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@  TheMightyMol... : (22 August 2019 - 07:13 PM)

AK AK AKAKAK

@  RichardT1977 : (22 August 2019 - 07:08 PM)

He's a MARTIAN!

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 August 2019 - 02:35 AM)

No changes with me. To life immortal.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 August 2019 - 01:13 PM)

A French version named Eht Reht. Oh wait...

@  wonko the sane? : (21 August 2019 - 11:07 AM)

The most dangerous words in the english language: "I have money..."...

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2019 - 04:43 AM)

Zombie version, Hot Rot.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 August 2019 - 01:58 AM)

A chef version named Hot Pot.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2019 - 01:57 AM)

Does that hold true for the accent of any British Allsparkers here?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2019 - 01:56 AM)

I was reading some GoBots + Transformers discussion on Twitter and saw a British user point out that "BuggyMan" can sound like "boogeyman".

@  Otaku : (20 August 2019 - 11:28 PM)

@Sabrblade Part of me wishes I had purchased the coffee cup with that comic when it was for sale.  The rest of me knows I didn't have the money for it. XD

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2019 - 07:59 PM)

That's the Superdeformers version. He uses the MacGuffix to warm up his coffee.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 August 2019 - 07:56 PM)

A bodybuilder version named Hot Bod.

@  unluckiness : (20 August 2019 - 07:43 PM)

A psychedelic-colored repaint named Pot Rod

@  Sean Whitmore : (20 August 2019 - 07:42 PM)

Runner-up dumb idea: A Bizarro-like clone of Hot Rod named Not Rod.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 August 2019 - 06:25 PM)

One of the dumbest TF ideas I ever had: Hot Rod (by whatever means) produces a son, who is named "Go-Cart".

@  TM2-Megatron : (20 August 2019 - 06:06 PM)

In its current form, DS9 is eventually going to fade from the public consciousness. Even on modern top-of-the-line displays, those old SD masters look like trash, and there's only so long younger generations will be able to stomach them. I can only imagine how they'll look when everyone has ultra-short throw projectors casting 120" images on their walls

@  TM2-Megatron : (20 August 2019 - 06:05 PM)

It's definitely offputting, but Trek is one property I'd be willing to hold my nose and open my wallet for. I care far more about DS9 being available in the long-term, and for future generations, than my distaste for corporate greed

@  Rycochet : (20 August 2019 - 05:39 PM)

'Pay up now and fund this remaster we'll be able to profit from for decades, as this will be your only chance to get that show you like on BluRay... Until the superdeluxe re-release with even more stuff and a metal box.'

@  Rycochet : (20 August 2019 - 05:14 PM)

Stuff they're intending to remaster anyway for their streaming service would become crowdfunding projects.

@  Rycochet : (20 August 2019 - 05:09 PM)

I love DS9, but there is something offputting about giving money direct to Viacom for a project like this, probably because it would set a bad precedent. Given how moneygrubbing they are, it would quickly become their go-to solution for any old show they want remastered rather than dipping their hands in their own deep pockets.

@  TM2-Megatron : (20 August 2019 - 02:48 PM)

A crowdfunding probably wouldn't be that outrageous. The DS9 Documentary "What We Left Behind" that was recently released on blu-ray managed to raise nearly $650,000 on IndieGoGo. Imagine how much fans might contribute if it were guaranteed the remaster would happen provided the goal was reached.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 August 2019 - 04:10 AM)

Let me call on my friend Dr Rockso, the Rock 'n Roll Clown. (He does cocaine.)

@  Nutjob R/T : (20 August 2019 - 12:48 AM)

New crowdfunding project: We need to get enough nose candy for the Paramount execs to keep 'em up long enough to get DS9 squeezed out

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 August 2019 - 04:36 PM)

They're hideously cheap. I'm just glad some decision maker in the upper echelons stayed high as a kite for long enough for us to get TOS, TNG and TAS on blu-ray

@  Rycochet : (19 August 2019 - 04:16 PM)

Paramount are kinda cheap and Ds9 isn't popular enough for them to go all out on a remaster.

