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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 November 2019 - 11:00 AM)

That's okay: between ever more extreme weather, ever more violent society, and general paranoia of parents: halloweens not doing to well out here either.

@  Anonymous X : (06 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

We used to have Bonfire Night here in the UK as our thing instead of Halloween... It's withered away for the most part. Halloween used to be the strange American tradition you knew of from ET or various cartoons

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 November 2019 - 06:33 AM)

So that's why I never get invited anywhere.

@  Otaku : (05 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

@Bass X0 Are we talking about the quality of the costumes or their subject matter?  The former is a natural result of cosplay growing less and less niche over the decades.  The latter isn't new; mass produced stuff is at least as old as you or I and are we sure no one dressed as a cowboy or astronaut or whatever in the 1950's?  Monsters weren't allowed at certain parties, strange as it sounds. XP

@  Benbot : (05 November 2019 - 12:23 PM)

is the quick reply broken for anyone else or is it just me?


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Gundam Discussion: The Wings of A Boy Who Killed Adolescence

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#1 mx-01 archon

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 12:47 PM

So... it kinda looks like the old thread was purged off the face of these boards. Time to start over?

I guess I'll restart by reposting yesterday's news from the Akiba Gundam Expo:

Gundam SEED revival's in full force. We already know about the updated re-releases of the HG kits, but there's lots of new stuff coming our way, too:

HG LaGowe
RG Skygrasper + Launcher and Sword Striker, plus web-shop exclusive Strike Phase-Shift Down colours.

But I think the most exciting news for me was:

MG Duel Gundam Assault Shroud!

Now that's a biggie. If they're going for Duel, there's almost no way they're going to stop at just that one. So it's a very high likelihood that we're getting MGs of all 5 GAT-X Gundams (well, 4 remaining. Unless they do a Strike 2.0 or something. Duel's frame does look a bit different than the Strike's...), which is huge.

Also, MG Blu Duel suddenly becomes a very possible reality, and that has me extremely excited.


And for you AGE fans:

MG Gundam AGE-1, due in February, with MG Titus and Spallow following closely in March and April respectively, and MG Gafran following after them in May.


Edited by mx-01 archon, 18 May 2016 - 01:46 AM.


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Posted 04 November 2011 - 12:48 PM

Well there goes my money.

It's hard to resist Duel Assault Shroud.
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 02:27 PM

Is that LaGOWE an all-new mould or just a BuCUE with new parts? I might get it, since I'm pretty fond of SEED's dog MS. I probably won't, 'cos I have enough of a backlog (not so much in quantity as it is relative to how slowly I've been building) as it is, but still... it's nice.

Also, the beta for the english version of SD Gundam Capsule Fighter has started, and it's a pretty fun game. It's in closed beta at the moment, but there's plenty of places to get keys (I got mine from their page on Facebook).

Edited by Amadeus Windfall, 04 November 2011 - 02:30 PM.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 02:29 PM

Duel w/ Assault Shroud is getting a Robot Damashii too. That's what I'm snagging.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 03:48 PM

Yeah, we've seen the Buster and Duel Damashii awhile ago, now.

Of course, Bandai has a habit of revealing all sorts of goodies that don't come out anytime soon with that line (and its sister S.H.Figuarts and D-Arts lines).


I'm also very excited for the high possibility of an MG Aegis. It's a unique and fantastic Gundam design, but the lightweight construction of the HG models tended to leave it rather floppy and unstable. A nice solid internal frame would do that design wonders, especially with some of the typical BEECraft styling to sharpen it up.

QUOTE(Amadeus Windfall @ Nov 4 2011, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is that LaGOWE an all-new mould or just a BuCUE with new parts? I might get it, since I'm pretty fond of SEED's dog MS. I probably won't, 'cos I have enough of a backlog (not so much in quantity as it is relative to how slowly I've been building) as it is, but still... it's nice.


Looks to be mostly, or completely, new. Joint parts might be re-used, and the neck is similar, but everything else about the LaGowe is different, if only from an aesthetic standpoint.

Edited by mx-01 archon, 04 November 2011 - 03:52 PM.


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Posted 04 November 2011 - 06:33 PM

Oh yeah, I got my MG Sandrock EW today.

But I think I'll wait until tomorrow to start the build, I hate when I can't finish.
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 06:44 PM

I get to pick mine up tomorrow.

Sandrock is easily my favourite of Katoki's Wing re-designs. He took the clunky and drab TV version, and turned it into something rather elegant.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 06:51 PM

QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Nov 4 2011, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I get to pick mine up tomorrow.

Sandrock is easily my favourite of Katoki's Wing re-designs. He took the clunky and drab TV version, and turned it into something rather elegant.


Yeah.

It's much better than the barely changed Deathscythe and Heavyarms, or changed for the worse Wing and Shenlong.

Plus unless you really want the stupid cloak, this MG includes all your Sandrock related needs.
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 10:25 PM

Duel was always one of my favorites, so that's cool that it's getting a MG.

RG Skygrasper with the Launcher and Sword packs is great, especially since I'm thinking of buying Strike but was dreading the thought of them releasing 2 more of essentially the same kits.

