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@  RichardT1977 : (23 February 2018 - 06:12 PM)

James Cameron doesn't have the resources to go deep enough to find THAT bar...

@  Foffy : (23 February 2018 - 05:38 PM)

it is a bar so low that it's deep underground

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 February 2018 - 03:43 PM)

Not a high bar.

@  Bass X0 : (23 February 2018 - 03:42 PM)

still a better quote than anything Trump has ever said.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 February 2018 - 03:35 PM)

Thanks, Obama!

@  Bass X0 : (23 February 2018 - 03:26 PM)

Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.

@  2018 : (23 February 2018 - 08:24 AM)

If anyone has an issue they'll revert your changes and tell you why on the wiki. If you're really bothered there's a thread on this board to ask in.

@  Plokatron : (22 February 2018 - 09:35 PM)

@2018 I'll do so ASAP then if no one minds. :)

@  2018 : (22 February 2018 - 08:38 PM)

Go change it then!

@  Plokatron : (22 February 2018 - 07:22 PM)

Also I just found a Error not listed on the Wiki for "Plus One" episode of Prime. The locomotive in said episode starts with slow puffing sounds like a steam locomotive but it is clearly a Diesel-Electric.

@  Plokatron : (22 February 2018 - 07:14 PM)

I said it wasn't recomended didn't I?

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 February 2018 - 06:54 PM)

There's still the background radiation. If all you had was a sealed helmet and an air tank, how long would you want to hang out being dosed by that?

@  Plokatron : (22 February 2018 - 06:52 PM)

Far more likely for us to boil. Since no air pressure means rapid case of The Bends. If we were aclumated slow enough we could possibly keep going with a Oxygen tank and sealed helmet. But it's not recomended.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 February 2018 - 10:49 AM)

Or a human would freeze to death if dumped out into the vacuum of outer space.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 February 2018 - 10:46 AM)

Or the left hemisphere of the brain is exclusively responsible for logic while the right is responsible for creativity.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 February 2018 - 10:45 AM)

@Pennpenn Haha, like human blood is blue without oxygen?

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 February 2018 - 10:30 AM)

That's a pretty crappy gift.

@  Robowang : (22 February 2018 - 09:45 AM)

The magic butthole fairy brought me a turd

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2018 - 07:28 AM)

Ah, the only "science fact" I dislike more than "humans only use 10% of the brain".

@  Foffy : (22 February 2018 - 01:39 AM)

According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyway, because bees don't care what humans think is impossible

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 10:22 PM)

Nothing wrong a good B movie now and then. What's bothering me is that the search on seems to work based on titles.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 February 2018 - 09:50 PM)

Not quite as bad as FilmRise's lineup, though

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 February 2018 - 09:50 PM)

Crackle is full of a lot of low budget B movies, too

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 09:47 PM)

urg. Sounds as bad as broadcast TV.

@  Shrug : (21 February 2018 - 08:24 PM)

Completely free. Has commercials inserted in awkward moments. IIRC they tend to slot some in right before the credits. So, show ends. Buffers. Commercials. Buffers. Credits. Buffers. Intro to next show. Buffers. Commercials. Buffers.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 07:50 PM)

crackle is actually free too? I was oddly leary of that one for some reason, but couldn't find any proof it was pay.

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 February 2018 - 07:38 PM)

They ARE an official content licensor, not "one of those other free sites"

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 February 2018 - 07:37 PM)

One of several free VOD sites/apps that are ad supported. I think Tubi is Paramount. Similar to Crackle, which is owned by Sony

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 February 2018 - 06:51 PM)

what is Tubi tv?

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 06:01 PM)

And there's an android app! Sweet!

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 05:57 PM)

oohhh, thanks for the heads up. Seems like lots of decent stuff on there too. Bookmarked.

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 February 2018 - 05:07 PM)

So, I guess Tubi TV got some deal with Hasbro. They got the entire Transformers saga through Animated...minus Beast Wars for some reason.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2018 - 05:06 PM)

To be fair, if the TF Wiki split a new character page every time a story diverged from previous material, it would spiral ludicrously out of control.

