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@  Locoman : (23 January 2018 - 12:39 AM)

-shrugs- He says the right things more often, at least.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2018 - 11:03 PM)

Well is Trudeau an improvement over Harper?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 10:54 PM)

Most of the country is sick of trudeau, they very well might get in anyway. Might as well vote for the shmuck who actually wants to do good, but will accidentally screw it up, over the shmucks who'll lie about it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:14 PM)

Voting NDP is how the Conservatives get in, though

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

because the road to hell is, after all, paved with good intentions.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

There isn't one of those in this lot. Vote for the one whom won't deliberately do damage... so NDP.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:09 PM)

I usually feel an obligation to vote in any election, but I honestly won't know who to vote for next time around. I don't like any of them, and I think the best we can hope for is someone who won't do any more damage

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Pretending to try to figure out how to undo the absolutely flawless system of wealth concentration they and their predecessors designed

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Well, they're all off to Davos now, supposedly to lament the horribly skewed wealth distribution that's gotten even worse since last year's meeting

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:03 PM)

Conversely, being impressed by politicians isn't something you should be happy about.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:02 PM)

The other side of the canadian coin right now is a harper clone. If trudeau runs again, the choice is NDP or liberal. It all depends on how the NDP plays out under the new guy, but so far I am unimpressed.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

I don't disagree. Trudeau is a clown and he's been a huge disappointment. I was naive enough to believe he'd actually stick to his word and do something to help the middle class. He's never getting my vote again

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

This little raptor is freaking BOSS! Also, I've been drinking, so kinda mellow.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

Been playing with slash for the last hour though, totally worth it.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

After duties and the exchange AND shipping. I'm not even going to bother appealing, it'll take ages and achieve nothing.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

I assuming it was toys, and those have a 0% duty rate even when the object isn't of North American manufacture. In that case, it just should've been taxes and the processing fee

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

We won't get it. Nothing the trudeau government has done has actually helped the end level canadian citizen, and with trump on the other side: it'll only get worse.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

Wonko, if you feel the customs weren't assessed properly you can always contact them to appeal. Generally, the fee should only be taxes (GST/QST in your case) + duties (if applicable, depending on the type of item where it was made) + Canada Post's processing fee. If the item was properly valued on the parcel, it usually shouldn't reach paid twice territory

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:49 PM)

One of the things I'm hoping comes out of these NAFTA talks (assuming they don't kill it) is Canada adopting an increased duty-free limit. $20 compared to the American's $800 is really ridiculous

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:47 PM)

Stuff sent via more expensive shipping methods, though, might attract their attention more often

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:46 PM)

Although it might depend what method it was sent via USPS. Pretty much the only things I receive from the US anymore in Canada are sent First Class Parcel (which is trackable), and I don't think Customs really scrutinizes those ones that much

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

In fact I almost never get charged. Only when the stated value on the package is in the extreme range, like $300 or more

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

Strange the duties were so high. I've been hit by UPS with their insane fees, but I've always had good experiences with USPS and Canada Post

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 05:36 PM)

USPS then canada post.

@  RichardT1977 : (22 January 2018 - 05:25 PM)

Very carefully, I hope

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 PM)

How was it delivered?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 02:24 PM)

the duties pushed the cost of it into "paid twice" range.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2018 - 02:06 PM)

Well, at least hospitalization won't send you into bankruptcy. There's always that.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (22 January 2018 - 01:52 PM)

o.O

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 01:40 PM)

And not happy anymore. 40 bucks on duties. Free trade my ass.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 11:26 AM)

Yay! I should get my package from BBTS today!

@  Arazyr : (22 January 2018 - 10:50 AM)

Okay, now I get the snake thing. Thanks for the Pokemon reference. It was a bit after my time... 8^)

@  CastletonSnob : (22 January 2018 - 08:05 AM)

This is a Transformers fansite. Do you like big bots and you cannot lie?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 AM)

no. was just making a silly/stupid joke

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2018 - 03:22 AM)

Onyx is a stone. Onix is a rock snake. Do you even Pokemon, bro?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 02:44 AM)

could be a rock made of snakes. we just dont know!

@  Foffy : (22 January 2018 - 02:15 AM)

He is a snake made of rock, though

@  Jetstream C-18 : (21 January 2018 - 08:56 PM)

No, Onyx is a snake.

@  Arazyr : (21 January 2018 - 01:12 PM)

Something I only just "got" last night: Of course IDW's GB Blackrock is associated with Onyx Prime. Onyx is a black rock.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 January 2018 - 07:37 AM)

Bet a lot of military people won't want to work this monday. ;(

@  Pennpenn : (21 January 2018 - 07:27 AM)

It seems sort of intuitive for a lot of people because it's the first day in the week that you're working.

