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@  unitremover : (22 February 2017 - 09:36 PM)

I haven't been up there in a while but one of the Walmarts around here still has AOE deluxes out. Some of the CVSs do too.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 February 2017 - 09:34 PM)

It's been the same thing in local stores for ages up here.

@  BlackMax : (22 February 2017 - 09:33 PM)

One near me is the same - I swear they have over forty Deluxes there, all from many months ago.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 07:43 PM)

my walmart finally filled those empty tr pegs. and of course its a mix of waves one and 2 (wave 1.5?)

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:11 PM)

Got Highbrow, Skullcrusher, Scourge, and Chromedome for $5 a piece

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:10 PM)

My Walmart had a Generations Rattrap hanging for the past 2 and a half years, and in trying to clearance it, inadvertently marked down the entire Generations Deluxe assortment.

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:09 PM)

A shelf warmer's ultimate revenge: being around long enough that in trying to clearance it...the store marks down the entire SKU!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:59 AM)

Eh, he would've gotten beaten up if the government sent just about anyone.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:56 AM)

Regardless, literally everything I've ever seen (and a lot on tfwiki) attributes Megatron's slide into violence to Whirl beating him up while in custody. Maybe not like flicking a switch but Megatron's line "You made me. You taught me words were weightless without force" kinda spells it out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:38 AM)

I'm not sure if there even was a specific turning point, but he didn't seem kill happy yet when he was with Terminus, and that was after Whirl beating him up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:24 AM)

It was also before any sort of uprising or him actually doing much of anything.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:20 AM)

I mean, the whole thing didn't start as "the great war". It was an uprising that eventually morphed into a the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:17 AM)

Yeah, of course it's before the war, Whirl beating Megatron while he was in custody was the tipping point that made Megatron turn violent.

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:08 AM)

again

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:04 AM)

Forgot this wasn't a search bar

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:03 AM)

hascon

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 05:12 AM)

But the thing with Whirl was before he started the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 03:28 AM)

Like so many awful things in that universe, it's basically Whirl's fault.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 12:51 AM)

for about 10 minutes. then he got all kill happy

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 February 2017 - 10:27 PM)

Wouldn't IDW Megatron kind of count since his main reason for instigating the Great War was to overthrow the Functionist social order?

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:05 PM)

(I haven't read IDW at all please don't sue me)

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:04 PM)

Tyrest? He was chief justice, even :p

@  Bass X0 : (21 February 2017 - 03:24 PM)

I kinda want an Autobot to have the function of "Social Justice Warrior".

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 12:20 PM)

Even we have limits.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 12:18 PM)

Good. But let's agree not to do one for Tecumseh.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 12:12 PM)

Shitting Bull.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 11:54 AM)

or spending a lot of time taking a Squatto?

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 11:49 AM)

nice

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 11:42 AM)

Just hope it's clean or you'll be meeting Pukeahontas.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 10:39 AM)

Snackajawea - REAL Native American food prepackaged for your snacking pleasure!

@  Pennpenn : (19 February 2017 - 04:03 AM)

Oh wait, figured it out. Doi...

@  Pennpenn : (19 February 2017 - 04:02 AM)

I'm kinda disappointed how they messed up Legion Bisk's hands so that his front wheels can't roll.

@  RichardT1977 : (19 February 2017 - 12:45 AM)

One of the Walmarts near me has some pegs full of Wave 1 TR deluxes.

@  Paladin : (18 February 2017 - 09:39 PM)

https://twitter.com/autobase_aichi/status/833142409005391872 ....is that an MP DINOBOT teaser?!?!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 09:35 PM)

Yeah, never seen a Titans Return Hot Rod

@  LBD "Nyt... : (18 February 2017 - 08:58 PM)

Or Hot Rod. D=

@  LBD "Nyt... : (18 February 2017 - 08:58 PM)

Wow, seriously? I don't think I've even seen him here. =(

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 07:50 PM)

Yeah Mindwipe shelfwarmed like crazy in Vancouver.

