Jump to content


Toggle shoutbox Squawkbox Open the Shoutbox in a popup

Please don't post Youtube videos in the chat box. The forums software auto embeds them. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 December 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I'm pretty sure you've already mentioned this before. Especially that last one.

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:05 AM)

That can be fun if you're strong-willed enough. "Hey, you want to go home? Overtime reduction, there's nothing to do..." - "Nah, not today. I want to work."

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:04 AM)

This applies to the field of work as well. Meaning, your boss orders you to show up for a full shift, you show up on time and are absolutely willing to work, and then your boss realizes he has no work for you, your boss has to pay you for a full shift even if you don't work at all.

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:03 AM)

Fun fact: German law has a concept named "default in acceptance", which postulates that if there is a "service for payment" contract, the party that should provide the service correctly offers their due service, and the party that should pay fails to accept the service within due time, the second party still has to pay the first party even if there was no service delivered.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:54 PM)

If it's seasonal affective disorder, check with your doc about vitamin D supplements.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:46 PM)

That's what I was thinking too, It's the christmas rush and if that's not stressful enough the cold weather can also impact mental health.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 12:41 PM)

Might be a stupid question given the comment, BUT: have you done anything outside the ordinary lately? Might just be a stress reaction.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I've experienced sleep paralysis with ghostly images and similar things in the past and can snap out of it through moving my fingers. I've definitely hallucinated before and members of both sides of the family have had similar experience, some suffered forms of mental instability in two cases schizophrenia.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:47 AM)

So... either a hallucination or night terrors. Are you prone to this kind of thing?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:55 PM)

It kept repeating until I sat up.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:54 PM)

I've been up since three and when sheepish I was hallucinating something knocking twice against my bedroom door.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 December 2019 - 06:58 PM)

Then repaint Apeface and Snapdragon as Transmetal Optimus Primal and Megatron. It's crazy enough to work.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 December 2019 - 05:32 PM)

Moral imperative.

@  Nevermore : (07 December 2019 - 05:13 PM)

Wishful thinking, rumor or leak?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 04:48 PM)

Snapdragon for Earthrise.

@  TM2-Megatron : (04 December 2019 - 10:22 PM)

Still not the weirdest thing a Nic Cage character has done in a film

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 04:00 PM)

Couldn't be worse than him pissing fire as Ghost Rider.

@  Rycochet : (04 December 2019 - 03:38 PM)

The Tim Burton Superman Movie is the DC movie we deserve. It would have Nic Cage in a technosuit punching polarbears.

@  Paladin : (04 December 2019 - 02:59 PM)

Wonder Woman was great. Shazam was amazing. Aquaman... exists.

@  RichardT1977 : (04 December 2019 - 01:54 PM)

TBF, Aquaman and Shazam! were pretty good.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 01:00 PM)

Not a difficult feat.

@  Benbot : (04 December 2019 - 11:50 AM)

You just put more effort into telling a compelling story than all of WB's execs.

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:41 AM)

Cue the flashback to Jonathan, reassuring a terrified child: "What you are is never as important as who you are." Cue Superman's response to Brainiac: "I already know who I am."*John Williams fanfare plays*

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

I don't think we even really need to see Krypton. I'd start with Clark growing up in Kansas, thinking he's normal, and follow him through the development of his powers. There've been enough alternate takes on Krypton that it could actually work as a mystery; is this the pre-Crisis utopia, the sterile science world, or the relic of a fallen empire? Brainiac was there, and he tempts Clark with the knowledge of what he really is.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:12 AM)

First, a Krypton film, ending with baby Kal-El being found on Earth.  Then Supe's early career film, establishing his values... and if Jonothan Kent needs to die, it happens because of something like a heart attack while Clark is savnig folks on the other side of the world.  After we know Clark minimizes property damage and never kills, have Zod & Company show up and force him to make tough choices.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:07 AM)

Man of Steel seems like someone came up with a Superman trilogy and then the execs said "We've got to catch up to Marvel, make it one film!".  I don't mean that based on the film's actual pacing, but because various story beats make more sense to me if they weren't all squished together.

