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@  wonko the sane? : (23 January 2018 - 07:02 AM)

He's actually interfacing with the public and is generally charismatic. He's no more effective than harper, but at least he can work a room.

@  Locoman : (23 January 2018 - 12:39 AM)

-shrugs- He says the right things more often, at least.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2018 - 11:03 PM)

Well is Trudeau an improvement over Harper?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 10:54 PM)

Most of the country is sick of trudeau, they very well might get in anyway. Might as well vote for the shmuck who actually wants to do good, but will accidentally screw it up, over the shmucks who'll lie about it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:14 PM)

Voting NDP is how the Conservatives get in, though

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

because the road to hell is, after all, paved with good intentions.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

There isn't one of those in this lot. Vote for the one whom won't deliberately do damage... so NDP.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:09 PM)

I usually feel an obligation to vote in any election, but I honestly won't know who to vote for next time around. I don't like any of them, and I think the best we can hope for is someone who won't do any more damage

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Pretending to try to figure out how to undo the absolutely flawless system of wealth concentration they and their predecessors designed

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Well, they're all off to Davos now, supposedly to lament the horribly skewed wealth distribution that's gotten even worse since last year's meeting

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:03 PM)

Conversely, being impressed by politicians isn't something you should be happy about.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:02 PM)

The other side of the canadian coin right now is a harper clone. If trudeau runs again, the choice is NDP or liberal. It all depends on how the NDP plays out under the new guy, but so far I am unimpressed.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

I don't disagree. Trudeau is a clown and he's been a huge disappointment. I was naive enough to believe he'd actually stick to his word and do something to help the middle class. He's never getting my vote again

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

This little raptor is freaking BOSS! Also, I've been drinking, so kinda mellow.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

Been playing with slash for the last hour though, totally worth it.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

After duties and the exchange AND shipping. I'm not even going to bother appealing, it'll take ages and achieve nothing.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

I assuming it was toys, and those have a 0% duty rate even when the object isn't of North American manufacture. In that case, it just should've been taxes and the processing fee

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

We won't get it. Nothing the trudeau government has done has actually helped the end level canadian citizen, and with trump on the other side: it'll only get worse.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

Wonko, if you feel the customs weren't assessed properly you can always contact them to appeal. Generally, the fee should only be taxes (GST/QST in your case) + duties (if applicable, depending on the type of item where it was made) + Canada Post's processing fee. If the item was properly valued on the parcel, it usually shouldn't reach paid twice territory

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:49 PM)

One of the things I'm hoping comes out of these NAFTA talks (assuming they don't kill it) is Canada adopting an increased duty-free limit. $20 compared to the American's $800 is really ridiculous

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:47 PM)

Stuff sent via more expensive shipping methods, though, might attract their attention more often

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:46 PM)

Although it might depend what method it was sent via USPS. Pretty much the only things I receive from the US anymore in Canada are sent First Class Parcel (which is trackable), and I don't think Customs really scrutinizes those ones that much

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

In fact I almost never get charged. Only when the stated value on the package is in the extreme range, like $300 or more

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

Strange the duties were so high. I've been hit by UPS with their insane fees, but I've always had good experiences with USPS and Canada Post

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 05:36 PM)

USPS then canada post.

@  RichardT1977 : (22 January 2018 - 05:25 PM)

Very carefully, I hope

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 PM)

How was it delivered?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 02:24 PM)

the duties pushed the cost of it into "paid twice" range.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2018 - 02:06 PM)

Well, at least hospitalization won't send you into bankruptcy. There's always that.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (22 January 2018 - 01:52 PM)

o.O

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 01:40 PM)

And not happy anymore. 40 bucks on duties. Free trade my ass.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 11:26 AM)

Yay! I should get my package from BBTS today!

@  Arazyr : (22 January 2018 - 10:50 AM)

Okay, now I get the snake thing. Thanks for the Pokemon reference. It was a bit after my time... 8^)

@  CastletonSnob : (22 January 2018 - 08:05 AM)

This is a Transformers fansite. Do you like big bots and you cannot lie?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 AM)

no. was just making a silly/stupid joke

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2018 - 03:22 AM)

Onyx is a stone. Onix is a rock snake. Do you even Pokemon, bro?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 02:44 AM)

could be a rock made of snakes. we just dont know!

@  Foffy : (22 January 2018 - 02:15 AM)

He is a snake made of rock, though

@  Jetstream C-18 : (21 January 2018 - 08:56 PM)

No, Onyx is a snake.

