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@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2017 - 01:49 PM)

Hey man, don't dongshame.

@  Benbot : (24 April 2017 - 12:32 PM)

#crotchproblems

@  Robowang : (24 April 2017 - 11:53 AM)

Menasor's problem is that his crotch is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high. I couldn't care less about those other issues. If your dong is a chestburster, something ain't right.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:40 AM)

Seems like all the combiners have an issue like that, the legs can never be completely straight in combined mode, the finished big bot is always looming eerily or hip-thrusting.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 11:39 AM)

I doubt having an integrated trailer would have swayed me into buying CW Motormaster. But what definitely put me off were Internet reports of awful hip ratcheting.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

I might also mention that ~not~ being a big truck has worked for the Internet pretty well.

@  unluckiness : (24 April 2017 - 11:32 AM)

I moaned about Motormaster because his combiner mode was awful

@  Rycochet : (24 April 2017 - 11:31 AM)

People moaned about the choices made during Combiner wars.that meant characters like Motormaster/Menasor weren't G1G1G1.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:23 AM)

He could always be a very small red truck.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2017 - 10:59 AM)

But how will you know it's Optimus Prime if he's not a big red truck?

@  Broadside : (24 April 2017 - 10:20 AM)

Personally, I'm not a fan of the extreme-accuracy trend. The character choices are kind of sure-fine-whatever, but outside of stuff like Alpha Trion that's a huge divergence from the source material, there doesn't feel like there's much imagination in the designs any more.

@  Pennpenn : (24 April 2017 - 05:03 AM)

Because you might as well start as you mean to go on?

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

It does. Preview image is Legion's penis tongue.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 04:15 AM)

Hold it. Please tell me Kiss Players doesn't have a GoBox.

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

That is epically messed up

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

GURD.... youtube just auto-played a new trailer for the Alien flick.... featuring John Denver's 'country roads' as BG music....

@  Noideaforaname : (24 April 2017 - 12:37 AM)

The Generations lineup should be decided by hitting Random Page on the wiki. "Next one is... Crankstart." 'Alright, I love the Scavengers!' "No, no, CrankSTART. The repaint of a repaint of a repaint of a Scout version of a Deluxe based on a background vehicle from the Live Action film." 'Oh'

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 11:31 PM)

After we get a couple of Pretenders. And a Titans Return Star Saber (not a difficult retool from Galvatron).

@  BlackMax : (23 April 2017 - 10:21 PM)

I really do like all the attention to the 80s toys, being from that era myself. However, I would be really happy if (let's say post Trypticon) the Generations line turns to the 2001 RiD line, Beast Wars stuff, and moves forwarda bit.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:19 PM)

I'm curious because I'm not an 80s kid nor have I ever held an actual 80s toy in my hands, but I'm pretty sure a mathematically significant portion of 80s kids here do have a like for cartoon accuracy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:15 PM)

How much of this community favors versus not favors the current Hasbro design team's general trend of accuracy to classic 1980s toys and lack of attention to any other era of Transformers?

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 07:36 PM)

Telly, ah, got it.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:41 PM)

"You can do magic things!" "It's called evil, kid."

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

Potatoes don't have ears. That's corn.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

little furry potatos

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:24 PM)

This potato's got big ears...

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:18 PM)

The potato rebellion will be swift and brutal.

@  Waspinator : (23 April 2017 - 03:48 PM)

IT'S WATCHING US

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

yeah, at the time im posting this, theres a "2" next to it and me and fruitloop are shown to be the 2 people reading it

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:33 PM)

i think it just means that someone is reading the shoutbox

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Re The Rise of Cobra: I like bad movies and action sequences involving elite ninjas, so I watched / fast-forwarded through it on Netflix a couple of years ago.

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:23 PM)

Can anyone tell me why the Shoutbox has a notification (a "1") when I login sometimes? I scroll through and don't see anything addressed to me. What does it mean?

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 April 2017 - 01:33 PM)

I miss the 2000s when my local stores got new toys more than once a year.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 01:09 PM)

I mean, it might be hard to not know about something before release at all, but the degree of familiarity that you described is only attainable if you intentionally seek things out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:59 PM)

That's at least partially your own fault. The "in motion" part sounds like you even watched videos, which require conscious effort, unlike pictures that might be hard to even avoid.

@  Bass X0 : (23 April 2017 - 12:22 PM)

I miss the 80s where the first time I ever saw Transformers toys was on the toy shelves and hadn't already saw the toy from every angle and in motion several months beforehand. It made seeing a toy in the store something very special to me that I can't recapture now.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

I could see Generations becoming a TRU exclusive line, now that I think about it.

@  Xellos : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

Also, Generations weathered AOE, and the TLK line seems to be short as well, so I think we'll still be seeing some room for Generations.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 12:11 PM)

Titans aren't really wide-released anyway. About the only brick-and-mortar chain to reliably carry them is Toys R Us.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:08 PM)

Isn't Trypticon still a long way from now?

