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@  2017 : (17 October 2017 - 05:56 PM)

It scared me!

@  Kalidor : (17 October 2017 - 05:42 PM)

Yes - here is more information - https://www.battleforthenet.com/

@  Darth Gonzo : (17 October 2017 - 05:36 PM)

Hello?

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:39 PM)

Yeah, it's the Allspark.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 October 2017 - 04:35 PM)

Okay, so it is the allspark doing it, and not some piece of malware I need to run a system scan over, that's basically all I wanted to know.

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:34 PM)

If, say, Hillary or Bernie was president, we'd have a chance, but with the current administration... We're pretty much hugged.

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:32 PM)

I don't know why we're even bothering; there's no way in hell a GOP-controlled congress would listen to common proles like us.

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:32 PM)

Yeah, so did I.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 October 2017 - 04:19 PM)

Okay, so I just got a pop up telling me I need to call congress about the FCC killing net neutrality. Anyone else get that?

@  Dracula : (17 October 2017 - 09:45 AM)

I'd probably use a primer coat on either of them.

@  unluckiness : (17 October 2017 - 07:21 AM)

Wonder if Overboard or Crashbash would be easier to paint over. Generally dark colors are harder but then again, screaming fuschia seems like it'd be difficult to cover too.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 October 2017 - 02:46 PM)

Damn, the shoutbox won't accept those characters. I mean "open-mid back unrounded vowel" on Wikipedia.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 October 2017 - 02:46 PM)

Λ

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 October 2017 - 02:45 PM)

@Bass X0 Ha, I think some Asian accents of English, that mispronunciation would be considered standard, as those accents lack [ʌ].

@  MEDdMI : (16 October 2017 - 12:08 PM)

She's the last thing you hear before your doom.

@  Noideaforaname : (15 October 2017 - 07:34 PM)

The cat can talk?!

@  MEDdMI : (15 October 2017 - 06:30 PM)

TMM's first cat was Cookie b/c that's the first word he said when he saw her

@  Bass X0 : (15 October 2017 - 05:34 PM)

Reminds me of when my nephew was one year old and my sister got him a puppy. He couldn't say puppy properly and it sounded like poppy, so Poppy is what they called her.

@  Arazyr : (15 October 2017 - 02:36 PM)

Yeah. I thought it had some interesting informational articles too.

@  Bass X0 : (15 October 2017 - 01:59 PM)

does anyone else miss the ToyFare magazine? I just read it for the pictures and jokes rather than using it as a serious guide for buying and selling toys.

@  Arazyr : (15 October 2017 - 09:21 AM)

Uncle Bobby Peach, baby! Uncle Bobby Peach!

@  Arazyr : (15 October 2017 - 09:21 AM)

Last night, playing Mario Kart with my daughter, I misread Baby Peach as "Bobby Peach".

@  Onyxstrike : (15 October 2017 - 09:03 AM)

Yeah, I might've forgotten that the Beast is pretty much just a mindless killing machine. That's pretty much what I get for going off of the TFWiki summaries without having actually read any of it.

@  tffan01 : (15 October 2017 - 08:34 AM)

@Onyxstrike Well, to be fair, the quality of the story aside, Beast Within illustrates the fact that Dinobots are feral in nature, with what would happen if they actually lost control. That's a character flaw in a way, correct? 

@  2017 : (15 October 2017 - 08:21 AM)

Send me a PM if you need help getting to the true ending, also.

@  Strafe : (15 October 2017 - 08:15 AM)

Thinking about quirky robots occupies 30% of my brain's daily processing power. I can't remember birthdays and I never know where my phone is, but it's totally worth it.

@  2017 : (15 October 2017 - 08:03 AM)

Yay, I look forward to your dealings with quirky robots!

@  Strafe : (15 October 2017 - 08:01 AM)

Definitely, I started setting aside funds a month ago for the inevitable Black Friday digital sales in the Playstation and Xbox stores. Going to be ready this year, and that's one of the many games on my list!

@  2017 : (15 October 2017 - 07:30 AM)

Hey Strafe will you ever play Nier: Automata?

@  Onyxstrike : (15 October 2017 - 07:19 AM)

Plus, The Beast Within is overall not a very good story.

@  Onyxstrike : (15 October 2017 - 07:19 AM)

The problem is is that Victory's dreams are meant to prey on the Dinobot's character flaws. For instance, Grimlock downing every Decepticon in his path, but falling for Starscream's begging for mercy schtick, preys on his arrogence. What character flaws does The Beast Within prey on? Nothing. The entire premise of the book was to please the many fans who posed the many hypothetical "What if the Dinobots combined?" scenarios way back when, with a gratuitous death count to boot.

@  Bass X0 : (15 October 2017 - 05:51 AM)

What's wrong with wanting it to be a canon dream sequence?