@  ZakuConvoy : (21 February 2018 - 05:01 PM)

It's not a 1 to 1 situation, but it's the closest I can really come up with on the spot. Transformers is kind of different that way.

@  ZakuConvoy : (21 February 2018 - 04:59 PM)

No, but they do put the (trigger warning) pre-Mephisto Spider-Man in with the current Spider-Man. Not to mention Miles Morales's whole deal.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 February 2018 - 04:49 PM)

I mostly meant how Marvel wiki doesn't put say, '80s cartoon Spider-Man as a sub-page of 616 Spider-Man.

@  Shrug : (21 February 2018 - 04:48 PM)

I guess I don't talk to enough Marvel fans.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 February 2018 - 04:47 PM)

Those are still events pertaining to a specific Superman. Not really comparable to how all the G1 Scorponoks are on the same page despite having very different traits and origins, with no retcons attempting to reconcile them.

@  ZakuConvoy : (21 February 2018 - 04:45 PM)

Well, that's kind of what happens with DC comics characters, too. Stories that happened to Pre-Flashpoint Superman, like Doomsday, are still treated like they happened to the current Superman, even if that causes continuity problems, for example.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 February 2018 - 04:42 PM)

If Marvel characters were treated like TF, then a bunch of cartoon and video game versions would be lumped with their main universe counterparts because of similar designs.

@  Shrug : (21 February 2018 - 04:39 PM)

I'd say we treat TF like comic book fans treat Marvel/DC characters. Hasbro doesn't though.

@  ZakuConvoy : (21 February 2018 - 04:36 PM)

I think the closest comparison with how we treat TF characters, that I can think of, is DC comic characters. Sort of.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 February 2018 - 02:47 PM)

There's been a few statements from Hasbro people suggesting that they don't make that kind of distinction between G1 and otherwise as far as characters go. Like whatever somebody said about Magnus Prime's identity.

@  Bass X0 : (21 February 2018 - 02:45 PM)

The IDW comics are the old characters in a new continuity, even if sometimes they don't act the same as they used to. War For Cybertron could have been the G1 characters in a new continuity but Hasbro said no. Whereas the Devastation game is the G1 characters in a new continuity.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 February 2018 - 11:10 AM)

I think it's worth keeping in mind that the TF fandom's definition of same character isn't really used elsewhere.

@  Boomhauer : (21 February 2018 - 11:09 AM)

For what it's worth, the character blurb bios in that one kid's book matched the ones in Aligned, but that could just be a matter of "Hasbro isn't going to let a expensive 600 page story bible go to waste so it keeps being referenced" instead of proof it's an Aligned story.

@  Gryllid : (21 February 2018 - 08:57 AM)

But like, if we say "G1 Soundwave", are the cartoon, comic, and toy bio really all the same character in a way that Aligned Soundwave isn't?

@  Gryllid : (21 February 2018 - 08:57 AM)

I'm not even sure how we'd tell the difference between "G1 characters in a new continuity" and "new characters who look like the G1 characters". Maybe it's sort of a philosophical thing.

@  Nevermore : (21 February 2018 - 04:54 AM)

If you ask Hasbro, Cyberverse is about the Transformers characters.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 February 2018 - 10:09 PM)

We don't really know yet. It could be an amalgamation of things.


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Posted 16 October 2011 - 10:00 PM

Pretty damn good to. It was significantly better than all of last season save for the pilot. I hope this season is more consistent. A lot of the stuff last season felt like it was just filling time. Stuff that had little to no character development, action, or suspense. I didn't really feel like there were any wasted scenes in this one.

Edit: Oh yeah, if you missed it don't worry they seem to be showing it about a bajillion times it looks like.

Edited by ultra magnus13, 16 October 2011 - 10:06 PM.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 09:47 AM

A couple things:

That was awesome how they hid from the walker herd, especially hiding underneath the bodies! That was epic!

HIGHLIGHT to view:

Whats with all the dead people on the road in their cars? I thought that once you died, you re-animated? I kept waiting for one them to get bit while salvaging supplies.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:38 AM

QUOTE(ultra magnus13 @ Oct 16 2011, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pretty damn good to. It was significantly better than all of last season save for the pilot. I hope this season is more consistent. A lot of the stuff last season felt like it was just filling time. Stuff that had little to no character development, action, or suspense. I didn't really feel like there were any wasted scenes in this one.