@  Steevy Maximus : (18 February 2017 - 07:36 PM)

My Walmart still has a Rattrap floating around. My frustration is I've seen Hot Rod and Doublecross, but still haven't seen a Highbrow

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 07:02 PM)

I still haven't seen any Wave 3 Deluxes aside from the Triggerhappy I got off eBay.

@  Pennpenn : (18 February 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Fairly sure the Target near my work still has a CW Wheeljack hanging around the Wave 3 TR deluxes. Just wish we'd gotten Wave 2 deluxes...

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 06:53 PM)

CW deluxes from the later waves clogged the shelves real bad.

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 06:52 PM)

Correction: TR deluxes don't shelfwarm.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 06:47 PM)

Generations deluxes don't shelfwarm.

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 06:30 PM)

Hm, interesting. Some of the pegs seem to have the correct names when they've been shelfwarming for a while. So like Mindwipe would be on a peg labelled MINDWIPE next to WOLFWIRE, etc.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2017 - 06:30 PM)

It would make less sense to track individual figures when they're ordered by the assortment anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 03:02 PM)

Nope. walmart tends to scan the first UPC of the assortment, then use it for the entire assortment. Actually tracking data makes to much sense.

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 02:37 PM)

So hey I bought Triggerhappy from Walmart a few days ago and just notice the receipt said TRIGGERHAPPY on it. Not the assortment name or whatever. Are they using this info to better track character sales or something?

@  unluckiness : (18 February 2017 - 07:13 AM)

I think there was a premonition panel in the Devil's Due TF vs JOEs

@  Bass X0 : (18 February 2017 - 05:28 AM)

When an app asks me to give a review or a rating, I decline, but I always look at other people's reviews before I get an app.


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#61 Detour

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 08:36 PM

QUOTE(Steevy Maximus @ Aug 3 2011, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To be fair, that is pretty much true of ALL the dreadnoks in their classic looks.

I dunno, Buzzer's tan vest and blue jeans manage to hold up, so long as the torso's not recycled for Leatherneck and Dial-Tone.
But yeah, Torch and Ripper, ugh. It's why "Leopard Print Ripper" is still pegwarming around here. (on the other hand, turning Torch's S&M vest into a brown vest helps just a teensy bit little)

Edited by Detour, 03 August 2011 - 08:36 PM.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 03 August 2011 - 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(Detour @ Aug 3 2011, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wherever else she gets released... it won't be regular retail.

Zarana's classic look is THE worst of the 80s. She's as dated as it gets with GIJoe.

To be fair, that is pretty much true of ALL the dreadnoks in their classic looks.

Here's a question I've been wondering:
Why are 12" figures back again this year?

They did poorly in 2008. They did poorly in 2009. So why bring them pack instead of offering more items in the more popular 4" range?

I know the reason is probably because Darryl Depriest is a 12" fan, but I haven't seen Hasbro's 12" stuff do well at retail since 2003 and I'm betting this attempt will be another two wave flop.

I'm sure TJ Maxx looks forward to the business. When someone actually buys one.
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Posted 04 August 2011 - 06:52 AM

Yeah, that's what frustrates me. We get someone continually pushing their own failed agenda time and again siphoning funds away from the part of the line that at least performs consistently. That is another good question slightly reworded:

Q: While lines like "Max Steel" are popular in other countries, the large format figures have not done well Stateside for some time. What makes this current round of twelve inch figures different from the previous and numerous unsuccessful attempts over the last few years to revive this scale in the US market?

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 08:07 AM

Here's a question:

Hasbro's Marvel toylines in recent years have featured small vehicles like bikes, ATVs and even small dune buggies that either feature pull and roll action or pop-out weapons. These types of vehicles do have their place in military environments. With larger GIJoe vehicles, and even smaller Alpha Class ones, being in smaller demand, has Hasbro ever considered making such smaller vehicles for the GIJoe brand?
(Seriously, I would buy the hell out of small vehicles like that)

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 09:16 AM

QUOTE(Detour @ Aug 4 2011, 08:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's a question:

Hasbro's Marvel toylines in recent years have featured small vehicles like bikes, ATVs and even small dune buggies that either feature pull and roll action or pop-out weapons. These types of vehicles do have their place in military environments. With larger GIJoe vehicles, and even smaller Alpha Class ones, being in smaller demand, has Hasbro ever considered making such smaller vehicles for the GIJoe brand?
(Seriously, I would buy the hell out of small vehicles like that)



Better question:

Hasbro's Marvel toylines in recent years have featured an assortment of vehicles like bikes, jet packs, ATVs, small dune buggies, jeeps, and headquarters facilities. These types of vehicles do have their place in military environments. What is the likelihood of seeing these items repurposed for the G. I. Joe line, especially the smaller released-on-card vehicles?




(Anyone else think that Captain America's combat jeep is a better VAMP than the VAMP we got last year?)
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#66 Detour

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 09:55 AM

No. Cap's Jeep doesn't even have a steering wheel.

And also, Hasbro can't just nab whatever they want off their licensed lines and toss em in their own lines.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:06 AM

QUOTE(Spark @ Aug 3 2011, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Aug 3 2011, 07:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The last few waves of Joes after the Arctic Destro wave have been completely unfindable at retail here. And I've looked. A lot. It's hard to purchase something that you never see on the shelf at Target, Walmart, or ToyRus. I would resort to HasbroToyShop but even they seem to mostly have full cases when they have anything at all. I want to give you my money: is there anything Hasbro can do to make that possible? Would it at least be possible to make sure Hasbro Toy Shop has a decent size stock of individual figures from each wave?
I have to reiterate this question since, while I'd love to throw my money at Hasbro for all the neat figures I've seen online for 2011... I've only ever seen them online, never at retail. Arctic Destro killed distribution apparently in my whole state dead as a doornail.

But--and I say this with no disrespect intended--it's a bad question. Distribution questions are common and get rote answers. Hasbro doesn't control what the retailers do. This one asks about a specific online outlet, apparently under the mistaken impression that Hasbro DOES control their stock directly.

Once again, if you're already willing to go online (and you can find them online, as you admit), how/why are you not getting the figures? Go where they are and get them rather than unnecessarily limiting yourself.

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 10:36 PM

Will any other terrorist groups with Hasbro origins (VENOM, MECH, Misfits?) ever join ranks with Cobra and invade store shelves?

How does the GI Joe brand team feel about the Renegade toy designs in regards to future repaints? Could they be used for non-Renegades characters? Or are they too unique?

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 08:44 AM

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How does the GI Joe brand team feel about the Renegade toy designs in regards to future repaints? Could they be used for non-Renegades characters? Or are they too unique?

I don't really understand this question. The Renegades figures are all "real world" versions and many of them are already reusing parts; Duke and Firefly use Resolute legs at least for example. Why wouldn't they repaint/reuse them?
 
 
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Posted 07 August 2011 - 08:59 AM

About 75% of Snake-Eyes's body is reused from Resolute Snake-Eyes, too.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 07 August 2011 - 09:10 AM

Basically I asked because I want Tunnel Rat's rolled up overalls reused one more "casual" figures in the future. Maybe even come up with a way to add another layer to it to make an "off-duty" flight suit.

But... See... Well... I didn't buy the Resolute figures. So I had no idea the Renegades reused their parts.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 09:22 AM

I haven't bought any Resolute toys either. But their parts have been recycled since Rise of Cobra.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 08:06 PM

Yeah, quite a few of the PoC figures use the Resolute legs too. But now I understand. Yeah, Tunnel Rat's outfit might be a tough one to reuse but they've shown a lot of imagination repurposing stuff before so I'll bet they will if they can. I won't be surprised if we see Zarana's torso somehow down the road just b/c it seems crazy to sculpt something that detailed to never use again (though we haven't seen the doughey Slaughter torso again).
 
 
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Posted 08 August 2011 - 08:45 AM

Here are the questions that the Staff selected for the Q&A. There were quite a few good questions generated for this round, so hold onto them. We may get to the next round.