@  Arazyr : (21 January 2018 - 01:12 PM)

Something I only just "got" last night: Of course IDW's GB Blackrock is associated with Onyx Prime. Onyx is a black rock.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 January 2018 - 07:37 AM)

Bet a lot of military people won't want to work this monday. ;(

@  Pennpenn : (21 January 2018 - 07:27 AM)

It seems sort of intuitive for a lot of people because it's the first day in the week that you're working.

@  Nevermore : (21 January 2018 - 04:54 AM)

Germany considers Monday the first day of the week.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2018 - 01:34 AM)

The judge obviously had a more material motive than the one he claimed, there need to be some serious investigation of that case.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 05:04 PM)

The reason is even worse. :(

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 04:34 PM)

That moron is a shame to his profession.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 09:34 AM)

I just think a Judge going on and Jury Tampering, trying to make the Jury think a sex taffiker is innocent is sickening. *won't say why he did that as that goes in P&R*

@  Sabrblade : (20 January 2018 - 09:21 AM)

Heh, the schedules for my work weeks begin with Saturday

@  wonko the sane? : (20 January 2018 - 07:01 AM)

Thing about the US is... you can say that any time you want as much as you want. You're still going to get shot, but it might not be because you said that though.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 January 2018 - 02:20 AM)

You just did.


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#1 M3Gr1ml0ck

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 04:30 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents the latest entries in the Characters Art Gallery.

The new Rodimus Prime, by Pablo Simon and Christian.
Razorclaw vs Onslaught, by Fabio.
Golden Age Astrotrain, by Koen and Christian.



Don't miss the other updates for today, in this same forum: page 7 of Arcee In Wonderland and Magnus: Act IV - "Battle above the sea".

Be here in seven days for the conclusion: Magnus: Act V - "Legacy"

Edited by M3Gr1ml0ck, 07 April 2012 - 06:09 AM.


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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:53 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Ratbat and the New Junkions!

By Iohannes, Ibai and Victoria.







The Junkion Shaman will be featured in a Short Story for "The Evil That Mechs Do".
The Berserkers and Firearm are featured in Constant Moons: Paradise Lost, the story about their secret origins.
Ratbat needs a model sheet because he will be involved in an Eternal Feud (against who?).
What's next? What about Override's Earth mode?

Don't miss the other update for today, in this same forum: page 10 of Arcee In Wonderland.

Also, keep an eye on the art pages of YounJu (for some sweet sequential lineart about G1 Insecticons in manga style) and Tf #81 from IDW (the campaign to have Furman continue his G1 Marvel saga... the page will soon feature the works of some familiar faces!).


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Posted 05 August 2011 - 03:12 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Characters art: the Lawless Times King and Grimlock.

By Ibai and YounJu.



Don't miss the other update for today, in this same forum: SoD: Swindle - "The Cause Of War and page 12 of Arcee In Wonderland.

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Posted 12 August 2011 - 02:29 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Characters art: Decepticon Command Station.



Also, Boltax in action:



These images are a preview of an upcoming SoD Special Story.
Lineart by Jeremy and colors by Andr?s.

Don't miss the other update for today, in this same forum: page 13 of Arcee In Wonderland.

Check this forum every Friday, because there are two great stories coming soon: SoD: Trannis, Act 2 and The Lost Seasons: Attack Of The DIA-clones, Acts 1 & 2


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Posted 19 August 2011 - 03:14 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Characters art: War Within Venom.



Lineart by Simon and colors by Avery.

Don't miss the other update for today, in this same forum: The Lost Seasons: Attack Of The DIA-clones, Act 1 and the last chapter of Arcee In Wonderland.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:17 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Characters art: Interplanetary Col War Infiltration 1.0 Venom.



Lineart by Koen and colors by Dohee.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 02:47 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Characters art: Legionarie Drone.



Concept and art by Peter.

Are you puzzled by the continuity? Read Seeds Of Deception: the Road Map!

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 02:22 AM



Art by Lau.

Special bonus: lineart for Lightspeed!



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Posted 30 September 2011 - 01:50 PM



Lineart by Ji Hyun.
Colors by Matt.

SoD latest updates:
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2. Trannis: Act 2 - "...And They Have A Plan"
3. Smashing Impact
4. Seeds Of Deception: the Road Map!

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 10:38 AM

Now, please don't take this a criticism, it's just some part of my mental processes, but whenever I see a Transformer with their alt-mode, I try and picture how they get from one to the other and with a lot of your designs (and some elsewhere, but whatever) it's rather hard to form the mental "bridge" between the two forms. Do you put much thought into how they transform? A lot of them look like they wouldn't really be able to actually transform without coming apart and reforming. Take the Lightspeed image above- it obvious that his chest forms the "cockpit", the shins form the front end of his vehicle mode, and I think the flared parts over his shoulders are supposed to go above his front wheels, it's just that it doesn't seem like he'd actually be able to transform that way without some partsforming or very long extending parts (which seems impractical. It's also hard to figure out where the rest of his alt mode is, since there's ver little else visible that shares much in the way of design elements with his robot mode. This might be because it's on his back, but there's no suggestion it's ended up as kibble there.

