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@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 April 2019 - 11:04 AM)

Well, when you understand the history of the area it make sense. It's basically a series of countries buying the place, moving in, saying "we rule you people now", and the locals shrugging and responding, "okay, you have fun with that".

@  Sabrblade : (16 April 2019 - 07:58 AM)

When did we all turn into Henry Higgins?

@  unluckiness : (16 April 2019 - 03:16 AM)

To be fair, most Americans can't get the hang of English, so I can understand why.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 April 2019 - 03:15 AM)

(And yeah, Calliope is a Greek muse, not French, but the street was named BY the French when they took over.)

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 April 2019 - 03:10 AM)

In New Orleans there's a bunch of streets with French names that are pronounced by locals with a more English emphasis, for example "Calliope Street" is pronounced "CAL-lee-ope".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 11:56 PM)

I figured as much for Canadians.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 April 2019 - 11:37 PM)

hm; whenever I've heard people talk about the school they said it the same way as the cathedral...but I guess that's in Canada, so they're probably more familiar with the cathedral than the school

@  Dracula : (15 April 2019 - 11:11 PM)

There's plenty of place names in the US like that. Around here we have an "el doh-RAY-doh," and up north there's a Cairo that's pronounced "kay-roh"

@  RichardT1977 : (15 April 2019 - 09:56 PM)

Yeah, the common pronunciation of the University is probably the reason most Americans don't pronounce the Cathedral name correctly.

@  Arazyr : (15 April 2019 - 08:03 PM)

That's my understanding of how the two are supposed to be pronounced as well.

@  Echowarrior : (15 April 2019 - 07:42 PM)

When I'm talking about the cathedral, I say "noh-treh dahme". When I talk about the university, I say "noh-ter dayme". I don't see a problem with that.

@  Paladin : (15 April 2019 - 06:26 PM)

guessing "Hunchback" just got bumped WAY down the list for Disney's live-action remakes...

@  Patch : (15 April 2019 - 05:56 PM)

We all pronounce it wrong, so no one knows enough to care.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 April 2019 - 05:40 PM)

It'd be odd for most Americans not to know how to pronounce Notre Dame, considering they have a University with the same name that's the subject of a relatively popular film based around a sport most Americans love

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 04:22 PM)

Three or four more hours will be needed to contain the fire.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 04:22 PM)

Update from France 24: the Paris Fire Brigade says two towers and the main structure of the cathedral have been saved from complete destruction.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 03:57 PM)

One does not have to speak French to know that rhyming with "voter name" is off the mark.

@  Locoman : (15 April 2019 - 03:51 PM)

Really? It's an international tragedy and you're zeroing in on the people who maybe don't speak French?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 03:44 PM)

@Tm_Silverclaw I just read on BBC News that the cause is not yet clear, but officials suspect the fire could be linked to renovation work.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 03:42 PM)

Oh boy, here we go with the U.S.-American newscasters who can't pronounce "Notre Dame" correctly.

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 April 2019 - 03:38 PM)

Too soon to say.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 April 2019 - 03:20 PM)

Do we know if it was an attack? Arson? Or just bad wiring?

@  Nevermore : (15 April 2019 - 02:10 PM)

Religion is dead?

@  Paladin : (15 April 2019 - 02:01 PM)

major cathedral burning down on Holy Week is some kind of metaphor.

@  Benbot : (15 April 2019 - 12:54 PM)

Hard to believe a wonder of the world could just be wiped out so easily. Hopefully they can still save it

@  Benbot : (15 April 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Well, Notre Dame is burning down

@  Benbot : (15 April 2019 - 10:05 AM)

yikes I thought the site was going to be down for a while

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 09:07 PM)

So, time for another strike. No sleep for me tonight. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 09:04 PM)

Think Game of Thrones "light" meets Cabaret and you get the idea.

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 09:03 PM)

Kinda sorta, just with more intrigue, conspiracy, depravity, crime and violence.

@  RichardT1977 : (14 April 2019 - 06:37 PM)

So it's like a prequel to Cabaret?

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 04:02 PM)

And man, characters are smoking literally EVERYWHERE.

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 03:27 PM)

Also, full frontal male nudity. (There's been quite a bit of female nudity since episode 1.)

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 03:26 PM)

Episode 6, and Hitler is randomly name-checked.

@  Xellos : (14 April 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Runa runa!

@  Sabrblade : (14 April 2019 - 09:10 AM)

Wocka wocka!

