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@  Whirl Maximus : (23 October 2018 - 02:03 AM)

I'm mixed about the millions of years thing, it's somewhat at odds when transformers are humanized as they often are.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 October 2018 - 11:59 PM)

Are any of the Transformers terribly bright, really? This is a spacefaring civilization that's millions of years old that seem to be fighting a perpetual war for no particular reason. Transformers are stupider than humans

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2018 - 08:31 PM)

Depends on the machine. Are you recruiting them, or MAKING them?

@  Cybersnark : (22 October 2018 - 08:30 PM)

... And not terribly bright.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2018 - 07:51 PM)

Makes sense for robot soldiers: you would want something fast, low profile, but lots of power.

@  Waspinator : (22 October 2018 - 06:31 PM)

If we go by the Prime cartoon, sports cars apparently ARE the expendable troop of choice.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 October 2018 - 04:29 PM)

Just fold 'em into a box and slap some wheels on it, they'll figure it out.

@  Pennpenn : (22 October 2018 - 01:57 AM)

Given that by the time we're up to in the story Functionalism had been dead for millions of years and many of the people around were made during and for the war, it's probably more likely that "sports car shaped thing" was an easy to make alt mode for expendable troops.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 09:52 PM)

maybe there's underground demolition derbies too

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 09:25 PM)

Every single sports car was one of those two jobs? Considering how many there seem to be....

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 07:34 PM)

Athletic Entertainment

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 October 2018 - 03:32 PM)

It's mentioned in one issue that Bumblebee was a courier. The only other fast cars I can remember seeing in Functionist times were Blur and a couple of Stunticons, as racers.

@  SG Roadbuster : (21 October 2018 - 12:14 PM)

i figured the sports cars were either racers or couriers.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 12:13 PM)

Upper Class. They're clearly not made for manual labor.

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 12:09 PM)

Functionism only really makes sense for certain alternate modes like mining or construction equipment; where do things like sports cars fit in?

@  Xellos : (21 October 2018 - 11:51 AM)

At least in the movies they can switch to a (similar) alt mode at will, it seems. Especially if they want to sell more toys per movie.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2018 - 10:44 AM)

They are a race of adaptive machines. Maybe they were expected to change themselves to fit the role?

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 10:06 AM)

IDW-verse discrimination still made more sense than the backstory in TF: Exodus, where everyone's caste was assigned seemingly at random with no regard for their aptitudes (altmode or otherwise)

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:55 AM)

Lost Light is good too, so far.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:54 AM)

I'm not terribly into Transformers in general, but I did mostly enjoy the More Than Meets The Eye series.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:11 AM)

Which has been in the state constitution since 1946, but was never actually executed according to documents, and is currently not in effect because the German federal constitution, which takes priority over state constitution, has banned the death penalty back in 1949.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:09 AM)

Huh. So next weekend, when the German state of Hesse will have its state election, there will also be a ballot about changing the state constitution... and one of the proposed changes will be abolishing the death penalty.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

I really need to read those comics

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:28 AM)

Up to and including the fact that certain alternate modes could end up being classified as "surplus to requirements" and systematically murdered.

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:26 AM)

And in IDW comics where it is/was literally a form of apartheid where your alternate mode pretty much dictated how you were treated by society, what jobs you could pursue, pretty much everything.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 02:24 AM)

We do get hints of that from time to time in Transformers, with stuff like some jets acting smug towards cars and whatnot.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 October 2018 - 08:10 PM)

"No shotgun of Mine is going to marry a rocket launcher" sounds like something that Targetmasters (or WFC Siege Micromasters) might say...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 08:06 PM)

The characters are actually kinda nice. Sure a bunch of them are from New Jersey, but you get a few aliens too.. But if you do that, you might want to go digital delux verisons.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:38 PM)

My only issue is that the aside from Fox, the looks of the characters are kinda bland. If anything, I'll at least get it on Black Friday, as they almost always have deals on the toys to life stuff.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 06:07 PM)

Well I can tell you, if you are going physical version because you want the toys. The Switch version has the best Ship mount as you just slide the joycons into it. The PS4 ship mount is wired. The game itself is very good in my opionion. In some ways it starts to turn into an RTS without being an RTS. You've got to start focus on keeping your planets from being taken back over. It has a LOT to do. It does have some repitive missions, because well, trying to let you level up all pilots and ships and such. The switch version -ALSO- has starfox only missions and the characters are incorporated into the story.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:03 PM)

How is Starlink anyways? Been thinking of getting the Switch version for StarFox, which is quite unusal for me, as I almost always pick the PS4 versions (favorite controller and I already have so many Trophys on it).

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:42 PM)

No shotgun of mine is going to marry a rocket launcher!

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 October 2018 - 05:22 PM)

Should they be allowed to marry outside of their own caliber?

