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@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

I really need to read those comics

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:28 AM)

Up to and including the fact that certain alternate modes could end up being classified as "surplus to requirements" and systematically murdered.

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:26 AM)

And in IDW comics where it is/was literally a form of apartheid where your alternate mode pretty much dictated how you were treated by society, what jobs you could pursue, pretty much everything.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 02:24 AM)

We do get hints of that from time to time in Transformers, with stuff like some jets acting smug towards cars and whatnot.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 October 2018 - 08:10 PM)

"No shotgun of Mine is going to marry a rocket launcher" sounds like something that Targetmasters (or WFC Siege Micromasters) might say...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 08:06 PM)

The characters are actually kinda nice. Sure a bunch of them are from New Jersey, but you get a few aliens too.. But if you do that, you might want to go digital delux verisons.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:38 PM)

My only issue is that the aside from Fox, the looks of the characters are kinda bland. If anything, I'll at least get it on Black Friday, as they almost always have deals on the toys to life stuff.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 06:07 PM)

Well I can tell you, if you are going physical version because you want the toys. The Switch version has the best Ship mount as you just slide the joycons into it. The PS4 ship mount is wired. The game itself is very good in my opionion. In some ways it starts to turn into an RTS without being an RTS. You've got to start focus on keeping your planets from being taken back over. It has a LOT to do. It does have some repitive missions, because well, trying to let you level up all pilots and ships and such. The switch version -ALSO- has starfox only missions and the characters are incorporated into the story.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:03 PM)

How is Starlink anyways? Been thinking of getting the Switch version for StarFox, which is quite unusal for me, as I almost always pick the PS4 versions (favorite controller and I already have so many Trophys on it).

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:42 PM)

No shotgun of mine is going to marry a rocket launcher!

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 October 2018 - 05:22 PM)

Should they be allowed to marry outside of their own caliber?

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:18 PM)

I'm conflicted on the subject of marriage rights for shotguns.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:24 PM)

You say, "Damn it, what do you think this is, a shotgun wedding?"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:23 PM)

What do you do if someone wants to bring their concealed-carry to your American wedding?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 01:58 PM)

Benbot, I was streaming the PS4 version of Starlink

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:25 PM)

Ergo their reporting will have its own slant on the facts as they choose, not the most neutral way possible.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:24 PM)

I find it sad to realize that the prestigious New York Times which I trusted a lot as a kid in fact has its own editorial agenda.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:20 PM)

The end result is NOT that stupid bullshit gets equal coverage as reasonable arguments. That would be problematic in itself (the "false balance" bias), but the provlem is that the controversial stupid bullshit gets MORE coverage than the reasonable arguments.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

The media doesn't want to miss the opportunity to report on a controversy, and as a consequence makes sure that the controversial statements reach an audience.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

Because they realized that saying controversial shit is guaranteed to get coverage.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:16 PM)

It's the same here in Germany. Our right-wing moron party is still a political minority, yet they succeed in driving the topics the media keeps reporting.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:15 PM)

The main problem was that Trump was banking on controversy, and the media was reporting controversy because it gave them ratings.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:15 PM)

"Fairness" was not the media's main problem.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 October 2018 - 11:40 AM)

Holy fish! Second life is still a thing?!?!

@  Benbot : (20 October 2018 - 08:32 AM)

What were you streaming, Silverclaw?

@  Shrug : (20 October 2018 - 05:28 AM)

Russian interference should have been fighting an uphill battle, but as far as I'm concerned we gave them a head start.

@  Shrug : (20 October 2018 - 05:23 AM)

I disagree with Hillary being a good choice to run against Trump. Plenty of mixed feelings about her long before 2016 within our own party. When the DNC has to rig it's own primaries to get their chosen candidate running, maybe you shouldn't expect an easy landslide at the actual election.

@  Pennpenn : (20 October 2018 - 05:20 AM)

It would have also helped if the US was also an actualy democracy where the candidate who gets the most votes wins, but hey.

@  Rycochet : (20 October 2018 - 04:42 AM)

You helped destroy western democracy, but hey, at least no-one can accuse you of bias... Oh wait, they did, still do, and are going to keep doing so as long as you report facts.

