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@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 November 2019 - 11:00 AM)

That's okay: between ever more extreme weather, ever more violent society, and general paranoia of parents: halloweens not doing to well out here either.

@  Anonymous X : (06 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

We used to have Bonfire Night here in the UK as our thing instead of Halloween... It's withered away for the most part. Halloween used to be the strange American tradition you knew of from ET or various cartoons


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Posted 10 June 2011 - 09:30 PM




Looks like they've been Squatted.

Edited by Rinshan Kaihou, 19 August 2012 - 09:33 PM.

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 09:44 PM

Or, y'know, its a makeshift "Codex" to use while the new one is being made. This happened to Blood Angels a while back before they got their new one. If they'd been "Squatted" then GW would be pretending like they didn't exist.

Edited by Pennpenn, 10 June 2011 - 09:45 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2011 - 09:49 PM

I think it depends on their sales from this point. Rumour is that they're going to release a five-sisters model box and some repentia and stuff that'll supposedly be convertable to most of the army list.

But if that doesn't sell well I don't see much future for the army personally.

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 10:09 PM

I think the main reason for a sub-codex at this point is because they probably don't want to release a new Inquisition codex so near the Grey Knights codex, but so much of the game has moved away from the Witch Hunter's codex, like the allies system, that just releasing something like that will just tidy it up somewhat. Obviously how much attention they get in future depends on their sellability, but unlike the Squats (for instance), they can't really be just written out of existence now. I really do think this is just meant to be a stopgap measure rather than the final death rattle for the Sisters. But we'll see.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 04:07 AM

I am disapointed, but I'm not surprised. Mat Ward does seem to have... issues with the Sisters of Battle, if the new Grey Knight book has anything to do with it. Also, GW's target market seems to be at the "girls are icky" stage. Both add up to a situation where the Sisters are going to be ignored in favour of more manly power-armoured spess mehreens, but in a variety of hats.

I doubt they'll be truly Squatted (Entirely ignored, have a Hive Fleet dropped on them) but they might get scaled back to the level of support the AdMech now get (Which is to say none). Which is a shame, because the metal Sisters were cracking models.

?5 says Black Templars will be taking their slot in the codex release queue.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 08:04 AM

Aww. The Sisters are awesome.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 08:07 AM

Some raging fan boy will update the last rule set into the next one if they do get squatted out of existance. Nothing will stop people from being able to play the sisters in up to date games.
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Posted 11 June 2011 - 08:08 AM

Incidentally, I'm getting back into Warhammer by repairing my Emperor's Children army. I made up a fun but not especially competitive list if anyone wants this to become a general warhammer thread.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 08:38 AM

To be honest I kinda see the codex in White Dwarf as a positive thing, in that they're still doing something with the army to get it up to date, instead of letting it languish until it gets rereleased, like for instance, Necrons, or Dark Eldar. Maybe I'm just being naive, but it feels better than being pessimistic.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 01:26 PM

i miss the days when white dork would put alternate rules and army lists in it and not just a bunch of rigged battle reports. paint articles are still useful though.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 06:56 PM

I hope the Dark Eldar proved to GW that if you make nice enough looking models, they're going to sell.
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Posted 11 June 2011 - 08:45 PM

I just wish the Daemonettes could have been as good as the Dark Eldar models. Or, well, just not so bad.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:32 AM

QUOTE(Pennpenn @ Jun 12 2011, 02:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just wish the Daemonettes could have been as good as the Dark Eldar models. Or, well, just not so bad.


Should just recast the last batch of metal ones into resin.
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Posted 12 June 2011 - 05:10 AM

I'm fairly sure you can still get the models from GW, and I think the rules are free to get now, but GW haven't really done anything to do Epic scale for some time.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 06:19 AM

Warmaster is dead in the water. You can get the rules for free, and plenty of third parties make 6mm Fantasy figures, so you're not left high and dry when the current "official" molds wear out.

I dunno if this is the place to bring it up, but I've got my hands on the Alpha Test of Mantic's Sci-Fi game, Warpath. From what I've seen? Knocks 40k into a cocked hat, especially in simulating "big" games. My only serious problem so far is that, like 40k, there's a universal movement characteristic and a slew of special rules for different speeds, rather than just a seperate "Move" stat. The concept art for the Forgefathers looks tasty as well, which just goes to show how much GW dropped the ball on their own Dorfs in Space concept. Can't wait to see the Marauders, although I'd prefer it if they moved a bit further list-wise from Orks. A public Beta should be out by the end of the month with any luck.
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Posted 12 June 2011 - 06:36 AM

I?ll just leave this here...seems appropriate enough.

And I agree with Ambassador?s assessment of the rules, good stuff overall, with some hiccups.
I already dug out my Deathwing (using the forgeguard rules) and I?ll try and get some games in against a mate?s orks.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 07:38 AM

Cool, but I'll wait for Mantic's molding skills to improve before I start buying them.

Citadel Minitures are just so good.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 08:08 AM

I think you mean sculpting and design, the molding itself is top notch with Mantic (done by Renedra, the guys who previously worked for GW).

I don?t plan to buy any Mantic Scifi models either, since I already have too many miniatures as it is, but I?m glad to have a set of rules in which I can use my existing models (Citadel, Mongoose, Heartbreaker, Target, whatever). I really like the 40k background and imagery, but the game itself is severly lacking, so it?s nice to have a better and more streamlined ruleset available.



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Posted 12 June 2011 - 08:30 AM

See for me, I enjoy GW miniatures and their rules sets. I just refuse to play the game of 'buy this while we keep upping our prices and offering less'.

I have enough GW stuff to paint forever, so I can always play. I just don't buy anymore

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 08:38 AM

QUOTE(Fires Of Hokkai @ Jun 12 2011, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Citadel Minitures are just so good.


It all comes back to the cost, though. Speaking for myself, I just think they're a rip-off at the current prices (If I'm honest with myself, GW went off the deep end when a Space Marine Tactical Squad jumped to ?20). I can't justify ?18 for ten 28mm toy soldiers, not when I recall said toy soldiers being ?15 for 20 six years ago. It's scary when Forge World start looking like a reasonably-priced alternative.

But the thing with Warpath is that it's not like they're going to stop you from using other manufacturers. My interest in it is mostly mechanical, as I think 40k as a game is a train-wreck. It's a great setting and they make great (If comically ovepriced) toy soldiers. But Warpath seems to be able to let me play in that setting with the minimum of fuss. Odds are I will pick up the models as well.
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