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@  Pennpenn : (22 October 2018 - 01:57 AM)

Given that by the time we're up to in the story Functionalism had been dead for millions of years and many of the people around were made during and for the war, it's probably more likely that "sports car shaped thing" was an easy to make alt mode for expendable troops.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 09:52 PM)

maybe there's underground demolition derbies too

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 09:25 PM)

Every single sports car was one of those two jobs? Considering how many there seem to be....

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 07:34 PM)

Athletic Entertainment

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 October 2018 - 03:32 PM)

It's mentioned in one issue that Bumblebee was a courier. The only other fast cars I can remember seeing in Functionist times were Blur and a couple of Stunticons, as racers.

@  SG Roadbuster : (21 October 2018 - 12:14 PM)

i figured the sports cars were either racers or couriers.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 12:13 PM)

Upper Class. They're clearly not made for manual labor.

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 12:09 PM)

Functionism only really makes sense for certain alternate modes like mining or construction equipment; where do things like sports cars fit in?

@  Xellos : (21 October 2018 - 11:51 AM)

At least in the movies they can switch to a (similar) alt mode at will, it seems. Especially if they want to sell more toys per movie.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2018 - 10:44 AM)

They are a race of adaptive machines. Maybe they were expected to change themselves to fit the role?

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 10:06 AM)

IDW-verse discrimination still made more sense than the backstory in TF: Exodus, where everyone's caste was assigned seemingly at random with no regard for their aptitudes (altmode or otherwise)

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:55 AM)

Lost Light is good too, so far.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:54 AM)

I'm not terribly into Transformers in general, but I did mostly enjoy the More Than Meets The Eye series.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:11 AM)

Which has been in the state constitution since 1946, but was never actually executed according to documents, and is currently not in effect because the German federal constitution, which takes priority over state constitution, has banned the death penalty back in 1949.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:09 AM)

Huh. So next weekend, when the German state of Hesse will have its state election, there will also be a ballot about changing the state constitution... and one of the proposed changes will be abolishing the death penalty.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

I really need to read those comics

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:28 AM)

Up to and including the fact that certain alternate modes could end up being classified as "surplus to requirements" and systematically murdered.

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:26 AM)

And in IDW comics where it is/was literally a form of apartheid where your alternate mode pretty much dictated how you were treated by society, what jobs you could pursue, pretty much everything.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 02:24 AM)

We do get hints of that from time to time in Transformers, with stuff like some jets acting smug towards cars and whatnot.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 October 2018 - 08:10 PM)

"No shotgun of Mine is going to marry a rocket launcher" sounds like something that Targetmasters (or WFC Siege Micromasters) might say...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 08:06 PM)

The characters are actually kinda nice. Sure a bunch of them are from New Jersey, but you get a few aliens too.. But if you do that, you might want to go digital delux verisons.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:38 PM)

My only issue is that the aside from Fox, the looks of the characters are kinda bland. If anything, I'll at least get it on Black Friday, as they almost always have deals on the toys to life stuff.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 06:07 PM)

Well I can tell you, if you are going physical version because you want the toys. The Switch version has the best Ship mount as you just slide the joycons into it. The PS4 ship mount is wired. The game itself is very good in my opionion. In some ways it starts to turn into an RTS without being an RTS. You've got to start focus on keeping your planets from being taken back over. It has a LOT to do. It does have some repitive missions, because well, trying to let you level up all pilots and ships and such. The switch version -ALSO- has starfox only missions and the characters are incorporated into the story.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:03 PM)

How is Starlink anyways? Been thinking of getting the Switch version for StarFox, which is quite unusal for me, as I almost always pick the PS4 versions (favorite controller and I already have so many Trophys on it).

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:42 PM)

No shotgun of mine is going to marry a rocket launcher!

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 October 2018 - 05:22 PM)

Should they be allowed to marry outside of their own caliber?