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 August 2019 - 03:37 PM)

Or hell, they could just shorten a season of Discovery by 2-3 episodes and that'd pay for the DS9 remaster in full (assuming the 8 to 8.5 million per episode for Discovery that was reported a while back is accurate)

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 August 2019 - 03:32 PM)

Redoing some of the more simple effects like phasers and transporters and whatnot (basically what they've already had practice doing for TNG)

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 August 2019 - 03:30 PM)

They could scan and rebuild the film elements, and then upscale the original CGI only (provided it still exists as separate footage)

@  Dekafox : (19 August 2019 - 02:33 PM)

Basically its in the same situation as DS9 IIRC with loss of models and how the CGI was applied to the existing footage.

@  Dekafox : (19 August 2019 - 02:32 PM)

Not gonna happen unless they recreate all the CGI from scratch, unfortunately. Or just upscale the broadcast masters, which would be basically pointless.

@  Maximus Ambus : (19 August 2019 - 02:16 PM)

Babylon 5 must come to Blu Ray.

@  MEDdMI : (19 August 2019 - 07:28 AM)

Even in the winter, he has to clear the roads of snow.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2019 - 03:46 AM)

His work is never done.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2019 - 03:06 AM)

Everyone quickly gets sick of flubbing the name and collectively agree to just call the combiner "Roadworks"

@  Sabrblade : (18 August 2019 - 09:34 PM)

For some reason, I've always wanted to see a "Menastator", all five Stunticons and all six Constructicons in an 11-piece combiner.

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 August 2019 - 01:35 PM)

Dunno what we'd call a Megatron combiner, we almost got a Megastator in IDW but nothing in Combiner Wars.

@  Paladin : (18 August 2019 - 01:30 PM)

somehow read that as "Megachronic." wonder if Decepticons get the munchies...

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2019 - 11:30 AM)

Skywarp can barely form a coherent sentence half the time.

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 August 2019 - 11:24 AM)

If Cyclonus combines into Galvatronus, does Skywarp form Megatronic?

@  Pennpenn : (18 August 2019 - 09:12 AM)

There's something weird about starting to type Good Omens into a media store's search bar and having it come up with Queen's greatest hits compliations.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 August 2019 - 12:07 AM)

Well then they need to re-release Vector Prime. :D Of course I would accept Vector Prime Headmaster with Alpha Trion as the head.

@  unluckiness : (18 August 2019 - 12:05 AM)

That said, the bendy sword is ridiculous.

@  unluckiness : (18 August 2019 - 12:05 AM)

I dunno, the old one is still pretty good by modern standards and the clunkiness is somewhat in-character.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 August 2019 - 08:37 PM)

We need a new vector prime

@  Paladin : (17 August 2019 - 03:59 PM)

just don't leave Cybertron Vector Prime out in the sun or his wings will melt.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 August 2019 - 03:17 PM)

@Nevermore Duly noted.

@  Rycochet : (17 August 2019 - 02:12 PM)

I have three Cybertron Vector Primes, wouldn't throw them around though. I love that design too much,

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 August 2019 - 02:03 PM)

I'm just picturing someone throwing a pile of Vector Prime toys around. I don't know why.

@  Rycochet : (17 August 2019 - 01:42 PM)

Multi Vector Assault mode is what they go into when they think anyone's even slightly infringing on their IP.

@  Ashley : (17 August 2019 - 02:30 AM)

They MIGHT have done it for Star Trek Online ships, but even if they have that'd be a fairly specific category.


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Gundam Discussion: The Wings of A Boy Who Killed Adolescence

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#12401 Steevy Maximus

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 09:14 PM

I can't say I'm surprised aside from the fact we're hearing about this from an overseas source.  I've suspected that Bandai might dip into Gundam to try and make up for the loss of Power Rangers in the west.  And that figure selection certainly supports that:

The RX-78 is the grand daddy Gundam, so that's a given for ANY new Gundam series of anything

Version of the two core suits from Unicorn, a fan favorite AND a fairly big exposure between the Youtube options and Adult Swim airings.

Barbatos was the star of the first Gundam series the west had seen in nearly a decade.

But it's the Wing suits that are interesting.  Wing is the "G1" of Gundam in the west, and seeing TWO entries at the outset feels like a play to western preferences.

 

We'll see what happens at Toy Fair, but if they don't come here, I'm certainly game for several of those like the Barbatos.  The model kit is solid, but those details are a bitch to do.



