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@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

On the plus side, tho, TFW has "appreciation threads" for practically everything, even stuff like Kre-O and PCC. And their toy database is quite handy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

I've been happily posting on TFW for years. Then, after being *here* for a few months, I look back and wonder how the hell I even bothered with it. I mean, my ignore list had hundreds of people on it. Literally HUNDREDS of ignored people. I even showed off said gargantuan list once (with a small thumbnail that you couldn't read any of the names on, mind you). That... that really should have been a warning sign, I suppose...

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Thanks, I enjoyed reading the nerdrage. I should hang out over there more often.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:07 PM)

I mean, Reveal Your Shield. That gets complained about too.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:04 PM)

One of the reveal the shield news threads at TFW has movie fans and G1 fans arguing over who has it worse

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

You got me awfully curious. What thread ware we talking about?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.


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#1 Sprocket

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 04:29 PM

Hey all,

Botcon 2007 was my first and only con away from home because I could drive to it. But I really, really want to go to this year's Botcon. Thing is, even a month or two ago I never found a flight cheaper than 300 from JFK Airport to LAX. On top of that, it's half-an-hour to the convention center from the LAX.

For those that have been to Botcon before, how did you fly there, and how did you get to the convention center? The cheaper the answer the better, obviously.
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 04:34 PM

QUOTE(Sprocket @ Apr 28 2011, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey all,

Botcon 2007 was my first and only con away from home because I could drive to it. But I really, really want to go to this year's Botcon. Thing is, even a month or two ago I never found a flight cheaper than 300 from JFK Airport to LAX. On top of that, it's half-an-hour to the convention center from the LAX.

For those that have been to Botcon before, how did you fly there, and how did you get to the convention center? The cheaper the answer the better, obviously.


Since I live here, my flight information is a bit... inverted, but generally, LAX is the cheapest airport by far, although it can be a bit of a zoo compared to others (Burbank is the other one close to Pasadena, although Ontario isn't prohibitive). Most people use "SuperShuttle" to get here from the airport.

If you haven't already, I invite you to check out the "Survival Guide" I put up on my blog some time ago. I try to cover most of the basic travel information, as well as some local places of interest. You'll also see some links there that you might find helpful if you're looking to save money.

Best wishes!

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 03:19 PM

300 is about the right price - I don't think holding out for much cheaper than that is going to work out well. I'd be happy to be wrong here, but everything I was looking at was around the same price.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 01:18 AM

Has there been any word yet about a discount rate for shuttle service from the airport to the hotels? Last time it was from Prime Shuttle service. Are they doing it again, or is there another service?

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 10:23 AM

QUOTE(TrnsfrmGod @ Apr 29 2011, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has there been any word yet about a discount rate for shuttle service from the airport to the hotels? Last time it was from Prime Shuttle service. Are they doing it again, or is there another service?

Check page 3 of the BotCon brochure (just one of many questions answered on the Survival Guide).

To be a little less snarky and more helpful than even that is, it's under "Hotel Accommodations"

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 07:25 PM

Hey,
check out page 3 of my webpage:

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3897880/

I am offering shuttle service and tours.

Thanks



QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Apr 30 2011, 08:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(TrnsfrmGod @ Apr 29 2011, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has there been any word yet about a discount rate for shuttle service from the airport to the hotels? Last time it was from Prime Shuttle service. Are they doing it again, or is there another service?

Check page 3 of the BotCon brochure (just one of many questions answered on the Survival Guide).

To be a little less snarky and more helpful than even that is, it's under "Hotel Accommodations"



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Posted 30 April 2011 - 11:35 PM

QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Apr 30 2011, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(TrnsfrmGod @ Apr 29 2011, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has there been any word yet about a discount rate for shuttle service from the airport to the hotels? Last time it was from Prime Shuttle service. Are they doing it again, or is there another service?

Check page 3 of the BotCon brochure (just one of many questions answered on the Survival Guide).

To be a little less snarky and more helpful than even that is, it's under "Hotel Accommodations"



QUOTE(G1 Ratchet @ Apr 30 2011, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey,
check out page 3 of my webpage:

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3897880/

I am offering shuttle service and tours.

Thanks



QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Apr 30 2011, 08:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(TrnsfrmGod @ Apr 29 2011, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has there been any word yet about a discount rate for shuttle service from the airport to the hotels? Last time it was from Prime Shuttle service. Are they doing it again, or is there another service?

