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@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 April 2019 - 11:04 AM)

Well, when you understand the history of the area it make sense. It's basically a series of countries buying the place, moving in, saying "we rule you people now", and the locals shrugging and responding, "okay, you have fun with that".

@  Sabrblade : (16 April 2019 - 07:58 AM)

When did we all turn into Henry Higgins?

@  unluckiness : (16 April 2019 - 03:16 AM)

To be fair, most Americans can't get the hang of English, so I can understand why.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 April 2019 - 03:15 AM)

(And yeah, Calliope is a Greek muse, not French, but the street was named BY the French when they took over.)

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 April 2019 - 03:10 AM)

In New Orleans there's a bunch of streets with French names that are pronounced by locals with a more English emphasis, for example "Calliope Street" is pronounced "CAL-lee-ope".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 11:56 PM)

I figured as much for Canadians.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 April 2019 - 11:37 PM)

hm; whenever I've heard people talk about the school they said it the same way as the cathedral...but I guess that's in Canada, so they're probably more familiar with the cathedral than the school

@  Dracula : (15 April 2019 - 11:11 PM)

There's plenty of place names in the US like that. Around here we have an "el doh-RAY-doh," and up north there's a Cairo that's pronounced "kay-roh"

@  RichardT1977 : (15 April 2019 - 09:56 PM)

Yeah, the common pronunciation of the University is probably the reason most Americans don't pronounce the Cathedral name correctly.

@  Arazyr : (15 April 2019 - 08:03 PM)

That's my understanding of how the two are supposed to be pronounced as well.

@  Echowarrior : (15 April 2019 - 07:42 PM)

When I'm talking about the cathedral, I say "noh-treh dahme". When I talk about the university, I say "noh-ter dayme". I don't see a problem with that.

@  Paladin : (15 April 2019 - 06:26 PM)

guessing "Hunchback" just got bumped WAY down the list for Disney's live-action remakes...

@  Patch : (15 April 2019 - 05:56 PM)

We all pronounce it wrong, so no one knows enough to care.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 April 2019 - 05:40 PM)

It'd be odd for most Americans not to know how to pronounce Notre Dame, considering they have a University with the same name that's the subject of a relatively popular film based around a sport most Americans love

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 04:22 PM)

Three or four more hours will be needed to contain the fire.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 04:22 PM)

Update from France 24: the Paris Fire Brigade says two towers and the main structure of the cathedral have been saved from complete destruction.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 03:57 PM)

One does not have to speak French to know that rhyming with "voter name" is off the mark.

@  Locoman : (15 April 2019 - 03:51 PM)

Really? It's an international tragedy and you're zeroing in on the people who maybe don't speak French?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 03:44 PM)

@Tm_Silverclaw I just read on BBC News that the cause is not yet clear, but officials suspect the fire could be linked to renovation work.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 03:42 PM)

Oh boy, here we go with the U.S.-American newscasters who can't pronounce "Notre Dame" correctly.

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 April 2019 - 03:38 PM)

Too soon to say.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 April 2019 - 03:20 PM)

Do we know if it was an attack? Arson? Or just bad wiring?

@  Nevermore : (15 April 2019 - 02:10 PM)

Religion is dead?

@  Paladin : (15 April 2019 - 02:01 PM)

major cathedral burning down on Holy Week is some kind of metaphor.

@  Benbot : (15 April 2019 - 12:54 PM)

Hard to believe a wonder of the world could just be wiped out so easily. Hopefully they can still save it

@  Benbot : (15 April 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Well, Notre Dame is burning down

@  Benbot : (15 April 2019 - 10:05 AM)

yikes I thought the site was going to be down for a while

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 09:07 PM)

So, time for another strike. No sleep for me tonight. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 09:04 PM)

Think Game of Thrones "light" meets Cabaret and you get the idea.

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 09:03 PM)

Kinda sorta, just with more intrigue, conspiracy, depravity, crime and violence.

@  RichardT1977 : (14 April 2019 - 06:37 PM)

So it's like a prequel to Cabaret?

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 04:02 PM)

And man, characters are smoking literally EVERYWHERE.

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 03:27 PM)

Also, full frontal male nudity. (There's been quite a bit of female nudity since episode 1.)

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 03:26 PM)

Episode 6, and Hitler is randomly name-checked.

@  Xellos : (14 April 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Runa runa!

@  Sabrblade : (14 April 2019 - 09:10 AM)

Wocka wocka!

@  The Doctor Who : (14 April 2019 - 06:59 AM)

Lewd

@  Paladin : (14 April 2019 - 06:57 AM)

troutstick.

@  MEDdMI : (14 April 2019 - 06:34 AM)

With a trout.

@  Xellos : (14 April 2019 - 05:44 AM)

With a stick?

@  MEDdMI : (13 April 2019 - 10:56 PM)

*slaps them both*

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 April 2019 - 07:31 PM)

Seems like a polarizing decision, but it's not like jest anyone could make it for you.

@  Xellos : (13 April 2019 - 06:06 PM)

I had an epiphany today. My spirit animal is Fozzie Bear. We both love our un-bear-able jokes, which make people feel like they are being pun-ished.

