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@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

On the plus side, tho, TFW has "appreciation threads" for practically everything, even stuff like Kre-O and PCC. And their toy database is quite handy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

I've been happily posting on TFW for years. Then, after being *here* for a few months, I look back and wonder how the hell I even bothered with it. I mean, my ignore list had hundreds of people on it. Literally HUNDREDS of ignored people. I even showed off said gargantuan list once (with a small thumbnail that you couldn't read any of the names on, mind you). That... that really should have been a warning sign, I suppose...

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Thanks, I enjoyed reading the nerdrage. I should hang out over there more often.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:07 PM)

I mean, Reveal Your Shield. That gets complained about too.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:04 PM)

One of the reveal the shield news threads at TFW has movie fans and G1 fans arguing over who has it worse

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

You got me awfully curious. What thread ware we talking about?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.


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Posted 10 June 2011 - 09:30 PM




Looks like they've been Squatted.

Edited by Rinshan Kaihou, 19 August 2012 - 09:33 PM.

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 09:44 PM

Or, y'know, its a makeshift "Codex" to use while the new one is being made. This happened to Blood Angels a while back before they got their new one. If they'd been "Squatted" then GW would be pretending like they didn't exist.

Edited by Pennpenn, 10 June 2011 - 09:45 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2011 - 09:49 PM

I think it depends on their sales from this point. Rumour is that they're going to release a five-sisters model box and some repentia and stuff that'll supposedly be convertable to most of the army list.

But if that doesn't sell well I don't see much future for the army personally.

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 10:09 PM

I think the main reason for a sub-codex at this point is because they probably don't want to release a new Inquisition codex so near the Grey Knights codex, but so much of the game has moved away from the Witch Hunter's codex, like the allies system, that just releasing something like that will just tidy it up somewhat. Obviously how much attention they get in future depends on their sellability, but unlike the Squats (for instance), they can't really be just written out of existence now. I really do think this is just meant to be a stopgap measure rather than the final death rattle for the Sisters. But we'll see.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 04:07 AM

I am disapointed, but I'm not surprised. Mat Ward does seem to have... issues with the Sisters of Battle, if the new Grey Knight book has anything to do with it. Also, GW's target market seems to be at the "girls are icky" stage. Both add up to a situation where the Sisters are going to be ignored in favour of more manly power-armoured spess mehreens, but in a variety of hats.

I doubt they'll be truly Squatted (Entirely ignored, have a Hive Fleet dropped on them) but they might get scaled back to the level of support the AdMech now get (Which is to say none). Which is a shame, because the metal Sisters were cracking models.

?5 says Black Templars will be taking their slot in the codex release queue.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 08:04 AM

Aww. The Sisters are awesome.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 08:07 AM

Some raging fan boy will update the last rule set into the next one if they do get squatted out of existance. Nothing will stop people from being able to play the sisters in up to date games.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 08:08 AM

Incidentally, I'm getting back into Warhammer by repairing my Emperor's Children army. I made up a fun but not especially competitive list if anyone wants this to become a general warhammer thread.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 08:38 AM

To be honest I kinda see the codex in White Dwarf as a positive thing, in that they're still doing something with the army to get it up to date, instead of letting it languish until it gets rereleased, like for instance, Necrons, or Dark Eldar. Maybe I'm just being naive, but it feels better than being pessimistic.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 01:26 PM

i miss the days when white dork would put alternate rules and army lists in it and not just a bunch of rigged battle reports. paint articles are still useful though.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 06:56 PM

I hope the Dark Eldar proved to GW that if you make nice enough looking models, they're going to sell.
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Posted 11 June 2011 - 08:45 PM

I just wish the Daemonettes could have been as good as the Dark Eldar models. Or, well, just not so bad.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:32 AM

QUOTE(Pennpenn @ Jun 12 2011, 02:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just wish the Daemonettes could have been as good as the Dark Eldar models. Or, well, just not so bad.


Should just recast the last batch of metal ones into resin.
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Posted 12 June 2011 - 05:07 AM

Anyone know if GW is still doing anything with Warmaster? Was always more interested in the big battles than anything else.


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Posted 12 June 2011 - 05:10 AM

I'm fairly sure you can still get the models from GW, and I think the rules are free to get now, but GW haven't really done anything to do Epic scale for some time.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 06:19 AM

Warmaster is dead in the water. You can get the rules for free, and plenty of third parties make 6mm Fantasy figures, so you're not left high and dry when the current "official" molds wear out.

I dunno if this is the place to bring it up, but I've got my hands on the Alpha Test of Mantic's Sci-Fi game, Warpath. From what I've seen? Knocks 40k into a cocked hat, especially in simulating "big" games. My only serious problem so far is that, like 40k, there's a universal movement characteristic and a slew of special rules for different speeds, rather than just a seperate "Move" stat. The concept art for the Forgefathers looks tasty as well, which just goes to show how much GW dropped the ball on their own Dorfs in Space concept. Can't wait to see the Marauders, although I'd prefer it if they moved a bit further list-wise from Orks. A public Beta should be out by the end of the month with any luck.
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Posted 12 June 2011 - 06:36 AM

I?ll just leave this here...seems appropriate enough.

And I agree with Ambassador?s assessment of the rules, good stuff overall, with some hiccups.
I already dug out my Deathwing (using the forgeguard rules) and I?ll try and get some games in against a mate?s orks.

Edited by WorkbenchManiac, 12 June 2011 - 06:38 AM.


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Posted 12 June 2011 - 07:38 AM

Cool, but I'll wait for Mantic's molding skills to improve before I start buying them.

Citadel Minitures are just so good.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 08:08 AM

I think you mean sculpting and design, the molding itself is top notch with Mantic (done by Renedra, the guys who previously worked for GW).

I don?t plan to buy any Mantic Scifi models either, since I already have too many miniatures as it is, but I?m glad to have a set of rules in which I can use my existing models (Citadel, Mongoose, Heartbreaker, Target, whatever). I really like the 40k background and imagery, but the game itself is severly lacking, so it?s nice to have a better and more streamlined ruleset available.



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Posted 12 June 2011 - 08:30 AM

See for me, I enjoy GW miniatures and their rules sets. I just refuse to play the game of 'buy this while we keep upping our prices and offering less'.

I have enough GW stuff to paint forever, so I can always play. I just don't buy anymore



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