@  Nevermore : (21 January 2018 - 04:54 AM)

Germany considers Monday the first day of the week.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2018 - 01:34 AM)

The judge obviously had a more material motive than the one he claimed, there need to be some serious investigation of that case.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 05:04 PM)

The reason is even worse. :(

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 04:34 PM)

That moron is a shame to his profession.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 09:34 AM)

I just think a Judge going on and Jury Tampering, trying to make the Jury think a sex taffiker is innocent is sickening. *won't say why he did that as that goes in P&R*

@  Sabrblade : (20 January 2018 - 09:21 AM)

Heh, the schedules for my work weeks begin with Saturday

@  wonko the sane? : (20 January 2018 - 07:01 AM)

Thing about the US is... you can say that any time you want as much as you want. You're still going to get shot, but it might not be because you said that though.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 January 2018 - 02:20 AM)

You just did.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 02:18 AM)

Can I just say that right now... I hate the USA?


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What news would you have wanted to hear from Botcon 2011?


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#1 (Deactivated) mignash

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 04:53 PM

I've heard several people complain (and I'm one of them) about the lack of news, announcements and new products from Botcon 2011.

Do if you had gotten what you wanted (within the reason of possibility), what would the news have been? PCCs coming back with new molds? A promise to finish Classics '84 and '85 characters in the coming year? Season 4 of Animated signed for release as a comic? Simon Furman greenlit for Marvel Transformers issue 81+. New partnership with Hasbro and igear?

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 05:02 PM

For me I would have liked to have seen some more yet to be revealed figures, but it is what it is.

I'm really happy Fun Publications showed their mockups for Drift, Runabout, and Runamuck and not just the G1 figures (for R & R) and RtS Wheeljack in a photo like some of the previous ones.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 05:11 PM

I am kinda in the same boat about the figures, but I guess alot of factors kind of explain why there whern't that many new reveals. These are all my thoughs on what made this Botcon seem lackluster compared to others, and again, my thoughts are as a non-attendee who uses Botcon as a source for upcoming toy information primarily. I think if Botcon had happened a few months sooner, or a few months later, there would have been alot more toy info.

- The movies are certified smash hits, and about 100 new toys just hit shelves a month before the con. Why preview stuff we already know is on it's way?

- Prime is established as a solid cartoon already, no new TV reboots in the emminent future. They showed us the Prime toys as a dedicated toyline, which may have been more then we should have expected considering Prime toys where rumored to be Generations filler.

- Amazon Unicron and a in-package shot of MP Rodimus where both unexpected, especially so soon, that gives the elitist collector market some hope icon-waspy.gif

- I would have liked actual test shots of upcoming Generations toys, to help me really beleive they are coming back shortly. But if they knew they still needed to distribute the standing stock and exisitng figures, they might not be focusing on tooling new figures for the line yet.

- The 3rd party companies are all hitting thier stride, some of those showings where amazing. It's almost unfair in a way, as a 3rd party can bulk up or paint up it's 'deluxe' sized toys as much as they need to, because they choose thier pricing. Hasbro can't do anything that would significantly raise the cost of a figure above the rest of it's assortment.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 05:29 PM

Realistically? I would have wanted to have seen more upcoming DotM molds. I wanted to see a LOT more new mold Cyberverse commanders and at least a few more waves of deluxes and voyagers. I know they were holding some stuff back until after the movie but I would have rather them not done that. This whole business of hiding Soundwave, Dino, and Que from us seems excessive.

Oh, and Frenzy, Rumble, and Windcharger snuck into a box set somewhere. Maybe a teaser or something suggesting some upcoming Generations characters they are actively working on.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 05:30 PM

Jhiaxus. For me that's pretty much just perpetually one of those things I always want to see done "right."

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 05:54 PM

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 07:26 PM

Generations Leader-Class Fortress Maximus, first quarter 2012.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 07:41 PM

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I would have liked to have seen the upcoming DOTM toys that they kept hidden. However, we'll probably see at least some of those in stores before SDCC.

More PCCs would have been great, but I didn't expect any. I am a bit disappointed that we never got an Omega Supreme-based PCC that Siebenaler seemed interested in last Botcon, but whatever.

I'm really surprised we didn't at least see the next wave of Generations.

I would have liked to have seen at least one TFP toy that hasn't already been shown. I guess we could see some of that at SDCC (like how they showed a ton of Animated stuff at SDCC 2007).

