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@  Verno : (11 July 2020 - 11:20 PM)

2021: :idea :rolleyes :p :D

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:20 PM)

Perfection. :thumbsup

@  Patch : (11 July 2020 - 06:17 PM)

My plans:  :hmm  2020:  :)

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Our plans for 2020 were as amazing as Optimus Prime. But then 2020 came like Hot Rod.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 05:50 PM)

Indeed....

@  Bass X0 : (11 July 2020 - 05:40 PM)

"He who dies with the most toys wins."

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:11 PM)

Hey you, get moving, it's not too far, you're looking good so come as you are. Hey you, you never know what you'll see, when it's through that door with the 73.

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:10 PM)

Hey you, get ready, get on your feet. Get into gear and hit the street.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 12:46 PM)

I recall number 73 (old british show) discussing the Transformers movie and had the presenters trying to transform a few figures, one argued his deflated beach ball was a Transformer too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (11 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

And he's a big ball, but he's not the biggest ball of them all. (That'll be Pulse Unicron.)

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 07:37 AM)

Trypticon so scared my Primus figure he turned into a ball.

@  ▲ndrusi : (09 July 2020 - 09:56 PM)

King Nine, however, will not return.

@  Bass X0 : (09 July 2020 - 05:05 PM)

Bass_X0 will return after these messages ^^^

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 July 2020 - 03:37 PM)

WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOOOOOOOARRGH

@  -LittleAutob... : (09 July 2020 - 02:06 PM)

Okay?

@  Otaku : (09 July 2020 - 07:47 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk Ah, but the series itself has pronounced "Bass" both ways. ;)  Oh, 90s English Capcom video game voice acting...

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 July 2020 - 03:14 AM)

Looking at my Titan Returns collection I can see they realised they didn't have to paint the Titan Masters after wave one, lazy bums.

@  Maruten : (08 July 2020 - 09:13 PM)

No, I'm going with "fish".

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 July 2020 - 04:19 PM)

He stated that it's in reference to the Mega Man character, so it follows the series' tradition of music names.

@  Cybersnark : (08 July 2020 - 03:59 PM)

The real question is if it's "bass" as in music or "bass" as in the fish.

@  Otaku : (08 July 2020 - 01:27 PM)

Well, at least now I know how to pronounce @Bass X0 's screen name. ^^'  Rather, I think I'd just forgotten.  In my defense, it really does look like an emoticon or maybe just "decoration", which is what a lot of folks add to their screen names online.  Usually because someone has the name they really want. XD

@  ▲ndrusi : (08 July 2020 - 01:27 PM)

Extremely unimpressed with your idea that someone making a negative observation you don't like means they "got triggered."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (08 July 2020 - 11:16 AM)

You know somebody asked "And this would be in relation to... what exactly?"

@  Bass X0 : (08 July 2020 - 11:15 AM)

Its because someone got triggered over my random musings instead of just ignoring them. If I read one of your comments that is of no relevance or interest to me, I don't feel the need to say so.

@  -LittleAutob... : (08 July 2020 - 10:56 AM)

All this over someone's username lol

@  ▲ndrusi : (08 July 2020 - 08:34 AM)

Bazro.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (08 July 2020 - 06:34 AM)

It could be Bass 10-0

@  Nevermore : (08 July 2020 - 06:11 AM)

How do you pronounce yourself? "Bass Ex-O" or "Bass Ex-Zero"?

@  Bass X0 : (08 July 2020 - 03:23 AM)

I did almost go with Vile Bass X0, because Vile is cool too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 July 2020 - 08:34 PM)

Bossk Saw

@  ▲ndrusi : (07 July 2020 - 04:16 PM)

Bass XD

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 03:43 PM)

And its not Bass XO, its Bass X0, as in Bass, X and Zero from the Mega Man series.

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 July 2020 - 02:33 PM)

@Trpodeca :( :(

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 July 2020 - 02:32 PM)

Thats what a gray rock is? Then I'm not one.

@  Trpodeca : (07 July 2020 - 02:12 PM)

Man I just learnt about what seemed like a really cool show, only to realize it was a dream and it dosen't really exist.

