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@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 05:04 PM)

The reason is even worse. :(

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 04:34 PM)

That moron is a shame to his profession.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 09:34 AM)

I just think a Judge going on and Jury Tampering, trying to make the Jury think a sex taffiker is innocent is sickening. *won't say why he did that as that goes in P&R*

@  Sabrblade : (20 January 2018 - 09:21 AM)

Heh, the schedules for my work weeks begin with Saturday

@  wonko the sane? : (20 January 2018 - 07:01 AM)

Thing about the US is... you can say that any time you want as much as you want. You're still going to get shot, but it might not be because you said that though.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 January 2018 - 02:20 AM)

You just did.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 02:18 AM)

Can I just say that right now... I hate the USA?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 January 2018 - 01:34 AM)

There are languages where the days are named for numbers and Sunday is "one". Like Arabic.

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2018 - 01:31 AM)

Isn't it sort of a religious thing for Sunday to be the start of the week but most people just go with the first day they go to work for the week?

@  unitremover : (20 January 2018 - 01:02 AM)

I feel like I've known plenty of Americans who'd say Monday is the first day of the week.

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2018 - 12:57 AM)

Personally Monday will always be the first day of the week for me. The notion that Sunday is somehow the first day of the week seems completely nonsensical to me.

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2018 - 12:57 AM)

I'm fairly sure it is in Australia, but that tends to get blurred because of US influence.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 12:19 AM)

(It's Sunday here in the U.S.)

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 12:18 AM)

Anyone here live in a country where Monday is considered the first day of the week?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 January 2018 - 08:40 PM)

Maybe?

@  Patchouli Kn... : (19 January 2018 - 08:38 PM)

But do they search barf?

@  BlackMax : (19 January 2018 - 08:38 PM)

Under water, the fish don't stink.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 January 2018 - 07:42 PM)

I read that at first as "Everyone is a fish...."

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 January 2018 - 06:08 PM)

Everyone has a fetish, I guess.

@  BlackMax : (19 January 2018 - 05:56 PM)

I parsed it as "search barf" at first.

@  Nevermore : (19 January 2018 - 05:05 PM)

Robowang nude hiden cam photos

@  Robowang : (19 January 2018 - 02:54 PM)

Oh, hey, that's not the search bar! Whoops.

@  Robowang : (19 January 2018 - 12:48 PM)

reflector camera mode

@  MEDdMI : (19 January 2018 - 12:14 PM)

But did you get a Snowbombcyclopsragnarokdoomstorm like the US NE got last week?

@  Nevermore : (19 January 2018 - 11:40 AM)

Netherlands? We got one hell of a storm here in Germany the other day too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 January 2018 - 01:59 AM)

When that happens in Cocoa Beach there's always someone getting out their surfboard.

@  CORVUS : (19 January 2018 - 12:04 AM)

Damn!

@  Telly : (18 January 2018 - 10:29 PM)

holy hug

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 January 2018 - 06:27 PM)

Goddamn look what happened to the Dutch this week.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 January 2018 - 06:27 PM)

https://twitter.com/dwnews/status/954066379610628097

@  Locoman : (18 January 2018 - 03:43 PM)

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand brick and mortar.

@  siccoyote : (18 January 2018 - 04:31 AM)

Who sings the first part of the GIJoe The Movie theme song? (Cobra) Sounds so familiar.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 January 2018 - 10:46 PM)

Also true.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 January 2018 - 10:40 PM)

I hate brick and mortar stores around here.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 January 2018 - 10:38 PM)

But I like the feel of the brick and mortar search a bit more. And I can see inside packages at brick and mortar. True, Amazon has a good return policy, but I like buying once and settling.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 January 2018 - 10:37 PM)

I suppose I could save more if I bought more often from Amazon.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 10:36 PM)

Closest I got to "free" was 30% off warpath, which just about lined him up to the canadian price had he ever shown up around me. The pile of loot saved me a pile, but it was still pricy.

@  Shrug : (17 January 2018 - 09:34 PM)

Yeah, I purposefully waited on them because I knew they'd be perfect "add onto orders to get free shipping" fodder. Already gotten two that way. Technically "free" and I barely had to wait.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 January 2018 - 09:21 PM)

That's how I feel about Prime Masters. Getting back into collecting last year taught me to be patient, which grants rewards most of the time.