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:18 PM)

I'm conflicted on the subject of marriage rights for shotguns.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:24 PM)

You say, "Damn it, what do you think this is, a shotgun wedding?"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:23 PM)

What do you do if someone wants to bring their concealed-carry to your American wedding?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 01:58 PM)

Benbot, I was streaming the PS4 version of Starlink

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:25 PM)

Ergo their reporting will have its own slant on the facts as they choose, not the most neutral way possible.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:24 PM)

I find it sad to realize that the prestigious New York Times which I trusted a lot as a kid in fact has its own editorial agenda.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:20 PM)

The end result is NOT that stupid bullshit gets equal coverage as reasonable arguments. That would be problematic in itself (the "false balance" bias), but the provlem is that the controversial stupid bullshit gets MORE coverage than the reasonable arguments.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

The media doesn't want to miss the opportunity to report on a controversy, and as a consequence makes sure that the controversial statements reach an audience.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

Because they realized that saying controversial shit is guaranteed to get coverage.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:16 PM)

It's the same here in Germany. Our right-wing moron party is still a political minority, yet they succeed in driving the topics the media keeps reporting.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:15 PM)

The main problem was that Trump was banking on controversy, and the media was reporting controversy because it gave them ratings.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:15 PM)

"Fairness" was not the media's main problem.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 October 2018 - 11:40 AM)

Holy fish! Second life is still a thing?!?!

@  Benbot : (20 October 2018 - 08:32 AM)

What were you streaming, Silverclaw?

@  Shrug : (20 October 2018 - 05:28 AM)

Russian interference should have been fighting an uphill battle, but as far as I'm concerned we gave them a head start.

@  Shrug : (20 October 2018 - 05:23 AM)

I disagree with Hillary being a good choice to run against Trump. Plenty of mixed feelings about her long before 2016 within our own party. When the DNC has to rig it's own primaries to get their chosen candidate running, maybe you shouldn't expect an easy landslide at the actual election.

@  Pennpenn : (20 October 2018 - 05:20 AM)

It would have also helped if the US was also an actualy democracy where the candidate who gets the most votes wins, but hey.

@  Rycochet : (20 October 2018 - 04:42 AM)

You helped destroy western democracy, but hey, at least no-one can accuse you of bias... Oh wait, they did, still do, and are going to keep doing so as long as you report facts.

@  Rycochet : (20 October 2018 - 04:39 AM)

Hillary was a good choice to run against Trump, the big problem was the media crawling all over themselves to try and push the idea of fairness, and threw her under the bus to do so. Any hint of impropriety was treated as being exactly the same as actual proven criminal acts by Trump in order to avoid being seen as biased... and at the end of it all, he turned around and bit them for doing so because that's who he is.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:37 AM)

Many right-wingers are using its name as part of our version of the term "libtards": "Left-green filthy".

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:35 AM)

It's the only of the "established" parties (it's almost 40 years old at this point) that has remained true to its principles.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:34 AM)

Meanwhile, some uplifting news from Germany: While our big parties are rapidly losing voters, and our new "we're not really extreme" right-wing party is gaining voters, there is one other party that is scoring massive points, both in polls and the recent Bavarian state election: The Green Party.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:33 AM)

I still think having Hillary run against Drumpf was a bad choice.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 03:32 AM)

Well on the bright side, we know more people voted for HIllary than the cheeto.


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Posted 16 October 2011 - 10:00 PM

Pretty damn good to. It was significantly better than all of last season save for the pilot. I hope this season is more consistent. A lot of the stuff last season felt like it was just filling time. Stuff that had little to no character development, action, or suspense. I didn't really feel like there were any wasted scenes in this one.

Edit: Oh yeah, if you missed it don't worry they seem to be showing it about a bajillion times it looks like.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 09:47 AM

A couple things:

That was awesome how they hid from the walker herd, especially hiding underneath the bodies! That was epic!

HIGHLIGHT to view:

Whats with all the dead people on the road in their cars? I thought that once you died, you re-animated? I kept waiting for one them to get bit while salvaging supplies.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:38 AM

QUOTE(ultra magnus13 @ Oct 16 2011, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pretty damn good to. It was significantly better than all of last season save for the pilot. I hope this season is more consistent. A lot of the stuff last season felt like it was just filling time. Stuff that had little to no character development, action, or suspense. I didn't really feel like there were any wasted scenes in this one.