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 October 2017 - 01:14 PM)

go home bass you are drunk

@  Bass X0 : (14 October 2017 - 12:15 PM)

My fanon is that The Beast Within is a follow up the Marvel UK annual story Victory. In Victory, the Dinobots are trapped within a dream world, unable to wake up - each one having dreams, ending in the Dinobots having another dream then waking up in a comic issue. My fanon is that The Beast Within is their final dream that finally pushes them into waking up.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 October 2017 - 10:25 AM)

As long as that means The Beast Within is still non-canon, I'm fine with it.

@  Locoman : (14 October 2017 - 09:29 AM)

When everything is canon, nothing is.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 October 2017 - 09:25 AM)

The TF multiverse is an arbitrary concept. Whatever an author thinks, goes.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 October 2017 - 05:59 AM)

Trypticon vs Deathsaurer. Make it happen!

@  tffan01 : (14 October 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Going by AVP, is Spider-Man and Zoids comic canon to the TF multiverse???

@  D Immortalis : (14 October 2017 - 12:37 AM)

stop that! we shall never speak of the "Embarassment", 'lest we be punished with more like it! =]

@  Pennpenn : (13 October 2017 - 08:23 PM)

Would the mutant heads have been on the headmasters or on the bodies (sort of like TR Galvatron's "helmet")?

@  Shrug : (13 October 2017 - 08:05 PM)

Alternate reality: Beast Wars mutant heads really took off. Nearly every Transformers since '96 has featured them. The big complaint against the line-wide gimmick in TR isn't being headmasters, it's the lack of mutant heads.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2017 - 07:03 PM)

Car TF molds get made all the time; bat TF molds don't. I feel like that justifies making a new Convobat from a mold configured highly unlike the original.

@  Bass X0 : (13 October 2017 - 05:56 PM)

and yet Mindwipe is good enough to use as Convobat.

@  Shrug : (13 October 2017 - 03:19 PM)

I'm okay with that.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2017 - 03:07 PM)

Takara seems to have decided that the TR Chromedome mold is unsuitable for anyone else besides Chromedome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2017 - 03:07 PM)

*shrug* No 21st century (Macromaster) Nightbeat toy seems to have satisfied a decent number of people, from what I understand.

@  Locoman : (13 October 2017 - 02:57 PM)

You could probably finagle a pretty good Nightbeat body from TR Chromedome, or even a heavy retool of Cogman.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2017 - 02:44 PM)

Nightbeat in particular. Hasbro seems to love him.

@  Shrug : (13 October 2017 - 12:21 PM)

Yeah, they seem to be exploring every possible avenue of G1 now.


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#21 (Deactivated) mignash

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 03:42 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Aug 30 2011, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sweet packaging art. Wonder if they paid Nick Roche.


I doubt it. It is an unabashed KO, they stole all the designs and we know it. They are not even pretending it's their own work. I wonder if i has some sort of tech spec on the box or packed in.

Edited by mignash, 30 August 2011 - 03:43 PM.


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Posted 30 August 2011 - 05:02 PM

I knew there was no shame regarding the corporate level. I just wondered if there was any shame regarding the individual level.

Not, like, at the KO companies, no, of course.

But among portion of the fandom which eats this crap up.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 05:20 PM

They can get something cheaper than they would if it was official. Plus, they don't care that the mold is stolen, why would they care the art is?

And 40 dollars for a knock off? The only way I'd buy ANY of these things is if they were under 10 dollars at a flea market...which hasn't happened yet.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 05:37 PM

Well, right now it costs over $400 for one of these, so I can see the appeal of a $40 immitation, even if it's a $10 mold.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 05:45 PM

Is the mold really stolen? Probably more like "borrowed" without permission.

I'll get this, but not because it's available cheaply, but because the real one has become so ridiculously expensive. If he was going for even slightly higher than average Botcon Deluxe prices, I'd have no problem splurging to have the official quality one. As it is, I'll settle for for a decline in some quality.


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Posted 31 August 2011 - 01:03 PM

QUOTE(C16 @ Aug 30 2011, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is the mold really stolen? Probably more like "borrowed" without permission.


Wow.

Just. Wow.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 01:08 PM

Probably not stolen or borrowed, but copied the design (without permission). I doubt they stole the physical mold from Hasbro or Takara, they made a new one by using the parts a Hasbro or Takara toy to manufacturer a new mold. It probably doesn't even look the same, and has a different part layout on the sprues.

Edited by mignash, 31 August 2011 - 01:08 PM.


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Posted 31 August 2011 - 02:35 PM

I just think the charm of exclusives is owning the real thing. That's what's worth the money and what makes them unique. Owning a copy of an exclusive, as a good enough stand in of the real thing, doesn't appeal to me. I might as well buy a Cyclonus and Hot Rod set off ebay, therefore getting two figures for the price of one (or a single used hot rod for 7 dollars) and kitbash my own SG Rodimus. The custom would have as much value as a knock-off, fill a void in my collection and actually be more unique than the knock off, since its one of a kind.