@  Cybersnark : (03 December 2019 - 07:44 PM)

I've been wanting to write a Superman movie trilogy for years; "Man of Steel" (featuring a Terminator-like Brainiac) was going to be first, with "Last Son of Krypton" (featuring the Eradicator) as the sequel and "Man of Tomorrow" (in which Luthor makes his face-heel turn) as the conclusion. Thanks to Snyder I have to re-arrange my titles.

@  Nevermore : (03 December 2019 - 06:15 PM)

I still wish "Man of Steel" had instead been an adaptation of both the John Byrne miniseries of the same name and the Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale miniseries "Superman For All Seasons".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (03 December 2019 - 04:42 PM)

A take I just read: Man of Steel is shot with such a lack of lighting that it is easier to discern what is going on in a porn film.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 December 2019 - 12:20 PM)

Making Soylant is harder then it looks, it's not like the movies, you have to keep whacking and hacking at the ingredient, it'll scream and fight, maybe bite but eventually it will go down.

@  Paladin : (03 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

varies from person to person.

@  Benbot : (03 December 2019 - 11:34 AM)

It's an acquired taste

@  CORVUS : (03 December 2019 - 11:17 AM)

Soylent? Its pretty awful.

@  unluckiness : (03 December 2019 - 02:49 AM)

Depends on your denomination of Christianity

@  Patch : (02 December 2019 - 05:52 PM)

@Benbot Do they have a soy-free version? Like maybe just "Lent?"

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 02:03 PM)

Just occurred to me 'Autobot' Megatron happened in Target 2006.

@  Benbot : (02 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

have you tried Soylent? It's pretty good! https://soylent.com/

@  Paladin : (02 December 2019 - 10:01 AM)

i prefer free-range human usually. pain in the ass to hunt though...

@  TheMightyMol... : (02 December 2019 - 09:42 AM)

If your human is all bones, you may have purchased a skeleton by accident. Contact your grocer to inquire about exhange policies.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 09:31 AM)

Vegans are categorised as human therefore just fall under Soylant, they are usually all bones.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:47 PM)

Cause... that latter one is technically all burgers anyway.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:46 PM)

So... a burger made without meat, or a burger made with the meat taken from a vegan?

@  Maximus Ambus : (01 December 2019 - 04:22 PM)

I had a vegan burger last week, this week I'll give a vegan steak a shot.

@  wonko the sane? : (30 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

a proper paradox would have broken the board. Nice try though.

@  Maximus Ambus : (30 November 2019 - 01:47 AM)

This shout is empty.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (30 November 2019 - 12:01 AM)

I've got the admit. tubi tv is great. It's got a lot of stuff.. Including Super Sentai.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There is frankly no better place to (legally) find schlock on the internet for free than Tubi TV

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:33 PM)

It's got all the graphic violence and gratuitous nudity a late 80s OVA should have.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

Available for free with ads on Tubi TV.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

It's "Goku: Midnight Eye". Originally produced in the late 80s, it apparently wasn't dubbed until the late 90s given Steve Blum was the lead.


Photo
* * * - - 1 votes

Hasbro GI Joe Q&A 2011 Round 6 - due Monday, October 31


This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.
146 replies to this topic

#101 Spark

Spark
  • Citizen
  • 39166 posts

Posted 01 October 2011 - 09:27 PM

You should probably cut off the first two sentences of that question; it sounds like you're about to ask why several waves aren't on the pack-in fliers. Your actual question is a good point, though.
Fall of Cybertron will blow your mind. That is all.

#102 Detour

Detour

    Too lazy to change the avatar but Graham Linehan is a sack of sh

  • Supporter
  • 20673 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:17 AM

Re-submitting this:
Hasbro's Marvel toylines in recent years have featured small vehicles like bikes, ATVs and even small dune buggies that either feature pull and roll action or pop-out weapons. These types of vehicles do have their place in military environments. With larger GIJoe vehicles, and even smaller Alpha Class ones, being in smaller demand, has Hasbro ever considered making such smaller vehicles for the GIJoe brand?