Edit: Oh yeah, if you missed it don't worry they seem to be showing it about a bajillion times it looks like.



Well, you say that -- but all the character moments last night were only possible through the character development from last season you said wasn't there.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:42 AM

They need a campfire scene to establish them though these aren't the same characters from the comic, this lot would probably have awkward silence.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 11:38 AM

This is exactly what I was hoping the first season would be. A suspense filled character show that takes its time in telling stories. I'd be happy if they took an entire season to tell each story that's contained in one volume of the comic. The first season seemed a little rushed to me, but like Kal says they need to do a lot in the first season to establish the characters and get the audience to the point where they could do a show like this.

We showed the episode for free at our theatre and sold out our largest house - capacity 256 - with the help of the local comic shop.
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Posted 17 October 2011 - 12:11 PM

My favorite parts of the episode:

The opening talk: "The journey's been hard, and it's going to get harder, but it can't be as hard as it already has been can it?"

Such poetry has not been spoken since my 5th grade English class.

Then theres:

Lori: Carl, put the knives away.

Carl: Shane, tell her to let me keep the knives, Shane!

Shane: No, go give them to Dale now.

Lori: WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT WHY ARE YOU SO MEAN TO MY SON??!?!?! Also, I'm more mad about that than you trying to rape me.

Before that:

Old guy: "I'm going to go up on this RV and do nothing but look through binoculars but not see the zombies walking -300 miles an hour until they're like 20 yards from us."

And the ending I saw coming a mile away, and no I didn't read the comics, but I figured that would happen because people were smiling and this is basically "Crying Dead" at this point. I mean that in the sense that the writers of this show think that crying and whispering in a gravely voice as a talking voice is A++ television.

I liked the first 2 episodes of this show, but after that I can't take it seriously. It almost seems like the writing team from Season 2 and beyond of Heroes.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 12:34 PM

I started watching it, and fell asleep icon-screamer.gif I watched the entire first season, I like the show, so I'll have to be sure to watch this episode

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 12:49 PM

Mildly miffed at the show now because that ending was completely hugging unnecessary. Shock for shock's sake does not make a good plot. Seriously, what was the point of that?

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 01:01 PM

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Mildly miffed at the show now because that ending was completely hugging unnecessary. Shock for shock's sake does not make a good plot. Seriously, what was the point of that?

In the comic Carl and Sophia had become cute characters though things took a unexpected twist when Carl killed Shane who went off the deep end in issue nine he was shot and it served as a precursor to introduce more characters.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 01:18 PM

QUOTE(Aphel Aura @ Oct 17 2011, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mildly miffed at the show now because that ending was completely hugging unnecessary. Shock for shock's sake does not make a good plot. Seriously, what was the point of that?


It does play service to the story as it plays out. Just wait...

It was used in the exact same way in an issue of the comic.
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Posted 17 October 2011 - 01:19 PM

QUOTE(theEvergreen @ Oct 17 2011, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My favorite parts of the episode:

The opening talk: "The journey's been hard, and it's going to get harder, but it can't be as hard as it already has been can it?"

Such poetry has not been spoken since my 5th grade English class.


Yeah, I was like WTF?


QUOTE(theEvergreen @ Oct 17 2011, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then theres:

Lori: Carl, put the knives away.

Carl: Shane, tell her to let me keep the knives, Shane!

Shane: No, go give them to Dale now.

Lori: WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT WHY ARE YOU SO MEAN TO MY SON??!?!?! Also, I'm more mad about that than you trying to rape me.


Yeah, I thought that too, but then I just figured that she is just pissed off at him for the attempted rape that she will yell at him for anything.



QUOTE(theEvergreen @ Oct 17 2011, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Before that:

Old guy: "I'm going to go up on this RV and do nothing but look through binoculars but not see the zombies walking -300 miles an hour until they're like 20 yards from us."


I was wondering how he missed the entire herd until he saw that one.


QUOTE(theEvergreen @ Oct 17 2011, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And the ending I saw coming a mile away, and no I didn't read the comics, but I figured that would happen because people were smiling and this is basically "Crying Dead" at this point. I mean that in the sense that the writers of this show think that crying and whispering in a gravely voice as a talking voice is A++ television.