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Posted 22 January 2019 - 09:48 PM

Can't access Hulu in a sensible way here, but between Crunchyroll and Animelab we've got Reconguista, IBO, Origin, Divers/Fighters (no Try?), G, 00, Seed, and Unicorn (Re:0096), so a reasonable amount of stuff to try. 

 

The original series was smooshed into a movie trilogy, right? Is that in print in the US right now? Would much rather stream than add to my DVD piles, but I'd like a taste of the early stuff so may import physically. 

 

You mentioned that you wanted mangas online, right?

 

The first several volumes of the Origin are free on comicswalker.

 

In color, too. It's basically a revamp of the original series by the character designer, taking advantage of the fact it's not week-to-week with sponsors breathing down everyone's neck to make a more focused narrative. It's very, very good.




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Posted 22 January 2019 - 10:04 PM

Oh gosh! Thank you! I did not know that was a thing. 


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Posted 22 January 2019 - 10:30 PM

I can't say I'm surprised aside from the fact we're hearing about this from an overseas source.  I've suspected that Bandai might dip into Gundam to try and make up for the loss of Power Rangers in the west.  And that figure selection certainly supports that:

The RX-78 is the grand daddy Gundam, so that's a given for ANY new Gundam series of anything

Version of the two core suits from Unicorn, a fan favorite AND a fairly big exposure between the Youtube options and Adult Swim airings.

Barbatos was the star of the first Gundam series the west had seen in nearly a decade.

But it's the Wing suits that are interesting.  Wing is the "G1" of Gundam in the west, and seeing TWO entries at the outset feels like a play to western preferences.

 

We'll see what happens at Toy Fair, but if they don't come here, I'm certainly game for several of those like the Barbatos.  The model kit is solid, but those details are a bitch to do.

I'm definitely down for some of these too, if only to have mobile suits that I can play with without constantly worrying about breaking tiny, fragile v-fins and antennas.



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Posted 23 January 2019 - 01:02 AM

Oh gosh! Thank you! I did not know that was a thing. 

 

Yeah, I only found out the manga existed when I saw it on the shelf at a library, and only found out about the online version once I'd already bought most of the volumes for myself. 

 

They're really nice hardbound volumes with plenty of extras, but they're also way more expensive than I'd feel comfortable suggesting to a franchise newbie, so having something like this to link is really nice.

 

The Gundam Info youtube channel has a rotating selection of shows, including all of IBO, subbed and dubbed. There's also a lot on youtube that's... not as authorized, but of course I can't recommend that you go looking. 

 

Other than UC stuff, you can start with any of the Gundam AUs. (Although Turn A has a lot of callbacks to the other shows). For a quick "Which would I like?" summary...

 

G Gundam: If you want crazy martial arts and romance, this is your jam. Domon Kasshu is a jerk kung fu master with a heart of gold, sent to Earth to compete in the globe-spanning Gundam fight... and to find the mysterious man from a photograph he carries everywhere. Rain Mikamura is his longsuffering childhood friend, doctor, and mechanic, sent to help him achieve victory, which is more difficult when he's being a sullen asshole (which, early on, is common). Martial arts, conspiracies, and national stereotype mechs abound in this, the first Gundam AU.

 

Gundam Wing: Most of North America's introduction to the franchise, Gundam Wing is the story of five teenage terrorists from Space getting into fights without understanding anything about the politics they get involved in. Odds are, the viewer won't either, as everybody doublecrosses everybody, declares a teenage girl the Queen of Earth, and otherwise flails about wildly. A nostalgic favorite in the States, most new viewer recommendations treat it more as endearingly odd than great in the traditional sense.

 

Gundam X: It's the end of the world and everyone feels fine. You'd think the extinction of 99 percent of the human race would leave people bleak, but our scavenger heroes are more lighthearted than you'd expect in their quest to protect the Newtypes of Earth from those who would exploit their powers, whether the reunifying Earth government, the surviving space colonies, or a couple of psychic twin jerks. Also, there are psychic dolphins. Not localized in the US and cancelled early, X has a cult following that appreciates its sunnier-than-average attitude, but the shadow of Eva didn't ever give it a chance to make a large impression on the overall audience.

