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@  unitremover : (22 February 2017 - 09:36 PM)

I haven't been up there in a while but one of the Walmarts around here still has AOE deluxes out. Some of the CVSs do too.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 February 2017 - 09:34 PM)

It's been the same thing in local stores for ages up here.

@  BlackMax : (22 February 2017 - 09:33 PM)

One near me is the same - I swear they have over forty Deluxes there, all from many months ago.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 07:43 PM)

my walmart finally filled those empty tr pegs. and of course its a mix of waves one and 2 (wave 1.5?)

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:11 PM)

Got Highbrow, Skullcrusher, Scourge, and Chromedome for $5 a piece

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:10 PM)

My Walmart had a Generations Rattrap hanging for the past 2 and a half years, and in trying to clearance it, inadvertently marked down the entire Generations Deluxe assortment.

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:09 PM)

A shelf warmer's ultimate revenge: being around long enough that in trying to clearance it...the store marks down the entire SKU!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:59 AM)

Eh, he would've gotten beaten up if the government sent just about anyone.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:56 AM)

Regardless, literally everything I've ever seen (and a lot on tfwiki) attributes Megatron's slide into violence to Whirl beating him up while in custody. Maybe not like flicking a switch but Megatron's line "You made me. You taught me words were weightless without force" kinda spells it out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:38 AM)

I'm not sure if there even was a specific turning point, but he didn't seem kill happy yet when he was with Terminus, and that was after Whirl beating him up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:24 AM)

It was also before any sort of uprising or him actually doing much of anything.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:20 AM)

I mean, the whole thing didn't start as "the great war". It was an uprising that eventually morphed into a the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:17 AM)

Yeah, of course it's before the war, Whirl beating Megatron while he was in custody was the tipping point that made Megatron turn violent.

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:08 AM)

again

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:04 AM)

Forgot this wasn't a search bar

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:03 AM)

hascon

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 05:12 AM)

But the thing with Whirl was before he started the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 03:28 AM)

Like so many awful things in that universe, it's basically Whirl's fault.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 12:51 AM)

for about 10 minutes. then he got all kill happy

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 February 2017 - 10:27 PM)

Wouldn't IDW Megatron kind of count since his main reason for instigating the Great War was to overthrow the Functionist social order?

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:05 PM)

(I haven't read IDW at all please don't sue me)

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:04 PM)

Tyrest? He was chief justice, even :p

@  Bass X0 : (21 February 2017 - 03:24 PM)

I kinda want an Autobot to have the function of "Social Justice Warrior".

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 12:20 PM)

Even we have limits.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 12:18 PM)

Good. But let's agree not to do one for Tecumseh.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 12:12 PM)

Shitting Bull.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 11:54 AM)

or spending a lot of time taking a Squatto?

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 11:49 AM)

nice

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 11:42 AM)

Just hope it's clean or you'll be meeting Pukeahontas.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 10:39 AM)

Snackajawea - REAL Native American food prepackaged for your snacking pleasure!

@  Pennpenn : (19 February 2017 - 04:03 AM)

Oh wait, figured it out. Doi...

@  Pennpenn : (19 February 2017 - 04:02 AM)

I'm kinda disappointed how they messed up Legion Bisk's hands so that his front wheels can't roll.

@  RichardT1977 : (19 February 2017 - 12:45 AM)

One of the Walmarts near me has some pegs full of Wave 1 TR deluxes.

@  Paladin : (18 February 2017 - 09:39 PM)

https://twitter.com/autobase_aichi/status/833142409005391872 ....is that an MP DINOBOT teaser?!?!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 09:35 PM)

Yeah, never seen a Titans Return Hot Rod

@  LBD "Nyt... : (18 February 2017 - 08:58 PM)

Or Hot Rod. D=

@  LBD "Nyt... : (18 February 2017 - 08:58 PM)

Wow, seriously? I don't think I've even seen him here. =(

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 07:50 PM)

Yeah Mindwipe shelfwarmed like crazy in Vancouver.

@  Steevy Maximus : (18 February 2017 - 07:36 PM)

My Walmart still has a Rattrap floating around. My frustration is I've seen Hot Rod and Doublecross, but still haven't seen a Highbrow

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 07:02 PM)

I still haven't seen any Wave 3 Deluxes aside from the Triggerhappy I got off eBay.

@  Pennpenn : (18 February 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Fairly sure the Target near my work still has a CW Wheeljack hanging around the Wave 3 TR deluxes. Just wish we'd gotten Wave 2 deluxes...

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 06:53 PM)

CW deluxes from the later waves clogged the shelves real bad.

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 06:52 PM)

Correction: TR deluxes don't shelfwarm.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 06:47 PM)

Generations deluxes don't shelfwarm.

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 06:30 PM)

Hm, interesting. Some of the pegs seem to have the correct names when they've been shelfwarming for a while. So like Mindwipe would be on a peg labelled MINDWIPE next to WOLFWIRE, etc.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2017 - 06:30 PM)

It would make less sense to track individual figures when they're ordered by the assortment anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 03:02 PM)

Nope. walmart tends to scan the first UPC of the assortment, then use it for the entire assortment. Actually tracking data makes to much sense.