Yeah, I was figuring that he was going to get Antlered or trampled by that large deer. I know that he was looking for a sign, but that was extremely stupid.

Edited by The Predaking, 17 October 2011 - 01:22 PM.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(ultra magnus13 @ Oct 16 2011, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pretty damn good to. It was significantly better than all of last season save for the pilot. I hope this season is more consistent. A lot of the stuff last season felt like it was just filling time. Stuff that had little to no character development, action, or suspense. I didn't really feel like there were any wasted scenes in this one.

Edit: Oh yeah, if you missed it don't worry they seem to be showing it about a bajillion times it looks like.



Well, you say that -- but all the character moments last night were only possible through the character development from last season you said wasn't there.



I'm not saying there wasn't character development, action, or suspense in season one, just that there are a lot of scenes that have none of that and seem to serve no purpose other than fill time.
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Posted 17 October 2011 - 02:56 PM

Ok...I absolutely loved the first season....didn't even know it was a comic until well into the first season...read all 89 issues last month in the way of catchup...and to be honest, I found the season opener to be fairly boring.

Sure there were some attempts at character development, especially with Andrea and Rick, and less so with some of the others although still present, and I realize that character interaction is a huge part of this show, but for a season opener, especially one 90 minutes long, I expected more...
To be honest, it fell more to me like a way of intentionally trying to throw comic fans off...

Without spoilers: It seemed like they were putting situations in that were similar enough to some comic scenes that you expected certain things to happen...and then nothing did.

I still liked it but I was really hoping to see a certain HIGHLIGHT to view:
sword wielding, zombie leashing character show up...or maybe see them stumble upon a prison.

I know the show is different from the comic, which is a good thing, but if they make it TOO different it becomes a bad thing. Not talking about the last scene here...more thinking of scenes with Shane and Rick, and the church...

Oh, yeah, and what IS the deal with the bodies in the cars, anyway?...if there isn't some explanation there, that just makes no sense at all based on what we know so far...

Edited by Nebucron, 17 October 2011 - 04:11 PM.


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Posted 17 October 2011 - 05:19 PM

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Ok...I absolutely loved the first season....didn't even know it was a comic until well into the first season...read all 89 issues last month in the way of catchup...and to be honest, I found the season opener to be fairly boring.

Sure there were some attempts at character development, especially with Andrea and Rick, and less so with some of the others although still present, and I realize that character interaction is a huge part of this show, but for a season opener, especially one 90 minutes long, I expected more...
To be honest, it fell more to me like a way of intentionally trying to throw comic fans off...

Without spoilers: It seemed like they were putting situations in that were similar enough to some comic scenes that you expected certain things to happen...and then nothing did.

I still liked it but I was really hoping to see a certain HIGHLIGHT to view:
sword wielding, zombie leashing character show up...or maybe see them stumble upon a prison.

I know the show is different from the comic, which is a good thing, but if they make it TOO different it becomes a bad thing. Not talking about the last scene here...more thinking of scenes with Shane and Rick, and the church...

Oh, yeah, and what IS the deal with the bodies in the cars, anyway?...if there isn't some explanation there, that just makes no sense at all based on what we know so far...


I really REALLY hope they stay far FAR away from the later stuff in the comic. Keep that anime/(manga?) trash out of my zombie apocalypse please.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 05:48 PM

My guess is the bodies in the cars were dried out or cooked from being in there so long. They were more or less jerky.

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QUOTE(ultra magnus13 @ Oct 17 2011, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Nebucron @ Oct 17 2011, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok...I absolutely loved the first season....didn't even know it was a comic until well into the first season...read all 89 issues last month in the way of catchup...and to be honest, I found the season opener to be fairly boring.

Sure there were some attempts at character development, especially with Andrea and Rick, and less so with some of the others although still present, and I realize that character interaction is a huge part of this show, but for a season opener, especially one 90 minutes long, I expected more...
To be honest, it fell more to me like a way of intentionally trying to throw comic fans off...