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


#103 Fortress Ironhold

Fortress Ironhold

    Blasphemer

  • Banned
  • 20567 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 07:03 AM

(I'll probably have a few more later, but here goes)


Back around 2002 - 2005, there were rumors circulating in the fandom that you still had the molds for the original 1983 G. I. Joe Headquarters playset and the 1985 USS Flagg playset, but were waiting on the returns from the Toys R US re-releases of the 1992 Headquarters and the Mobile Command Center to decide whether or not to release them as well. Is there any truth to this rumor? Do you indeed possess the molds for the 1983 Headquarters and the USS Flagg?

#104 Detour

Detour

    Too lazy to change the avatar but Graham Linehan is a sack of sh

  • Supporter
  • 20673 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 07:23 AM

Those are indeed rumors and they do indeed no longer have access to those molds. And even if they did, as they have repeatedly said, there is no way they can release the USS Flagg in today's market.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


#105 Luke

Luke
  • Retired Staff
  • 15021 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 10:01 AM

QUOTE(Detour @ Oct 2 2011, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Re-submitting this:
Hasbro's Marvel toylines in recent years have featured small vehicles like bikes, ATVs and even small dune buggies that either feature pull and roll action or pop-out weapons. These types of vehicles do have their place in military environments. With larger GIJoe vehicles, and even smaller Alpha Class ones, being in smaller demand, has Hasbro ever considered making such smaller vehicles for the GIJoe brand?

You're talking about the carded vehicles with unremovable "figures"? You think there's a market for that in Joe? icon-depth.gif

#106 Detour

Detour

    Too lazy to change the avatar but Graham Linehan is a sack of sh

  • Supporter
  • 20673 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 10:10 AM

I'd buy em. For two bucks more than a regular Joe, I get a small, storage-manageable bike, ATV or dune buggy. Sure as hell beats dishing out 20$ for an oversized bike or ATV or dune buggy I won't be able to find a decent place for.


Also: The figures are removable. I asked around. Whether it's one of Spidey's bump-n-go machines or Cap/Iron Man's vehicles with the pop-out weaponry, the figures are removable.

Edited by Detour, 02 October 2011 - 10:12 AM.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


#107 Liege

Liege

    Deathsaurus Rising

  • Supporter
  • 4862 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:21 PM

Where's my Ashiko Cycle Armor?

And no, I'm not willing to accept '$40 on Ebay/Amazon' as an answer.
QUOTE(NightViper @ Aug 3 2013, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Escargon @ Aug 1 2013, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Liege, you're words really have had an effect on me. It made me relise I've shouldn't care about what others think of me, I should only care about what I think of myself.

Liege is a small dude with a lot of wisdom.

Well one of those descriptive words is accurate I suppose!

3ds friend code: kyle 4141 2965 5460 pm me yours to add.

#108 NightViper

NightViper

    Ehhhhh...

  • Retired Staff
  • 42445 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:22 PM

QUOTE(Liege @ Oct 2 2011, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where's my Ashiko Cycle Armor?

And no, I'm not willing to accept '$40 on Ebay/Amazon' as an answer.



I've had two!

Sold one to Lukeblast for $20.

#109 Liege

Liege

    Deathsaurus Rising

  • Supporter
  • 4862 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:27 PM

icon-megs.gif

icon-waspy.gif

Where'd you get em? If you happen to come across anymore feel free to send me a pm and we'll do business icon-hotrod.gif .
QUOTE(NightViper @ Aug 3 2013, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Escargon @ Aug 1 2013, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Liege, you're words really have had an effect on me. It made me relise I've shouldn't care about what others think of me, I should only care about what I think of myself.

Liege is a small dude with a lot of wisdom.

Well one of those descriptive words is accurate I suppose!

3ds friend code: kyle 4141 2965 5460 pm me yours to add.