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 02:37 PM)

So hey I bought Triggerhappy from Walmart a few days ago and just notice the receipt said TRIGGERHAPPY on it. Not the assortment name or whatever. Are they using this info to better track character sales or something?

@  unluckiness : (18 February 2017 - 07:13 AM)

I think there was a premonition panel in the Devil's Due TF vs JOEs

@  Bass X0 : (18 February 2017 - 05:28 AM)

When an app asks me to give a review or a rating, I decline, but I always look at other people's reviews before I get an app.


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#1 Kalidor

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:11 PM

So this story struck me as oddball, even coming from China. Apparently, the ministries have decided that no stories depicting "fantasy, time-travel, random compilations of mythical stories, bizarre plots, absurd techniques, even propagating feudal superstitions, fatalism and reincarnation, ambiguous moral lessons, and a lack of positive thinking."

Now, if I'm not mistaken.. that's pretty much everything that's on TV today, to some degree. But beyond the scope of the ban, I'm not sure what China feels it will be getting out of keeping that stuff off TV other than the simple fact that every aspect that is covered in their ban involves the imagination.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:15 PM

Did the ending of Lost really tick them off that badly?
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:18 PM

Probably one of those "imagining better societies implies this one isn't perfect" things.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:30 PM

Good on China for reminding us every now and then they're a brutal, authoritarian dictatorship.
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:32 PM

Can't help but wonder if something like this could affect future product and media here: toys, TV shows, books, movies, what have you. China's a substantial market these days after all, and plenty of large businesses have cow-towed to their demands in the past.

(I know they're just guidelines, but still.)
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:36 PM

...Yeah I don't think China's stint as the world's largest economy will be all that long-lived. These sort of policies don't really promote the innovation needed to create new technologies and scientific understanding.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:52 PM

So are they going to ban any adaptations of "Journey to the West", one of their most revered literary fantasies?


That'd be... kind of an odd thing to ban; like Greece banning "The Illiad".

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 02:11 PM

All things considered... china can be a pretty odd place.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 02:12 PM

There are a lot of fiction with time travel. Seems like a waste to ban it all.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 02:41 PM

Things being as they are, I would think that sodomizing creativity and imagination would be the least of their priorities.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 08:34 PM

So what, they tried and failed to make their own clear rip off Doctor Who and decied they should just outright ban it?

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 08:53 PM

Wow, so, in essence they've decided to ban science fiction and fantasy as a whole. I can see why, though. It's been long known that you can deal with a subject in science fiction and fantasy, using disguised concepts that you couldn't otherwise deal with. Using an alien race as a metaphor for an over zealous, overbearing, authoritarian government, for example.

Time travel in particular gives you the chance to go back and reexamine, even change key events in history, allowing for speculation about the validity of past actions and their impact on the future.

It's a pretty clear message they're sending with this, and I hope the Chinese people fight back, one way or another.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:17 PM

And next week, China bans "Fun". One month later, those deplorable "Colours" shortly follow.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:47 PM

QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Apr 20 2011, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's a pretty clear message they're sending with this, and I hope the Chinese people fight back, one way or another.

I don't think the reasons are that complicated, I think this ban came about simply because sci-fi and fantasy go against communism's atheist principles.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:55 PM

I'm more curious as to how the Chinese Government plans to enforce this ban. I mean, if the whole point is to ban anything frivolous or fantastic...well...that's effectively everything ever.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:55 PM

QUOTE(Bug-Saw @ Apr 20 2011, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Apr 20 2011, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's a pretty clear message they're sending with this, and I hope the Chinese people fight back, one way or another.

I don't think the reasons are that complicated, I think this ban came about simply because sci-fi and fantasy go against communism's atheist principles.


What?

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 10:20 PM

QUOTE(TM2-Megatron @ Apr 20 2011, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What?

Soviet-style communism has always been about rejecting fantasy in all forms because fantasy is considered the opiate of the masses.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 10:24 PM

Hornet, I'm going to give you an option Be banned or use this as your avatar.



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Posted 20 April 2011 - 10:35 PM

QUOTE(Bug-Saw @ Apr 20 2011, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(TM2-Megatron @ Apr 20 2011, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What?

Soviet-style communism has always been about rejecting fantasy in all forms because fantasy is considered the opiate of the masses.

I thought it was religion that was supposed to be the opiate of the masses... in fact... yeah, that was it.

And I learned that from an episode of Agatha Christie's Poirot, no less.

In any case, that just strengthens what I was saying, which is that the fantasy environment is one of the few safe places for the oppressed to write about their oppressors. That is to say: The Chinese government wants to stifle any fiction that could plant non-conformist ideals into the minds of the masses.

Granted, there could be some other, less outright evil reason for banning two whole genres of fiction, but I really don't see it. Not when it's those particular genres.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 02:30 AM

QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Apr 21 2011, 04:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And I learned that from an episode of Agatha Christie's Poirot, no less.


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