all 5 of these also loved sneaking in references to likes of metal hero tokusatsu shows.

 

After that came SD Gundam Sangokuden, a multi year version of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms story from China. This did really well in Asia and actually got a revised TV adaptation which you should be able to find with a crappy dub on YouTube. Alas the show just kind of ends 2/3 through the story.

 

Things have been very quiet since but we're apparently getting another revised take on Sangokuden this year, dealing with the kingdoms instead being corporations and a virus that turns people into zombies...yeah.



#12418 HellCat

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Posted 27 January 2019 - 06:23 AM

Apparently Divers director's concept for what Ayame's previous Gunpla looked like.

 

She was so obsessed with a sweet rack, she gave her kit one.

 

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Posted 27 January 2019 - 05:55 PM

I definitely need to try an SD kit I think.

I had somehow failed to notice how SD-Gundammy the Samurai Pizza Cats were.

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Posted 27 January 2019 - 09:43 PM

Essentially there are 3 key settings for SD Gundam.
 
*snip*

I'm still a bit disappointed that a real-form Command Gundam wasn't introduced in Dynasty Warriors Gundam, just to round out the SD-original trio.

 

Also, MG Knight Gundam when? :D

 

Apparently Divers director's concept for what Ayame's previous Gunpla looked like.

 

She was so obsessed with a sweet rack, she gave her kit one.

 

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Real Mode transformation when? :p





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