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@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.


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#1 Gridlock

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 04:13 AM

In the middle:

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#2 Bass X0

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 05:29 AM

Seems like Bumblebee has become resentful of Hot Rod Rodimus.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 06:46 AM

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Suuuuuuure it will. icon-blitz.gif

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 06:53 AM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Jul 5 2011, 06:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seems like Bumblebee has become resentful of Hot Rod Rodimus.


Can you blame him? He gets picked by his fellows to be leader, he's had an absolutely horrible time on the job, and now a mech that had done nothing but cause trouble has come along with the Matrix and pretty much killed any chances of him maintaining the position. It'd be like a sitting US president going through an absolutely horrible first term, only for the guy he beat in the election to find the Holy Grail or the Ark of the Covenant or (to name a Christian artifact that hasn't been found by Indiana Jones) the Spear of Destiny.

Seriously, it sucks to be Bumblebee.
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Posted 05 July 2011 - 06:53 AM

Man, Costa, just because you want narration doesn't mean you should sugar-coat it Bible-style.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 05 July 2011 - 07:01 AM

And lo did IDW release from their mighty pens a legend of epic epicness. All astonished were the readers, those lowly crawlers upon the dusty, fowl smelling Earth, for lo did the epic speak in tones of epic epicness, ever. Ever did it speak in ye old high pretentiousness like a badly written fantasy novel. And ever aft did they groan and wait for Roberts, the prophesized savior, to hopefully drop some better writting all up in this thing...


-ZacWilliam, the events aren't bad, per say, but ugh that naration grates. Just tell your story and if it's epic it will be epic. Writing the narration like that, badly, just... Ugh...

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 11:10 AM

So the story that changes Transformers forever is either a rehash of '86 film events with a new stand-in for Unicron, or a rehash of late season 3 where Rodimus gives the Matrix back and we arrive at status quo again. Right. Got it.
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Posted 05 July 2011 - 02:07 PM

What I'd like is for IDW to realize that there's nothing they can do with the comic that would make it sell more more than it already does without making the stories crappier than they are at the moment. Seriously, how many soft reboot will it take for them to understand that and just put a good writer in charge?

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 02:22 PM

Nghh. The writing on that narration is horrible. It reads like a parody.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 02:26 PM

QUOTE(TerraEsperZ @ Jul 5 2011, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What I'd like is for IDW to realize that there's nothing they can do with the comic that would make it sell more more than it already does without making the stories crappier than they are at the moment. Seriously, how many soft reboot will it take for them to understand that and just put a good writer in charge?



Well, James Roberts is doing co-writing for Chaos, and John Barber's apparently taking over from Costa at #125, so I guess...the number they've already had.
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Posted 05 July 2011 - 02:32 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Jul 5 2011, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Man, Costa, just because you want narration doesn't mean you should sugar-coat it Bible-style.

Seriously, I felt like I was reading the Covenant of Primus. Not necessarily a bad thing to me, but COMPLETELY OUT OF NOWHERE!


Still loving Bee's not-so-new-anymore design, as well as Hot Rods/Rodimus, I would very much like toys of them.

I wonder what will happen now that Ironhide and Sunstreaker are back.

Edited by Fenix Twilight, 05 July 2011 - 02:38 PM.


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Posted 05 July 2011 - 02:44 PM

Nothing of importance. I'm placing bets.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 02:47 PM

QUOTE(The Phazer @ Jul 5 2011, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nghh. The writing on that narration is horrible. It reads like a parody.


Yes it does. It doesn't capture what its attempting to do.


But at least its a change from what we're usually getting from the comics. It feels refreshing in that way. We've never had narration in the IDW comics telling us what characters are thinking or their motivations.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 02:47 PM

Bumblebee's kind of a dick in those first few pages.


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Posted 05 July 2011 - 02:54 PM

QUOTE(Fenix Twilight @ Jul 5 2011, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Detour @ Jul 5 2011, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Man, Costa, just because you want narration doesn't mean you should sugar-coat it Bible-style.

Seriously, I felt like I was reading the Covenant of Primus. Not necessarily a bad thing to me, but COMPLETELY OUT OF NOWHERE!


Yeah, that is what I felt they are going for with this, probably penned by Alpha Trion if he's this universe's chronicler. It doesn't annoy me, least not yet, its something new and different and could be interesting since Roberts is helping write the Chaos stuff.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 03:00 PM

Blerg. So this isn't a good time to start reading transformers comics, then?

And who is the giant guy in the back of this panel, Silverbolt?

http://www.comicscon...sformers215.htm
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Posted 05 July 2011 - 03:01 PM

QUOTE(Nanite @ Jul 5 2011, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Blerg. So this isn't a good time to start reading transformers comics, then?

And who is the giant guy in the back of this panel, Silverbolt?

http://www.comicscon...sformers215.htm



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Posted 05 July 2011 - 03:07 PM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Jul 5 2011, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Nanite @ Jul 5 2011, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Blerg. So this isn't a good time to start reading transformers comics, then?

And who is the giant guy in the back of this panel, Silverbolt?

http://www.comicscon...sformers215.htm



Broadside.

I love how Broadside and Jetfire have been drawn so many ways at this point within the same series that the same question comes up, followed by exactly the same answer, regarding an almost completely different character design.
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Posted 05 July 2011 - 03:09 PM

QUOTE(Nanite @ Jul 5 2011, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Blerg. So this isn't a good time to start reading transformers comics, then?

And who is the giant guy in the back of this panel, Silverbolt?

http://www.comicscon...sformers215.htm


Not likely, this is Costa trying to tie up all his storylines before the next writer takes over.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 03:09 PM

I'm...liking the epic narration. It makes it seem like its building to something that may actually matter.

Whether it does or not is obviously up in the air, but I'll take this over "ugh" and "raawwr" and splash pages.