Don't get me wrong, theses are cool designs, and for the most part that's fine. It's just there's a part of my brain (somewhere in the spacial and analytical sector, I think) saying "That shouldn't work that way! Argh!" and I figure it might placate it if I find out if you guys knew how the transformations worked even in a general sense.

If you're wondering, you're not the only ones my brain has had this problem with. Allspark Almanac II damn near shorted out my brain trying to figure out how some of those buggers actually transformed (Mixmaster and Tracks, stay in the god-damn corner, I'm not ready to forgive you yet!).

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 10:08 AM

The talent hunt preview lineart:



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Posted 14 October 2011 - 02:24 AM



Art by Nate.

Special bonus: promotional fancomic for the #81 campaign! It's issue 78.5 - The Last Quest (Act 1).
Cover Intro page 1 page 2 page 3

SoD latest updates:
1. Lightspeed
2. The Beauty And The Beast
3. Trannis: Act 2 - "...And They Have A Plan"
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QUOTE(Pennpenn @ Oct 1 2011, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now, please don't take this a criticism, it's just some part of my mental processes, but whenever I see a Transformer with their alt-mode, I try and picture how they get from one to the other and with a lot of your designs (and some elsewhere, but whatever) it's rather hard to form the mental "bridge" between the two forms. Do you put much thought into how they transform?


That's a question we should ask the (many) artists that offered their work for free icon-hotrod.gif

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A lot of them look like they wouldn't really be able to actually transform without coming apart and reforming.


Maybe it's so, because there's the problem that we're not "design engineers" working on actual toys for Hasbro. It's a hobby done for free and "strict rules" cannot be forced... it would be quite ungrateful.
Also, consider that real Transforming robots would not work like toys in plastic, and some actual "restructuring" of their body would come in play: mass displacement, phase metals, tesseract storage and so on... all these sci-fi concepts are used to explain how these robots can transform in the most incredible of ways.

Edited by M3Gr1ml0ck, 14 October 2011 - 02:28 AM.


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Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:37 AM

I won't lie and say that it doesn't bother me if it doesn't bother you, it does bother me buuuut thats entirely my problem (as in, the problem I possess within myself, rather than the problem I have with you). It's not like I'm saying you should enforce some strict policy ("you must obey this many laws of physics to enter!") or something, I was just curious if you at least knew in some cases if there was much thought put in to how the Transformers shown get from mode a to mode b.

I didn't mean for my questions to seem snarky or belittling to the artists, and if you feel that way, I'm sorry. I was just asking since it's something that parts of my head do without actually meaning to. I'm not asking that you interrogate your artists, they do good looking work and they shouldn't change just because I have a preference for more... coherent designs (please don't take that as an insult towards the works here. I mean coherent in the sense of there being less obvious "cheating" with regards to the structure of the transformation -as in mass shifting, phasing, etc).

Ah well, I asked, you answered. Anyway.

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:59 AM

QUOTE(Pennpenn @ Oct 25 2011, 06:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didn't mean for my questions to seem snarky or belittling to the artists, and if you feel that way, I'm sorry.


No problem, it's just that I feel already too greedy as I act right now. I dare not ask for more icon-hotrod.gif


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Posted 28 October 2011 - 07:17 AM

If you liked Impactor, you'll love Impacta.



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Posted 18 November 2011 - 04:32 AM

War Within Starscream by Ji Hyun:



Ji Hyun is working on Act 3 of SoD: Starscream, which will feature Lightspeed as well.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 05:02 PM

First Ark Memorial Bas-relief



Lineart by Peter.
Colors by by Christian.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 07:53 AM

A redesign of Unicron's head for Seeds Of Deception (from the DA account of the artist):



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Posted 16 January 2012 - 04:40 AM

A preview of Jetfire/Grimlock.


And check out Peter's gallery for his latest model sheets!

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 03:49 AM


Art by George Vega.



Art by Eric.



Art by Peter.

Special bonus: the latest Transformers fancomic to join the SoD/LS friend Fancomics Projects list is Starscream: A Bitter Longing.

SoD latest updates:
1. A Lesson In History
2. The Answer
3. A Pound Of Flesh, page 1 - 2 - 3.
4. A Spanner In The Works
5. Magnificent Premonition
6. Scattershot and Lightspeed
7. The Beauty And The Beast and Smashing Impact
8. Trannis: Act 2 - "...And They Have A Plan"
9. Seeds Of Deception: the Road Map!

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