 

Turn A Gundam: My first series, Turn A is the go-to if you want a more pastoral attitude. Long after countless apocalypses, Earth has recovered to 1900s standards, and is in general a nice place to be, with lush rolling hills and plenty of cows. Unfortunately, attempts by citizens of the Moon to rejoin their brothers and sisters on Earth turn to violence, made worse because centuries of peace have left everyone pretty poorly equipped to understand war or its catastrophic consequences. Loran, an early scout for the Moonrace, attempts to bring peace using an ancient weapon known to the citizens of Ameria as the White Doll, and to history as the TURN A GUNDAM. If you want something with nice people trying to figure out how to defuse tensions (that sometimes errupt into mech fights) between distant cultures, this is your best pick.

 

Gundam SEED: Unpopular in the USA, SEED is the series that re-ignited Gundam's popularity in Japan after a long decline. If you wanted the UC, but more 2000s anime, with crude early computer-assisted animation and even more personal drama, then you're in luck. The Char and Amuro analogues even were childhood friends to add more delicious angst. Also, Kira's nice-but-unprepared attitude goes down better with some people than Amuro's frequent pigheadedness and serious PTSD. Of course, SEED's success lead to...

 

SEED Destiny: Hooboy. If you thought SEED was controversial, then you ain't seen nothing yet. Destiny was the direct sequel to SEED, and a part of why its tremendous success didn't lead to it replacing the UC as the spine of the Gundam multiverse. Starting out as the story of an angry teenager with a grudge against Kira working for last series's villains (who, three years after the initial conflict, are looking much more reasonable than the Earth forces), Destiny turns into the story of how Kira Yamato is always right, and he created his own army that's better than everyone. It has its fans, especially in Japan, but there's also a lot of people who hate it with the passion of a thousand suns.

 

00 Gundam: Moving back to the cycle of alternate universes, 00 is the child of Wing, 2000s geopolitics and the Foundation novels. Working to enforce the ideals of a Harry Seldon-like figure, a team of terrorists, lead by a middle-eastern child soldier, use their powerful Gundams to try to end global war and unify mankind, even if only by making themselves everyone else's common enemy. The first season tries to focus more on geopolitics and a wide variety of prospectives, while the second season switches to a more conventional heroes-vs-villains setup as the unified Earth government turns out less benevolent than hoped. Also, there's a movie with aliens.

 

Gundam AGE: Sucks. Which is a shame, since the idea of seeing a hundred year war through the eyes of one family, with three generations of conflict, is pretty cool. It just combines being stupid with being boring to create one of the least liked Gundam AUs. What's worse, the slight step up of the second generation is followed by the third generation's Kio, the Gundam protagonist who makes Kira Yamato look like Mikazuki Augus. That is to say, in less inside baseball terms, Kio's an insufferable pacifist, refusing to kill the enemy even when they're genocidal monsters, and attacking his own side so they won't harm the villains (causing mass fatalities among his supposed allies).

 

Gundam Build Fighters: Kids play with models. But, you know, fun. The fights are dynamic, the stakes are lowered to sports and rivalries instead of the fate of the human race, and the cast is fun and lively. The sequels may not be very good (Build Divers is terrible), but the first show is worth checking out.

 

And finally...

 

Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans: Now this is the show if you want to get some blood on your face and dirt under your fingernails. The grim and brutal story of a PMC's attempts to rise to the top, IBO replaces beams and lasers with maces and back alley executions. In spite of that, though, it's also a show that takes the time to reinforce the humanity of its cast. Their friendships, loves, stupid hijinks, and general attempts to make it through the day play off the grimmer side of the setting, making it easier to care when tragedy strikes. And it will, sooner or later. IBO also tends to space out combat, with Gundam battles only coming up every couple of episodes where most shows have trouble going 30 minutes without a fight.

 

So, yeah. Hope that's of some help.




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Posted 23 January 2019 - 01:24 AM

That's a lot of help and I really appreciate it!

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 10:59 AM

I can't say I'm surprised aside from the fact we're hearing about this from an overseas source.  I've suspected that Bandai might dip into Gundam to try and make up for the loss of Power Rangers in the west.  And that figure selection certainly supports that:

The RX-78 is the grand daddy Gundam, so that's a given for ANY new Gundam series of anything

Version of the two core suits from Unicorn, a fan favorite AND a fairly big exposure between the Youtube options and Adult Swim airings.

Barbatos was the star of the first Gundam series the west had seen in nearly a decade.

But it's the Wing suits that are interesting.  Wing is the "G1" of Gundam in the west, and seeing TWO entries at the outset feels like a play to western preferences.