@  The Doctor Who : (14 April 2019 - 06:59 AM)

Lewd

@  Paladin : (14 April 2019 - 06:57 AM)

troutstick.

@  MEDdMI : (14 April 2019 - 06:34 AM)

With a trout.

@  Xellos : (14 April 2019 - 05:44 AM)

With a stick?

@  MEDdMI : (13 April 2019 - 10:56 PM)

*slaps them both*

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 April 2019 - 07:31 PM)

Seems like a polarizing decision, but it's not like jest anyone could make it for you.

@  Xellos : (13 April 2019 - 06:06 PM)

I had an epiphany today. My spirit animal is Fozzie Bear. We both love our un-bear-able jokes, which make people feel like they are being pun-ished.

@  Nevermore : (12 April 2019 - 06:24 AM)

That's what makes the show so poignant, I think. It take a contemporary perspective, rather than a modern one. The hardships of the time aren't glossed over, but they're portrayed very stoically. Yeah, many people suffered, there was poverty, but so was life at the time. There's also a high-ranking Jewish police official who's a very by-the-books guy and supports the frail democracy of Weimar Germany. If you want to learn more about how Germany BEFORE the Period Everyone Knows About, this show is as good as it gets.

@  Nevermore : (12 April 2019 - 06:19 AM)

Because in retrospect, we (even here in Germany) tend to view the era with knowledge of what would later come, but in reality, the Nazis started out as a regional fringe movement and basically just happened to be in the right place at the right time to seize power.

@  Nevermore : (12 April 2019 - 06:18 AM)

The communists are a much bigger threat. When the Nazis appear, they will likely do so with a bang. Like, completely out of left field.

@  Nevermore : (12 April 2019 - 06:17 AM)

The show tries its best to accurately depict the zeitgeist of the era, the post-war period with a young, struggling (and ultimately doomed) democracy... but like in real life, the Nazis aren't really an issue on anyone's mind yet.

@  Nevermore : (12 April 2019 - 06:16 AM)

The female lead is a young, aspiring typist and part-time prostitute who dreams of becoming a police officer working in the murder department.

@  Nevermore : (12 April 2019 - 06:15 AM)

During his investigations, he becomes involved in political unrest, murder cases, a conspiracy of reactionary monarchists, Russian counter-revolutionaries and more.

@  Nevermore : (12 April 2019 - 06:14 AM)

@Benbot: Babylon Berlin is a film noir-style crime drama set in the German capital of Berlin in the year 1929. It features a World War I veteran turned police officer from Cologne who comes to Berlin to investigate a porn ring that blackmails his superior, the grand mayor of Cologne (who would later become the first chancellor of post-WWII Germany).


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Huh. I won Botcon 2011 Galvatron for ?32.90 on Ebay


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#1 Bass X0

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 06:36 PM

Thats pretty cheap for a Botcon toy, Evac was only ?20 originally. Or is Galvatron undesired? I thought for sure I'd get outbid.



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Posted 04 August 2011 - 06:49 PM

I had a similar experience. I ended up paying $62.99 for Galvatron including shipping, which according to the current currency conversions on Google comes to 38.68 pounds. Thundercracker sells for more than Galvatron these days.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 08:53 PM

Probably not much desire for the figure, and quite a few were produced compared to previous exclusives.

Perhaps if he shows up more in fiction, desire will go up.

I think just being a redeco doesn't help much. Though things like SG Optimus and SG Rodimus are expensive contrary to that fact.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 09:29 PM

Coincidentally, FP just posted a whole bunch of leftover Botcon stuff.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:02 PM

Presumably, most people wanted Thundercracker and a lot of them ended up hawking their Galvy on eBay to recoup costs. I think he probably would have been more popular if he had a new head sculpt, Primus knows I have three different EVACs already, an expensive exclusive kinda needed to bring more to the table than paint masks.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:19 PM

Plenty of expensive exclusives only bring to the table a few paint masks. Heck with just a couple exceptions, pretty much all of eHobby's exclusives are straight redecoes. Same goes for the Wonderfest toys when Takara has them. Not to mention the Million Publishing exclusives.

Besides, Evac's head is already the perfect heroic Galvatron head. That's why the toy was chosen.