@  Shrug : (17 January 2018 - 09:18 PM)

I want Starscream so hard after seeing him in person, but since he's the one being left behind by every other collector in my area, I feel like I can wait for a sale.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 09:09 PM)

I mean: I maybe woulda jumped on starscream if I found a sale or something, but it wasn't a priority.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 09:08 PM)

I only wanted the dinobots (cause... volcanicus.) but got saddled with three I didn't want due to the bundling. I'd still be waiting to order if I had waited on individual figures.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 January 2018 - 08:27 PM)

Ahh.. I just ordered the whole case cause I wanted too. :)

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 06:49 PM)

Mostly PotP dinobots. Plus some stuff I couldn't opt out of to get those dinobots. And CW warpath... cause he was on sale.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 January 2018 - 04:54 PM)

What ya getting?

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 04:38 PM)

Yay! My package from BBTS is in canada! I might even get it this week!

@  Benbot : (17 January 2018 - 02:04 PM)

I need a laptop more than a new desktop

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 January 2018 - 01:18 PM)

Buying a pre-built computer you should be okay.. It's just the individual parts that jumped huge in price.

@  Paladin : (17 January 2018 - 01:14 PM)

well all the idiots who invested in "bitcoin" will be selling theirs en masse to make ends meet so you might be able to find something cheap if you watch auctions.

@  Benbot : (17 January 2018 - 12:59 PM)

Is now a good time to buy a computer? Or should I wait?


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#1 ▲ndrusi

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:09 AM

For reasons I'd rather not get into, I don't currently have a valid driver's license. I have an expired learner's permit (which is sufficient ID for most purposes) and a Temporary Driving Certificate which together allow me to drive, and I'm supposed to receive my card "soon." However, I have a plane trip also coming up "soon" and I cannot assume it'll get here in time. My permit is expired by too long to be used as an ID for flying, and the temporary certificate doesn't have a photo for some reason so it's no good either.

So now I have to figure out some alternative form of ID. The person whose fault it is that I'm in this situation in the first place is confident that this sort of thing happens all the time and surely there are ways around it. The TSA website is almost hilariously nonspecific about this sort of situation:

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We understand passengers occasionally arrive at the airport without an ID, due to lost items or inadvertently leaving them at home. Not having an ID, does not necessarily mean a passenger won?t be allowed to fly. If passengers are willing to provide additional information, we have other means of substantiating someone?s identity, like using publicly available databases.

Passengers who are cleared through this process may be subject to additional screening. Passengers whose identity cannot be verified by TSA may not be allowed to enter the screening checkpoint or onto an airplane.


Does anyone know what I'm actually in for, and/or what sort of things I should be looking into to try to handle this?

(Yes, I know I shouldn't have left this until the last minute. I didn't want to. Long story that, again, I'd rather not get into.)

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:13 AM

Do you have a birth certificate? As a Canadian if I get in a plane I'm almost always going to the states, so I need a passport. If you got yourself a passport, even if you're not traveling internationally, that would work.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:19 AM

I'm pretty sure a passport would actually take longer to get.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:28 AM

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I'm pretty sure a passport would actually take longer to get.

You can expedite a passport and get it same day but you have to make an appointment, show necessity and pay a couple hundred bucks (it also helps to have a passport office in you town or nearby).

Barring that, I'd say a birth certificate plus your expired ids with pictures and just be prepared for "enhanced" screening.
 
 
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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:30 AM

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Seriously, get a government ID with a picture on it. They have them other than Driver's licenses.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:37 AM

Expedited passport is really going to be your best bet. You can expect to pay through the nose for it.

Barring that, I would recommend arriving about half an hour (or a full hour, depending on the size of the airport) earlier than you originally planned. If possible, bring something (temp driving certificate perhaps? If not, a utility bill) that ties your name to your current address. Be prepared to wait a lot as folks discuss the matter with their supervisors, or search through those databases. Be patient, and cooperate fully.
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#7 ▲ndrusi

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:57 AM

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Seriously, get a government ID with a picture on it. They have them other than Driver's licenses.

Around here those also come from the DMV office, and as such I'd still have to wait for them to mail it to me. NC DMV offices don't have their own card printers anymore apparently.

The flight isn't international, so I don't know whether I'd be able to manage "necessity" for an expedited passport. I'll definitely look into that, though.

The temporary driving certificate has everything on it that a real license has except for the photo, so there is that. I'm also employed by a state university and have an ID card from there--it wouldn't be valid ID on its own, I don't think, but it couldn't hurt.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 26 May 2011 - 10:08 AM

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I'm also employed by a state university and have an ID card from there--it wouldn't be valid ID on its own, I don't think, but it couldn't hurt.


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Posted 26 May 2011 - 10:19 AM

You just need two forms of ID, one with a picture of you on it.