#110 Spark

Spark
  • Citizen
  • 39166 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 01:31 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Oct 2 2011, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd buy em. For two bucks more than a regular Joe, I get a small, storage-manageable bike, ATV or dune buggy. Sure as hell beats dishing out 20$ for an oversized bike or ATV or dune buggy I won't be able to find a decent place for.


Also: The figures are removable. I asked around. Whether it's one of Spidey's bump-n-go machines or Cap/Iron Man's vehicles with the pop-out weaponry, the figures are removable.

I think you'd probably be in a tiny, tiny minority on that one. Even the Marvel fandom doesn't exactly pay attention to them.
Fall of Cybertron will blow your mind. That is all.

#111 Detour

Detour

    Too lazy to change the avatar but Graham Linehan is a sack of sh

  • Supporter
  • 20673 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 01:51 PM

I dunno, some people were receptive of the idea. Heck, they can probably slap a low-paint figure (like they do on Bravo vehicles nowadays) instead of a barely-poseable figures, considering they did just that with the ROC Rip Attack vehicles and they didn't cost much more than those little vehicles.
(Side note, I'm still bummed the second wave of Rip Attack vehicles got canned)

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


#112 Dake

Dake

    Resident resident

  • Supporter
  • 19267 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 01:55 PM

Yeah. It's interesting in theory but I don't see it working out. We had the various Target Exclusives as an example of that very thing and we see where they went. Now admittedly they were over-priced at regular retail and were just right at ROSS but they even had their drawbacks and took a while to sell through. I bought the Twin Battle gun and the SNAKE armor and even the glider but the rest didn't do much for me. Also, I'm not sure where the cut-off is but consider the Silver Mirage'ish upgrade went to the Bravo class - probably partly due to having two figures - but still suddenly quite a bit more expensive for repaints.
 
 
8ZSy6aw.jpg

#113 Luke

Luke
  • Retired Staff
  • 15021 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:22 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Oct 2 2011, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno, some people were receptive of the idea. Heck, they can probably slap a low-paint figure (like they do on Bravo vehicles nowadays) instead of a barely-poseable figures, considering they did just that with the ROC Rip Attack vehicles and they didn't cost much more than those little vehicles.
(Side note, I'm still bummed the second wave of Rip Attack vehicles got canned)

Um... if the Rip Attack vehicles were canned, how does that support your claims of viability?

I say this as someone who likes and wants more low-pricepoint vehicles. We can see Hasbro making various efforts (Rip Attack, Target Deluxe figures), but we can also see those efforts failing. If the market had supported them, Hasbro would have found a way to get them out at mass retail. They didn't, which suggests that whatever number "some people" is just isn't enough.

Edited by Lukeblast, 02 October 2011 - 02:46 PM.


#114 Steevy Maximus

Steevy Maximus

    Snarky Siegie

  • Citizen
  • 4619 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:30 PM

QUOTE(Dake @ Oct 2 2011, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah. It's interesting in theory but I don't see it working out. We had the various Target Exclusives as an example of that very thing and we see where they went. Now admittedly they were over-priced at regular retail and were just right at ROSS but they even had their drawbacks and took a while to sell through. I bought the Twin Battle gun and the SNAKE armor and even the glider but the rest didn't do much for me. Also, I'm not sure where the cut-off is but consider the Silver Mirage'ish upgrade went to the Bravo class - probably partly due to having two figures - but still suddenly quite a bit more expensive for repaints.

I still feel the "deluxe figure" concept has merit, especially with the apparent scrapping of Alpha Class vehicles (which is where the Silver Mirage-ish cycle and two figures ended up, not the Bravo class which has the "mid-sized" vehicles). All things considered (especially other vehicles prices), the $9.99 pricepoint I feel was quite fair, I think the weak performance was just endemic of the entire line and not the concept in particular.

