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@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

exactly.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:21 AM)

Besides the fact that it's all silly sci-fi scenarios, you can't just experience a memory and feel what that person felt since you have your own set of perceptual biases by which to judge the event

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

We already have something like that. It's called history class.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:18 AM)

"But in my ancestor's memory, they stole our orange first!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

"Your great-great-great-great-grandfather stole my great-great-great-great-grandfather's apple! I will kill you for that!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

If we had all our ancestors' knowledge, too many people would just use that as a excuse to continue old grudges for generations.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:13 AM)

I remember the same event a bit differently than my parents do, some things I'm sure happened but they don't remember or vice versa, etc.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:12 AM)

the problem with knowledge and memories is that our brains interpret/fill in gaps so it may not be completely accurate. It wouldn't be much different from autobiographical books/movies.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.


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#1 Zodberg

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 07:31 AM

I tire of seeing the threads about various fan-projects to build replacement dinguses for dinobots. How about having them all funnelled into one place?
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Posted 03 August 2011 - 08:49 AM

Seconded.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 10:32 AM

Other than a few sporadic Takara exclusives, is there a lot more product to talk about right now that wouldn't fall under the DOTM subforum? I know if TF Discussion became all about Transformers-related word games and discussions about the use of fan terms, I'd just skip it.
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Posted 03 August 2011 - 11:09 AM

Can't say splintering up Transformers discussions into multiple forums is convenient. Seems more like a cry for the people that simply don't want to see any of it anymore.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 11:36 AM

In my humble opinion, if we started making sub-forums for every bit of our Transformers universe that some people enjoy but bug the hell out of other people there'd be nothing in Transformers Discussion, it would just house a menu. I don't believe that's the direction we'll ever be taking.

I have my threads per page maxed out, and even then 3rd party threads only make up like 8 of 40. Not exactly overrunning the forum. This is just my personal opinion but if this were something I was voting on, I'd vote no. Things are fine as is. icon-ironhide.gif

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#6 Kalidor

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 01:53 PM

I'm not against the idea of creating a more tailored set of subforums. But I'm not sure that the reason presented is a very good one.

There will be a lot of changes with the new site and some of them will be experimental, so all ideas are welcome.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 03:09 AM

I agree with the op that these threads are getting out of hand. Each time a new company has a new screenshot of something that might not even be produced there's a new thread and the same sequence of people saying "want" or "do not want".
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#8 Wheelimus

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 07:44 AM

QUOTE(Zodberg @ Aug 4 2011, 04:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree with the op that these threads are getting out of hand. Each time a new company has a new screenshot of something that might not even be produced there's a new thread and the same sequence of people saying "want" or "do not want".


But that's the case for pretty much any thread on anything. News comes, it's posted, and people say they love it or hate it. It just seems some people are extra annoyed by third party news because they have a particular distaste for the other sides opinion. "Totally reprehensible illegal IP theft" people are never going to agree with "hug you give me my toy" people and since apparently just accepting the opinion of someone who disagrees with you as valid and moving on isn't an option the debate must be had.

That being said, if someone wanted to take on the responsibility of starting a "FAN PROJECTS THIRD PARTY THREAD", "TF CLUB THIRD PARTY THREAD", "iGEAR THIRD PARTY THREAD" and so on thread(s) and then updating the sub-title when new things come around that would probably be great and cut down on the sheer volume. Just like the only reason General Discussion isn't chock full of pro wrestling threads is that we got around to making a catch all thread.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 11:23 AM

QUOTE(Wheelimus @ Aug 4 2011, 08:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That being said, if someone wanted to take on the responsibility of starting a "FAN PROJECTS THIRD PARTY THREAD", "TF CLUB THIRD PARTY THREAD", "iGEAR THIRD PARTY THREAD" and so on thread(s) and then updating the sub-title when new things come around that would probably be great and cut down on the sheer volume. Just like the only reason General Discussion isn't chock full of pro wrestling threads is that we got around to making a catch all thread.


I wholeheartedly agree with the above.

And maybe that will cut down on people mislabeling the companies and/or products. It's a bit aggravating when someone calls everything "iGear" icon-fire.gif

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 04:51 PM

I moved all the 3rd party topics I noticed from the first 3 pages. We'll see how this works out.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 04:52 PM

^ You missed the Exgraver thread icon-waspy.gif

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 04:58 PM

Ha Ha love the name. Big Bot eat your heart out
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#13 Kalidor

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 04:59 PM

Hehe...

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:11 PM

I don't care for it, much like the other sub-forums. TF discussion is TF discussion and I think all these forums stifle regular discussion flow and try to keep things too narrow.

The jivey movie may have dominated the board a few weeks ago, but I'd still rather see those threads in one forum. People can figure it out and read what they want to read. I'm not here to find indexed information, I'm here because it is usually interesting. I've never understood things like subforums and the ignore feature - is browsing a message board really that hard?
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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:30 PM

wouldnt this go towards promoting these things and therefore pissing off Hasbro?



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Posted 05 August 2011 - 01:51 AM

I should be the mod of the new forum.
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Posted 05 August 2011 - 08:41 AM

I like it! More organization is never a bad thing. icon-ironhide.gif
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Posted 05 August 2011 - 10:07 AM

QUOTE(Darkstream @ Aug 4 2011, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wouldnt this go towards promoting these things and therefore pissing off Hasbro?

Suck it, Hasbro.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 01:44 PM

QUOTE(Darkstream @ Aug 4 2011, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wouldnt this go towards promoting these things and therefore pissing off Hasbro?


IF HAZBLOW MADE THE TOYS WE WANT WE WOULDN'T NEED A THIRD PARTY FORUM BUT THEY HATE MONEY AND THE FANS AND ESPECIALLY THEY HATE THE FANS'S MONEY.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 03:21 PM

QUOTE(Darkstream @ Aug 4 2011, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wouldnt this go towards promoting these things and therefore pissing off Hasbro?

Hasbro's made of adults. If they want us to stop, they can write us a letter and tell us why and if they have some good reasons we'll comply. But honestly I think if fan-productions were suddenly their enemy, they would contact the companies before they contacted the message boards and I'm not sure of them having any record of doing that.
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