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:18 PM)

I'm conflicted on the subject of marriage rights for shotguns.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:24 PM)

You say, "Damn it, what do you think this is, a shotgun wedding?"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:23 PM)

What do you do if someone wants to bring their concealed-carry to your American wedding?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 01:58 PM)

Benbot, I was streaming the PS4 version of Starlink

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:25 PM)

Ergo their reporting will have its own slant on the facts as they choose, not the most neutral way possible.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:24 PM)

I find it sad to realize that the prestigious New York Times which I trusted a lot as a kid in fact has its own editorial agenda.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:20 PM)

The end result is NOT that stupid bullshit gets equal coverage as reasonable arguments. That would be problematic in itself (the "false balance" bias), but the provlem is that the controversial stupid bullshit gets MORE coverage than the reasonable arguments.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

The media doesn't want to miss the opportunity to report on a controversy, and as a consequence makes sure that the controversial statements reach an audience.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

Because they realized that saying controversial shit is guaranteed to get coverage.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:16 PM)

It's the same here in Germany. Our right-wing moron party is still a political minority, yet they succeed in driving the topics the media keeps reporting.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:15 PM)

The main problem was that Trump was banking on controversy, and the media was reporting controversy because it gave them ratings.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:15 PM)

"Fairness" was not the media's main problem.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 October 2018 - 11:40 AM)

Holy fish! Second life is still a thing?!?!

@  Benbot : (20 October 2018 - 08:32 AM)

What were you streaming, Silverclaw?

@  Shrug : (20 October 2018 - 05:28 AM)

Russian interference should have been fighting an uphill battle, but as far as I'm concerned we gave them a head start.

@  Shrug : (20 October 2018 - 05:23 AM)

I disagree with Hillary being a good choice to run against Trump. Plenty of mixed feelings about her long before 2016 within our own party. When the DNC has to rig it's own primaries to get their chosen candidate running, maybe you shouldn't expect an easy landslide at the actual election.

@  Pennpenn : (20 October 2018 - 05:20 AM)

It would have also helped if the US was also an actualy democracy where the candidate who gets the most votes wins, but hey.


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#1 RC85747

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 07:31 PM

Thought this new place could use a forum in order to reflect on the past of MLP. Remember Humans? Witches? Trolls? Sea Ponies? Remember when ponies could not be taken seriously as an obsession? I barely saw any of it, but you might have.

Remember, the past isn't even past.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 06:24 AM

Before Friendship is Magic I tried to forget that My Little Pony existed. I still try to forget that stuff from before existed. FiM is pretty much the only value ever derived from the franchise.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 01:17 PM

I grew up watching the original series on Disney channel every afternoon. Though I don't remember a whole lot of episodes. I remember they seemed to constantly be under attack from various baddies, though.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 01:20 PM



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Posted 07 August 2011 - 06:08 PM

I watched some of the original show back when I was very young due to having an older sister, but just barely remembered it. After I fell in love with FiM, I scavenged around online and watched the whole original series. Overall it's not what I would call great, but it has its moments and is a fun watch.

It's got a few suprisingly dark villians , including an immortal demon goat who is trying to enslave Dream Valley and a horned-centaur creature who transforms ponies into horrible mindless beasts and plans to create a night that never ends. Even the less dark villians are pretty heinous, like a penguin who has decided that anyone who can't survive arctic conditions doesn't deserve to live, a woman with a possible addiction to a power enhancing potion who threatens to throw a baby pony into a chasm, a woman who tries to steal baby ponies to make them pets, a witch who steals the youth and magic of ponies to make herself younger....it's all definitely not what I would have thought 80's pony villans would be like. Dream Valley is always a justiposition between cute pony antics and someone trying to kill, enslave, or make all the ponies miserable. It's frankly suprising the ponies aren't all gone.

There's some silly episodes, of course, and many of the villains are swayed by the power of friendship, but it's fun regardless. There's a large cast, but everyone has their own personality, and you eventually get to the point where you can actually keep everyone's name straigt.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 06:36 PM

I found Rescue at Midnight Castle (Pilot for the first G1 series) rather interesting to watch - it's quite revealing how many concepts and character types were carried over to FiM. Of course it's not 'Great' - by modern (Well, not just modern...) standards, the pacing is fantastically poor, character- and plot-development happen in a 'Ten Seconds Flat' fashion, and the 'Throw in a human kid so the kids can relate to the show' concept that never, ever works because kids don't want to be kids when thinking about the show's fictional universe, they want to be [Enter badass character here] is of course well and truly alive (It was back then and apparently still is, looking at Transformers: Prime... One wonders how FiM managed to avoid this). At the very least, you'd have thought that they'd make it a two-parter, considering the immense amount of content in the episode. As it is, plot/ character development/ introductions are ridiculously rushed.

