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@  unitremover : (22 February 2017 - 09:36 PM)

I haven't been up there in a while but one of the Walmarts around here still has AOE deluxes out. Some of the CVSs do too.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 February 2017 - 09:34 PM)

It's been the same thing in local stores for ages up here.

@  BlackMax : (22 February 2017 - 09:33 PM)

One near me is the same - I swear they have over forty Deluxes there, all from many months ago.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 07:43 PM)

my walmart finally filled those empty tr pegs. and of course its a mix of waves one and 2 (wave 1.5?)

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:11 PM)

Got Highbrow, Skullcrusher, Scourge, and Chromedome for $5 a piece

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:10 PM)

My Walmart had a Generations Rattrap hanging for the past 2 and a half years, and in trying to clearance it, inadvertently marked down the entire Generations Deluxe assortment.

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:09 PM)

A shelf warmer's ultimate revenge: being around long enough that in trying to clearance it...the store marks down the entire SKU!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:59 AM)

Eh, he would've gotten beaten up if the government sent just about anyone.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:56 AM)

Regardless, literally everything I've ever seen (and a lot on tfwiki) attributes Megatron's slide into violence to Whirl beating him up while in custody. Maybe not like flicking a switch but Megatron's line "You made me. You taught me words were weightless without force" kinda spells it out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:38 AM)

I'm not sure if there even was a specific turning point, but he didn't seem kill happy yet when he was with Terminus, and that was after Whirl beating him up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:24 AM)

It was also before any sort of uprising or him actually doing much of anything.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:20 AM)

I mean, the whole thing didn't start as "the great war". It was an uprising that eventually morphed into a the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:17 AM)

Yeah, of course it's before the war, Whirl beating Megatron while he was in custody was the tipping point that made Megatron turn violent.

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:08 AM)

again

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:04 AM)

Forgot this wasn't a search bar

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:03 AM)

hascon

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 05:12 AM)

But the thing with Whirl was before he started the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 03:28 AM)

Like so many awful things in that universe, it's basically Whirl's fault.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 12:51 AM)

for about 10 minutes. then he got all kill happy

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 February 2017 - 10:27 PM)

Wouldn't IDW Megatron kind of count since his main reason for instigating the Great War was to overthrow the Functionist social order?

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:05 PM)

(I haven't read IDW at all please don't sue me)

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:04 PM)

Tyrest? He was chief justice, even :p

@  Bass X0 : (21 February 2017 - 03:24 PM)

I kinda want an Autobot to have the function of "Social Justice Warrior".

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 12:20 PM)

Even we have limits.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 12:18 PM)

Good. But let's agree not to do one for Tecumseh.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 12:12 PM)

Shitting Bull.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 11:54 AM)

or spending a lot of time taking a Squatto?

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 11:49 AM)

nice

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 11:42 AM)

Just hope it's clean or you'll be meeting Pukeahontas.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 10:39 AM)

Snackajawea - REAL Native American food prepackaged for your snacking pleasure!

@  Pennpenn : (19 February 2017 - 04:03 AM)

Oh wait, figured it out. Doi...

@  Pennpenn : (19 February 2017 - 04:02 AM)

I'm kinda disappointed how they messed up Legion Bisk's hands so that his front wheels can't roll.

@  RichardT1977 : (19 February 2017 - 12:45 AM)

One of the Walmarts near me has some pegs full of Wave 1 TR deluxes.

@  Paladin : (18 February 2017 - 09:39 PM)

https://twitter.com/autobase_aichi/status/833142409005391872 ....is that an MP DINOBOT teaser?!?!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 09:35 PM)

Yeah, never seen a Titans Return Hot Rod

@  LBD "Nyt... : (18 February 2017 - 08:58 PM)

Or Hot Rod. D=

@  LBD "Nyt... : (18 February 2017 - 08:58 PM)

Wow, seriously? I don't think I've even seen him here. =(

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 07:50 PM)

Yeah Mindwipe shelfwarmed like crazy in Vancouver.

@  Steevy Maximus : (18 February 2017 - 07:36 PM)

My Walmart still has a Rattrap floating around. My frustration is I've seen Hot Rod and Doublecross, but still haven't seen a Highbrow

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 07:02 PM)

I still haven't seen any Wave 3 Deluxes aside from the Triggerhappy I got off eBay.