 

We'll see what happens at Toy Fair, but if they don't come here, I'm certainly game for several of those like the Barbatos.  The model kit is solid, but those details are a bitch to do.

 

Looks interesting, but I would be more interested in some non-Gundam MS's, so hopefully that will be part of this line as well, and yeah that is likely.

 

You know with Hathaway's Flash coming out, this line would be perfect for representations of the Xi and Penelope for people who would like the MS's, but not want a pair of gigantic monstrosities taking up a bunch of room.



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Posted 23 January 2019 - 05:33 PM

I really advise against buying into people's elaborate preference lists. Too often I've seen it steer people wrong.

My honest advice? Check out the shows on Wikipedia and if one sounds interesting, try it. Gundam is 40 years old. Have fun picking out your own favourites, not someone else's.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:04 PM

My personal two cents:  If you need a nudge for a recommendation for any one series to start with, I'd probably go with 00.  It's kind of a smorgasbord of every major idea Gundam's done and it does everything it tries well.    If you can identify what you like in 00, there are probably other Gundam series we can steer you towards that have those same elements.  

 

I'll also...like tenth the recommendation for Build Fighters.  It's my personal favorite, even if it's the least Gundam-y Gundam.

 

And Iron Blooded Orphans might just be the best Gundam, from a writing standpoint.  It's not nearly as varied as 00, but it's the best at what it does.

 

I'll also give you a recommendation, a counterpoint, a warning, and a sidenote that I haven't seen anybody else mention.

 

The recommendation:

0080 War in the Pocket:  It's kind of funny nobody's mentioned this one yet.  This is easily my favorite part of the "main" Univerval Century-timeline.  It's about the length of a long movie and I feel like it's fairly newcomer-friendly, too.  Great characters in this one.  The only downside, I feel, is that it might be setting your expectations a little high from the start.  It MIGHT be best if you get a little more familiar with the Universal Century timeline before watching it, but...I think it can stand on it's own well.  

 

The counterpoint:

Gundam AGE:  I feel like this one gets a bad rap.  It's really not that bad.  I mean...it's no masterpiece, but I feel like it's middle-tier Gundam, all said and done.  It's about on par with Wing and Seed for me.  Flawed (and...I'd probably go so far to say HIGHLY flawed), but with enough interesting ideas and concepts that I think it's worth a watch, even if the execution could have been better.  Plus, it's the closest we're probably going to get to a Crossbones Gundam adaptation for...awhile, anyway.  I will definitely agree this should NOT be one of the first series you watch, but I wouldn't steer you away from watching it either...once you get a few of the better series done and are itching for more.

 

The warning:

Gundam Twilight Axis: I could have gone with a few different series for this one, but I chose this because it's the newest.  I...don't know what they were thinking with this one.  It's only a half-hour long, but it's the most disjointed thing I've ever seen.  Nice animation, mostly, but the story got butchered along the way.  Maybe it was an experiment gone awry, but...just don't spend money on it, that's all I'm going to say.

 

The sidenote:

Ideon:  If you ever decide to seriously get into the Universal Century original quadrilogy (0079/First, Zeta, ZZ, and Char's Counterattack), for the good of your sanity, try to track down the two Ideon compilation movies.  They explain SO MUCH about the original writer's personal mythology and thought processes concerning Newtypes and whats going on with the "force ghosts".  The Newtype mythology never really gets explained in Gundam proper, and Ideon is the only place I've seen that explains what the writer was going for.  I'd say watch the two movies in between Zeta and ZZ for the best effect.


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Posted 24 January 2019 - 05:26 AM

Well, I'm sure this little guy is a bit rough around the edges and could use some extra love, but he's close enough to finished that as proof of concept - will I enjoy building an actual Gundam robot instead of a cute bear - he's a startling success. I just hugely enjoyed this. Like, I have a short attention span and a lot of hobbies on the go at any one time, but I'm struggling to think of anything else that brought me this much joy recently. I always assumed building these things must be tedious, frustrating, complex. And of course I've jumped in at the shallow end. But it was simple and fun. I feel like I've had some sort of earth-shattering epiphany. Dead keen to get some more.