@  Nevermore : (12 April 2019 - 06:24 AM)

That's what makes the show so poignant, I think. It take a contemporary perspective, rather than a modern one. The hardships of the time aren't glossed over, but they're portrayed very stoically. Yeah, many people suffered, there was poverty, but so was life at the time. There's also a high-ranking Jewish police official who's a very by-the-books guy and supports the frail democracy of Weimar Germany. If you want to learn more about how Germany BEFORE the Period Everyone Knows About, this show is as good as it gets.

@  Nevermore : (12 April 2019 - 06:19 AM)

Because in retrospect, we (even here in Germany) tend to view the era with knowledge of what would later come, but in reality, the Nazis started out as a regional fringe movement and basically just happened to be in the right place at the right time to seize power.

@  Nevermore : (12 April 2019 - 06:18 AM)

The communists are a much bigger threat. When the Nazis appear, they will likely do so with a bang. Like, completely out of left field.

@  Nevermore : (12 April 2019 - 06:17 AM)

The show tries its best to accurately depict the zeitgeist of the era, the post-war period with a young, struggling (and ultimately doomed) democracy... but like in real life, the Nazis aren't really an issue on anyone's mind yet.

@  Nevermore : (12 April 2019 - 06:16 AM)

The female lead is a young, aspiring typist and part-time prostitute who dreams of becoming a police officer working in the murder department.

@  Nevermore : (12 April 2019 - 06:15 AM)

During his investigations, he becomes involved in political unrest, murder cases, a conspiracy of reactionary monarchists, Russian counter-revolutionaries and more.

@  Nevermore : (12 April 2019 - 06:14 AM)

@Benbot: Babylon Berlin is a film noir-style crime drama set in the German capital of Berlin in the year 1929. It features a World War I veteran turned police officer from Cologne who comes to Berlin to investigate a porn ring that blackmails his superior, the grand mayor of Cologne (who would later become the first chancellor of post-WWII Germany).


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#241 Matenshi

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 05:55 AM

I just rewatched the episode, and noticed something strange. Star Swirl the Bearded is supposedly "the most important conjurer of the pre-classical era", yet when Spike doesn't recognize him, Twilight says "Did you even read that book I gave you about obscure unicorn history?"

Star Swirl is really famous, so Spike should know him from a book on obscure history? What?

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 09:29 AM

Importance does not imply fame, though.

#243 Matenshi

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 10:08 AM

But he is famous.

"He created more than 200 spells! He even has a shelf in the Canterlot library of magic named after him."

He even gets mentioned in the Hearth's Warming Eve pageant.

I don't see how he could be considered 'obscure' in any way.

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 10:35 AM

QUOTE(Matenshi @ Dec 31 2011, 10:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But he is famous.

"He created more than 200 spells! He even has a shelf in the Canterlot library of magic named after him."

He even gets mentioned in the Hearth's Warming Eve pageant.

I don't see how he could be considered 'obscure' in any way.

Twilight is adorably geeky, this is to emphasize this part of her character: She is the kind of girl who would be excited about a classical researcher into magical sciences. The "obscure" part is just used to drive this point home.

In real life, many highly influential scientists are honored by naming parts of universities, or scientific terminology after them, but they aren?t really famous to the general public.

Everyone knows Albert Einstein, but Max Planck or Niels Bohr? Probably not so much, but they are still much better known than Avogadro, Boltzmann, Faraday, Koch, Liebig, Linn?, et cetera.

Edited by WorkbenchManiac, 31 December 2011 - 10:36 AM.


#245 Matenshi

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 10:51 AM

Guess so, but it still seems weird to me. Magic is an inherent part of life for unicorns. Does that mean the average unicorn really doesn't give a crap about magic and just uses basic telekinesis and other 'mundane' things?

...Given how people are, I guess that probably is the case. >_>

Edited by Matenshi, 31 December 2011 - 10:53 AM.


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Posted 31 December 2011 - 10:10 PM

QUOTE(Pocket @ Nov 6 2011, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had the same sorts of problems with Pinkie Pie in "Swarm of the Century". I've come to accept it as part of her character, but I have not yet come to accept it as good writing. She seems to be getting used as a token Idiot Ball holder.



Wasn't Pinkie holding the Genius Ball during the swarm, though?

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 10:17 PM

Pinkie is one of those eccentric geniuses.



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Posted 03 January 2012 - 11:28 AM

QUOTE(Matenshi @ Dec 31 2011, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guess so, but it still seems weird to me. Magic is an inherent part of life for unicorns. Does that mean the average unicorn really doesn't give a crap about magic and just uses basic telekinesis and other 'mundane' things?

...Given how people are, I guess that probably is the case. >_>


TK and their "skill" spell seems to be natural, ala Rarity never learning a find gems spell, she just did it. As you say, it's like using computers or video games for most people...they use them, but couldn't tell you the names of Babbage or Turing

(Though I agree with him being mentioned in the pagent, that makes it a bit more problematic, unless we decide that Twilight being Twilight, she added that bit of trivia to it, which I will decide, as it makes me happy).