@  Pennpenn : (18 February 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Fairly sure the Target near my work still has a CW Wheeljack hanging around the Wave 3 TR deluxes. Just wish we'd gotten Wave 2 deluxes...

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 06:53 PM)

CW deluxes from the later waves clogged the shelves real bad.

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 06:52 PM)

Correction: TR deluxes don't shelfwarm.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 06:47 PM)

Generations deluxes don't shelfwarm.

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 06:30 PM)

Hm, interesting. Some of the pegs seem to have the correct names when they've been shelfwarming for a while. So like Mindwipe would be on a peg labelled MINDWIPE next to WOLFWIRE, etc.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2017 - 06:30 PM)

It would make less sense to track individual figures when they're ordered by the assortment anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 03:02 PM)

Nope. walmart tends to scan the first UPC of the assortment, then use it for the entire assortment. Actually tracking data makes to much sense.

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 02:37 PM)

So hey I bought Triggerhappy from Walmart a few days ago and just notice the receipt said TRIGGERHAPPY on it. Not the assortment name or whatever. Are they using this info to better track character sales or something?

@  unluckiness : (18 February 2017 - 07:13 AM)

I think there was a premonition panel in the Devil's Due TF vs JOEs

@  Bass X0 : (18 February 2017 - 05:28 AM)

When an app asks me to give a review or a rating, I decline, but I always look at other people's reviews before I get an app.


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#21 (Deactivated) mignash

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 03:42 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Aug 30 2011, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sweet packaging art. Wonder if they paid Nick Roche.


I doubt it. It is an unabashed KO, they stole all the designs and we know it. They are not even pretending it's their own work. I wonder if i has some sort of tech spec on the box or packed in.

Edited by mignash, 30 August 2011 - 03:43 PM.


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Posted 30 August 2011 - 05:02 PM

I knew there was no shame regarding the corporate level. I just wondered if there was any shame regarding the individual level.

Not, like, at the KO companies, no, of course.

But among portion of the fandom which eats this crap up.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 05:20 PM

They can get something cheaper than they would if it was official. Plus, they don't care that the mold is stolen, why would they care the art is?

And 40 dollars for a knock off? The only way I'd buy ANY of these things is if they were under 10 dollars at a flea market...which hasn't happened yet.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 05:37 PM

Well, right now it costs over $400 for one of these, so I can see the appeal of a $40 immitation, even if it's a $10 mold.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 05:45 PM

Is the mold really stolen? Probably more like "borrowed" without permission.

I'll get this, but not because it's available cheaply, but because the real one has become so ridiculously expensive. If he was going for even slightly higher than average Botcon Deluxe prices, I'd have no problem splurging to have the official quality one. As it is, I'll settle for for a decline in some quality.


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Posted 31 August 2011 - 01:03 PM

QUOTE(C16 @ Aug 30 2011, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is the mold really stolen? Probably more like "borrowed" without permission.


Wow.

Just. Wow.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 01:08 PM

Probably not stolen or borrowed, but copied the design (without permission). I doubt they stole the physical mold from Hasbro or Takara, they made a new one by using the parts a Hasbro or Takara toy to manufacturer a new mold. It probably doesn't even look the same, and has a different part layout on the sprues.

Edited by mignash, 31 August 2011 - 01:08 PM.


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Posted 31 August 2011 - 02:35 PM

I just think the charm of exclusives is owning the real thing. That's what's worth the money and what makes them unique. Owning a copy of an exclusive, as a good enough stand in of the real thing, doesn't appeal to me. I might as well buy a Cyclonus and Hot Rod set off ebay, therefore getting two figures for the price of one (or a single used hot rod for 7 dollars) and kitbash my own SG Rodimus. The custom would have as much value as a knock-off, fill a void in my collection and actually be more unique than the knock off, since its one of a kind.