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 02:41 PM

Tomino comments on Hathaway's Flash:

I'm looking forward to the movie - Original author, Yoshiyuki Tomino

As the original author, I am very pleased and surprised that a novel I wrote almost 30 years ago would get a movie adaptation, let alone a trilogy. When I heard from the people involved with production that the themes in it are ones necessary for the current world, I went back and took a look, and was just stunned.

The real world may very well have regressed instead of progressed. That is why there is meaning to show these themes to the real world here and now, and this is happening thanks to the Gundam fans leading the way.
I have nothing but thanks to everyone pulling the series along.

At the same time, I can imagine that each and every one of you also wishes for the hope of the message of this work, to let the next generation pioneer the solution.

In other words, I imagine that because the generation of Gundam fans that has become adults has realised that the power of fans alone do not have the power to break the stagnation and regression of realism, they have passed it on to this work.

I believed that while there is no need for anime to be realistic, if it is something to be shown in a public place such as in a movie, it should be something that resonates widely with youths.
I believe with the generations of creators being younger, and the audience being younger, these younger generation will one day blaze a trail to the innovation of man - Newtypes.



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Posted 25 January 2019 - 05:13 AM

Two flavors of Narrative's Dijeh, for those so inclined:

https://www.gundamki...rative-ver.html

https://www.gundamki...re-msk-008.html


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Posted 25 January 2019 - 11:48 PM

New Extreme Versus 2 stuff:

 

Lightning Full Burnern

 

Knight Gundam

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And a new boss. Galvaria?

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Edited by HomelessOne, 26 January 2019 - 12:48 AM.

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Posted 26 January 2019 - 06:25 AM

Isn't SD supposed to take inspiration from the main line not the other way around?

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Posted 26 January 2019 - 07:01 AM

Its not the first time Knight has been real versioned. That said I got to take a photo later of my one SD outside of Star Winning.

I want to say its a mix of Knight and Wing Gundam the way his color scheme and shield looks. The thing is I have no idea what series it came from and everything I looked up when looking at such SD mergers of concepts result in other versions than the one I have.

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Posted 26 January 2019 - 07:33 AM

Real types have been a thing for SD's for a while. There have been model kits, figurines, game appearances, etc. In particular some SD lore holds that the SD MS evolved from Turn A-level nanoskin MS that became self aware and shed their bulky bodies for human sized ones.

 

Knight Gundam is particularly popular given the arc they gave him and Japanese digging feudal European stuff in the way we dig samurai stuff.



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Posted 26 January 2019 - 07:14 PM

Are there designs that originate as SD without being based on an existing Normal Dude?! Because if so, subsequently making Normal Dudes based on them is super cool. I love that there are kits based on manga-only designs as well.

What's the deal these days with 1/100 kits? Is that happening? There don't seem to be many around but I know in theory it's a thing somewhere (or has been). I'd like to try something slightly larger at some point, and I'm hoping I don't have to go to "You're Not Good Enough To Build This" Grade to do so.

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Posted 26 January 2019 - 07:42 PM

Are there designs that originate as SD without being based on an existing Normal Dude?! Because if so, subsequently making Normal Dudes based on them is super cool. I love that there are kits based on manga-only designs as well.
What's the deal these days with 1/100 kits? Is that happening? There don't seem to be many around but I know in theory it's a thing somewhere (or has been). I'd like to try something slightly larger at some point, and I'm hoping I don't have to go to "You're Not Good Enough To Build This" Grade to do so.


There is no not good enough to build this grade. It's all the same shit. The only difference is parts count. If you can remove a piece from a runner and snap it together with another piece you can make any grade of Gundam. The higher grades are actually better for people without skill because a monkey with broken fingers should be able to do it as long as they can follow pictures in a manual and it will be color correct for the most part. The only difference between a MG kit and a Lego set is having to snip parts from a sprue.
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Posted 26 January 2019 - 08:22 PM

I had actually also meant to ask whether that was the case. Ta, that's delightful and opens up my options a lot more I guess!

Is there a reasonably consistent rule regarding grade/sticker amount ratio? Or is it dictated by the needs of the individual kit rather than the "size class"?

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Posted 26 January 2019 - 09:07 PM

No.  Each kit will vary based on different factors.  My RX-78 had only 5 stickers, where as the Barbatos (first season) had double that.  Both were about the same price.

 

A general rule of thumb is that the more detailed a design is, the more stickers it has.  And if those details are done with colored parts, it will make the kit more expensive by needing more runners.





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