Edit: Oh yeah, if you missed it don't worry they seem to be showing it about a bajillion times it looks like.



Well, you say that -- but all the character moments last night were only possible through the character development from last season you said wasn't there.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:42 AM

They need a campfire scene to establish them though these aren't the same characters from the comic, this lot would probably have awkward silence.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 11:38 AM

This is exactly what I was hoping the first season would be. A suspense filled character show that takes its time in telling stories. I'd be happy if they took an entire season to tell each story that's contained in one volume of the comic. The first season seemed a little rushed to me, but like Kal says they need to do a lot in the first season to establish the characters and get the audience to the point where they could do a show like this.

We showed the episode for free at our theatre and sold out our largest house - capacity 256 - with the help of the local comic shop.
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Posted 17 October 2011 - 12:11 PM

My favorite parts of the episode:

The opening talk: "The journey's been hard, and it's going to get harder, but it can't be as hard as it already has been can it?"

Such poetry has not been spoken since my 5th grade English class.

Then theres:

Lori: Carl, put the knives away.

Carl: Shane, tell her to let me keep the knives, Shane!

Shane: No, go give them to Dale now.

Lori: WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT WHY ARE YOU SO MEAN TO MY SON??!?!?! Also, I'm more mad about that than you trying to rape me.

Before that:

Old guy: "I'm going to go up on this RV and do nothing but look through binoculars but not see the zombies walking -300 miles an hour until they're like 20 yards from us."

And the ending I saw coming a mile away, and no I didn't read the comics, but I figured that would happen because people were smiling and this is basically "Crying Dead" at this point. I mean that in the sense that the writers of this show think that crying and whispering in a gravely voice as a talking voice is A++ television.

I liked the first 2 episodes of this show, but after that I can't take it seriously. It almost seems like the writing team from Season 2 and beyond of Heroes.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 12:34 PM

I started watching it, and fell asleep icon-screamer.gif I watched the entire first season, I like the show, so I'll have to be sure to watch this episode

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 12:49 PM

Mildly miffed at the show now because that ending was completely hugging unnecessary. Shock for shock's sake does not make a good plot. Seriously, what was the point of that?

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 01:01 PM

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Mildly miffed at the show now because that ending was completely hugging unnecessary. Shock for shock's sake does not make a good plot. Seriously, what was the point of that?

In the comic Carl and Sophia had become cute characters though things took a unexpected twist when Carl killed Shane who went off the deep end in issue nine he was shot and it served as a precursor to introduce more characters.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 01:18 PM

QUOTE(Aphel Aura @ Oct 17 2011, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mildly miffed at the show now because that ending was completely hugging unnecessary. Shock for shock's sake does not make a good plot. Seriously, what was the point of that?


It does play service to the story as it plays out. Just wait...

It was used in the exact same way in an issue of the comic.
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Posted 17 October 2011 - 01:19 PM

QUOTE(theEvergreen @ Oct 17 2011, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My favorite parts of the episode:

The opening talk: "The journey's been hard, and it's going to get harder, but it can't be as hard as it already has been can it?"

Such poetry has not been spoken since my 5th grade English class.


Yeah, I was like WTF?


QUOTE(theEvergreen @ Oct 17 2011, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then theres:

Lori: Carl, put the knives away.

Carl: Shane, tell her to let me keep the knives, Shane!

Shane: No, go give them to Dale now.

Lori: WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT WHY ARE YOU SO MEAN TO MY SON??!?!?! Also, I'm more mad about that than you trying to rape me.


Yeah, I thought that too, but then I just figured that she is just pissed off at him for the attempted rape that she will yell at him for anything.



QUOTE(theEvergreen @ Oct 17 2011, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Before that:

Old guy: "I'm going to go up on this RV and do nothing but look through binoculars but not see the zombies walking -300 miles an hour until they're like 20 yards from us."


I was wondering how he missed the entire herd until he saw that one.


