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@  MEDdMI : (19 December 2018 - 01:00 AM)

The left half, of course

@  Paladin : (18 December 2018 - 02:22 PM)

depends on which half...

@  MEDdMI : (18 December 2018 - 01:43 PM)

isn't half the fun of streaking having people see you?

@  wonko the sane? : (18 December 2018 - 12:52 PM)

bad place for streaks and streakers.

@  Paladin : (18 December 2018 - 08:52 AM)

glass house? :p

@  MEDdMI : (18 December 2018 - 08:39 AM)

Stay out of Mayhem. Those people are nuts.

@  Pennpenn : (18 December 2018 - 02:24 AM)

Welcome back! It's a sub menu in General Discussion

@  Autobot Method : (17 December 2018 - 10:01 PM)

We still got fun and games? I haven't logged in in years. Sup everyone

@  Waspinator : (17 December 2018 - 12:29 AM)

I'd say it's more of a crushing sensation than a sucking one.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 December 2018 - 09:57 PM)

Whole heartedly agree.

@  Paladin : (16 December 2018 - 07:22 PM)

migraines suck.

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 December 2018 - 04:39 PM)

They may have had it earlier than that; Risa uses weather control tech to maintain its resort-style climate, and it was shown to already be established in the late 22nd century

@  wonko the sane? : (16 December 2018 - 03:13 PM)

By next gen they had weather control on earth, and were even in the process of upgrading the geologic stability network. So yeah: habitat maintenance on the next level.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 December 2018 - 02:51 PM)

Something something invert polarity something technobabble something.

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 December 2018 - 02:38 PM)

I imagine World War III managed to decimate enough of the industrial economies that they inadvertently managed to exceed their carbon reduction targets from the Paris Accords, and then by the time Earth got back on its feet after the development of warp drive and first contact with the Vulcans, electricity was able to be generated cleanly and much more efficiently

@  The Doctor Who : (16 December 2018 - 01:48 PM)

I mean, they have futuristic weather control satellites and everything, I would imagine that global warming is a thing of the past in Trek.

@  unluckiness : (16 December 2018 - 09:39 AM)

How's that unrealistic? Not even the ocean wants it.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 December 2018 - 01:35 AM)

The most unrealistic thing (from a U.S. perspective) is that Florida isn't underwater!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 December 2018 - 01:35 AM)

I was reminded today of a funny thing about Star Trek:

@  Pennpenn : (15 December 2018 - 09:58 PM)

Whatever they can sell it for?

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 December 2018 - 09:48 PM)

Geez, WTF do those China sellers on eBay need my phone number for?

@  Pennpenn : (15 December 2018 - 09:44 PM)

Does the PotP voyager Starscream's chest stick out so far in combiner torso mode? It's kinda weird how much Elita Infinite's back seems so empty up top but very... protruding lower down.

@  Pennpenn : (15 December 2018 - 01:26 AM)

Trying to fit Elita One's combiner head back into her torso is a pain in the arse (and not just because her torso becomes her arse in combiner torso mode)

@  RichardT1977 : (14 December 2018 - 10:04 PM)

Power corrupts and corruption empowers.

@  Echowarrior : (14 December 2018 - 07:10 PM)

Welcome to real life...at least until enough people get fed up and they break out the guillotines.

@  Pennpenn : (14 December 2018 - 06:58 PM)

It's almost as if the people with the most money have funneled money into making the systems of government and law serve their purposes in retaining their wealth, no matter how harmful, counterintuitive, or just flat out evil they have to be. Huh.

@  Rycochet : (14 December 2018 - 02:49 PM)

https://www.motherjones.com/media/2015/10/mother-jones-vandersloot-melaleuca-lawsuit/

@  Rycochet : (14 December 2018 - 02:45 PM)

Some states have laws against that, but they're in a tiny minority. There are plenty of cases where rich people have gone after journalists and their employers for accurate reporting, lost, but still left their targets saddled with hundreds of thousands ofdollars in legal fees and no hope of recovering anyof the money because a partisan judge has decreed that while they're innocent, they're not innocent enough.