I mean, either way its not the actual exclusive, so there's no value there.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 03:12 PM

QUOTE(NICKSTART @ Aug 31 2011, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just think the charm of exclusives is owning the real thing. That's what's worth the money and what makes them unique. Owning a copy of an exclusive, as a good enough stand in of the real thing, doesn't appeal to me. I might as well buy a Cyclonus and Hot Rod set off ebay, therefore getting two figures for the price of one (or a single used hot rod for 7 dollars) and kitbash my own SG Rodimus. The custom would have as much value as a knock-off, fill a void in my collection and actually be more unique than the knock off, since its one of a kind.

I mean, either way its not the actual exclusive, so there's no value there.


That's a completely legitimate position for you in working on your collection if you have the money.

Some people buy Armani handbags, some people buy immitaiton Armani handbags, and some people sew their own handbag.

Edited by mignash, 31 August 2011 - 03:40 PM.


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Posted 31 August 2011 - 03:19 PM

Except the custom figure at least had $10 to $20 actually go to the company that owns the likeness and did the work to make the figure originally. A KO has none of that.

I should have bought an extra SG Rodimus when he and Megatron were selling for $120 to $150.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 03:45 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Aug 31 2011, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Except the custom figure at least had $10 to $20 actually go to the company that owns the likeness and did the work to make the figure originally. A KO has none of that.

I should have bought an extra SG Rodimus when he and Megatron were selling for $120 to $150.

Randy


I seem to recall that a church run video editing company tried once to sell DVDs that had been edited to be "kid friendly" by cutting out the "R" rated material for people who wanted to less offensive versions of movies to show the whole family. This of course would be illegal, so they tried bundeling the DVD with a "real" DVD of the same movie, so you were technically buying the "real" movie and the edit was a free extra they packed in, and you were paying for the copyright on the original film.

Do you think if some KO seller made a bundle with a real common deco of a figure, and a KO figure that was a more expensive deco that was "free", it would make the purchase more legitimate? For instance what if they bundeled the Universe Hot Rod and Cyclonus with a KO SG Rodimus and Cyclonus?

Also, what if they KO was missing some accessories, like say tires and missiles, screws, and other bits, so you had to take those from the "real" figure to complete them. That way technically it's just massive "upgrade" set, not a full figure?

Edited by mignash, 31 August 2011 - 03:49 PM.


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Posted 31 August 2011 - 03:46 PM

This really is unbelievable.

"Disabled people dont have special needs. We have very reasonable human needs. Our needs include freedom from abuse, violence, and mistreatment, the right to autonomy and self-direction, the right to represent ourselves, equal opportunity for education and employment, the right to accommodation, and societal inclusion and acceptance.

The need for accommodation isnt a special need. Its a basic human right. Its a leveling of the playing field that allows us the same opportunities and chances as non-disabled people."


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Posted 31 August 2011 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Aug 30 2011, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I knew there was no shame regarding the corporate level. I just wondered if there was any shame regarding the individual level.

Not, like, at the KO companies, no, of course.

But among portion of the fandom which eats this crap up.


Do you really think Nick Rocke would accept money from a KO company for using his art of Transformers characters on their KO boxes? If he did accept it, wouldn't that piss off Hasbro? Accepting their money might be taken as endorsing the KO toy.

Edited by mignash, 31 August 2011 - 04:30 PM.


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Posted 31 August 2011 - 06:19 PM

mignash I don't understand why you feel the need to defend the KO people as if they're the victim in this, but whatever.

I'm sure this KO will be popular with some.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 07:47 PM

Razorclaw is RLY MAD. And easy to troll, too.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 08:09 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Aug 31 2011, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
mignash I don't understand why you feel the need to defend the KO people as if they're the victim in this, but whatever.

I'm sure this KO will be popular with some.

Randy


I didn't defend anyone. I don't expect them to pay the artist of the art they pulled on google images and pasted on their box. I don't expect that that artist who made the image expect a check in the mail for it either. This however is the KO toy forum, where we talk about the KO toys.

Edited by mignash, 31 August 2011 - 08:10 PM.


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Posted 31 August 2011 - 08:40 PM

Has anyone preordered yet? I'm wondering if they charge you for the preorder or for when it ships.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 12:19 PM

I despise the fact that these things exist, and I despise the fact that people support their production by buying them. Once they reach the secondary market, people are going to get swindled -- intentionally or not.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 12:40 PM

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I despise the fact that these things exist, and I despise the fact that people support their production by buying them. Once they reach the secondary market, people are going to get swindled -- intentionally or not.

Those are my thoughts as well, though lately I no longer get upset at seeing new ones - I guess I've grown dull to the pain.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 12:56 PM

And here I was customizing one of my spare Rodimi into this guy. Looks like I may be changing directions.