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@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

On the plus side, tho, TFW has "appreciation threads" for practically everything, even stuff like Kre-O and PCC. And their toy database is quite handy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

I've been happily posting on TFW for years. Then, after being *here* for a few months, I look back and wonder how the hell I even bothered with it. I mean, my ignore list had hundreds of people on it. Literally HUNDREDS of ignored people. I even showed off said gargantuan list once (with a small thumbnail that you couldn't read any of the names on, mind you). That... that really should have been a warning sign, I suppose...

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Thanks, I enjoyed reading the nerdrage. I should hang out over there more often.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:07 PM)

I mean, Reveal Your Shield. That gets complained about too.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:04 PM)

One of the reveal the shield news threads at TFW has movie fans and G1 fans arguing over who has it worse

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

You got me awfully curious. What thread ware we talking about?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.


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Would you like to see the Mechtech gimmick continue?


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#1 (Deactivated) Skullgrin2014

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 01:00 AM

I can't help but think that the Mechtech gimmick would have been awesome if it had been a gimmick used on the War For Cybertron Generations figures.

Interchangeable transforming weapons.

That was the only thing really missing with those toys IMO.

I kind of hope we see more mechtech type weapons in the future. Maybe when we get War For Cybertron 2. That would be a good gimmick to use for the figures.

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 01:30 AM

No, the toys are already shrinking, and giant accessories that I mostly ignore only make the main toy even smaller. I'd prefer that the main toy get all the design attention and plastic.

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 01:37 AM

I wouldn't mind, IF they make sure all of them have a way to stay deployed. Too many of them just end up being big chunks with a gun barrel attached when posed on a shelf because they can't lock open.

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 02:06 AM

I would totally dig mech tech weapons on WFC figures if the weapons were done in translucent colors.

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 02:23 AM

Not remotely, my least favorite gimmick in a long time.
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Posted 04 October 2011 - 04:00 AM

i hate mechtech almost as much as i hate mini-cons

which is a lot. and yes. i went there. >:}

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 06:05 AM

NO.

KILL IT. WITH FIRE.

I mean, I just saw the Voyager Optimus Prime. I laughed mockingly. It is as small as a RVTS/Generations Deluxe.

Yeah, plastic is getting more and more expensive, but this is ridiculous. Not to mention how wacky and silly the weapons are. Like Skyhammer's stabbing-stabbity thingie...

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 06:37 AM

While there is a smidgen of appeal for a WFC toyline, other than that, not a chance. They are a colossal waste of plastic budget, and the lack of a lock on anything below a voyager is a big oversight. Many of them are just too bulky to be held by a lot of figures as is.

Now, if we are talking about Mech Tech ports, I have no problem with them as a legacy feature. Same as with Minicon plugs and C-clips, always a bonus to have a cool feature on a figure to get some extended playability.
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Posted 04 October 2011 - 06:37 AM

Absolutely not. They've tended (with exceptions) to look dreadful and I'd rather they used the budget on the figures themselves or just more, less gimmicky, accessories.

At least the HA basics are supplying us with a good amount of C-clip weaponry (even if they do come with a lump of plastic I could also live without).
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Posted 04 October 2011 - 06:50 AM

I've always strongly disliked oversized bulky weapons, and I dislike MechTech even more for making the Deluxes smaller even if they are decent molds.

I do appreciate that repaints don't retain the same MechTech weapon that the original release of the mold had.

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:01 AM

I think the Mechtech gimmick is meh. Often times the weapons don't really like anything but large blocks of plastic when not deployed.

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 02:05 PM

I'd love to see it continue. It's nice to have some decently sized weapons again that do not have to suffer from being a part of the alt mode, or otherwise hidden.

Plus, I just like the G2 nod with having huge guns on the roof of cars and such.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 12:46 AM

I can see why people don't appreciate it.

But in part I brought up the thread because I could see a lot of good uses for it with Generations type figures in the future.
Although, that said, I definately agree it should be more or less a Legacy feature. And, not a constant.
Heres why I mentioned War For Cyberton mainly as an exmaple.



What I do like about Mechtech. Is that it made me feel like getting the DOTM toys. It gave that weapons interchangeaility feel you get from a FPS.
And, it gave me that feeling that it coincided well with the X-box DOTM game.


Now, were probably going to get some figures when we get a sequel to War For Cybertron. It really got me thinking about how much better they could have been with mechtech type weapons.



For one, it would have given Hasbro an excuse to give us accessories based on the game and market it as a selling point. The other reason is this. I think Optimus was the one figure that had the most playability. IMO.


Why?