@  Rycochet : (14 December 2018 - 02:43 PM)

The american system is as bad, there are plenty of cases of billionaires or corporations filing libel suits purely to kill reporting or activisim against their activities. SLAPP suits. Strategic Lawsuits against public participation.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 December 2018 - 12:48 PM)

e.g. British libel laws place the burden of proof on the accuser, which is how we wind up with Emirati billionaires suing Western journalists in British courts

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 December 2018 - 12:46 PM)

Never visited the UK in my life, but reading about British laws in the news gives me the vibe that British culture inherently protects the wealthy and established.

@  Anonymous X : (14 December 2018 - 12:39 PM)

Sounds a lot better than labour law in the UK. It's bare minimum standards here, you don't get any employment rights as such in the first two years of employment (and the employer can arbitrarily reset the clock). Unions are limited to a few public sector professions as well; in the private sector, there basically aren't any unions.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:25 PM)

Bonus points if your company has a works council. The employer is required by law to hear the works council prior to giving you your termination. The works council cannot prevent your termination if the employer really insists on going through with it, but if the employer failed to hear the works council, didn't wait for the works council to respond, or failed to tell the works council *all* the relevant details, the termination is legally invalid due to a technicality.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:23 PM)

The employer has to tell you the reason for your termination if you explicitly ask for it, and if you can prove the reason is factually incorrect, the employer may lose the case.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:21 PM)

For all its flaws, I really like a lot about our German labor law. Here, if you're under a permanent contract and have been continually employed for over six months, employers can only fire you for reasons that fall into one of three categories defined by law, and the burden of proof is on the employer's side in a potential court case.

@  Paladin : (13 December 2018 - 05:38 PM)

in brightest day or blackest night?

@  Bass X0 : (13 December 2018 - 05:25 PM)

Finally we get a Greenlight toy.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 December 2018 - 04:58 PM)

See.. In America they would just fire you for having the wrong color shoes on or some BS reason.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:13 AM)

And hey, in addition to the clocked extra hours, I earned an additional 50% overtime bonus.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:12 AM)

This past Saturday, in full expectance of a strike this week, I worked a full extra shift. They assigned me and some of the other volunteers to a totally pointless task, while some ladies were seriously sweeping the floor. When asked how long I was planning to stay, I smiled and said "a full shift!"

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:10 AM)

"You were asking for volunteers, right? I'm staying." - "But we have no more work for you!" - "I don't see how that's *my* problem..."

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:10 AM)

It's possible to use that to troll the employer a little, though... Once they allow voluntary overtime, they cannot backtrack from that. So once you notice you're rapidly running out of work, you just decide to do overtime out of spite.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:08 AM)

Now if there's *no* strike... people eventually run out of work.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:07 AM)

Amazon is prepared for strikes... they just hire way too many people for the Christmas season. If there's a strike, they still have enough (albeit inexperienced) workers.

@  Steevy Maximus : (12 December 2018 - 07:49 PM)

Not one bit :p

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (12 December 2018 - 06:46 PM)

@Steevy Did you read TM2's post? "Amazon.de".

@  Paladin : (12 December 2018 - 06:37 PM)

just wait until the European economy collapses up its Brexit-shaped asshole.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 December 2018 - 06:22 PM)

Probably not a ton of people, no. Although I'd say I order from one European Amazon site once every month or two, myself. Usually UK, but sometimes Germany as well. France and Italy a couple times, too. There are some good Blu-Ray releases that are exclusive to Europe

@  Steevy Maximus : (12 December 2018 - 06:00 PM)

I'm not sure a European strike is going to impact North American customers.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 December 2018 - 04:13 PM)

Well, somebody must've been working 'cuz I had an order in with Amazon.de that got shipped out the other day


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#1 RC85747

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 07:31 PM

Thought this new place could use a forum in order to reflect on the past of MLP. Remember Humans? Witches? Trolls? Sea Ponies? Remember when ponies could not be taken seriously as an obsession? I barely saw any of it, but you might have.