And they're re-releasing Strike without the Aile pack? Alright, I guess some people might want that.

And a De-active Phase Shift kit? I personally don't see the point of that, but I've been looking at Marvel and DC statues lately and there always seems to be B&W exclusive versions, so I guess it's just something people like.

I wish they would make a RG Strike Rouge all the customs I'm seen look great.


Are all those 144 kits ones they're re-releasing? Because I must say I own the HG Freedom kit and it is not very good, especially with a RG coming out, I mean both Wing Zero HGs have better wing movement then it and they're 6-7 years older than it.

But the LaGOWE looks really good, and Andy was a favorite of mine.


And those are some nice customs on GundamGuy, Sazabi, Freedom and Strike are my favorites.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 06:35 AM

They did the RG Strike Rouge. Was an exclusive a month or so ago, IIRC.


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Posted 05 November 2011 - 01:29 PM

I thought so, but couldn't find news on it, only customs.



-Edit- Ah there we go, I searched on GundamGuy first and only got customs, GunJap has the news on it.

Edited by Fenix Twilight, 05 November 2011 - 04:55 PM.


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Posted 05 November 2011 - 02:36 PM

RG Strike Rouge must be mine. I shall kill any who seek to deny me a unit of the limited stock.

MG Duel- I have to be honest and say I was hoping for an RG but this could work too. Duel was one of the few cases of CE taking a chance, an ancestor Gundam that ZAFT had to do significant work to to make decent. Add in that Yzak had a good character arc and this is very welcome. Certainly more then redoing a Kira unit.

RG Skygrasper- Not a complete surprise though I do have to admit the Strikers look fairly dissapointing.

MG AGE/Gafran- Dissapointed because the plan for this makes it all sound like a delayed AGE 1/100 TV run line. Why not just do that from the start rather then the awkward Gageing Builders concept? And yes, I know the cynical reason.

Legend BB- Not quite the fresh take I was hoping for but this could work. The idea of revisting solid ideas from past SD and giving them a modern update could work well if done right. Going for Knight, Musha and Commander at the start will at least have my money.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 02:45 PM



Heeeere's Quatre!

I'll probably have to go back and fix some problem areas with part fitment, but for now I'm content just to have Sandrock built and on my desk.
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 03:10 PM

QUOTE(HellCat @ Nov 5 2011, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
MG AGE/Gafran- Dissapointed because the plan for this makes it all sound like a delayed AGE 1/100 TV run line. Why not just do that from the start rather then the awkward Gageing Builders concept? And yes, I know the cynical reason.

Well, Master Grades are Master Grades, they'd be made some time anyway so why not just do them during the series? The Gage-ing Builders line strikes me as a toyline rather than being models, so I don't see any conflict there, and a gradeless 1/100 kit line would seem kind of pointless from my point of view when there's already MGs for the size and HGs for the complexity. I haven't been following the franchise during any previous series' airing, since I really got into Gundam after the end of 00, but they seem to be handling it fine as far as I can tell.
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 04:30 PM

Well at least the name rocks

I'm quite happy by the new wave of plamo news, especially the SEED MG being the Duel, considering that suit totally rocks.

also I had to glue RD wing zero's one hand onto the balljoint, it got to the point where it was not just unable to hold the gun, but the hand didn't even stay on.

thankfully, the balljoint is on a swivel joint so the hand didn't lose much mobility.

EDIT: also I have an opinion question for you all,

should I display/play with tallgeese 3's beam saber with the gun attached or removed?

Edited by Ave Destron!, 05 November 2011 - 04:36 PM.

Does anyone see City-Swimmer? Is he gliding beneath the silver water? Is he creeping 'round a corner, hugging a wall, silent as a shadow in the dark?

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 04:39 PM

The point of MGs is to be a high quality versions of designs which contain as many in story gimmicks as reasonably possible. How can you achieve this if you start making them whilst the show is still running? 00 didn't get a single MG until the show was over, with a special announcement for Exia after the final episode. If MG Exia had been made whilst the show was still running, would we have got something as cool as the Repair parts? If I buy an AGE MG, I don't want to come away feeling dissapointed because they left out something that would have been entirely possible had they waited a few months. There are tons of AGE-1s out there right now. Why not wait and really make the MG something special for fans to own to embody the iconic nature of the show?

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 04:43 PM

I'm sure bandai is fully aware of what gimmicks occur in the show.


Does anyone see City-Swimmer? Is he gliding beneath the silver water? Is he creeping 'round a corner, hugging a wall, silent as a shadow in the dark?

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 04:45 PM

If they know it all, what's the point of hiring creative teams to make the shows? Some ideas only develop once the episode is in the can. I highly doubt every single idea for AGE is set in stone right now.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 04:49 PM

They could always put any extra weapons and such in with the Titus and/or Sparrow; after all, you'd need to buy both of them to get AGE-1's gimmicks in full anyway. I can see where you're coming from, certainly, but I doubt it'll be much of a problem - especially since AGE-1 will (presumably) only be around for a third of the series.
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Posted 06 November 2011 - 08:10 AM

Interesting new ep.

Very interesting.

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