I mean, either way its not the actual exclusive, so there's no value there.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 03:12 PM

QUOTE(NICKSTART @ Aug 31 2011, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just think the charm of exclusives is owning the real thing. That's what's worth the money and what makes them unique. Owning a copy of an exclusive, as a good enough stand in of the real thing, doesn't appeal to me. I might as well buy a Cyclonus and Hot Rod set off ebay, therefore getting two figures for the price of one (or a single used hot rod for 7 dollars) and kitbash my own SG Rodimus. The custom would have as much value as a knock-off, fill a void in my collection and actually be more unique than the knock off, since its one of a kind.

I mean, either way its not the actual exclusive, so there's no value there.


That's a completely legitimate position for you in working on your collection if you have the money.

Some people buy Armani handbags, some people buy immitaiton Armani handbags, and some people sew their own handbag.

Edited by mignash, 31 August 2011 - 03:40 PM.


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Posted 31 August 2011 - 03:19 PM

Except the custom figure at least had $10 to $20 actually go to the company that owns the likeness and did the work to make the figure originally. A KO has none of that.

I should have bought an extra SG Rodimus when he and Megatron were selling for $120 to $150.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 03:45 PM

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Except the custom figure at least had $10 to $20 actually go to the company that owns the likeness and did the work to make the figure originally. A KO has none of that.

I should have bought an extra SG Rodimus when he and Megatron were selling for $120 to $150.

Randy


I seem to recall that a church run video editing company tried once to sell DVDs that had been edited to be "kid friendly" by cutting out the "R" rated material for people who wanted to less offensive versions of movies to show the whole family. This of course would be illegal, so they tried bundeling the DVD with a "real" DVD of the same movie, so you were technically buying the "real" movie and the edit was a free extra they packed in, and you were paying for the copyright on the original film.

Do you think if some KO seller made a bundle with a real common deco of a figure, and a KO figure that was a more expensive deco that was "free", it would make the purchase more legitimate? For instance what if they bundeled the Universe Hot Rod and Cyclonus with a KO SG Rodimus and Cyclonus?

Also, what if they KO was missing some accessories, like say tires and missiles, screws, and other bits, so you had to take those from the "real" figure to complete them. That way technically it's just massive "upgrade" set, not a full figure?

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 03:46 PM

This really is unbelievable.

"Disabled people donít have special needs. We have very reasonable human needs. Our needs include freedom from abuse, violence, and mistreatment, the right to autonomy and self-direction, the right to represent ourselves, equal opportunity for education and employment, the right to accommodation, and societal inclusion and acceptance.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Aug 30 2011, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I knew there was no shame regarding the corporate level. I just wondered if there was any shame regarding the individual level.

Not, like, at the KO companies, no, of course.

But among portion of the fandom which eats this crap up.


Do you really think Nick Rocke would accept money from a KO company for using his art of Transformers characters on their KO boxes? If he did accept it, wouldn't that piss off Hasbro? Accepting their money might be taken as endorsing the KO toy.

Edited by mignash, 31 August 2011 - 04:30 PM.


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Posted 31 August 2011 - 06:19 PM

mignash I don't understand why you feel the need to defend the KO people as if they're the victim in this, but whatever.

I'm sure this KO will be popular with some.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 07:47 PM

Razorclaw is RLY MAD. And easy to troll, too.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 08:09 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Aug 31 2011, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
mignash I don't understand why you feel the need to defend the KO people as if they're the victim in this, but whatever.

I'm sure this KO will be popular with some.

Randy


I didn't defend anyone. I don't expect them to pay the artist of the art they pulled on google images and pasted on their box. I don't expect that that artist who made the image expect a check in the mail for it either. This however is the KO toy forum, where we talk about the KO toys.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 08:40 PM

Has anyone preordered yet? I'm wondering if they charge you for the preorder or for when it ships.

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I despise the fact that these things exist, and I despise the fact that people support their production by buying them. Once they reach the secondary market, people are going to get swindled -- intentionally or not.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 12:40 PM

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I despise the fact that these things exist, and I despise the fact that people support their production by buying them. Once they reach the secondary market, people are going to get swindled -- intentionally or not.

Those are my thoughts as well, though lately I no longer get upset at seeing new ones - I guess I've grown dull to the pain.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 12:56 PM

And here I was customizing one of my spare Rodimi into this guy. Looks like I may be changing directions.