Still, I certainly don't consider the time spent watching it wasted. It's not - at least not by eighties' cartoon standards - a bad episode, and it gives some really interesting background on just how much of the FiM pilot in particular was, in reality, based on G1. Not just character concepts, but also plot et al.

And the permanently-heard 'It was too cute/ girly/ non-violent' complaint concerning older pony generation cartoons is well and truly demolished for the first series. It's quite a bit more, not less terrifying than FiM.

And the earworms. Can't forget the earworms. Shoo be doo, shoo shoo be doo o/

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE(Rezo @ Aug 7 2011, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(One wonders how FiM managed to avoid this).


From what I heard, it was one element of the show that Faust was totally inflexible about (thank gog). No humans, no way, no how.


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Posted 07 August 2011 - 08:19 PM

QUOTE(Pennpenn @ Aug 8 2011, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE(Rezo @ Aug 7 2011, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(One wonders how FiM managed to avoid this).


From what I heard, it was one element of the show that Faust was totally inflexible about (thank gog). No humans, no way, no how.






if only Transformer show producers had the same amount of backbone

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 08:38 PM

Probably fiddlier to keep the humans out in Transformers, though. With Pony things you can distance most elements from humans. With Transformers, the need to usually set it on a modern-ish Earth so that the vehicle modes are (mostly) modern and thus appealing to the audience, it's just inevitable that humans are going to get involved at some point. After that, you can't get rid of the little buggers.

The fact that the humans are generally badly implimented is irrelevant.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 10:06 PM

The pilot episode, Rescue at Midnight Castle, was by far the best episode of the entire G1 series. The animation style for the ponies and even Megan was really good for an 80's cartoon. I really liked Megan's Ranch style clothes she wore during this pilot episode and the ponies had a lot of good detail in how they were drawn and animated.



The villain, Tirek, was IMO the best villain of the series. It's too bad he only lasted in the pilot episode. I hope that he makes a future appearance in FiM.


But then the animation style went to scrap when Escape from Catrina (the second episode before the movie) aired. The ponies and even Megan were very poorly drawn in comparison to the pilot episode.

And then, the movie came out with the rest of the series following it. The animation style was just as bad as "Escape From Catrina" and Megan now wears frilly clothes that I never cared much for. She is also accompanied by her younger sister and brother. (Note the camera Megan is holding? You know this show is old when you see a camera that uses the old flash cubes. My mom had one of those!)


I didn't mind much the difference in animation style in comparison to the pilot episode when I watched that old G1 series back in the 80's with my little sister. But now, everything from Escape From Catrina, the Movie, and the rest of the G1 series just bugs the crap out of me. The ponies are fatter, have smaller ears, and basically look like malnourished hippos that sound like they have a head cold.

However, the pilot episode "Rescue at Midnight Castle" remains far superior in animation quality than all the rest of the series that followed it in the 80's. The music, animation, and story (as short as it was) is top notch, IMO, for an old 80's cartoon. I just wish the rest of the G1 series had followed that same quality.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 10:07 PM

I never seen the G1 ponies, but seeing how they were made back in the 80s before any real standard of what a cartoon should be was expected, having a dark element wasn't unheard of. Before they realized dark villains might scare the kiddies. (scary, scary mightmare moon icon-screamer.gif )

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 10:29 PM

That is one serious animation drop. Was AKOM involved? icon-fire.gif

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 11:10 PM

Ya know, when I made my posts, those pictures weren't there. >.>

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Posted 08 August 2011 - 05:41 AM

QUOTE(Guardian Prime @ Aug 7 2011, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The pilot episode, Rescue at Midnight Castle, was by far the best episode of the entire G1 series. The animation style for the ponies and even Megan was really good for an 80's cartoon. I really liked Megan's Ranch style clothes she wore during this pilot episode and the ponies had a lot of good detail in how they were drawn and animated.

<snip images>

The villain, Tirek, was IMO the best villain of the series. It's too bad he only lasted in the pilot episode. I hope that he makes a future appearance in FiM.

<More snips>

But then the animation style went to scrap when Escape from Catrina (the second episode before the movie) aired. The ponies and even Megan were very poorly drawn in comparison to the pilot episode.

And then, the movie came out with the rest of the series following it. The animation style was just as bad as "Escape From Catrina" and Megan now wears frilly clothes that I never cared much for. She is also accompanied by her younger sister and brother. (Note the camera Megan is holding? You know this show is old when you see a camera that uses the old flash cubes. My mom had one of those!)

<OH JESUS CHRIST SNIP IT!>

I didn't mind much the difference in animation style in comparison to the pilot episode when I watched that old G1 series back in the 80's with my little sister. But now, everything from Escape From Catrina, the Movie, and the rest of the G1 series just bugs the crap out of me. The ponies are fatter, have smaller ears, and basically look like malnourished hippos that sound like they have a head cold.