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 08:28 PM

I was hoping for reveals of more leader class DOTM toys.
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Posted 07 June 2011 - 10:26 PM

Anything at all about a Generations line that is supposedly, but unfortunately not likely, continuing. Pretty sure Paramount didn't limit the info on that one, but I'm sure there is an excuse - because there always is.
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Posted 07 June 2011 - 10:35 PM

So I really like the movie style for the movie, but I don't care for it as toys...so I would have loved, say a Hasbro, um Impactor. or new Overlord ect.. But I guess I wonder at the complete lack of new figure announcements, is Hasbro finally, really, holding out on us?

Every year they get leaked, then they say no more, then they show us stuff for the next year anyway. Did they finally get smart?

I say yes.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 10:43 PM

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Oh, and Frenzy, Rumble, and Windcharger snuck into a box set somewhere.


This really would have been all the news I needed.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 10:56 PM

I was very surprised not to see any Generations, since it's continuing but we have no idea what's next beyond what's out.
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Posted 08 June 2011 - 04:55 AM

Yes, I'll join the group and say anything, even just verbal hints, as to WHAT Generations toys would be on shelves through the end of the year. Saying it would continue with no new solicitations made and no protos shown is just both frustrating and suspicious. Prototype pics are Great, but even a bit of talk about who and where they wanted to go would have done it.

If I could choose: Trailbreaker and Hoist (as they once previewed Sunstreaker and Sideswipe together), Sunstorm, Rhinox and a handful of surprises (let's just throw out Scrounge, Chromdome, Jhiaxus, Aerialbot Skydive, Lightspeed, and G1 Elita 1 as the sort of names I like but really I'm pretty open to any cool surprises here.)

Also an Exclusive (TRU, Target, Walmart I don't care) box set for the holidays of Windcharger, Rumble and Frenzy would have MADE the con all on its own.


ZacWilliam, even more G1-ish DotM stuff like Guzzle would have helped, but what I wanted was even the littlest tidbit of Gen news.

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 05:07 AM

Any word on Generations other that it's not over, we already knew it was going to go on, but it would be nice to know who was in the next wave, or if they are just going to reship all the old waves again or what. At least we got to see the three pack.

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 05:16 AM

Is DotM Air Raid going to be released outside Japan or what?

Seriously, that's all I wanted to know, and we got nothing about him

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 05:29 AM

All the ones in the first post, plus:

- Someone asking Hasbro about what they think about 3d party TFs like Igear's 'Not-Ironhide'. If only just for the awkward glances between the attending Igear guys and Aaron.

- Why Hasbro seems to be headstrong about repeating the mistake they made with Animated, as in, airing a cartoon without any toys on the market (for almost a year, since Prime toys are only coming in the Autumn). Have they learned nothing?

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 05:37 AM

QUOTE(Smitty @ Jun 8 2011, 04:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Any word on Generations other that it's not over, we already knew it was going to go on, but it would be nice to know who was in the next wave, or if they are just going to reship all the old waves again or what. At least we got to see the three pack.

Even reshipping old waves would be nice. I've missed out on a few of the end of line figures due to movie distro killing generations/rts distro, and wouldn't mind a shot at getting them at msrp.

I'll agree, more Generations stuff would have interested me. As it is, for the next year I'm looking at a handful of movie figures, then...nada. I guess it's good the third parties are upping their offerings, I'm going to have a bit of spare disposable income in my transforming toy budget in the coming year.

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 11:46 AM

QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Jun 8 2011, 06:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All the ones in the first post, plus:

- Someone asking Hasbro about what they think about 3d party TFs like Igear's 'Not-Ironhide'. If only just for the awkward glances between the attending Igear guys and Aaron.


Umm...no.

Of course they're *aware* of them but they probably can't comment on them officially because to do so means that Hasbro as a company is aware of them. That could be used against them in an intellectual property suit if they decided to take these third-party manufacturers to court. In fact, the third-party companies could even bring up that they were allowed to show their "infringing" upcoming product at an official, Hasbro-sponsored convention without consequence to demonstrate that Hasbro was not only aware of the product but took a passive approach to the matter and did nothing about it.

However, if you were joking, just disregard everything I just said.

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 11:52 AM

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Of course they're *aware* of them but they probably can't comment on them officially because to do so means that Hasbro as a company is aware of them. That could be used against them in an intellectual property suit if they decided to take these third-party manufacturers to court. In fact, the third-party companies could even bring up that they were allowed to show their "infringing" upcoming product at an official, Hasbro-sponsored convention without consequence to demonstrate that Hasbro was not only aware of the product but took a passive approach to the matter and did nothing about it.


All of the above. And, didn't Hasbro "officially" comment on them (albeit generally) at last year's Botcon? Or was that the year before last?

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