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

They wouldn't let a big-ticket item like that get cancelled.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

Counter argument: They still haven't released Trypticon.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:25 AM)

But yeah, not having any big-name media means it's the most likely, although the premiere series packaging might convince retailers to dedicate more shelf space, kinda like SW Black.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:24 AM)

I'd expect Generations to be the sacrificial lamb since they can't possibly stock RID any less.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:06 AM)

I'm thinking the subline that doesn't have a movie or TV show will be the one on the cutting board.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:05 AM)

Back to TF toys: the question is whether or not retailers will be willing to commit the peg/shelf space for three sublines. And which one will be sidelined if space is at a premium.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 06:28 AM)

No idea.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 03:40 AM)

Sometimes the Shoutbox takes a little longer to catch up to a new avatar.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 03:00 AM)

In the Shoutbox I'm seeing the pink thing instead of that guy with the weird eyes.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 02:59 AM)

looks the same to me. maybe it looks different cause its smaller?


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#1 M3Gr1ml0ck

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 04:30 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents the latest entries in the Characters Art Gallery.

The new Rodimus Prime, by Pablo Simon and Christian.
Razorclaw vs Onslaught, by Fabio.
Golden Age Astrotrain, by Koen and Christian.



Don't miss the other updates for today, in this same forum: page 7 of Arcee In Wonderland and Magnus: Act IV - "Battle above the sea".

Be here in seven days for the conclusion: Magnus: Act V - "Legacy"

Edited by M3Gr1ml0ck, 07 April 2012 - 06:09 AM.


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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:53 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Ratbat and the New Junkions!

By Iohannes, Ibai and Victoria.







The Junkion Shaman will be featured in a Short Story for "The Evil That Mechs Do".
The Berserkers and Firearm are featured in Constant Moons: Paradise Lost, the story about their secret origins.
Ratbat needs a model sheet because he will be involved in an Eternal Feud (against who?).
What's next? What about Override's Earth mode?

Don't miss the other update for today, in this same forum: page 10 of Arcee In Wonderland.

Also, keep an eye on the art pages of YounJu (for some sweet sequential lineart about G1 Insecticons in manga style) and Tf #81 from IDW (the campaign to have Furman continue his G1 Marvel saga... the page will soon feature the works of some familiar faces!).


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Posted 05 August 2011 - 03:12 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Characters art: the Lawless Times King and Grimlock.

By Ibai and YounJu.



Don't miss the other update for today, in this same forum: SoD: Swindle - "The Cause Of War and page 12 of Arcee In Wonderland.

Next Friday, look out for The Lost Seasons: Attack Of The DIA-clones, Act 1.

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Posted 12 August 2011 - 02:29 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Characters art: Decepticon Command Station.



Also, Boltax in action:



These images are a preview of an upcoming SoD Special Story.
Lineart by Jeremy and colors by Andr?s.

Don't miss the other update for today, in this same forum: page 13 of Arcee In Wonderland.

Check this forum every Friday, because there are two great stories coming soon: SoD: Trannis, Act 2 and The Lost Seasons: Attack Of The DIA-clones, Acts 1 & 2


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Posted 19 August 2011 - 03:14 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Characters art: War Within Venom.



Lineart by Simon and colors by Avery.

Don't miss the other update for today, in this same forum: The Lost Seasons: Attack Of The DIA-clones, Act 1 and the last chapter of Arcee In Wonderland.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:17 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Characters art: Interplanetary Col War Infiltration 1.0 Venom.



Lineart by Koen and colors by Dohee.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 02:47 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Characters art: Legionarie Drone.



Concept and art by Peter.

Are you puzzled by the continuity? Read Seeds Of Deception: the Road Map!

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 02:22 AM



Art by Lau.

Special bonus: lineart for Lightspeed!



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Posted 30 September 2011 - 01:50 PM



Lineart by Ji Hyun.
Colors by Matt.

SoD latest updates:
1. The Beauty And The Beast
2. Trannis: Act 2 - "...And They Have A Plan"
3. Smashing Impact
4. Seeds Of Deception: the Road Map!

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 10:38 AM

Now, please don't take this a criticism, it's just some part of my mental processes, but whenever I see a Transformer with their alt-mode, I try and picture how they get from one to the other and with a lot of your designs (and some elsewhere, but whatever) it's rather hard to form the mental "bridge" between the two forms. Do you put much thought into how they transform? A lot of them look like they wouldn't really be able to actually transform without coming apart and reforming. Take the Lightspeed image above- it obvious that his chest forms the "cockpit", the shins form the front end of his vehicle mode, and I think the flared parts over his shoulders are supposed to go above his front wheels, it's just that it doesn't seem like he'd actually be able to transform that way without some partsforming or very long extending parts (which seems impractical. It's also hard to figure out where the rest of his alt mode is, since there's ver little else visible that shares much in the way of design elements with his robot mode. This might be because it's on his back, but there's no suggestion it's ended up as kibble there.

