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@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

On the plus side, tho, TFW has "appreciation threads" for practically everything, even stuff like Kre-O and PCC. And their toy database is quite handy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

I've been happily posting on TFW for years. Then, after being *here* for a few months, I look back and wonder how the hell I even bothered with it. I mean, my ignore list had hundreds of people on it. Literally HUNDREDS of ignored people. I even showed off said gargantuan list once (with a small thumbnail that you couldn't read any of the names on, mind you). That... that really should have been a warning sign, I suppose...

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Thanks, I enjoyed reading the nerdrage. I should hang out over there more often.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:07 PM)

I mean, Reveal Your Shield. That gets complained about too.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:04 PM)

One of the reveal the shield news threads at TFW has movie fans and G1 fans arguing over who has it worse

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

You got me awfully curious. What thread ware we talking about?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

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Firefly and Serenity

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 11:16 AM

So, I am one of the many in the world that didn't watch Firefly back when it was on Fox. Well, after hearing so many good things about it, I DVR'd the entire series when The Science Channel had their July 4th marathon. Well my wife and I finally sat down on Saturday and watched the entire series. We were both so blown away by how good it was, we ran out that night (2am Sunday morning) and bought Serenity on BluRay and watched it on Sunday.

I am ashamed at myself for not watching this series before. I feel like I need to turn in my scifi fandom card for not supporting this show when it was on the air. The characters, the story lines, the effects... this show was absolutely amazing!! I seriously have a hurting inside knowing this show only got one season and a movie.

I guess where I'm wanting this thread to go is, now that Science Channel was able to secure the rights to play the series, do you think there's any chance of them bring the show back for another season? After a search on the web, the last talk I saw of another season was back in 2007 when people were trying to secure the rights away from FOX. So now, it's 2011, 9 years after the original series was produced. Is there still a market for this show or would it suffer the same fate it did on FOX?

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 11:23 AM

No, you are not alone. I didn't bother watching it while it was on, and didn't really like it till I sat down and watched it on DVD (in the proper order, mind.) with my brother.

As for direction: currently, nathan fillion is trying to raise funds to buy the property off fox and make webisodes.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 11:53 AM

I didn't watch until it had been on DVD a while. I did manage to catch Serenity in the theater, though.

Given that some of the principal actors and Joss Whedon all seem to be tied up in other projects right now, I think that would argue against anything very long. It's also true that it's been almost ten years: everybody's moved on to other projects and it's hard to say how open they would be to returning. (Haven't heard anybody say anything bad about the production, and Jewel Staite practically gushed about it in an interview I read a while back.)

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 11:57 AM

^he wasn't serious about that.

Despite the loud volume of fans, there just isn't a large volume of fans. There hasn't been enough of them (or enough of them willing) to support comics even when written by Whedon.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 12:43 PM

I only just recently watched the series, haven't caught serenity yet, but I'll get to it. Probably once I'm done with Black Adder.

Loved it, by the way.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 01:57 PM

It didn't help that the comics were only so-so, and some of them were only available at rather high price points. I mean, Shepherd's Tale was interesting and finally revealed Book's past, but IIRC it was a $25 rather slender hardcover volume. Pricing for the hardcore fan and no one else.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 02:30 PM

I think Serenity was a good end for the series. Everyone has gone on to other things. I almost wouldn't mind a Firefly: The Next Generation some time down the road, but for now, I'm happy with how things turned out.

There are some very vocal hardcore fans though that make me tune out of the fandom completely. I've been fairly disappointed with the comics and tie-in stuff to. So, I'm ok with it being over for now.

And I watched and loved the series when it was first-run, and was there for Serenity opening night.
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Posted 25 July 2011 - 02:40 PM

This is usually where I plug Fireflyfans.net. We have an unproduced script from the show and are basically the clearinghouse of Joss-related news.

News like this tidbit from SDCC:
But more interestingly - especially if "Firefly" happens to be your favorite Whedon project (as it clearly was to many people in the Indigo Ballroom) - when a fan asked if he'd be telling the backstory of more "Firefly" characters in comics, Whedon said that "We now have license to not only tell backstory but move forward with these characters, too. It would be interesting to know what happens next."

The other Firefly comics alluded to above were "Those Left Behind" (set between the series and movie), "Better Days" (set after the series), "Float Out" (set after the movie, but framing a flashback to before the series), and "The Shepherd's Tale" (a prequel revealing Book's backstory). There's also "The Other Side" (during or after the series) which was online-only.

From the sound of things, the rights FOX was squatting on have reverted to Joss, and they can now start filling in the post-Serenity timeframe (which they already kinda did with the last page of "Float Out").

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 08:51 PM

Thanks for the link Cybersnark. I'll be checking that place out right now.

As far as the movie being a fitting end of the series, I can see that point. I really need to read some of the comics and see what else is out there.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE(Cybersnark @ Jul 25 2011, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The other Firefly comics alluded to above were "Those Left Behind" (set between the series and movie), "Better Days" (set after the series), "Float Out" (set after the movie, but framing a flashback to before the series), and "The Shepherd's Tale" (a prequel revealing Book's backstory). There's also "The Other Side" (during or after the series) which was online-only.

From the sound of things, the rights FOX was squatting on have reverted to Joss, and they can now start filling in the post-Serenity timeframe (which they already kinda did with the last page of "Float Out").

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Crap! Looks like I missed "Shepard's Tale".

"Float Out" was pretty bad, really the only notable part was the last page. I thought "Better Days" was alright. It at least managed to capture some of the fun of the series.