@  Rycochet : (20 October 2018 - 04:39 AM)

Hillary was a good choice to run against Trump, the big problem was the media crawling all over themselves to try and push the idea of fairness, and threw her under the bus to do so. Any hint of impropriety was treated as being exactly the same as actual proven criminal acts by Trump in order to avoid being seen as biased... and at the end of it all, he turned around and bit them for doing so because that's who he is.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:37 AM)

Many right-wingers are using its name as part of our version of the term "libtards": "Left-green filthy".

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:35 AM)

It's the only of the "established" parties (it's almost 40 years old at this point) that has remained true to its principles.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:34 AM)

Meanwhile, some uplifting news from Germany: While our big parties are rapidly losing voters, and our new "we're not really extreme" right-wing party is gaining voters, there is one other party that is scoring massive points, both in polls and the recent Bavarian state election: The Green Party.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:33 AM)

I still think having Hillary run against Drumpf was a bad choice.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 03:32 AM)

Well on the bright side, we know more people voted for HIllary than the cheeto.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:31 AM)

I guess many a prepper might have also voted for the person most likely to bring about the end of society they are waiting for.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:28 AM)

Now let that sink in, and then think about how many people voted for Agent Orange.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:27 AM)

Elected officials often represent how the voters either view themselves, or how they would like to be.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 12:21 AM)

Well I had 8 people watching my stream at one time tonight.. I call that a success...

@  Telly : (19 October 2018 - 11:08 PM)

...

@  MEDdMI : (19 October 2018 - 10:02 PM)

Unless it's the main cast of Persona 5.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 October 2018 - 10:02 PM)

I realize there is a certain irony in my vocabulary selection there.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 October 2018 - 10:01 PM)

People who admire public thieves and tricksters are.....sad.

@  Pennpenn : (19 October 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Ah damn it, need to go get some new headphones.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 October 2018 - 06:21 PM)

Power was out for most of the day, and now a boil water advisory. Been a great day so far...

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2018 - 05:31 PM)

Bottom line, he reminds them alternatively of all the con men they grew up with watching on television (i.e. televangelists) or their favorite character from the Bible (i.e. Old Testament God).

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2018 - 05:30 PM)

Bill Maher gave an excellent explanation for why the Religious Right loves Trump so much.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 October 2018 - 05:02 PM)

"NOOOO said the man in washington! It's belongs to the poor!"... oh boy was he wrong.

@  Paladin : (19 October 2018 - 04:34 PM)

see also Andrew Ryan

@  RichardT1977 : (19 October 2018 - 03:18 PM)

Also, "Big Father" has almost all the benefits of "Big Brother", but with none of the drawbacks.


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Huh. I won Botcon 2011 Galvatron for ?32.90 on Ebay


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#1 Bass X0

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 06:36 PM

Thats pretty cheap for a Botcon toy, Evac was only ?20 originally. Or is Galvatron undesired? I thought for sure I'd get outbid.



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Posted 04 August 2011 - 06:49 PM

I had a similar experience. I ended up paying $62.99 for Galvatron including shipping, which according to the current currency conversions on Google comes to 38.68 pounds. Thundercracker sells for more than Galvatron these days.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 08:53 PM

Probably not much desire for the figure, and quite a few were produced compared to previous exclusives.

Perhaps if he shows up more in fiction, desire will go up.

I think just being a redeco doesn't help much. Though things like SG Optimus and SG Rodimus are expensive contrary to that fact.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 09:29 PM

Coincidentally, FP just posted a whole bunch of leftover Botcon stuff.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:02 PM

Presumably, most people wanted Thundercracker and a lot of them ended up hawking their Galvy on eBay to recoup costs. I think he probably would have been more popular if he had a new head sculpt, Primus knows I have three different EVACs already, an expensive exclusive kinda needed to bring more to the table than paint masks.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:19 PM

Plenty of expensive exclusives only bring to the table a few paint masks. Heck with just a couple exceptions, pretty much all of eHobby's exclusives are straight redecoes. Same goes for the Wonderfest toys when Takara has them. Not to mention the Million Publishing exclusives.

Besides, Evac's head is already the perfect heroic Galvatron head. That's why the toy was chosen.


