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@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:15 AM)

I really enjoy the creative sub forums of TFW, though, like their kitbash and fan art forums. The creative forums have lots of talented, friendly people and is an active, supportive community.

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:13 AM)

Gotta agree with Evac... TFW has a lot of cool, talented people, but they're overwhelmingly outnumbered by unbearable neckbeards

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc


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#1 Sean Whitmore

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 06:05 PM

Behold!

http://www.botcon.co...c11schedule.cfm

I think I actually envy the out-of-towners staying in hotels. On Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday, it looks like I'll have to drive home and come back to get to everything (20-30 minutes each way, given traffic).

Edited by Sean Whitmore, 19 May 2011 - 06:06 PM.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 06:33 PM

QUOTE(Sean Whitmore @ May 19 2011, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Behold!

http://www.botcon.co...c11schedule.cfm

I think I actually envy the out-of-towners staying in hotels. On Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday, it looks like I'll have to drive home and come back to get to everything (20-30 minutes each way, given traffic).


I think I understand. Although I don't envy them enough to pay all that extra hotel money (when I do have the option of going to my own home each night), there's something to be said for having a place to crash on-site mid-day. It's harder to just leave and come back if you have to go all the way home to do so.

Still, I can't complain. I'm getting by a lot cheaper than most folks.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 07:38 PM

Man that schedule is HOT!

Awesome about the script readings, and the fact that they're getting people from Transformers Prime to do a script reading too! I wonder who will be there?

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 08:06 PM


Where's MSTF?


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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:02 PM

I'm confused by all the different package pick up listings. If that for the boxsets, or what? I'm attending the Wednesday customizing class, does that mean the box sets will be up for those attending?

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE(C16 @ May 19 2011, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm confused by all the different package pick up listings. If that for the boxsets, or what? I'm attending the Wednesday customizing class, does that mean the box sets will be up for those attending?


That's how it sounds to me.
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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:15 PM

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ May 19 2011, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where's MSTF?

They didn't have it last year, looks like it's not coming back.

QUOTE(C16 @ May 19 2011, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm confused by all the different package pick up listings. If that for the boxsets, or what? I'm attending the Wednesday customizing class, does that mean the box sets will be up for those attending?

You should be able to pick it up Wednesday night.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:16 PM

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ May 19 2011, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where's MSTF?

They don't do it every year. Although I do note sadly that they seem to pick the Pasadena BotCons not to do it at, I can certainly understand that it's a struggle to keep fresh after doing it so often.

Edited by G.B.Blackrock, 19 May 2011 - 09:16 PM.


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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:23 PM

Well, we've written an MSTF, so I hope that was just an omission.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 10:05 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ May 19 2011, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, we've written an MSTF, so I hope that was just an omission.


How does one get in on that? Writing one, not attending.
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Posted 19 May 2011 - 10:52 PM

Be really good at procrastination, mostly.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 10:58 PM

Pfft, easy. If I didn't have that quality nailed, my web comic would update more than once a week.
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Posted 20 May 2011 - 02:33 PM

The Panels link has been updated with a brief summary of each of the panels:

http://www.botcon.co.../bc11panels.cfm

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 11:49 AM

No space in the schedule for MSTF this year on the days the panel room is reserved for, which was the situation last year. There's a buttload of stuff going on, and, well, priorities.


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Posted 23 May 2011 - 12:03 PM

QUOTE(M Sipher @ May 23 2011, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No space in the schedule for MSTF this year on the days the panel room is reserved for, which was the situation last year. There's a buttload of stuff going on, and, well, priorities.


M "Freshness Was Never A Concern... Otherwise We Wouldn't Use G1! Ba-Boom!" Sipher

Honestly, I'd almost rather it WAS due to you guys needing a break (more the point of my comment I think you're referencing re: "freshness"), especially since "too much going on" was the excuse made the last time it was in Pasadena. However legitimate that excuse is. We're kinda getting left out.

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#16 M Sipher

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 12:10 PM

.... nnnno, we did one in Pasadena, 2009. It was 2010 in Florida that the schedule didn't have room.


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Posted 23 May 2011 - 12:14 PM

QUOTE(M Sipher @ May 23 2011, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
.... nnnno, we did one in Pasadena, 2009. It was 2010 in Florida that the schedule didn't have room.


M "Location Has Nothing To Do With It" Sipher

There was? I just missed it? (I wasn't at BotCon 2010 at all, so it's not about my being confused about which convention) If so, then I simply extend my apologies. I don't know how that happened, though....

(to be clear, I wasn't making any accusations that anyone was purposely avoiding Pasadena. Just pointing out what I thought was an unfortunate coincidence.)

Edited by G.B.Blackrock, 23 May 2011 - 12:16 PM.


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Posted 23 May 2011 - 05:07 PM

MSTF is on strike until the BotCon mugger is brought to justice.

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:24 PM

I'm not going this year, so it doesn't affect me directly. But I'm still kinda bummed by this.

I'll be honest, the MST3K is a goofy fan-thing, yes, but its also been one of the most fun events at any of the Botcons I've been to. It's one of the more grassroots, fan based, fan-run feeling convention bits, yet still something non hardcore fans can really enjoy. It was EASILY the most fun panel for my wife when she came. She's not a big TF fan, but she really laughed and enjoyed the MST as much as I did.

Frankly MST3K IS a Botcon priority to me. It's #2 right behind the Hasbro preview panels for "must attend"

Even though I won't be there either way, I'm really very sorry to hear about it taking a backseat.


ZacWilliam, feels a little like it's being treated like an unwanted red-headed stepchild by the new, more "professional/hollywood" Con when it was my "favorite son" of the smaller older geeky Botcon's past

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 09:26 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ May 23 2011, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ZacWilliam, feels a little like it's being treated like an unwanted red-headed stepchild by the new, more "professional/hollywood" Con when it was my "favorite son" of the smaller older geeky Botcon's past

I can pretty definitively say that this is not true. The first part, I mean.

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Edited by M Sipher, 23 May 2011 - 09:35 PM.

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