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@  Telly : (21 January 2017 - 02:26 AM)

usually about halfway through, when all hope seems lost

@  Copper Bezel : (21 January 2017 - 02:01 AM)

I understand using Eva to fight monsters, but where does Bob come into it?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2017 - 01:29 AM)

Of course we'll need Bob EVAs to fight all these critters...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2017 - 01:21 AM)

Or Otachipotle.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 January 2017 - 11:03 PM)

Sorry Waspinator, but Sean Bean already reserved that one.

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2017 - 09:51 PM)

Isn't the answer "Pepperoni and Cheese"?

@  Waspinator : (20 January 2017 - 09:12 PM)

"Oh no, not again."

@  The Doctor Who : (20 January 2017 - 08:54 PM)

What do you want on your Tombstone?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (20 January 2017 - 08:52 PM)

I summon Mothrally's to champion the cause of a new/old line of discussion!

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2017 - 07:24 PM)

Fair enough, sorry. Although, I think as more people get upset you're going to see it leaking out more.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2017 - 06:25 PM)

Can the politics stay in P&R? I don't really need an emetic that badly.

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2017 - 05:37 PM)

All of Trump's base are stone cold morons, so there's that. Then again, a lot of people would argue that America has nevr been "great", or even when it is there's plenty to bring down it's score.

@  Vexwing : (20 January 2017 - 04:18 PM)

A lot of Trump's base would probably claim it stopped being great 8 years ago.

@  Locoman : (20 January 2017 - 03:44 PM)

And today is National Cheese Lover's Day, apparently, so perhaps we should make America grate again while we're at it

@  Bass X0 : (20 January 2017 - 03:43 PM)

How long has it not been great for?

@  Nevermore : (20 January 2017 - 02:34 PM)

Finally, America is great again.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 January 2017 - 12:03 PM)

Me too!

@  Arazyr : (20 January 2017 - 10:08 AM)

My daughters and I have been looking forward to that!

@  Benbot : (20 January 2017 - 09:44 AM)

Nevermind that. Today is a day to celebrate, because season 2 of Voltron is up on Netflix!

@  ShadowMan024 : (19 January 2017 - 06:51 PM)

Past 8 years? Try "past 241."

@  Xellos : (19 January 2017 - 06:44 PM)

So basically the same as the past 8 years. Guess that works too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 January 2017 - 06:25 PM)

We as a nation either drank too much or not enough. It's difficult to say, really.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 January 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Isn't America being crazy drunk how we got in this situation in the first place?

@  BlackMax : (19 January 2017 - 04:18 PM)

I plan on being very American about every single injustice our new leader perpetrates ("American" of course meaning "annoyed and loud").

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 January 2017 - 02:38 PM)

I plan to just stick my fingers in my ears and pretend I don't hear anything.

@  Bass X0 : (19 January 2017 - 02:26 PM)

I recommend America just get crazy drunk for the next four years. It's the only way you're going to get through them.

@  Paladin : (19 January 2017 - 08:34 AM)

everyone go vote for Guilermo Del Toro. We need a Hellboy 3 now more than ever. https://www.bleeding...nt-hellboy-iii/

@  BlackMax : (18 January 2017 - 10:49 PM)

Shrapnel is a Lucanus Elaphus.

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 January 2017 - 08:42 PM)

Nah, Taco Bell is more like Hedorah.

@  TriBlurr : (18 January 2017 - 08:28 PM)

Taco Mutos

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 January 2017 - 08:27 PM)

YAHMMMAAHOAAHOAAAUGH!

@  Locoman : (18 January 2017 - 08:22 PM)

HE LUNCH MENU COVER UP A BASIC INSECURITY

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 January 2017 - 08:22 PM)

IT'S THE MEATS FROM A PAIL

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 January 2017 - 08:21 PM)

HE JOCK IT MADE OF STEEL

@  Patchouli Kn... : (18 January 2017 - 08:20 PM)

What about Jet Jaguarby's?

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 January 2017 - 08:15 PM)

WENDERA IS REALLY NEAT, WENDERA SAYS WHERE'S THE BEEF, WE ALL EAT AT WENDERAAAAA'S!

@  Echowarrior : (18 January 2017 - 08:15 PM)

No love for Wendera, friend to all children?

@  BlackMax : (18 January 2017 - 07:57 PM)

In the Japanese release, McDonaldzilla wins.