QUOTE(theEvergreen @ Oct 17 2011, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And the ending I saw coming a mile away, and no I didn't read the comics, but I figured that would happen because people were smiling and this is basically "Crying Dead" at this point. I mean that in the sense that the writers of this show think that crying and whispering in a gravely voice as a talking voice is A++ television.


Yeah, I was figuring that he was going to get Antlered or trampled by that large deer. I know that he was looking for a sign, but that was extremely stupid.

Edited by The Predaking, 17 October 2011 - 01:22 PM.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(ultra magnus13 @ Oct 16 2011, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pretty damn good to. It was significantly better than all of last season save for the pilot. I hope this season is more consistent. A lot of the stuff last season felt like it was just filling time. Stuff that had little to no character development, action, or suspense. I didn't really feel like there were any wasted scenes in this one.

Edit: Oh yeah, if you missed it don't worry they seem to be showing it about a bajillion times it looks like.



Well, you say that -- but all the character moments last night were only possible through the character development from last season you said wasn't there.



I'm not saying there wasn't character development, action, or suspense in season one, just that there are a lot of scenes that have none of that and seem to serve no purpose other than fill time.
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Posted 17 October 2011 - 02:56 PM

Ok...I absolutely loved the first season....didn't even know it was a comic until well into the first season...read all 89 issues last month in the way of catchup...and to be honest, I found the season opener to be fairly boring.

Sure there were some attempts at character development, especially with Andrea and Rick, and less so with some of the others although still present, and I realize that character interaction is a huge part of this show, but for a season opener, especially one 90 minutes long, I expected more...
To be honest, it fell more to me like a way of intentionally trying to throw comic fans off...

Without spoilers: It seemed like they were putting situations in that were similar enough to some comic scenes that you expected certain things to happen...and then nothing did.

I still liked it but I was really hoping to see a certain HIGHLIGHT to view:
sword wielding, zombie leashing character show up...or maybe see them stumble upon a prison.

I know the show is different from the comic, which is a good thing, but if they make it TOO different it becomes a bad thing. Not talking about the last scene here...more thinking of scenes with Shane and Rick, and the church...

Oh, yeah, and what IS the deal with the bodies in the cars, anyway?...if there isn't some explanation there, that just makes no sense at all based on what we know so far...

Edited by Nebucron, 17 October 2011 - 04:11 PM.


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Posted 17 October 2011 - 05:19 PM

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Ok...I absolutely loved the first season....didn't even know it was a comic until well into the first season...read all 89 issues last month in the way of catchup...and to be honest, I found the season opener to be fairly boring.

Sure there were some attempts at character development, especially with Andrea and Rick, and less so with some of the others although still present, and I realize that character interaction is a huge part of this show, but for a season opener, especially one 90 minutes long, I expected more...
To be honest, it fell more to me like a way of intentionally trying to throw comic fans off...

Without spoilers: It seemed like they were putting situations in that were similar enough to some comic scenes that you expected certain things to happen...and then nothing did.

I still liked it but I was really hoping to see a certain HIGHLIGHT to view:
sword wielding, zombie leashing character show up...or maybe see them stumble upon a prison.

I know the show is different from the comic, which is a good thing, but if they make it TOO different it becomes a bad thing. Not talking about the last scene here...more thinking of scenes with Shane and Rick, and the church...

Oh, yeah, and what IS the deal with the bodies in the cars, anyway?...if there isn't some explanation there, that just makes no sense at all based on what we know so far...


I really REALLY hope they stay far FAR away from the later stuff in the comic. Keep that anime/(manga?) trash out of my zombie apocalypse please.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 05:48 PM

My guess is the bodies in the cars were dried out or cooked from being in there so long. They were more or less jerky.

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QUOTE(ultra magnus13 @ Oct 17 2011, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Nebucron @ Oct 17 2011, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok...I absolutely loved the first season....didn't even know it was a comic until well into the first season...read all 89 issues last month in the way of catchup...and to be honest, I found the season opener to be fairly boring.

Sure there were some attempts at character development, especially with Andrea and Rick, and less so with some of the others although still present, and I realize that character interaction is a huge part of this show, but for a season opener, especially one 90 minutes long, I expected more...
To be honest, it fell more to me like a way of intentionally trying to throw comic fans off...