Remember, the past isn't even past.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 06:24 AM

Before Friendship is Magic I tried to forget that My Little Pony existed. I still try to forget that stuff from before existed. FiM is pretty much the only value ever derived from the franchise.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 01:17 PM

I grew up watching the original series on Disney channel every afternoon. Though I don't remember a whole lot of episodes. I remember they seemed to constantly be under attack from various baddies, though.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 01:20 PM



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Posted 07 August 2011 - 06:08 PM

I watched some of the original show back when I was very young due to having an older sister, but just barely remembered it. After I fell in love with FiM, I scavenged around online and watched the whole original series. Overall it's not what I would call great, but it has its moments and is a fun watch.

It's got a few suprisingly dark villians , including an immortal demon goat who is trying to enslave Dream Valley and a horned-centaur creature who transforms ponies into horrible mindless beasts and plans to create a night that never ends. Even the less dark villians are pretty heinous, like a penguin who has decided that anyone who can't survive arctic conditions doesn't deserve to live, a woman with a possible addiction to a power enhancing potion who threatens to throw a baby pony into a chasm, a woman who tries to steal baby ponies to make them pets, a witch who steals the youth and magic of ponies to make herself younger....it's all definitely not what I would have thought 80's pony villans would be like. Dream Valley is always a justiposition between cute pony antics and someone trying to kill, enslave, or make all the ponies miserable. It's frankly suprising the ponies aren't all gone.

There's some silly episodes, of course, and many of the villains are swayed by the power of friendship, but it's fun regardless. There's a large cast, but everyone has their own personality, and you eventually get to the point where you can actually keep everyone's name straigt.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 06:36 PM

I found Rescue at Midnight Castle (Pilot for the first G1 series) rather interesting to watch - it's quite revealing how many concepts and character types were carried over to FiM. Of course it's not 'Great' - by modern (Well, not just modern...) standards, the pacing is fantastically poor, character- and plot-development happen in a 'Ten Seconds Flat' fashion, and the 'Throw in a human kid so the kids can relate to the show' concept that never, ever works because kids don't want to be kids when thinking about the show's fictional universe, they want to be [Enter badass character here] is of course well and truly alive (It was back then and apparently still is, looking at Transformers: Prime... One wonders how FiM managed to avoid this). At the very least, you'd have thought that they'd make it a two-parter, considering the immense amount of content in the episode. As it is, plot/ character development/ introductions are ridiculously rushed.

Still, I certainly don't consider the time spent watching it wasted. It's not - at least not by eighties' cartoon standards - a bad episode, and it gives some really interesting background on just how much of the FiM pilot in particular was, in reality, based on G1. Not just character concepts, but also plot et al.

And the permanently-heard 'It was too cute/ girly/ non-violent' complaint concerning older pony generation cartoons is well and truly demolished for the first series. It's quite a bit more, not less terrifying than FiM.

And the earworms. Can't forget the earworms. Shoo be doo, shoo shoo be doo o/

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE(Rezo @ Aug 7 2011, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(One wonders how FiM managed to avoid this).


From what I heard, it was one element of the show that Faust was totally inflexible about (thank gog). No humans, no way, no how.


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Posted 07 August 2011 - 08:19 PM

QUOTE(Pennpenn @ Aug 8 2011, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE(Rezo @ Aug 7 2011, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(One wonders how FiM managed to avoid this).


From what I heard, it was one element of the show that Faust was totally inflexible about (thank gog). No humans, no way, no how.






if only Transformer show producers had the same amount of backbone

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 08:38 PM

Probably fiddlier to keep the humans out in Transformers, though. With Pony things you can distance most elements from humans. With Transformers, the need to usually set it on a modern-ish Earth so that the vehicle modes are (mostly) modern and thus appealing to the audience, it's just inevitable that humans are going to get involved at some point. After that, you can't get rid of the little buggers.