I am still hoping Hasbro re-introduces the "deluxe" range with the next Joe line, hopefully styling it more like the Indiana Jones deluxe range (where you had a mix of small vehicles, "set pieces" and figure two packs)

#115 Detour

Detour

    Too lazy to change the avatar but Graham Linehan is a sack of sh

  • Supporter
  • 20673 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:53 PM

QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Oct 2 2011, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Detour @ Oct 2 2011, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno, some people were receptive of the idea. Heck, they can probably slap a low-paint figure (like they do on Bravo vehicles nowadays) instead of a barely-poseable figures, considering they did just that with the ROC Rip Attack vehicles and they didn't cost much more than those little vehicles.
(Side note, I'm still bummed the second wave of Rip Attack vehicles got canned)

Um... if the Rip Attack vehicles were canned, how does that support your claims of viability?

I say this as someone who likes and wants more low-pricepoint vehicles. We can see Hasbro making various efforts (Rip Attack, Target Deluxe figures), but we can also see those efforts failing. If the market had supported them, Hasbro would have found a way to get them out at mass retail. They didn't, which suggests that whatever number "some people" is just isn't enough.

Well, geez, ain't it at least worth asking?
Dake even admitted the Target stuff was overpriced (and over in Canada, the few Zellers got cost as much as a BRAVO CLASS VEHICLE), but as far as Canadian retail goes those little ATVs, bikes, buggies and go-karts cost only 2 or 3$ more than the regular retail figure, already a more appealing price.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


#116 Spark

Spark
  • Citizen
  • 39166 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 03:13 PM

QUOTE(Steevy Maximus @ Oct 2 2011, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am still hoping Hasbro re-introduces the "deluxe" range with the next Joe line, hopefully styling it more like the Indiana Jones deluxe range (where you had a mix of small vehicles, "set pieces" and figure two packs)

I doubt Hasbro will be revisiting any concept used in the Indiana Jones line, considering it ended so badly that it skipped right over Ross and TJ Maxx into Tuesday Morning and some Dollar Generals.

QUOTE(Detour @ Oct 2 2011, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Oct 2 2011, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Detour @ Oct 2 2011, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno, some people were receptive of the idea. Heck, they can probably slap a low-paint figure (like they do on Bravo vehicles nowadays) instead of a barely-poseable figures, considering they did just that with the ROC Rip Attack vehicles and they didn't cost much more than those little vehicles.
(Side note, I'm still bummed the second wave of Rip Attack vehicles got canned)

Um... if the Rip Attack vehicles were canned, how does that support your claims of viability?

I say this as someone who likes and wants more low-pricepoint vehicles. We can see Hasbro making various efforts (Rip Attack, Target Deluxe figures), but we can also see those efforts failing. If the market had supported them, Hasbro would have found a way to get them out at mass retail. They didn't, which suggests that whatever number "some people" is just isn't enough.

Well, geez, ain't it at least worth asking?

I would say yes, but I've got a feeling you already know as well as we do that you'll get a canned answer along the lines of "if the market supports it", which pretty much means no. Like Lukeblast said, the Rip Attack stuff didn't do well, so it's probably not something Hasbro will try again soon.
Fall of Cybertron will blow your mind. That is all.

#117 Dake

Dake

    Resident resident

  • Supporter
  • 19267 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 03:50 PM

QUOTE
Alpha Class vehicles (which is where the Silver Mirage-ish cycle and two figures ended up, not the Bravo class which has the "mid-sized" vehicles).


Yeah - sorry, that's what I meant. Those Target Exclusives were in a class of their own - sub-alpha I guess. Either way I just don't see it really happening. If nothing else even look at the original ARAH line. With very few exceptions, the smallest vehicles like the Pac-rats and even the RAM didn't come with figures at all. Zartan came with the Chameleon and you had the gliders and whatnot, but on the whole you didn't get both.

It seems like they've decided that small stuff won't sell without figures but adding figures makes them too expensive and they don't sell anyway.