Last November, I actually made it to airport security and found out at the last second realized I had left my driver's license at home. They let me through, I dug around in my wallet and found my work badge with my photo, and also my social security card. No problem.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 10:33 AM

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 11:07 AM

I think you should get your hands on some sort of current ID. Maybe something like a Nondriver ID card. They expire, like a license - but are pretty much only for writing checks or taking flights. They're also far easier to get, than a Passport.

So unless your flight is taking you outside the US, it should be all you need.

I happen to know, as I can't drive (for health related reasons) & its all I need for a flight. I think I even had to renew mine, about 1 week prior to the flight. Easy to pick up at the DMV - and at least for me, it was just a walk-in visit (my ID had expired just that year, and didn't notice until shortly before the flight).

Why put yourself into a potential fix at the airport? Just get something like this & at least you should be covered.

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(Also, I vaguely recall that there's a posted message stating that if you don't have a current ID w/ photo, you won't be allowed to board a plane. At all.)

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 11:34 AM

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I think you should get your hands on some sort of current ID. Maybe something like a Nondriver ID card. They expire, like a license - but are pretty much only for writing checks or taking flights. They're also far easier to get, than a Passport.

So unless your flight is taking you outside the US, it should be all you need.

I happen to know, as I can't drive (for health related reasons) & its all I need for a flight. I think I even had to renew mine, about 1 week prior to the flight. Easy to pick up at the DMV - and at least for me, it was just a walk-in visit (my ID had expired just that year, and didn't notice until shortly before the flight).

Why put yourself into a potential fix at the airport? Just get something like this & at least you should be covered.

Kevin
(Also, I vaguely recall that there's a posted message stating that if you don't have a current ID w/ photo, you won't be allowed to board a plane. At all.)

The problem with this suggestion is that, as I mentioned a few posts ago, North Carolina DMV offices don't distribute ID cards (driver or otherwise) anymore, instead mailing them out from a centralized location in Raleigh. If I asked for a non-driver ID card now, there's absolutely no reason it would arrive any sooner than the new learner's permit I'm already waiting on.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 11:48 AM

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The problem with this suggestion is that, as I mentioned a few posts ago, North Carolina DMV offices don't distribute ID cards (driver or otherwise) anymore, instead mailing them out from a centralized location in Raleigh. If I asked for a non-driver ID card now, there's absolutely no reason it would arrive any sooner than the new learner's permit I'm already waiting on.


Sorry, did not read every post. Still, I'd recommend that you try & get the ball rolling, even if they can't help you. Maybe they'd be able to expidite the process or offer a temporary card. (And you could always luck out & get your new ID just before your flight.)

And lets just say they let you board in NC. Remember you need an ID to come back, too. Your gamble isn't that they'll pass you once, but twice. Worth doing all you can to avoid it.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 12:47 PM

I had to fly from Indy to Altanta once, and didn't realize until I got to the security checkpoint that my driver's license had expired. I was asked for an alternate form of ID, and the screener accepted my Social Security card. I had to go through the extra screening, though. Of course, this was before they started the current "enhanced" screenings, so I don't know if if would fly now.
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Posted 26 May 2011 - 02:20 PM

I found out the hard way that my license had expired last time we flew to Pasadena for Botcon, but I don't remember it being a big deal even though I was momentarily freaking out that it would be when the check-in guy pointed it out. I had been driving around with an expired license for a little over a month since my birthday is in late April.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 02:37 PM

I bet your old learner's permit will be fine. It's still a photo ID.

The last time I flew, I got all the way to the gate before I realized I had passed through two security checkpoints holding a second copy of my wife's boarding pass instead of my own. And they'd checked my ID with the pen and everything. And we don't even have the same last name.

So allow a bit of extra time just in case, but bring your old ID and don't lose sleep over it. The TSA people don't actually care about these things.

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 11:30 AM

Please read the third and fourth posts in this thread.
 
 
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Posted 28 May 2011 - 11:33 AM

An expired driver's license should still be a valid form of ID. All the fact that it's expired means is that you can't legally drive with it anymore. It still contains your personal information...

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 11:43 AM

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Please read the third and fourth posts in this thread.

That would require it to not be a bot.

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 12:11 PM

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An expired driver's license should still be a valid form of ID. All the fact that it's expired means is that you can't legally drive with it anymore. It still contains your personal information...


That's not quite true.

At work, we cannot take an expired ID for check cashing, nor will Western Union allow us to use it for money transfers or receiving.

Mind you, this isn't the airport, but the point is that a number of places will cease accepting it for various things once it hits the expiration. (If they're doing what they're supposed to be doing, that is.)
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