The fact that the humans are generally badly implimented is irrelevant.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 10:06 PM

The pilot episode, Rescue at Midnight Castle, was by far the best episode of the entire G1 series. The animation style for the ponies and even Megan was really good for an 80's cartoon. I really liked Megan's Ranch style clothes she wore during this pilot episode and the ponies had a lot of good detail in how they were drawn and animated.



The villain, Tirek, was IMO the best villain of the series. It's too bad he only lasted in the pilot episode. I hope that he makes a future appearance in FiM.


But then the animation style went to scrap when Escape from Catrina (the second episode before the movie) aired. The ponies and even Megan were very poorly drawn in comparison to the pilot episode.

And then, the movie came out with the rest of the series following it. The animation style was just as bad as "Escape From Catrina" and Megan now wears frilly clothes that I never cared much for. She is also accompanied by her younger sister and brother. (Note the camera Megan is holding? You know this show is old when you see a camera that uses the old flash cubes. My mom had one of those!)


I didn't mind much the difference in animation style in comparison to the pilot episode when I watched that old G1 series back in the 80's with my little sister. But now, everything from Escape From Catrina, the Movie, and the rest of the G1 series just bugs the crap out of me. The ponies are fatter, have smaller ears, and basically look like malnourished hippos that sound like they have a head cold.

However, the pilot episode "Rescue at Midnight Castle" remains far superior in animation quality than all the rest of the series that followed it in the 80's. The music, animation, and story (as short as it was) is top notch, IMO, for an old 80's cartoon. I just wish the rest of the G1 series had followed that same quality.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 10:07 PM

I never seen the G1 ponies, but seeing how they were made back in the 80s before any real standard of what a cartoon should be was expected, having a dark element wasn't unheard of. Before they realized dark villains might scare the kiddies. (scary, scary mightmare moon icon-screamer.gif )

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 10:29 PM

That is one serious animation drop. Was AKOM involved? icon-fire.gif

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 11:10 PM

Ya know, when I made my posts, those pictures weren't there. >.>

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Posted 08 August 2011 - 05:41 AM

QUOTE(Guardian Prime @ Aug 7 2011, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The pilot episode, Rescue at Midnight Castle, was by far the best episode of the entire G1 series. The animation style for the ponies and even Megan was really good for an 80's cartoon. I really liked Megan's Ranch style clothes she wore during this pilot episode and the ponies had a lot of good detail in how they were drawn and animated.

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The villain, Tirek, was IMO the best villain of the series. It's too bad he only lasted in the pilot episode. I hope that he makes a future appearance in FiM.

<More snips>

But then the animation style went to scrap when Escape from Catrina (the second episode before the movie) aired. The ponies and even Megan were very poorly drawn in comparison to the pilot episode.

And then, the movie came out with the rest of the series following it. The animation style was just as bad as "Escape From Catrina" and Megan now wears frilly clothes that I never cared much for. She is also accompanied by her younger sister and brother. (Note the camera Megan is holding? You know this show is old when you see a camera that uses the old flash cubes. My mom had one of those!)

<OH JESUS CHRIST SNIP IT!>

I didn't mind much the difference in animation style in comparison to the pilot episode when I watched that old G1 series back in the 80's with my little sister. But now, everything from Escape From Catrina, the Movie, and the rest of the G1 series just bugs the crap out of me. The ponies are fatter, have smaller ears, and basically look like malnourished hippos that sound like they have a head cold.

However, the pilot episode "Rescue at Midnight Castle" remains far superior in animation quality than all the rest of the series that followed it in the 80's. The music, animation, and story (as short as it was) is top notch, IMO, for an old 80's cartoon. I just wish the rest of the G1 series had followed that same quality.
Odd how such a drop could occur within the same season, indeed, right between episodes one and two. There's got to be some interesting backstory on that somewhere.

Hm. You know, considering Ms. Faust's personal approach of 'Nightmare Moon is a dark force of whatever that took over Luna' (Inofficial opinion only, of course, but still), Luna's subsequent salvation included, and the fairly obvious relation of that concept to Midnight Castle's Scorpan (Spelling?), it'd be... Not all that surprising if something that references Tirek rather heavily makes an appearance in season 2.