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 01:02 PM)

Just something I read that I wanted to share. I heard "gray rock" mentioned in a video, so I looked it up and that was the definition.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 July 2020 - 12:20 PM)

It's a fancy way of saying "Ignore annoying people".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (07 July 2020 - 12:15 PM)

Bass XO has a habit of pasting random drivel here as if doing so were profound.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 July 2020 - 11:30 AM)

And this would be in relation to... what exactly?

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 11:25 AM)

"One strategy for dealing with a narcissist or sociopath is to act like a "gray rock," meaning that you become uninteresting and unresponsive. You don't feed their needs for drama or attention. You don't show emotion, say anything interesting, or disclose any personal information"

@  Nevermore : (06 July 2020 - 07:23 PM)

Oh wow. Studio Series Offroad Bumblebee is awesome. His articulation is amazing.

@  -LittleAutob... : (06 July 2020 - 11:18 AM)

Oof-

@  Maximus Ambus : (05 July 2020 - 01:10 AM)

I got Studio Series 39 Cogman yesterday and woke up to find he'd decapitated my titans returns figures.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 July 2020 - 10:19 PM)

If I had a sarcasm powered mouth.. ooohh waaaiiittt...

@  -LittleAutob... : (04 July 2020 - 05:01 PM)

Heh

@  Bass X0 : (04 July 2020 - 02:56 PM)

"If I had sarcasm-powered legs, I'd do a happy dance...!"

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 July 2020 - 02:39 PM)

The real clones were the friends we made along the way.

@  Maximus Ambus : (04 July 2020 - 01:47 PM)

So the Emperor in episodes 1 through 6 was a clone?

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 July 2020 - 10:47 AM)

(And the 0th anniversary of the last time I couldn't do math.)

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 July 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Today is the 24th anniversary of the day we fought off an alien invasion with the help of Will Smith.


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#101 Spark

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 09:27 PM

You should probably cut off the first two sentences of that question; it sounds like you're about to ask why several waves aren't on the pack-in fliers. Your actual question is a good point, though.
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#102 Detour

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:17 AM

Re-submitting this:
Hasbro's Marvel toylines in recent years have featured small vehicles like bikes, ATVs and even small dune buggies that either feature pull and roll action or pop-out weapons. These types of vehicles do have their place in military environments. With larger GIJoe vehicles, and even smaller Alpha Class ones, being in smaller demand, has Hasbro ever considered making such smaller vehicles for the GIJoe brand?

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


#103 Fortress Ironhold

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 07:03 AM

(I'll probably have a few more later, but here goes)


Back around 2002 - 2005, there were rumors circulating in the fandom that you still had the molds for the original 1983 G. I. Joe Headquarters playset and the 1985 USS Flagg playset, but were waiting on the returns from the Toys R US re-releases of the 1992 Headquarters and the Mobile Command Center to decide whether or not to release them as well. Is there any truth to this rumor? Do you indeed possess the molds for the 1983 Headquarters and the USS Flagg?

#104 Detour

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 07:23 AM

Those are indeed rumors and they do indeed no longer have access to those molds. And even if they did, as they have repeatedly said, there is no way they can release the USS Flagg in today's market.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


#105 Luke

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 10:01 AM

QUOTE(Detour @ Oct 2 2011, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Re-submitting this:
Hasbro's Marvel toylines in recent years have featured small vehicles like bikes, ATVs and even small dune buggies that either feature pull and roll action or pop-out weapons. These types of vehicles do have their place in military environments. With larger GIJoe vehicles, and even smaller Alpha Class ones, being in smaller demand, has Hasbro ever considered making such smaller vehicles for the GIJoe brand?

You're talking about the carded vehicles with unremovable "figures"? You think there's a market for that in Joe? icon-depth.gif

#106 Detour

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 10:10 AM

I'd buy em. For two bucks more than a regular Joe, I get a small, storage-manageable bike, ATV or dune buggy. Sure as hell beats dishing out 20$ for an oversized bike or ATV or dune buggy I won't be able to find a decent place for.