Now, since the exclusives were technically RoC left overs as were the Rip Attack they were too expensive. We've already seen Hasbro has worked to get the new wave of Bravo vehicles onto shelves at a lower price so if they truly could get a sub-alpha deluxe type figure pack onto pegs for maybe ten bucks it might do well... but that's a lot of gambling when none of the retailers appear willing to give Joe more than about four pegs worth of space right now.

I think we'll be waiting for the next film to hopefully get the retailers excited again (here's hoping their short attention span works to Joe's advantage this time).
 
 
8ZSy6aw.jpg

#118 Luke

Luke
  • Retired Staff
  • 15021 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 04:47 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Oct 2 2011, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dake even admitted the Target stuff was overpriced (and over in Canada, the few Zellers got cost as much as a BRAVO CLASS VEHICLE), but as far as Canadian retail goes those little ATVs, bikes, buggies and go-karts cost only 2 or 3$ more than the regular retail figure, already a more appealing price.

But then you would like them to add a fully-posable figure in there. Even with no paint whatsoever and no accessories, that's going to be way more parts than the single-piece unposable riders that come on most vehicles like that. The production cost will go up, the retail price will go up... and then we've blown right past the pricepoint you want them to hit and we're back into the Target Deluxes and Rip Attack range.

I think the only way to make the concept work would be to have unposable Joes on the vehicles, or have the vehicles come without figures. I can't imagine either of those things succeeding.

Edited by Lukeblast, 02 October 2011 - 04:52 PM.


#119 Spark

Spark
  • Citizen
  • 39166 posts

Posted 02 October 2011 - 07:08 PM

QUOTE(Dake @ Oct 2 2011, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think we'll be waiting for the next film to hopefully get the retailers excited again (here's hoping their short attention span works to Joe's advantage this time).

Hopefully they also won't overorder the first two waves by a bajillion. And won't price them at $9 a figure for the first month or two.

QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Oct 2 2011, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Detour @ Oct 2 2011, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dake even admitted the Target stuff was overpriced (and over in Canada, the few Zellers got cost as much as a BRAVO CLASS VEHICLE), but as far as Canadian retail goes those little ATVs, bikes, buggies and go-karts cost only 2 or 3$ more than the regular retail figure, already a more appealing price.

But then you would like them to add a fully-posable figure in there. Even with no paint whatsoever and no accessories, that's going to be way more parts than the single-piece unposable riders that come on most vehicles like that. The production cost will go up, the retail price will go up... and then we've blown right past the pricepoint you want them to hit and we're back into the Target Deluxes and Rip Attack range.

I think the only way to make the concept work would be to have unposable Joes on the vehicles, or have the vehicles come without figures. I can't imagine either of those things succeeding.

That's without factoring in the cost of designing and pressing molds for a new articulation-less figure. The figures on the most of the vehicles and Rip Attack things were just pieced together from existing molds. You don't get that advantage here.

In short, the idea's just not viable no matter which way you cut it.
Fall of Cybertron will blow your mind. That is all.

#120 Detour

Detour

    Too lazy to change the avatar but Graham Linehan is a sack of sh

  • Supporter
  • 20673 posts

Posted 03 October 2011 - 02:27 AM

QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Oct 2 2011, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the only way to make the concept work would be to have unposable Joes on the vehicles, or have the vehicles come without figures. I can't imagine either of those things succeeding.

The latter, definitely. The former, maybe, maybe not. It works for Marvel, they've done it for every line except Thor.

As for why I think quick and less-painted frankenjoes might work, well. Rip Attack was still costing less than an Alpha vehicle... the vehicles themselves were pretty much on par with the size of the little Marvel vehicles... and the figures included did feature a decent number of paint apps (Street Viper was an unchanged Elite-Viper, silver wash and all, while Snake-Eyes had as many paint apps as the regular ROC Snake-Eyes). If you remove the big launcher and the ripcord mechanism I think a vehicle like that can be brought down to the price of those little Marvel vehicles.
Or at least, I think it's plausible enough to ask.

Edited by Detour, 03 October 2011 - 02:27 AM.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.