Don't get me wrong, theses are cool designs, and for the most part that's fine. It's just there's a part of my brain (somewhere in the spacial and analytical sector, I think) saying "That shouldn't work that way! Argh!" and I figure it might placate it if I find out if you guys knew how the transformations worked even in a general sense.

If you're wondering, you're not the only ones my brain has had this problem with. Allspark Almanac II damn near shorted out my brain trying to figure out how some of those buggers actually transformed (Mixmaster and Tracks, stay in the god-damn corner, I'm not ready to forgive you yet!).

Edited by Pennpenn, 01 October 2011 - 10:41 AM.


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Posted 10 October 2011 - 10:08 AM

The talent hunt preview lineart:



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Posted 14 October 2011 - 02:24 AM



Art by Nate.

Special bonus: promotional fancomic for the #81 campaign! It's issue 78.5 - The Last Quest (Act 1).
Cover Intro page 1 page 2 page 3

SoD latest updates:
1. Lightspeed
2. The Beauty And The Beast
3. Trannis: Act 2 - "...And They Have A Plan"
4. Smashing Impact
5. Seeds Of Deception: the Road Map!

Check this forum every Friday for more updates: Magnificent Premonition, art for War Within Chop Shop, The Exception To The Rule and more.

QUOTE(Pennpenn @ Oct 1 2011, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now, please don't take this a criticism, it's just some part of my mental processes, but whenever I see a Transformer with their alt-mode, I try and picture how they get from one to the other and with a lot of your designs (and some elsewhere, but whatever) it's rather hard to form the mental "bridge" between the two forms. Do you put much thought into how they transform?


That's a question we should ask the (many) artists that offered their work for free icon-hotrod.gif

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A lot of them look like they wouldn't really be able to actually transform without coming apart and reforming.


Maybe it's so, because there's the problem that we're not "design engineers" working on actual toys for Hasbro. It's a hobby done for free and "strict rules" cannot be forced... it would be quite ungrateful.
Also, consider that real Transforming robots would not work like toys in plastic, and some actual "restructuring" of their body would come in play: mass displacement, phase metals, tesseract storage and so on... all these sci-fi concepts are used to explain how these robots can transform in the most incredible of ways.

Edited by M3Gr1ml0ck, 14 October 2011 - 02:28 AM.


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Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:37 AM

I won't lie and say that it doesn't bother me if it doesn't bother you, it does bother me buuuut thats entirely my problem (as in, the problem I possess within myself, rather than the problem I have with you). It's not like I'm saying you should enforce some strict policy ("you must obey this many laws of physics to enter!") or something, I was just curious if you at least knew in some cases if there was much thought put in to how the Transformers shown get from mode a to mode b.

I didn't mean for my questions to seem snarky or belittling to the artists, and if you feel that way, I'm sorry. I was just asking since it's something that parts of my head do without actually meaning to. I'm not asking that you interrogate your artists, they do good looking work and they shouldn't change just because I have a preference for more... coherent designs (please don't take that as an insult towards the works here. I mean coherent in the sense of there being less obvious "cheating" with regards to the structure of the transformation -as in mass shifting, phasing, etc).

Ah well, I asked, you answered. Anyway.

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:59 AM

QUOTE(Pennpenn @ Oct 25 2011, 06:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didn't mean for my questions to seem snarky or belittling to the artists, and if you feel that way, I'm sorry.


No problem, it's just that I feel already too greedy as I act right now. I dare not ask for more icon-hotrod.gif


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Posted 28 October 2011 - 07:17 AM

If you liked Impactor, you'll love Impacta.



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Posted 18 November 2011 - 04:32 AM

War Within Starscream by Ji Hyun:



Ji Hyun is working on Act 3 of SoD: Starscream, which will feature Lightspeed as well.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 05:02 PM

First Ark Memorial Bas-relief



Lineart by Peter.
Colors by by Christian.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 07:53 AM

A redesign of Unicron's head for Seeds Of Deception (from the DA account of the artist):



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Posted 16 January 2012 - 04:40 AM

A preview of Jetfire/Grimlock.


And check out Peter's gallery for his latest model sheets!

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 03:49 AM


Art by George Vega.



Art by Eric.



Art by Peter.

Special bonus: the latest Transformers fancomic to join the SoD/LS friend Fancomics Projects list is Starscream: A Bitter Longing.

SoD latest updates:
1. A Lesson In History
2. The Answer
3. A Pound Of Flesh, page 1 - 2 - 3.
4. A Spanner In The Works
5. Magnificent Premonition
6. Scattershot and Lightspeed
7. The Beauty And The Beast and Smashing Impact
8. Trannis: Act 2 - "...And They Have A Plan"
9. Seeds Of Deception: the Road Map!

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