Also: The figures are removable. I asked around. Whether it's one of Spidey's bump-n-go machines or Cap/Iron Man's vehicles with the pop-out weaponry, the figures are removable.

Edited by Detour, 02 October 2011 - 10:12 AM.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


#107 Liege

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:21 PM

Where's my Ashiko Cycle Armor?

And no, I'm not willing to accept '$40 on Ebay/Amazon' as an answer.
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And Liege, you're words really have had an effect on me. It made me relise I've shouldn't care about what others think of me, I should only care about what I think of myself.

Liege is a small dude with a lot of wisdom.

Well one of those descriptive words is accurate I suppose!

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#108 NightViper

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:22 PM

QUOTE(Liege @ Oct 2 2011, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where's my Ashiko Cycle Armor?

And no, I'm not willing to accept '$40 on Ebay/Amazon' as an answer.



I've had two!

Sold one to Lukeblast for $20.

#109 Liege

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:27 PM

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Where'd you get em? If you happen to come across anymore feel free to send me a pm and we'll do business icon-hotrod.gif .
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QUOTE(Escargon @ Aug 1 2013, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Liege, you're words really have had an effect on me. It made me relise I've shouldn't care about what others think of me, I should only care about what I think of myself.

Liege is a small dude with a lot of wisdom.

Well one of those descriptive words is accurate I suppose!

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#110 Spark

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 01:31 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Oct 2 2011, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd buy em. For two bucks more than a regular Joe, I get a small, storage-manageable bike, ATV or dune buggy. Sure as hell beats dishing out 20$ for an oversized bike or ATV or dune buggy I won't be able to find a decent place for.


Also: The figures are removable. I asked around. Whether it's one of Spidey's bump-n-go machines or Cap/Iron Man's vehicles with the pop-out weaponry, the figures are removable.

I think you'd probably be in a tiny, tiny minority on that one. Even the Marvel fandom doesn't exactly pay attention to them.
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#111 Detour

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 01:51 PM

I dunno, some people were receptive of the idea. Heck, they can probably slap a low-paint figure (like they do on Bravo vehicles nowadays) instead of a barely-poseable figures, considering they did just that with the ROC Rip Attack vehicles and they didn't cost much more than those little vehicles.
(Side note, I'm still bummed the second wave of Rip Attack vehicles got canned)

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 02 October 2011 - 01:55 PM

Yeah. It's interesting in theory but I don't see it working out. We had the various Target Exclusives as an example of that very thing and we see where they went. Now admittedly they were over-priced at regular retail and were just right at ROSS but they even had their drawbacks and took a while to sell through. I bought the Twin Battle gun and the SNAKE armor and even the glider but the rest didn't do much for me. Also, I'm not sure where the cut-off is but consider the Silver Mirage'ish upgrade went to the Bravo class - probably partly due to having two figures - but still suddenly quite a bit more expensive for repaints.
 
 
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#113 Luke

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:22 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Oct 2 2011, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno, some people were receptive of the idea. Heck, they can probably slap a low-paint figure (like they do on Bravo vehicles nowadays) instead of a barely-poseable figures, considering they did just that with the ROC Rip Attack vehicles and they didn't cost much more than those little vehicles.
(Side note, I'm still bummed the second wave of Rip Attack vehicles got canned)

Um... if the Rip Attack vehicles were canned, how does that support your claims of viability?

I say this as someone who likes and wants more low-pricepoint vehicles. We can see Hasbro making various efforts (Rip Attack, Target Deluxe figures), but we can also see those efforts failing. If the market had supported them, Hasbro would have found a way to get them out at mass retail. They didn't, which suggests that whatever number "some people" is just isn't enough.

Edited by Lukeblast, 02 October 2011 - 02:46 PM.