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1) Ever since the movie line, there has seemed to be a major disconnect between the team designing the GI Joe vehicles and the team creating the stickers for them. Again and again, we're seeing decals that don't fit in the spaces where we're told to put them, that are supposed to impossibly lie flat over protruding plastic details, and that are shown in totally different locations between the instructions and the pictures on the boxes. As annoying as this may be for collectors, it must be even more frustrating for kids who are looking for simple directions for completing their toys. How does this keep happening and are any steps being taken to put an end to the phenomenon?

2) Since the revival of the line in 2007, the majority of the original Python Patrol lineup from 1989 has been released in some fashion, either in stores or as exclusives. In contrast, there are a number of figures and vehicles which could be redone in their appropriate Tiger Force, Night Force, Sonic Fighters / Super Sonic Fighters, Sky Patrol, or Slaughter's Marauders colors but which have not been touched. In particular, more than a few eyebrows raised when Wild Bill was packed with the Target-exclusive Tiger Rat instead of its original pilot, Skystriker. Will we potentially see these subsets fleshed out in the future, or has the notion of vintage subset redecoes been put on hiatus for the time being?

3) 12" GI Joe figures take the brand back to its origins, however, it seems like it has been quite a few years since a 12" line managed to thrive at retail. What changes in the market sparked this surprise resurrection?


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Posted 08 August 2011 - 10:20 AM

Wow - you guys made number three sound much more friendly. icon-fire.gif
 
 
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 10:09 AM

Answers!

1) Ever since the movie line, there has seemed to be a major disconnect between the team designing the GI Joe vehicles and the team creating the stickers for them. Again and again, we're seeing decals that don't fit in the spaces where we're told to put them, that are supposed to impossibly lie flat over protruding plastic details, and that are shown in totally different locations between the instructions and the pictures on the boxes. As annoying as this may be for collectors, it must be even more frustrating for kids who are looking for simple directions for completing their toys. How does this keep happening and are any steps being taken to put an end to the phenomenon?

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1) Thanks for your comment on this. Actually, designing the labels is a fairly tricky part of the toy design process. As we look forward to the movie line, we are changing the way we are doing labels, reducing them in number/quantity, and thinking about ways of making them "kid friendly" in application.


2) Since the revival of the line in 2007, the majority of the original Python Patrol lineup from 1989 has been released in some fashion, either in stores or as exclusives. In contrast, there are a number of figures and vehicles which could be redone in their appropriate Tiger Force, Night Force, Sonic Fighters / Super Sonic Fighters, Sky Patrol, or Slaughter's Marauders colors but which have not been touched. In particular, more than a few eyebrows raised when Wild Bill was packed with the Target-exclusive Tiger Rat instead of its original pilot, Skystriker. Will we potentially see these subsets fleshed out in the future, or has the notion of vintage subset redecoes been put on hiatus for the time being?

3) 12" GI Joe figures take the brand back to its origins, however, it seems like it has been quite a few years since a 12" line managed to thrive at retail. What changes in the market sparked this surprise resurrection?


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3) The brand team realized that in this day and age, more kids than ever have family members or people they know involved in the armed forces, yet they don't have a way to represent these heroes in play. We decided that it was time to recognize these heroes in toy form and come out with a new line of 12" to represent some of the most dedicated military and civil service heroes we could think of.


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Posted 02 September 2011 - 10:16 AM

No answer for #2 aye?


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Posted 02 September 2011 - 10:33 AM

Nah. That's usually the GI Joe Q&A MO. Ask three questions and they'll pick two of them to answer.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 12:42 PM

Number three kind of sounds like bull to me. It doesn't exactly explain the 12" Snake Eyes and Storm Shadows that went nowhere, and the odd lesser 12" subline from the movie.
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 03:00 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Sep 2 2011, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No answer for #2 aye?


QUOTE(NightViper @ Sep 2 2011, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nah. That's usually the GI Joe Q&A MO. Ask three questions and they'll pick two of them to answer.


Well, that and the fact the question has been asked numerous times in slightly different ways over the last couple of years. It really is just a "will you make figure X" question. I'm glad they ignored it vs the usual, "We're always excited to leave the doors open to future possibilities but no plans for now -stay tuned!"
 
 
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