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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:26 PM

EHobby's exclusives aren't expensive, though. Sure it's ~$40 for a deluxe. But United deluxes are like $35 after import markup anyway. That is, when importers aren't fleecing you ($50 for Tracks, etc) like they do with the various store exclusives.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:28 PM

I would argue that a lot of larger BotCon exclusives are perfectly fine without new heads, and that they're certainly not a "necessity." And it's not like 2011 had an odd shortage of new heads in its lineup. Sometimes expectations can be unreasonable.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 12:37 AM

I picked up a Botcon Galvatron for about that much. It seems to be about the going rate-ish.

I have to disagree about the head, though. Previous discussions make it clear that I'm a minority on that, but I think it's at best a passable head, and meaningfully different from how he looks in the comic. I understand why they didn't use a head remold when Evac's head wasn't offensively far from Galvatron's, but I'm still disappointed that a faction leader didn't get more.

No one recognizes him as Galvatron on the shelf, even though they recognize the classics Galvatron who's right beside him. I think that's more the body shape and paint than the head, though.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 05:48 AM

Is that in hand in the UK or are you paying a small fortune for shipping? It makes all the difference!

From my experience of hunting for him TC has been going for much more than Galvatron since the beginning; despite nominally being SG Thundercracker I imagine he has wider appeal as more fans see him as Classics Action Master Thundercracker. Not to mention those with their sick Classics Seeker mould obsession... icon-arcee.gif

I got my set of the two for about ?82 shipped. Even with the club having them back up at $92 for members it would work out at more than that once shipping is involved.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 05:59 AM

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Is that in hand in the UK or are you paying a small fortune for shipping? It makes all the difference!


?32.90 including shipping.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 06:04 AM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 5 2011, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Is that in hand in the UK or are you paying a small fortune for shipping? It makes all the difference!


?32.90 including shipping.


Nice one! I so often see US-based auctions which look like a reasonable price before I see the shipping. ?32.90 actually almost looks like a shipping charge.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 06:13 AM

QUOTE(kinjacono @ Aug 5 2011, 06:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to mention those with their sick Classics Seeker mould obsession... icon-arcee.gif

Huh?

I just want to clarify that I wasn't saying Galvatron needed a new head, just that not having one may make him slightly less popular (but it could be any number of things).

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 06:38 AM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Aug 5 2011, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(kinjacono @ Aug 5 2011, 06:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to mention those with their sick Classics Seeker mould obsession... icon-arcee.gif

Huh?


You could take it as a compliment! After all, I is livin' in South East London innit.

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I just want to clarify that I wasn't saying Galvatron needed a new head, just that not having one may make him slightly less popular (but it could be any number of things).


It's kind of a shame he isn't more popular, it's quite a good mould and the colour scheme is nice. That said mine's still sealed and I'm torn over selling it. Though considering the deal Bass X0 got maybe I should hang on after all.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 08:21 AM

I'm kind of surprised that they're going for so little. I think I overpaid a bit at $85 shipped, but it was the only exclusive this year that appealed to me.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 09:13 AM

QUOTE(Professor @ Aug 4 2011, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No one recognizes him as Galvatron on the shelf,

This is demonstrably untrue. LOTS of people have gone on record as how "Galvatrony" this figure is.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 10:07 AM

It feels like kind of a red herring to be debating how much he passes for G1 Galvatron anyway, considering he ain't.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 10:10 AM

QUOTE(Darknova4life @ Aug 5 2011, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm kind of surprised that they're going for so little. I think I overpaid a bit at $85 shipped, but it was the only exclusive this year that appealed to me.

Considering they were $92 or something at the convention, plus tax people were paying around $100 for them. I'd say you didn't, unless you're just talking about Galvatron and not the pair.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 10:15 AM

QUOTE(Give Me Ur Face @ Aug 4 2011, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Coincidentally, FP just posted a whole bunch of leftover Botcon stuff.


I just saw that myself. You can't buy the loose sets unless you've already purchased the box set. While I sort of get the idea behind that, it still seems sort of crazy. They still have last year's loose set in stock as well. How many people will dump another 200 plus bucks on this set (except scalpers of course who can turn around and use it recoup some of their losses)?
 
 
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Posted 22 August 2011 - 06:49 AM

Just got him in the post today.

I do have a concern though, the hinge at the waist seems weaker than my Live Convoy's and I had to use a little force to transform him, although I remained cautious. I also noticed a very tiny stress mark after I had done so. Is this a common problem? I didn't get the Blades or Springer repaint so I don't know if the mold has been degrading over the years or of its new to Galvatron.


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