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@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

exactly.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:21 AM)

Besides the fact that it's all silly sci-fi scenarios, you can't just experience a memory and feel what that person felt since you have your own set of perceptual biases by which to judge the event

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

We already have something like that. It's called history class.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:18 AM)

"But in my ancestor's memory, they stole our orange first!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

"Your great-great-great-great-grandfather stole my great-great-great-great-grandfather's apple! I will kill you for that!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

If we had all our ancestors' knowledge, too many people would just use that as a excuse to continue old grudges for generations.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:13 AM)

I remember the same event a bit differently than my parents do, some things I'm sure happened but they don't remember or vice versa, etc.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:12 AM)

the problem with knowledge and memories is that our brains interpret/fill in gaps so it may not be completely accurate. It wouldn't be much different from autobiographical books/movies.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:22 AM)

I dunno; like life itself I think the things that define it are open to change. It's not like I have grand expectations of immortality, constantly downloading my consciousness into freshly-grown genetically-enhanced clones of myself. But I think it's a waste for so much accumulated experience and memories to just wink out.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

or something

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

all semblence of order our purpose are symtoms of the sickness in man's ego mad mind. sense is not possible until the end.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:19 AM)

existence is a vulgar absurdity

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 03:18 AM)

Eh, death is part of what defines life. Sooner we accept that it's just a thing that happens, the better.

@  Pennpenn : (26 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

Probably be easier to develop that kind of thing if a significant portion of the population didn't think it was going to happen anyway for no adequately explainable reason.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 02:42 AM)

Death doesn't terrify me, but I have to admit I find the notion of its inevitably more than a little disappointing. I'd hope there's eventually some way to preserve our minds in some form prior to death

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:55 AM)

Or maybe some broken kid in a giant cyborg will turn us all into tang. Who knows what the future brings?

@  Waspinator : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

As someone terrified of death, I for one welcome our transhumanist singularity overlords.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

Our grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren will be less than dust before heat death matters anyway.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:51 AM)

Signularity is a meaningless buzzword, like a lot of this transhumanist late-game stuff.


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#1 M3Gr1ml0ck

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 04:30 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents the latest entries in the Characters Art Gallery.

The new Rodimus Prime, by Pablo Simon and Christian.
Razorclaw vs Onslaught, by Fabio.
Golden Age Astrotrain, by Koen and Christian.



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Edited by M3Gr1ml0ck, 07 April 2012 - 06:09 AM.


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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:53 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Ratbat and the New Junkions!

By Iohannes, Ibai and Victoria.







The Junkion Shaman will be featured in a Short Story for "The Evil That Mechs Do".
The Berserkers and Firearm are featured in Constant Moons: Paradise Lost, the story about their secret origins.
Ratbat needs a model sheet because he will be involved in an Eternal Feud (against who?).
What's next? What about Override's Earth mode?

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 03:12 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Characters art: the Lawless Times King and Grimlock.

By Ibai and YounJu.



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Posted 12 August 2011 - 02:29 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Characters art: Decepticon Command Station.



Also, Boltax in action:



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Lineart by Jeremy and colors by Andr?s.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 03:14 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Characters art: War Within Venom.



Lineart by Simon and colors by Avery.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:17 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Characters art: Interplanetary Col War Infiltration 1.0 Venom.



Lineart by Koen and colors by Dohee.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 02:47 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Characters art: Legionarie Drone.



Concept and art by Peter.

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 02:22 AM



Art by Lau.

Special bonus: lineart for Lightspeed!



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Posted 30 September 2011 - 01:50 PM



Lineart by Ji Hyun.
Colors by Matt.

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4. Seeds Of Deception: the Road Map!