However, the pilot episode "Rescue at Midnight Castle" remains far superior in animation quality than all the rest of the series that followed it in the 80's. The music, animation, and story (as short as it was) is top notch, IMO, for an old 80's cartoon. I just wish the rest of the G1 series had followed that same quality.
Odd how such a drop could occur within the same season, indeed, right between episodes one and two. There's got to be some interesting backstory on that somewhere.

Hm. You know, considering Ms. Faust's personal approach of 'Nightmare Moon is a dark force of whatever that took over Luna' (Inofficial opinion only, of course, but still), Luna's subsequent salvation included, and the fairly obvious relation of that concept to Midnight Castle's Scorpan (Spelling?), it'd be... Not all that surprising if something that references Tirek rather heavily makes an appearance in season 2.

OTOH, NMM may well be considered a merger and reinterpretation of the Scorpan/ Tirek character (Scorpan's willingness to leave his opponents alive and his eventual salvation, Tirek's motives and the manner of his eventual defeat), which would shoot that idea down.

Edited by Rezo, 08 August 2011 - 05:43 AM.


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Posted 08 August 2011 - 05:57 PM

while i've never seen G1, except for the movie, (which was painful by the way), i can definitely say that it did have something going for it, with the villains mentioned earlier

i really wish those kinds of villains were aloud to exist in today's cartoons, it would really make FIM even better
oh wait they might scare the children, even though, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AFRAID OF THEM, THEY ARE VILLAINS
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Posted 19 September 2015 - 11:04 PM

The pilot episode, Rescue at Midnight Castle, was by far the best episode of the entire G1 series. The animation style for the ponies and even Megan was really good for an 80's cartoon. I really liked Megan's Ranch style clothes she wore during this pilot episode and the ponies had a lot of good detail in how they were drawn and animated.
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The villain, Tirek, was IMO the best villain of the series. It's too bad he only lasted in the pilot episode. I hope that he makes a future appearance in FiM.
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But then the animation style went to scrap when Escape from Catrina (the second episode before the movie) aired. The ponies and even Megan were very poorly drawn in comparison to the pilot episode.

And then, the movie came out with the rest of the series following it. The animation style was just as bad as "Escape From Catrina" and Megan now wears frilly clothes that I never cared much for. She is also accompanied by her younger sister and brother. (Note the camera Megan is holding? You know this show is old when you see a camera that uses the old flash cubes. My mom had one of those!)
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I didn't mind much the difference in animation style in comparison to the pilot episode when I watched that old G1 series back in the 80's with my little sister. But now, everything from Escape From Catrina, the Movie, and the rest of the G1 series just bugs the crap out of me. The ponies are fatter, have smaller ears, and basically look like malnourished hippos that sound like they have a head cold.

However, the pilot episode "Rescue at Midnight Castle" remains far superior in animation quality than all the rest of the series that followed it in the 80's. The music, animation, and story (as short as it was) is top notch, IMO, for an old 80's cartoon. I just wish the rest of the G1 series had followed that same quality.

 

 

(I know this is old, but I still wanna state my opinion here)

 

I completely disagree with you about the drawing for the MLP 80's series after Rescue from Midnight Castle. I don't think it looks

 

The ponies from Escape from Catrina onward don't look like malnourished hippos (how would they even be malnourished if you said they were fatter anyway? ?___?

They look chubby to me, and what's wrong with ponies being chubby? They're cute); they still look like horses/ponies to me! Hippos would have rounder snouts and little nostrils and circular ears! Those ponies' ears there still are pointed, even if they're smaller. Look at this drawing of a hippo: http://www.drawingco...cartoon_st5.gif

 

They don't look anything like that!

 

And how would them "sounding like they had a head cold" (which they don't) or anything doing with voice acting have to do with animation/art? That's irrelevant.

 

And Megan wearing frilly clothes? This is a show meant for GIRLS, not boys.

 

And from what I've seen with people talking about the previous generations on here, come on. If it weren't for them, FiM wouldn't have existed today. FiM is not the only good thing from the My Little Pony franchise. I would also say that while the FiM ponies do look like horses/ponies, the G1s are more realistic.


Edited by Seiya Meteorite, 20 September 2015 - 08:11 AM.


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Posted 19 September 2015 - 11:09 PM

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Posted 19 September 2015 - 11:15 PM

Wha? I don't think I've even seen this thread before! How odd. But yeah, you'll find most of the people who still romp around here have nothing but respect, if not love for G1. A small group of us even when through the entire series episode at a time. Good times. 

 

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Posted 19 September 2015 - 11:26 PM

welcome



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