Without spoilers: It seemed like they were putting situations in that were similar enough to some comic scenes that you expected certain things to happen...and then nothing did.

I still liked it but I was really hoping to see a certain HIGHLIGHT to view:
sword wielding, zombie leashing character show up...or maybe see them stumble upon a prison.

I know the show is different from the comic, which is a good thing, but if they make it TOO different it becomes a bad thing. Not talking about the last scene here...more thinking of scenes with Shane and Rick, and the church...

Oh, yeah, and what IS the deal with the bodies in the cars, anyway?...if there isn't some explanation there, that just makes no sense at all based on what we know so far...


I really REALLY hope they stay far FAR away from the later stuff in the comic. Keep that anime/(manga?) trash out of my zombie apocalypse please.



What anime stuff? Sword does not automatically equal anime.

And lol and calling a group of 30-40 zombies a herd. I'll wait for them to CG a group of hundreds.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 07:11 PM

QUOTE(C16 @ Oct 17 2011, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ultra magnus13 @ Oct 17 2011, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Nebucron @ Oct 17 2011, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok...I absolutely loved the first season....didn't even know it was a comic until well into the first season...read all 89 issues last month in the way of catchup...and to be honest, I found the season opener to be fairly boring.

Sure there were some attempts at character development, especially with Andrea and Rick, and less so with some of the others although still present, and I realize that character interaction is a huge part of this show, but for a season opener, especially one 90 minutes long, I expected more...
To be honest, it fell more to me like a way of intentionally trying to throw comic fans off...

Without spoilers: It seemed like they were putting situations in that were similar enough to some comic scenes that you expected certain things to happen...and then nothing did.

I still liked it but I was really hoping to see a certain HIGHLIGHT to view:
sword wielding, zombie leashing character show up...or maybe see them stumble upon a prison.

I know the show is different from the comic, which is a good thing, but if they make it TOO different it becomes a bad thing. Not talking about the last scene here...more thinking of scenes with Shane and Rick, and the church...

Oh, yeah, and what IS the deal with the bodies in the cars, anyway?...if there isn't some explanation there, that just makes no sense at all based on what we know so far...


I really REALLY hope they stay far FAR away from the later stuff in the comic. Keep that anime/(manga?) trash out of my zombie apocalypse please.



What anime stuff? Sword does not automatically equal anime.

And lol and calling a group of 30-40 zombies a herd. I'll wait for them to CG a group of hundreds.

A group of 30 to 40 cattle is a herd...... Anything more than 10 is a herd.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 07:17 PM

The boyfriend pointed this out on netflix over the weekend, and we watched the whole first season. Coincidentally the 2nd season premier was on the same day. So now I've sat through 7 episodes of this thing, and really the writing is not so great.

The first season started off great and had me intrigued, but it just went downhill after the first two episodes. It's hard to believe these things so easily overran the military when the small pack of main characters is able to kill any of them with the slightest thump on the head. I also don't like some of the mechanics of the zombies. Seems oddly inconsistent. Okay, so they're hungry, but they'll just patiently wait around for seemingly infinite periods of time until a plot character strolls by so they can be spooky and jump at them? Like the church scene. Are we really supposed to think the zombies just decided to sit there that whole time? And if everyone gets this horrible thrashing fever before dying and coming back to life, then they sure handled it well by sitting up perfectly straight at church in their Sunday best. I will give them credit though; the zombies in this series seem more capable than any series I've seen, which gives them more fright effect.

And as already mentioned in this thread by theEvergreen, this episode had some bad plot in it. I found myself doing a few double takes and saying, "Wait, did they really just do that?".

Really everything just feels predictable so far. Not a damn thing in this episode was the slightest bit surprising. I'm hoping this show gets better cause I want to like it, but it's getting less watchable with every episode.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 07:17 PM

I was a little dissapointed with this, I think its just a little too much drama for me. I kinda liked what the blonde girl said to Dale though, he had that coming. I don't get the deer thing at all, was the boy going to pet it?

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 07:42 PM


Hard to believe all those people would have just sat in their cars and died of thirst. And, yeah, regardless of cause, their deadness is a problem in itself.