#114 Steevy Maximus

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:30 PM

QUOTE(Dake @ Oct 2 2011, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah. It's interesting in theory but I don't see it working out. We had the various Target Exclusives as an example of that very thing and we see where they went. Now admittedly they were over-priced at regular retail and were just right at ROSS but they even had their drawbacks and took a while to sell through. I bought the Twin Battle gun and the SNAKE armor and even the glider but the rest didn't do much for me. Also, I'm not sure where the cut-off is but consider the Silver Mirage'ish upgrade went to the Bravo class - probably partly due to having two figures - but still suddenly quite a bit more expensive for repaints.

I still feel the "deluxe figure" concept has merit, especially with the apparent scrapping of Alpha Class vehicles (which is where the Silver Mirage-ish cycle and two figures ended up, not the Bravo class which has the "mid-sized" vehicles). All things considered (especially other vehicles prices), the $9.99 pricepoint I feel was quite fair, I think the weak performance was just endemic of the entire line and not the concept in particular.

I am still hoping Hasbro re-introduces the "deluxe" range with the next Joe line, hopefully styling it more like the Indiana Jones deluxe range (where you had a mix of small vehicles, "set pieces" and figure two packs)

#115 Detour

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:53 PM

QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Oct 2 2011, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Detour @ Oct 2 2011, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno, some people were receptive of the idea. Heck, they can probably slap a low-paint figure (like they do on Bravo vehicles nowadays) instead of a barely-poseable figures, considering they did just that with the ROC Rip Attack vehicles and they didn't cost much more than those little vehicles.
(Side note, I'm still bummed the second wave of Rip Attack vehicles got canned)

Um... if the Rip Attack vehicles were canned, how does that support your claims of viability?

I say this as someone who likes and wants more low-pricepoint vehicles. We can see Hasbro making various efforts (Rip Attack, Target Deluxe figures), but we can also see those efforts failing. If the market had supported them, Hasbro would have found a way to get them out at mass retail. They didn't, which suggests that whatever number "some people" is just isn't enough.

Well, geez, ain't it at least worth asking?
Dake even admitted the Target stuff was overpriced (and over in Canada, the few Zellers got cost as much as a BRAVO CLASS VEHICLE), but as far as Canadian retail goes those little ATVs, bikes, buggies and go-karts cost only 2 or 3$ more than the regular retail figure, already a more appealing price.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


#116 Spark

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 03:13 PM

QUOTE(Steevy Maximus @ Oct 2 2011, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am still hoping Hasbro re-introduces the "deluxe" range with the next Joe line, hopefully styling it more like the Indiana Jones deluxe range (where you had a mix of small vehicles, "set pieces" and figure two packs)

I doubt Hasbro will be revisiting any concept used in the Indiana Jones line, considering it ended so badly that it skipped right over Ross and TJ Maxx into Tuesday Morning and some Dollar Generals.

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QUOTE(Detour @ Oct 2 2011, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno, some people were receptive of the idea. Heck, they can probably slap a low-paint figure (like they do on Bravo vehicles nowadays) instead of a barely-poseable figures, considering they did just that with the ROC Rip Attack vehicles and they didn't cost much more than those little vehicles.
(Side note, I'm still bummed the second wave of Rip Attack vehicles got canned)

Um... if the Rip Attack vehicles were canned, how does that support your claims of viability?

I say this as someone who likes and wants more low-pricepoint vehicles. We can see Hasbro making various efforts (Rip Attack, Target Deluxe figures), but we can also see those efforts failing. If the market had supported them, Hasbro would have found a way to get them out at mass retail. They didn't, which suggests that whatever number "some people" is just isn't enough.

Well, geez, ain't it at least worth asking?

I would say yes, but I've got a feeling you already know as well as we do that you'll get a canned answer along the lines of "if the market supports it", which pretty much means no. Like Lukeblast said, the Rip Attack stuff didn't do well, so it's probably not something Hasbro will try again soon.
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#117 Dake

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 03:50 PM

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Alpha Class vehicles (which is where the Silver Mirage-ish cycle and two figures ended up, not the Bravo class which has the "mid-sized" vehicles).


