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@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.


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Huh. I won Botcon 2011 Galvatron for ?32.90 on Ebay


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#1 Bass X0

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 06:36 PM

Thats pretty cheap for a Botcon toy, Evac was only ?20 originally. Or is Galvatron undesired? I thought for sure I'd get outbid.



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Posted 04 August 2011 - 06:49 PM

I had a similar experience. I ended up paying $62.99 for Galvatron including shipping, which according to the current currency conversions on Google comes to 38.68 pounds. Thundercracker sells for more than Galvatron these days.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 08:53 PM

Probably not much desire for the figure, and quite a few were produced compared to previous exclusives.

Perhaps if he shows up more in fiction, desire will go up.

I think just being a redeco doesn't help much. Though things like SG Optimus and SG Rodimus are expensive contrary to that fact.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 09:29 PM

Coincidentally, FP just posted a whole bunch of leftover Botcon stuff.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:02 PM

Presumably, most people wanted Thundercracker and a lot of them ended up hawking their Galvy on eBay to recoup costs. I think he probably would have been more popular if he had a new head sculpt, Primus knows I have three different EVACs already, an expensive exclusive kinda needed to bring more to the table than paint masks.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:19 PM

Plenty of expensive exclusives only bring to the table a few paint masks. Heck with just a couple exceptions, pretty much all of eHobby's exclusives are straight redecoes. Same goes for the Wonderfest toys when Takara has them. Not to mention the Million Publishing exclusives.

Besides, Evac's head is already the perfect heroic Galvatron head. That's why the toy was chosen.


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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:26 PM

EHobby's exclusives aren't expensive, though. Sure it's ~$40 for a deluxe. But United deluxes are like $35 after import markup anyway. That is, when importers aren't fleecing you ($50 for Tracks, etc) like they do with the various store exclusives.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:28 PM

I would argue that a lot of larger BotCon exclusives are perfectly fine without new heads, and that they're certainly not a "necessity." And it's not like 2011 had an odd shortage of new heads in its lineup. Sometimes expectations can be unreasonable.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 12:37 AM

I picked up a Botcon Galvatron for about that much. It seems to be about the going rate-ish.

I have to disagree about the head, though. Previous discussions make it clear that I'm a minority on that, but I think it's at best a passable head, and meaningfully different from how he looks in the comic. I understand why they didn't use a head remold when Evac's head wasn't offensively far from Galvatron's, but I'm still disappointed that a faction leader didn't get more.

No one recognizes him as Galvatron on the shelf, even though they recognize the classics Galvatron who's right beside him. I think that's more the body shape and paint than the head, though.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 05:48 AM

Is that in hand in the UK or are you paying a small fortune for shipping? It makes all the difference!

From my experience of hunting for him TC has been going for much more than Galvatron since the beginning; despite nominally being SG Thundercracker I imagine he has wider appeal as more fans see him as Classics Action Master Thundercracker. Not to mention those with their sick Classics Seeker mould obsession... icon-arcee.gif

I got my set of the two for about ?82 shipped. Even with the club having them back up at $92 for members it would work out at more than that once shipping is involved.
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Posted 05 August 2011 - 05:59 AM

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?32.90 including shipping.

Edited by Bass X0, 05 August 2011 - 05:59 AM.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 06:04 AM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 5 2011, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Is that in hand in the UK or are you paying a small fortune for shipping? It makes all the difference!


?32.90 including shipping.


Nice one! I so often see US-based auctions which look like a reasonable price before I see the shipping. ?32.90 actually almost looks like a shipping charge.
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Posted 05 August 2011 - 06:13 AM

QUOTE(kinjacono @ Aug 5 2011, 06:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to mention those with their sick Classics Seeker mould obsession... icon-arcee.gif

Huh?

I just want to clarify that I wasn't saying Galvatron needed a new head, just that not having one may make him slightly less popular (but it could be any number of things).

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 06:38 AM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Aug 5 2011, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(kinjacono @ Aug 5 2011, 06:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to mention those with their sick Classics Seeker mould obsession... icon-arcee.gif

Huh?


You could take it as a compliment! After all, I is livin' in South East London innit.

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I just want to clarify that I wasn't saying Galvatron needed a new head, just that not having one may make him slightly less popular (but it could be any number of things).


It's kind of a shame he isn't more popular, it's quite a good mould and the colour scheme is nice. That said mine's still sealed and I'm torn over selling it. Though considering the deal Bass X0 got maybe I should hang on after all.
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Posted 05 August 2011 - 08:21 AM

I'm kind of surprised that they're going for so little. I think I overpaid a bit at $85 shipped, but it was the only exclusive this year that appealed to me.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 09:13 AM

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No one recognizes him as Galvatron on the shelf,

This is demonstrably untrue. LOTS of people have gone on record as how "Galvatrony" this figure is.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 10:07 AM

It feels like kind of a red herring to be debating how much he passes for G1 Galvatron anyway, considering he ain't.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 10:10 AM

QUOTE(Darknova4life @ Aug 5 2011, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm kind of surprised that they're going for so little. I think I overpaid a bit at $85 shipped, but it was the only exclusive this year that appealed to me.

Considering they were $92 or something at the convention, plus tax people were paying around $100 for them. I'd say you didn't, unless you're just talking about Galvatron and not the pair.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 10:15 AM

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Coincidentally, FP just posted a whole bunch of leftover Botcon stuff.


I just saw that myself. You can't buy the loose sets unless you've already purchased the box set. While I sort of get the idea behind that, it still seems sort of crazy. They still have last year's loose set in stock as well. How many people will dump another 200 plus bucks on this set (except scalpers of course who can turn around and use it recoup some of their losses)?
 
 
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Posted 22 August 2011 - 06:49 AM

Just got him in the post today.

I do have a concern though, the hinge at the waist seems weaker than my Live Convoy's and I had to use a little force to transform him, although I remained cautious. I also noticed a very tiny stress mark after I had done so. Is this a common problem? I didn't get the Blades or Springer repaint so I don't know if the mold has been degrading over the years or of its new to Galvatron.


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