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 10:38 AM

Now, please don't take this a criticism, it's just some part of my mental processes, but whenever I see a Transformer with their alt-mode, I try and picture how they get from one to the other and with a lot of your designs (and some elsewhere, but whatever) it's rather hard to form the mental "bridge" between the two forms. Do you put much thought into how they transform? A lot of them look like they wouldn't really be able to actually transform without coming apart and reforming. Take the Lightspeed image above- it obvious that his chest forms the "cockpit", the shins form the front end of his vehicle mode, and I think the flared parts over his shoulders are supposed to go above his front wheels, it's just that it doesn't seem like he'd actually be able to transform that way without some partsforming or very long extending parts (which seems impractical. It's also hard to figure out where the rest of his alt mode is, since there's ver little else visible that shares much in the way of design elements with his robot mode. This might be because it's on his back, but there's no suggestion it's ended up as kibble there.

Don't get me wrong, theses are cool designs, and for the most part that's fine. It's just there's a part of my brain (somewhere in the spacial and analytical sector, I think) saying "That shouldn't work that way! Argh!" and I figure it might placate it if I find out if you guys knew how the transformations worked even in a general sense.

If you're wondering, you're not the only ones my brain has had this problem with. Allspark Almanac II damn near shorted out my brain trying to figure out how some of those buggers actually transformed (Mixmaster and Tracks, stay in the god-damn corner, I'm not ready to forgive you yet!).

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 10:08 AM

The talent hunt preview lineart:



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Posted 14 October 2011 - 02:24 AM



Art by Nate.

Special bonus: promotional fancomic for the #81 campaign! It's issue 78.5 - The Last Quest (Act 1).
Cover Intro page 1 page 2 page 3

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QUOTE(Pennpenn @ Oct 1 2011, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now, please don't take this a criticism, it's just some part of my mental processes, but whenever I see a Transformer with their alt-mode, I try and picture how they get from one to the other and with a lot of your designs (and some elsewhere, but whatever) it's rather hard to form the mental "bridge" between the two forms. Do you put much thought into how they transform?


That's a question we should ask the (many) artists that offered their work for free icon-hotrod.gif

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A lot of them look like they wouldn't really be able to actually transform without coming apart and reforming.


Maybe it's so, because there's the problem that we're not "design engineers" working on actual toys for Hasbro. It's a hobby done for free and "strict rules" cannot be forced... it would be quite ungrateful.
Also, consider that real Transforming robots would not work like toys in plastic, and some actual "restructuring" of their body would come in play: mass displacement, phase metals, tesseract storage and so on... all these sci-fi concepts are used to explain how these robots can transform in the most incredible of ways.

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:37 AM

I won't lie and say that it doesn't bother me if it doesn't bother you, it does bother me buuuut thats entirely my problem (as in, the problem I possess within myself, rather than the problem I have with you). It's not like I'm saying you should enforce some strict policy ("you must obey this many laws of physics to enter!") or something, I was just curious if you at least knew in some cases if there was much thought put in to how the Transformers shown get from mode a to mode b.

I didn't mean for my questions to seem snarky or belittling to the artists, and if you feel that way, I'm sorry. I was just asking since it's something that parts of my head do without actually meaning to. I'm not asking that you interrogate your artists, they do good looking work and they shouldn't change just because I have a preference for more... coherent designs (please don't take that as an insult towards the works here. I mean coherent in the sense of there being less obvious "cheating" with regards to the structure of the transformation -as in mass shifting, phasing, etc).

Ah well, I asked, you answered. Anyway.

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:59 AM

QUOTE(Pennpenn @ Oct 25 2011, 06:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didn't mean for my questions to seem snarky or belittling to the artists, and if you feel that way, I'm sorry.


No problem, it's just that I feel already too greedy as I act right now. I dare not ask for more icon-hotrod.gif


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Posted 28 October 2011 - 07:17 AM

If you liked Impactor, you'll love Impacta.



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Posted 18 November 2011 - 04:32 AM

War Within Starscream by Ji Hyun:



Ji Hyun is working on Act 3 of SoD: Starscream, which will feature Lightspeed as well.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 05:02 PM

First Ark Memorial Bas-relief



Lineart by Peter.
Colors by by Christian.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 07:53 AM

A redesign of Unicron's head for Seeds Of Deception (from the DA account of the artist):



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Posted 16 January 2012 - 04:40 AM

A preview of Jetfire/Grimlock.


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Posted 03 February 2012 - 03:49 AM


Art by George Vega.



Art by Eric.



Art by Peter.

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