Yeah - sorry, that's what I meant. Those Target Exclusives were in a class of their own - sub-alpha I guess. Either way I just don't see it really happening. If nothing else even look at the original ARAH line. With very few exceptions, the smallest vehicles like the Pac-rats and even the RAM didn't come with figures at all. Zartan came with the Chameleon and you had the gliders and whatnot, but on the whole you didn't get both.

It seems like they've decided that small stuff won't sell without figures but adding figures makes them too expensive and they don't sell anyway.

Now, since the exclusives were technically RoC left overs as were the Rip Attack they were too expensive. We've already seen Hasbro has worked to get the new wave of Bravo vehicles onto shelves at a lower price so if they truly could get a sub-alpha deluxe type figure pack onto pegs for maybe ten bucks it might do well... but that's a lot of gambling when none of the retailers appear willing to give Joe more than about four pegs worth of space right now.

I think we'll be waiting for the next film to hopefully get the retailers excited again (here's hoping their short attention span works to Joe's advantage this time).
 
 
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#118 Luke

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 04:47 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Oct 2 2011, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dake even admitted the Target stuff was overpriced (and over in Canada, the few Zellers got cost as much as a BRAVO CLASS VEHICLE), but as far as Canadian retail goes those little ATVs, bikes, buggies and go-karts cost only 2 or 3$ more than the regular retail figure, already a more appealing price.

But then you would like them to add a fully-posable figure in there. Even with no paint whatsoever and no accessories, that's going to be way more parts than the single-piece unposable riders that come on most vehicles like that. The production cost will go up, the retail price will go up... and then we've blown right past the pricepoint you want them to hit and we're back into the Target Deluxes and Rip Attack range.

I think the only way to make the concept work would be to have unposable Joes on the vehicles, or have the vehicles come without figures. I can't imagine either of those things succeeding.

Edited by Lukeblast, 02 October 2011 - 04:52 PM.


#119 Spark

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 07:08 PM

QUOTE(Dake @ Oct 2 2011, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think we'll be waiting for the next film to hopefully get the retailers excited again (here's hoping their short attention span works to Joe's advantage this time).

Hopefully they also won't overorder the first two waves by a bajillion. And won't price them at $9 a figure for the first month or two.

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QUOTE(Detour @ Oct 2 2011, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dake even admitted the Target stuff was overpriced (and over in Canada, the few Zellers got cost as much as a BRAVO CLASS VEHICLE), but as far as Canadian retail goes those little ATVs, bikes, buggies and go-karts cost only 2 or 3$ more than the regular retail figure, already a more appealing price.

But then you would like them to add a fully-posable figure in there. Even with no paint whatsoever and no accessories, that's going to be way more parts than the single-piece unposable riders that come on most vehicles like that. The production cost will go up, the retail price will go up... and then we've blown right past the pricepoint you want them to hit and we're back into the Target Deluxes and Rip Attack range.

I think the only way to make the concept work would be to have unposable Joes on the vehicles, or have the vehicles come without figures. I can't imagine either of those things succeeding.

That's without factoring in the cost of designing and pressing molds for a new articulation-less figure. The figures on the most of the vehicles and Rip Attack things were just pieced together from existing molds. You don't get that advantage here.

In short, the idea's just not viable no matter which way you cut it.
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#120 Detour

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 02:27 AM

QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Oct 2 2011, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the only way to make the concept work would be to have unposable Joes on the vehicles, or have the vehicles come without figures. I can't imagine either of those things succeeding.

The latter, definitely. The former, maybe, maybe not. It works for Marvel, they've done it for every line except Thor.

As for why I think quick and less-painted frankenjoes might work, well. Rip Attack was still costing less than an Alpha vehicle... the vehicles themselves were pretty much on par with the size of the little Marvel vehicles... and the figures included did feature a decent number of paint apps (Street Viper was an unchanged Elite-Viper, silver wash and all, while Snake-Eyes had as many paint apps as the regular ROC Snake-Eyes). If you remove the big launcher and the ripcord mechanism I think a vehicle like that can be brought down to the price of those little Marvel vehicles.
Or at least, I think it's plausible enough to ask.

Edited by Detour, 03 October 2011 - 02:27 AM.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.