He had two pegs for stowing weapons on his back in robot mode. Pegs to put weapons on his forearms as well as his fists. And, if that wasn't enough. If you push his fists inside. He can have weapons that have pegs on their back. Fit inside in a fashion that is simalir to how weapons just attach to the arms.
I felt, like I was taken into the game when I first played with him. And really giving him some of the mechtech guns felt like a given. Taking how you could pretty much give him 7 guns. To use. Or 3 guns like in most modern day shooters.


But then you get the disapointment that none of this can be done with Bumblebee, Megatron, or Soundwave. Sure Bumblebee and Soundwave can hold weapons. But theres nowhere to store extras. And, really it feels pretty boring to get a dinky pistol for Bumblebee. When he gets this cool spinning BFG that becomes an extension of his arm (which the dinky pistol is based on).



The other reason namely, is Megatron's fusion cannon. There was so much potential right there. Considering how the cannon actually transformed from a tank turret to an arm cannon in the game. We could have gotten a retooled autobot hovertank figure. As a good supplement down the road. Beyond that if the cannon wasn't gang molded to the toy. They could have re-released it as an extra weapon in Autobot colors. I love how the cannon mounts onto Megatron's arm. But it was just awesome how in the game larger bots could use the fusion cannon.


But, if your going to have cross compatiblity. Your BFG should have a neat gimmick that "MEANS" something. And this is where I feel making it have a mechtech gimmick would have been better than a firing misslile.

I really, really, loved how the tip of the cannon opens up when firing in the game. As if it's delivering a huge weapons payload. I'm wondering if we could have gotten a gimmick like that instead. It would probably be costly on a weapon that size. But, I'd have rather have had a simulation of the weapon firing at the push of a button. To a missile gimmick. We get missle gimmicks in droves. And, they feel redundant. Plus, the Fusion cannon should have sales potential in itself. It's the BFG of the Transformers when you think of it. Being able to get Megatron and knowing Optimus and Soundwave can also use it? Thats really FTW in my opinion. Despite the fact that it neuters the uniqueness of the weapon...


Also, i'd love it if we ever get Thunderwing re-released in a two pack (with lets say a Generations Nightbeat) for him to come with a Cyclone cannon that has a spinning chaingun gimmick. Sort of like Cybertron Galvy's machine gun.


I really like the idea of weapons that do something. I feel it adds playability. And, I think we could get some neat stuff down the road.

Edited by MonsterFromMars, 05 October 2011 - 12:52 AM.


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Posted 05 October 2011 - 12:46 AM

Huge guns rule, keep them.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 03:30 AM

Lose 'em. Too many of the guns I've seen have no appeal to me whatsoever, and the spring-loaded change gommick is an annoyance and 1/2! The guns really only look good when deployed and not everyone can open them up safely without losing a vital piece in the carpet or down a heating duct.

Plus some of the gimmicks are just sheer crap, IMO. I mean, look at Barricade's weapon, cool looking gun, but mech-tech it and you have a bad imitation of Wolverine! And the claws won't even stay deployed! Can you imagine him facing off with Bumblebee and trying to fight like that? "Errg, out of ammo! Take THIS Autobot scum!" *snikt!* half a moment later after Bee whips out his weapon, Barricade aims, and the claws snap back *Snakt!* "...oh, scrap!"

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 03:52 AM

Again; whatever MechTech adds in playability, coolness and variety, its not worth reducing the size of a Deluxe for.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 04:24 AM

QUOTE(Unfair Fight @ Oct 4 2011, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Huge guns rule, keep them.

Yes they do. Huge hunks of plastic that have "barrels" pop out do not. Makes me long for the days of the "guns" that came with Alternators.

Spend the development cost on the figure, not a gob of petroleum product that gets pitched in a cardboard box please.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 04:56 AM

I just want them to keep making 5mm post weapons. I don't care what gimmick the weapons have, just keep the toys having c-clips and 5mm posts. Specific gimmickery can come and go, but those interactivity and compatibility aspects NEED to stay. Please don't go back to having no weapons the same size!

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 05:22 AM

Absolutely not. They're absolutely useless, ungainly peices of junk which shouldn't have been included in the first place. Mechtech was the only downside to the DotM Voyager Megatron mold, since the cannon looked like crap, would never stay extended, and had no way of remaining stable on the robot mode's arm. And yes, I know that apparently you need to twist part of the Mechtech weapons to get them to stay extended, but that's a load of crap since it's clearly not designed to do that.

Mechtech- what a way to waste plastic.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 05:25 AM

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Yes they do. Huge hunks of plastic that have "barrels" pop out do not


I said what I said. They're cool.

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