Check page 3 of the BotCon brochure (just one of many questions answered on the Survival Guide).

To be a little less snarky and more helpful than even that is, it's under "Hotel Accommodations"



Somehow, I recall the deal FP had with with Prime Time being more publicized last time around. I thought it was its own big announcement, or at least something beyond just a quick blurb in the brochure

Thank you, to both of you.

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 01:54 AM

Getting between $300 and $400 was the CHEAPER of prices during my searching months ago for ATL to LAX.

I do need to remember to book my shuttle to the airport, though...

That'd be a lonnnnnnnnnng walk.
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Posted 02 May 2011 - 10:41 PM

I don't know what pricetag you put on your time and energy, but if you REALLY want the cheapest,
the bus and rail is $1.50, and will take you 1.5 to 2 hours to get there.
It will save you ~$20 each way, from the looks of the shuttle bus service. (I guess if you had 5 people in a shuttle bus it would only be ~$13.50 more than public transit...) the shuttle bus website is here: www.supershuttle.com with 15% off when you reserve in advance. http://www.metro.net/ for the public transit website.
Looks like the buses are 439('b' or not 'b') and 42 to UNION STATION. Then Metro Gold Line to DEL MAR STATION. (Huh, looks like they cut the line off. It used to go past there.)

Also, add a potential 30 minutes to your bus time at the airport if your terminal is on the far end (north end leaving the airport for the hotel, south end arriving at airport from hotel). It takes that long to get through with all the traffic and stopping at all the terminals to let other people off. (I missed my flight.)
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I guess you want the "C" bus. Green bus sign.

It's not far hoofing it from the public rail terminal to the main hotel. It's like 3 blocks. (0.3 miles, 8 minutes)
As long as you're only carrying one large box on wheels it should be manageable. I always bring a fold-up dolly.
I guess it'll be farther if you're at one of the other hotels though.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 06:38 PM

Yeah, as much as I want to save money, I think I'm going to go with a Shuttle service. I just hope the Club has linked up with one for the convention so people going can get a group discount.

Now if only I could find a roommate or two or three to share the hotel cost with. How do people who don't have a circle of convention friends do it?
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Posted 20 May 2011 - 02:46 AM

It looks like Prime Time Shuttle is a bit cheaper than Super Shuttle, even after the discount. It's especially cheaper for a private car (what I'll be using since I'll be tired from a flight from Japan and will want to get to the hotel ASAP), and the price includes gratuity even.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 08:44 AM

QUOTE(Buster Darkwings @ May 20 2011, 12:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It looks like Prime Time Shuttle is a bit cheaper than Super Shuttle, even after the discount. It's especially cheaper for a private car (what I'll be using since I'll be tired from a flight from Japan and will want to get to the hotel ASAP), and the price includes gratuity even.

I see it hasn't been mentioned here (I've posted it on the Survival Guide more recently), but there's also a service called Shuttle2LAX that offers a flat $20 from LAX to anywhere (plus $11 for each additional person). Also cheaper than SuperShuttle, even after the discount.

Edited by G.B.Blackrock, 20 May 2011 - 08:45 AM.


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Posted 30 May 2011 - 01:05 PM

I didn't see PTS as being cheaper than SS--I got $37.20 one-way from PTS, $34 from SS with the group rate.

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 04:43 PM

QUOTE(Defensis Prime @ May 30 2011, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didn't see PTS as being cheaper than SS--I got $37.20 one-way from PTS, $34 from SS with the group rate.

(<shrug>)
Prime Time Shuttle can be cheaper than Super Shuttle, but I don't pretend to know the ins-and-outs of that (is it based on time of reservation, destination, what?), nor if any such situations exist relevant to BotCon. I am pretty sure Shuttle2LAX beats both prices, though.

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 04:57 PM

Trying out Shuttle2LAX - assuming it works out, thanks for the tip! They put us on Prime Time Shuttle for $31 each way for my wife and me together ($20 for one person, $11 for the second). They did, however, estimate almost two hours' travel time from the airport to the Pasadena Sheraton. I'm really hoping that's a giant exaggeration to prevent lateness, as opposed to the actual ETA.
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Posted 30 May 2011 - 07:05 PM

QUOTE(Defensis Prime @ May 31 2011, 03:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didn't see PTS as being cheaper than SS--I got $37.20 one-way from PTS, $34 from SS with the group rate.

(<shrug>)


Prime Time say they give you a 7% discount for booking shared ride vans online, but the prices they show you might already reflect that.