@  TriBlurr : (18 January 2017 - 06:34 PM)

Burger King Kong is better anyway

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 January 2017 - 06:21 PM)

No way, man, I have standards.

@  RichardT1977 : (18 January 2017 - 04:12 PM)

Or do a crossover where you team up with McDonaldzilla.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 January 2017 - 04:10 PM)

Take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

@  BlackMax : (18 January 2017 - 04:10 PM)

That's why we're going to bomb the Breach.

@  Locoman : (18 January 2017 - 03:58 PM)

In the beginning new Subways were only built every twelve months. Then six, then three. Then every two weeks. In four days we could be seeing a new Subway every eight hours until they are coming every four minutes.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 January 2017 - 03:44 PM)

One bite is all it takes.

@  Locoman : (18 January 2017 - 03:44 PM)

I'm a little worried by how many Subways there are in my vincinity. Like, there are two within walking distance of my house, and I pass about four of them on my way to work

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 January 2017 - 03:41 PM)

I'd almost rather eat the corpse, but then again, it's probably been eating Subway too, with my luck.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 January 2017 - 02:33 PM)

I've found that subway's food tends to be...

@  Benbot : (18 January 2017 - 02:13 PM)

well that was disturbing

@  Robowang : (18 January 2017 - 09:21 AM)

Nice!


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Posted 24 March 2011 - 02:19 AM

So, the first issue is out and damn it, Hickman's one of the best writers out there today.

Last issue had Johnny's funeral and the return of Nathaniel Richards.

FF picks up a month afterward. Johnny left a will, asking Reed to continue with the Kids and have Peter replace him in the event of his death.

Pete arrives and we're shown Ben being remorseful, and the new costumes are a new type of unstable molecule. The black-on-white costumes we've seen so far and white-on-black for what I assume are for stealth missions.

Anyway, stuff happens. AIM breaks Wizard out, Nathaniel joins the supporting cast as someone to actually GROUND Reed from getting TOO fantastical in his ideas, and Valeria's deal with Doom is revealed: He's going to join the Future Foundation as well.

I'm loving all of these developments. It's fun, engaging and, yes, not meant for trades. It's meant to be read issue-to-issue and I miss books like these that plan things out years in advance.

I once thought a Giffen/DeMatteis/Maguire Fantastic Four run would be my dream run. Nope, THIS is my dream run. Hickman actually gets the characters, and for the first time in a long time, I'm excited about a comic book.

Question is, will Hickman ignore Doom being of normal intelligence now, or will the Foundation help him? Ulterior motives? Ben's new kick ass and ask questions later attitude? Sue just letting Reed do what he wants?

Mmm, good comics.

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 02:44 AM

It was absolutely awesome! Uncle Doom!!!! Doom was at the funeral, Sue and Reed saw him standing by respectfully. Val has been interacting with her Uncle now for some time so who knows if Doom has an ulterior motive, I kind of hope not.

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 05:06 AM

I can't see Hickman ignoring the fact that Doom is of reduced intelligence now, since he made a whole point of it in the issue where Val extended her offer to him, and has actively placed Kristoff on the Latverian throne because of it. It's the very reason Doom is HERE. Well, from Doom's perspective, I mean - the hints have been dropped thick and fast that Nathaniel knows that something terrible is going to happen in the future that only Doom will be able to deal with. This is what future-Franklin told Val when he came back in time very early on in Hickman's run, and why Val made the offer she did. There are plots and counterplots at work, to be sure.

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 06:14 AM

I used to hate the Fantastic Four until I started reading Hickman's run. Can't wait until I read this issue.

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 07:19 AM

So, wait... what happened to Doom's intelligence now?

Is a Doom without his intelligence truly Doom?

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 09:14 AM

QUOTE(LBD @ Mar 24 2011, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, wait... what happened to Doom's intelligence now?


He got brain-drained during "World War Hulks" when a machine he was using to try and sap intelligence from Marvel's superhero scientists backfired on him.

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Is a Doom without his intelligence truly Doom?


That, I think, it going to be very much at the heart of what FF does with the character. He *knows* he is without his intelligence now, and has actively stepped down as ruler of Latveria since he believes he can't rule in his current condition. This is what has driven him into the situation he now finds himself in as part of the Future Foundation. "Here," as Doom says in a brief flash of the future glimpsed in one panel a year ago, "I can build"...