Without spoilers: It seemed like they were putting situations in that were similar enough to some comic scenes that you expected certain things to happen...and then nothing did.

I still liked it but I was really hoping to see a certain HIGHLIGHT to view:
sword wielding, zombie leashing character show up...or maybe see them stumble upon a prison.

I know the show is different from the comic, which is a good thing, but if they make it TOO different it becomes a bad thing. Not talking about the last scene here...more thinking of scenes with Shane and Rick, and the church...

Oh, yeah, and what IS the deal with the bodies in the cars, anyway?...if there isn't some explanation there, that just makes no sense at all based on what we know so far...


I really REALLY hope they stay far FAR away from the later stuff in the comic. Keep that anime/(manga?) trash out of my zombie apocalypse please.



What anime stuff? Sword does not automatically equal anime.

And lol and calling a group of 30-40 zombies a herd. I'll wait for them to CG a group of hundreds.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 07:11 PM

QUOTE(C16 @ Oct 17 2011, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ultra magnus13 @ Oct 17 2011, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Nebucron @ Oct 17 2011, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok...I absolutely loved the first season....didn't even know it was a comic until well into the first season...read all 89 issues last month in the way of catchup...and to be honest, I found the season opener to be fairly boring.

Sure there were some attempts at character development, especially with Andrea and Rick, and less so with some of the others although still present, and I realize that character interaction is a huge part of this show, but for a season opener, especially one 90 minutes long, I expected more...
To be honest, it fell more to me like a way of intentionally trying to throw comic fans off...

Without spoilers: It seemed like they were putting situations in that were similar enough to some comic scenes that you expected certain things to happen...and then nothing did.

I still liked it but I was really hoping to see a certain HIGHLIGHT to view:
sword wielding, zombie leashing character show up...or maybe see them stumble upon a prison.

I know the show is different from the comic, which is a good thing, but if they make it TOO different it becomes a bad thing. Not talking about the last scene here...more thinking of scenes with Shane and Rick, and the church...

Oh, yeah, and what IS the deal with the bodies in the cars, anyway?...if there isn't some explanation there, that just makes no sense at all based on what we know so far...


I really REALLY hope they stay far FAR away from the later stuff in the comic. Keep that anime/(manga?) trash out of my zombie apocalypse please.



What anime stuff? Sword does not automatically equal anime.

And lol and calling a group of 30-40 zombies a herd. I'll wait for them to CG a group of hundreds.

A group of 30 to 40 cattle is a herd...... Anything more than 10 is a herd.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 07:17 PM

The boyfriend pointed this out on netflix over the weekend, and we watched the whole first season. Coincidentally the 2nd season premier was on the same day. So now I've sat through 7 episodes of this thing, and really the writing is not so great.

The first season started off great and had me intrigued, but it just went downhill after the first two episodes. It's hard to believe these things so easily overran the military when the small pack of main characters is able to kill any of them with the slightest thump on the head. I also don't like some of the mechanics of the zombies. Seems oddly inconsistent. Okay, so they're hungry, but they'll just patiently wait around for seemingly infinite periods of time until a plot character strolls by so they can be spooky and jump at them? Like the church scene. Are we really supposed to think the zombies just decided to sit there that whole time? And if everyone gets this horrible thrashing fever before dying and coming back to life, then they sure handled it well by sitting up perfectly straight at church in their Sunday best. I will give them credit though; the zombies in this series seem more capable than any series I've seen, which gives them more fright effect.

And as already mentioned in this thread by theEvergreen, this episode had some bad plot in it. I found myself doing a few double takes and saying, "Wait, did they really just do that?".

Really everything just feels predictable so far. Not a damn thing in this episode was the slightest bit surprising. I'm hoping this show gets better cause I want to like it, but it's getting less watchable with every episode.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 07:17 PM

I was a little dissapointed with this, I think its just a little too much drama for me. I kinda liked what the blonde girl said to Dale though, he had that coming. I don't get the deer thing at all, was the boy going to pet it?

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 07:42 PM


Hard to believe all those people would have just sat in their cars and died of thirst. And, yeah, regardless of cause, their deadness is a problem in itself.