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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:26 PM

EHobby's exclusives aren't expensive, though. Sure it's ~$40 for a deluxe. But United deluxes are like $35 after import markup anyway. That is, when importers aren't fleecing you ($50 for Tracks, etc) like they do with the various store exclusives.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:28 PM

I would argue that a lot of larger BotCon exclusives are perfectly fine without new heads, and that they're certainly not a "necessity." And it's not like 2011 had an odd shortage of new heads in its lineup. Sometimes expectations can be unreasonable.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 12:37 AM

I picked up a Botcon Galvatron for about that much. It seems to be about the going rate-ish.

I have to disagree about the head, though. Previous discussions make it clear that I'm a minority on that, but I think it's at best a passable head, and meaningfully different from how he looks in the comic. I understand why they didn't use a head remold when Evac's head wasn't offensively far from Galvatron's, but I'm still disappointed that a faction leader didn't get more.

No one recognizes him as Galvatron on the shelf, even though they recognize the classics Galvatron who's right beside him. I think that's more the body shape and paint than the head, though.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 05:48 AM

Is that in hand in the UK or are you paying a small fortune for shipping? It makes all the difference!

From my experience of hunting for him TC has been going for much more than Galvatron since the beginning; despite nominally being SG Thundercracker I imagine he has wider appeal as more fans see him as Classics Action Master Thundercracker. Not to mention those with their sick Classics Seeker mould obsession... icon-arcee.gif

I got my set of the two for about ?82 shipped. Even with the club having them back up at $92 for members it would work out at more than that once shipping is involved.

#11 Bass X0

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 05:59 AM

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Is that in hand in the UK or are you paying a small fortune for shipping? It makes all the difference!


?32.90 including shipping.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 06:04 AM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 5 2011, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Is that in hand in the UK or are you paying a small fortune for shipping? It makes all the difference!


?32.90 including shipping.


Nice one! I so often see US-based auctions which look like a reasonable price before I see the shipping. ?32.90 actually almost looks like a shipping charge.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 06:13 AM

QUOTE(kinjacono @ Aug 5 2011, 06:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to mention those with their sick Classics Seeker mould obsession... icon-arcee.gif

Huh?

I just want to clarify that I wasn't saying Galvatron needed a new head, just that not having one may make him slightly less popular (but it could be any number of things).

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 06:38 AM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Aug 5 2011, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(kinjacono @ Aug 5 2011, 06:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to mention those with their sick Classics Seeker mould obsession... icon-arcee.gif

Huh?


You could take it as a compliment! After all, I is livin' in South East London innit.

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I just want to clarify that I wasn't saying Galvatron needed a new head, just that not having one may make him slightly less popular (but it could be any number of things).


It's kind of a shame he isn't more popular, it's quite a good mould and the colour scheme is nice. That said mine's still sealed and I'm torn over selling it. Though considering the deal Bass X0 got maybe I should hang on after all.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 08:21 AM

I'm kind of surprised that they're going for so little. I think I overpaid a bit at $85 shipped, but it was the only exclusive this year that appealed to me.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 09:13 AM

QUOTE(Professor @ Aug 4 2011, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No one recognizes him as Galvatron on the shelf,

This is demonstrably untrue. LOTS of people have gone on record as how "Galvatrony" this figure is.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 10:07 AM

It feels like kind of a red herring to be debating how much he passes for G1 Galvatron anyway, considering he ain't.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 10:10 AM

QUOTE(Darknova4life @ Aug 5 2011, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm kind of surprised that they're going for so little. I think I overpaid a bit at $85 shipped, but it was the only exclusive this year that appealed to me.

Considering they were $92 or something at the convention, plus tax people were paying around $100 for them. I'd say you didn't, unless you're just talking about Galvatron and not the pair.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 10:15 AM

QUOTE(Give Me Ur Face @ Aug 4 2011, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Coincidentally, FP just posted a whole bunch of leftover Botcon stuff.


I just saw that myself. You can't buy the loose sets unless you've already purchased the box set. While I sort of get the idea behind that, it still seems sort of crazy. They still have last year's loose set in stock as well. How many people will dump another 200 plus bucks on this set (except scalpers of course who can turn around and use it recoup some of their losses)?
 
 
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#20 Bass X0

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 06:49 AM

Just got him in the post today.

I do have a concern though, the hinge at the waist seems weaker than my Live Convoy's and I had to use a little force to transform him, although I remained cautious. I also noticed a very tiny stress mark after I had done so. Is this a common problem? I didn't get the Blades or Springer repaint so I don't know if the mold has been degrading over the years or of its new to Galvatron.


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