OTOH, NMM may well be considered a merger and reinterpretation of the Scorpan/ Tirek character (Scorpan's willingness to leave his opponents alive and his eventual salvation, Tirek's motives and the manner of his eventual defeat), which would shoot that idea down.

Edited by Rezo, 08 August 2011 - 05:43 AM.


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Posted 08 August 2011 - 05:57 PM

while i've never seen G1, except for the movie, (which was painful by the way), i can definitely say that it did have something going for it, with the villains mentioned earlier

i really wish those kinds of villains were aloud to exist in today's cartoons, it would really make FIM even better
oh wait they might scare the children, even though, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AFRAID OF THEM, THEY ARE VILLAINS
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Posted 19 September 2015 - 11:04 PM

The pilot episode, Rescue at Midnight Castle, was by far the best episode of the entire G1 series. The animation style for the ponies and even Megan was really good for an 80's cartoon. I really liked Megan's Ranch style clothes she wore during this pilot episode and the ponies had a lot of good detail in how they were drawn and animated.
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The villain, Tirek, was IMO the best villain of the series. It's too bad he only lasted in the pilot episode. I hope that he makes a future appearance in FiM.
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But then the animation style went to scrap when Escape from Catrina (the second episode before the movie) aired. The ponies and even Megan were very poorly drawn in comparison to the pilot episode.

And then, the movie came out with the rest of the series following it. The animation style was just as bad as "Escape From Catrina" and Megan now wears frilly clothes that I never cared much for. She is also accompanied by her younger sister and brother. (Note the camera Megan is holding? You know this show is old when you see a camera that uses the old flash cubes. My mom had one of those!)
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I didn't mind much the difference in animation style in comparison to the pilot episode when I watched that old G1 series back in the 80's with my little sister. But now, everything from Escape From Catrina, the Movie, and the rest of the G1 series just bugs the crap out of me. The ponies are fatter, have smaller ears, and basically look like malnourished hippos that sound like they have a head cold.

However, the pilot episode "Rescue at Midnight Castle" remains far superior in animation quality than all the rest of the series that followed it in the 80's. The music, animation, and story (as short as it was) is top notch, IMO, for an old 80's cartoon. I just wish the rest of the G1 series had followed that same quality.

 

 

(I know this is old, but I still wanna state my opinion here)

 

I completely disagree with you about the drawing for the MLP 80's series after Rescue from Midnight Castle. I don't think it looks

 

The ponies from Escape from Catrina onward don't look like malnourished hippos (how would they even be malnourished if you said they were fatter anyway? ?___?

They look chubby to me, and what's wrong with ponies being chubby? They're cute); they still look like horses/ponies to me! Hippos would have rounder snouts and little nostrils and circular ears! Those ponies' ears there still are pointed, even if they're smaller. Look at this drawing of a hippo: http://www.drawingco...cartoon_st5.gif

 

They don't look anything like that!

 

And how would them "sounding like they had a head cold" (which they don't) or anything doing with voice acting have to do with animation/art? That's irrelevant.

 

And Megan wearing frilly clothes? This is a show meant for GIRLS, not boys.

 

And from what I've seen with people talking about the previous generations on here, come on. If it weren't for them, FiM wouldn't have existed today. FiM is not the only good thing from the My Little Pony franchise. I would also say that while the FiM ponies do look like horses/ponies, the G1s are more realistic.


Edited by Seiya Meteorite, 20 September 2015 - 08:11 AM.


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Posted 19 September 2015 - 11:09 PM

oh, fresh meat! :p

 

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Posted 19 September 2015 - 11:15 PM

Wha? I don't think I've even seen this thread before! How odd. But yeah, you'll find most of the people who still romp around here have nothing but respect, if not love for G1. A small group of us even when through the entire series episode at a time. Good times. 

 

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Edit: Just in case you wanted to see some of our thoughts on G1. It's kinda lengthy, but here ya go. 

 

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Posted 19 September 2015 - 11:26 PM

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