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@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

On the plus side, tho, TFW has "appreciation threads" for practically everything, even stuff like Kre-O and PCC. And their toy database is quite handy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

I've been happily posting on TFW for years. Then, after being *here* for a few months, I look back and wonder how the hell I even bothered with it. I mean, my ignore list had hundreds of people on it. Literally HUNDREDS of ignored people. I even showed off said gargantuan list once (with a small thumbnail that you couldn't read any of the names on, mind you). That... that really should have been a warning sign, I suppose...

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Thanks, I enjoyed reading the nerdrage. I should hang out over there more often.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:07 PM)

I mean, Reveal Your Shield. That gets complained about too.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:04 PM)

One of the reveal the shield news threads at TFW has movie fans and G1 fans arguing over who has it worse

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

You got me awfully curious. What thread ware we talking about?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.


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#1 Sean Whitmore

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 06:05 PM

Behold!

http://www.botcon.co...c11schedule.cfm

I think I actually envy the out-of-towners staying in hotels. On Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday, it looks like I'll have to drive home and come back to get to everything (20-30 minutes each way, given traffic).

Edited by Sean Whitmore, 19 May 2011 - 06:06 PM.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 06:33 PM

QUOTE(Sean Whitmore @ May 19 2011, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Behold!

http://www.botcon.co...c11schedule.cfm

I think I actually envy the out-of-towners staying in hotels. On Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday, it looks like I'll have to drive home and come back to get to everything (20-30 minutes each way, given traffic).


I think I understand. Although I don't envy them enough to pay all that extra hotel money (when I do have the option of going to my own home each night), there's something to be said for having a place to crash on-site mid-day. It's harder to just leave and come back if you have to go all the way home to do so.

Still, I can't complain. I'm getting by a lot cheaper than most folks.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 07:38 PM

Man that schedule is HOT!

Awesome about the script readings, and the fact that they're getting people from Transformers Prime to do a script reading too! I wonder who will be there?

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 08:06 PM


Where's MSTF?


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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:02 PM

I'm confused by all the different package pick up listings. If that for the boxsets, or what? I'm attending the Wednesday customizing class, does that mean the box sets will be up for those attending?

#6 Sean Whitmore

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE(C16 @ May 19 2011, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm confused by all the different package pick up listings. If that for the boxsets, or what? I'm attending the Wednesday customizing class, does that mean the box sets will be up for those attending?


That's how it sounds to me.
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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:15 PM

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ May 19 2011, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where's MSTF?

They didn't have it last year, looks like it's not coming back.

QUOTE(C16 @ May 19 2011, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm confused by all the different package pick up listings. If that for the boxsets, or what? I'm attending the Wednesday customizing class, does that mean the box sets will be up for those attending?

You should be able to pick it up Wednesday night.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:16 PM

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ May 19 2011, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where's MSTF?

They don't do it every year. Although I do note sadly that they seem to pick the Pasadena BotCons not to do it at, I can certainly understand that it's a struggle to keep fresh after doing it so often.

Edited by G.B.Blackrock, 19 May 2011 - 09:16 PM.


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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:23 PM

Well, we've written an MSTF, so I hope that was just an omission.

#10 Sean Whitmore

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 10:05 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ May 19 2011, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, we've written an MSTF, so I hope that was just an omission.


How does one get in on that? Writing one, not attending.
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#11 Walky

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 10:52 PM

Be really good at procrastination, mostly.

#12 Sean Whitmore

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 10:58 PM

Pfft, easy. If I didn't have that quality nailed, my web comic would update more than once a week.
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Posted 20 May 2011 - 02:33 PM

The Panels link has been updated with a brief summary of each of the panels:

http://www.botcon.co.../bc11panels.cfm

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 11:49 AM

No space in the schedule for MSTF this year on the days the panel room is reserved for, which was the situation last year. There's a buttload of stuff going on, and, well, priorities.


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Posted 23 May 2011 - 12:03 PM

QUOTE(M Sipher @ May 23 2011, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No space in the schedule for MSTF this year on the days the panel room is reserved for, which was the situation last year. There's a buttload of stuff going on, and, well, priorities.


M "Freshness Was Never A Concern... Otherwise We Wouldn't Use G1! Ba-Boom!" Sipher

Honestly, I'd almost rather it WAS due to you guys needing a break (more the point of my comment I think you're referencing re: "freshness"), especially since "too much going on" was the excuse made the last time it was in Pasadena. However legitimate that excuse is. We're kinda getting left out.

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#16 M Sipher

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 12:10 PM

.... nnnno, we did one in Pasadena, 2009. It was 2010 in Florida that the schedule didn't have room.


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Posted 23 May 2011 - 12:14 PM

QUOTE(M Sipher @ May 23 2011, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
.... nnnno, we did one in Pasadena, 2009. It was 2010 in Florida that the schedule didn't have room.


M "Location Has Nothing To Do With It" Sipher

There was? I just missed it? (I wasn't at BotCon 2010 at all, so it's not about my being confused about which convention) If so, then I simply extend my apologies. I don't know how that happened, though....

(to be clear, I wasn't making any accusations that anyone was purposely avoiding Pasadena. Just pointing out what I thought was an unfortunate coincidence.)

Edited by G.B.Blackrock, 23 May 2011 - 12:16 PM.


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Posted 23 May 2011 - 05:07 PM

MSTF is on strike until the BotCon mugger is brought to justice.

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:24 PM

I'm not going this year, so it doesn't affect me directly. But I'm still kinda bummed by this.

I'll be honest, the MST3K is a goofy fan-thing, yes, but its also been one of the most fun events at any of the Botcons I've been to. It's one of the more grassroots, fan based, fan-run feeling convention bits, yet still something non hardcore fans can really enjoy. It was EASILY the most fun panel for my wife when she came. She's not a big TF fan, but she really laughed and enjoyed the MST as much as I did.

Frankly MST3K IS a Botcon priority to me. It's #2 right behind the Hasbro preview panels for "must attend"

Even though I won't be there either way, I'm really very sorry to hear about it taking a backseat.


ZacWilliam, feels a little like it's being treated like an unwanted red-headed stepchild by the new, more "professional/hollywood" Con when it was my "favorite son" of the smaller older geeky Botcon's past

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 09:26 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ May 23 2011, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ZacWilliam, feels a little like it's being treated like an unwanted red-headed stepchild by the new, more "professional/hollywood" Con when it was my "favorite son" of the smaller older geeky Botcon's past

I can pretty definitively say that this is not true. The first part, I mean.

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Edited by M Sipher, 23 May 2011 - 09:35 PM.

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