Edited by Chris McFeely, 24 March 2011 - 10:36 AM.


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Posted 24 March 2011 - 02:38 PM

i've read it, and it's alright for a first issue. hopefully marvel will stick to FF rather than bringing Johnny back after a year and then naming the book Fantatic Four again.

What i'm really excited is to how Val plan on avenging Johnny's death. i was really hoping that the first issue would touch on that BUT as i said it's only the first issue.

Having Doom into the mix really "mixes" things up icon-fire.gif icon-fire.gif icon-fire.gif

I wonder if FF would invite all the brainy in the Marvel Universe. Like Bruce Banner, Tony Stark, or even Beast. They don't have to be in uniform (Iron man suit) to contribute to the FF. It would be like all of them just brain storming on a problem.

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 03:54 PM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Mar 24 2011, 08:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(LBD @ Mar 24 2011, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, wait... what happened to Doom's intelligence now?


He got brain-drained during "World War Hulks" when a machine he was using to try and sap intelligence from Marvel's superhero scientists backfired on him.


Apparently he didn't learn the first time: http://thatguywithth...-in-brain-drain

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 05:15 PM

Can anyone here give me a quick history lesson who the Wizard is? I always had this impression of him of being an old-school B-list FF villain, but he seemed pretty menacing in that breakout. And what is this about there being a child clone of him in the Future Foundation?

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 05:50 PM

QUOTE(gravitybomba @ Mar 25 2011, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can anyone here give me a quick history lesson who the Wizard is? I always had this impression of him of being an old-school B-list FF villain, but he seemed pretty menacing in that breakout. And what is this about there being a child clone of him in the Future Foundation?

GB!


Well, he sort of always WAS an old-school B-lister! He was a Human Torch villain from "Strange Tales" originally, then later brought over to the FF title as the leader of the Frightful Four. He's a genius inventor whose shtick revolves around anti-gravity devices (hence his sometime-codename, the "Wingless Wizard"). There's... honestly not a lot else to say! The kid-clone was from the very first issue of Hickman's run when the FF found out the Wizard was cloning himself, and Reed realized that he had genuinely lost his mind, claiming to have made some sort of divine contact and having started to "build" humans as a mission from God (he's using a lot of religious imagery in his speech now - that line about the fluttering of angel's wings in this issue, for instance). He's a gibbering mess without his helmet, which has a calmative effect on him - I think it's fairly strongly implied that the Wizard has somehow had his mind opened to the future terrors that Nathaniel is aware are coming. Reed's taken custody of one of the clones - "Bentley 32" - in the belief that he will be able to "fix" him, to raise him so that he will not be another Wizard. Bentley, of course, is the "something of his" that the Wizard mentions that Reed has in this issue. He's a dickish little fellow, but perhaps, in part, only because he seems to think he *should* be, because of who he is.

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 02:04 AM

This might be my favorite book right now. Just simply awesome. Hickman's writing is spot on and he seems to truly understand what type of story fits for the characters. The Council of Reed Richards thing next issue is going to be crazy.


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Posted 28 April 2011 - 02:16 AM

Glorious. Doom got un-Loebhugery'd, Infinite Reeds return next issue and Val is a delightful, frighteningly smart lass.

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 03:30 AM

^ Yes she is. I love her banter with her Uncle DOOM!

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 08:07 PM

This was another awesome issue, probably my favorite of the three so far. Hickman is right up there with Morrison and Johns as my top three favorite writers.

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 09:50 PM

I really hope Johnny stays dead and Hickman stays on writing. This title is amazing.
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Posted 12 May 2011 - 12:09 AM

Hickman's in for the long run.

I knew the Reeds were up to no good.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 04:13 AM

Val is maybe my favorite character...

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 01:22 PM

I can't say enough good things about this book. It's my favorite book on the market right now. I love how Hickman thinks BIG but also gets the small, important little character moments and one liners in. His characterization of all the characters is superb and he manages the large ensemble brilliantly, making sure everyone gets their moment. Even the kids aren't annoying! Like I said before, I just love Val Ricahrds! Also Susan is hugging hot!!! I loved the black versions of their FF costumes. Both the writing and art work are stellar in this book.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 04:42 PM

"sure"

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 09:03 PM

DOOM IS DISAPPOINT.

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