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@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 11:49 AM)

And I... Have my sarcasm.

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 April 2017 - 11:47 AM)

Search history has changed! Spam forums triumph! And you....you no longer post relevant content!

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 11:46 AM)

Mayhem hazzzz planzzzz.

@  Nutjob R/T : (28 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

Subforums don't die. They wait. And plan.

@  Benbot : (28 April 2017 - 09:44 AM)

Are there any plans to delete or move dead subforums?

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

instead of blackjack, we have dice rolls in the RP and there was an actual card game in another thread.

@  Bass X0 : (28 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

They could start their own Beast Mayhem with Blackjack and Hookers.

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:16 AM)

There's plenty of talented artists in Beast Mayhem! ....though we tend to draw things that can't be posted anyway. :doh

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:15 AM)

I really enjoy the creative sub forums of TFW, though, like their kitbash and fan art forums. The creative forums have lots of talented, friendly people and is an active, supportive community.

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:13 AM)

Gotta agree with Evac... TFW has a lot of cool, talented people, but they're overwhelmingly outnumbered by unbearable neckbeards

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".


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Toys that were almost there, but need significant retooling to be just right.


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Posted 04 March 2011 - 12:14 PM

Okay, we all know that RTS, Primes sword handle was too thick and causes stress marks.


When Armada Predacon was released, he got some new tooling to increse the durability of the hinge joints within the chest and other significant places.

We, all know how Universe Galvatron for example, pops apart like nobodies business. Yet, we probably won't get a voyager for years and he's a healthy size to Cyclonus, Scourge, and Rodimus. Despite being too short among other figures.

I've always felt why not have the figure retooled to have some more hinged joints. Instead of those pop in joints. So none of his parts break off during Transformation. I like him at his size. And, considering Thunderwing and RTS Prime. I have this feeling deluxes will eventually be getting smaller anyways.

So if there was one toy I'd like retooled for more durability, and to fix significant problems. It would be Galvatron. The joints on the backpack could be held toghether with metal pins. Also, the squared pegs the backpack locks into. Those could be retooled as well to actually connect properly and hold the back pack like they were supposed too.

I figure they can even fix the the ball joint on the left arm. As well as the two shins that constantly pop off from the legs.


Well, thats at least the "one" toy i'd like to see retooled.



Also, I think TM Megatron deserves this treatment. He could get a showaccurate head. As well as golden disks and a clasp to hold them in his back. Maybe mordern open sculpt hands?

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 12:20 PM

I don't think Universe 2.0 Galvatron is a good enough toy all around to be worth putting the work into saving him. If something was going to be remolded either way, I'd rather see those remolding dollars go toward new parts to make a toy like WFC Megatron into a good Galvatron, like a new head, chest, and cannon barrel. I think that would be way more satisfying than merely making an unpopular toy slightly less of a mess.
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Posted 04 March 2011 - 12:30 PM

Armada Predacon was remolded besides the minicon pegs? Huh.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 12:37 PM

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Armada Predacon was remolded besides the minicon pegs? Huh.


Yes, he was remolded for some extra durability in some of the hinge joints.

Thats, especially why I'd love a TM Megatron colors re-releases. The minicons could just be repackaged. Or be sold as toys in his ship quarters.


http://www.cybertron...edacon tutorial Razorsaw this gives you an idea of what the new toolings are.


Well, yeah J I realize it won't happen. But I mostly made this thread for fun anyways. So, it's what I'd like to see even if it isn't a logical idea.

Edited by MonsterFromMars, 04 March 2011 - 12:49 PM.


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Posted 04 March 2011 - 12:54 PM

QUOTE(MonsterFromMars @ Mar 4 2011, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Armada Predacon was remolded besides the minicon pegs? Huh.


Yes, he was remolded for some extra durability in some of the hinge joints.

Thats, especially why I'd love a TM Megatron colors re-releases. The minicons could just be repackaged. Or be sold as toys in his ship quarters.



Well, yeah J I realize it won't happen. But I mostly made this thread for fun anyways. So, it's what I'd like to see even if it isn't a logical idea.

Or make a new Minicon of the Pred ship. That woukld be awesome.

...well, now I know what I want for the next BW anniversary that Hasbro does anything for. Of course, I'd rather them give us new molds instead. Is it to much to ask for a Rattrap toy that doesn't suck?

Edited by Blade Raider, 04 March 2011 - 12:57 PM.


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Posted 04 March 2011 - 01:06 PM

Cybertron Crumplezone a better head little bit smaller and better henges for the wings and just a few more design details would make him perfect

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 01:21 PM

The most significant retooling I found for Armada Predacon is the size of the elbow joint. You can't use TM Megatron's forearms with Predacon's upper arms (at least not without some sort of modding).

I didn't check the linked thread fully yet, though I have two customs of that mold (one TM Megatron, one "night ops" Megatron).
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Posted 04 March 2011 - 01:48 PM

Too many to name, but there are a lot of TFs lately who could easily have had waist joints but did not. Smolder jumps up off the top of my head.

Armada Megatron and Sideways both could have been much better by the inclusion of knee joints (And elbows in SW's case)

A lot of Beast Era toys would have benefitted from less absurd grimaces on their faces...
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Posted 04 March 2011 - 01:58 PM

I'm surprised that Masterpiece Megatron hasn't been mentioned. Obviously, the head could have been better. The scope could have been smaller.

All that, and I'd like his arms slightly modified, so that he can turn them in front of his chest. If only the part that lets you rotate his wrists was opposite. Then he's be able to (somewhat) rotate his arms in front of his chest.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(MonsterFromMars @ Mar 4 2011, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Armada Predacon was remolded besides the minicon pegs? Huh.


Yes, he was remolded for some extra durability in some of the hinge joints.

Thats, especially why I'd love a TM Megatron colors re-releases. The minicons could just be repackaged. Or be sold as toys in his ship quarters.



Well, yeah J I realize it won't happen. But I mostly made this thread for fun anyways. So, it's what I'd like to see even if it isn't a logical idea.

Or make a new Minicon of the Pred ship. That woukld be awesome.

...well, now I know what I want for the next BW anniversary that Hasbro does anything for. Of course, I'd rather them give us new molds instead.

This.

Though I would be happy with just the Predacon mold in Megatron colours.

On topic, it would have been nice if the TM2 Megatron dragon neck wasn't that wierd floppy mess that it is. Maybe have it be ball jointed like TM Megatron's tail.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 02:11 PM

Oh yeah, Armada Megatron's a good point. Wish he had knees. Tidal Wave too. And of course, the US Tidal Wave colors are pretty bad.
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Posted 04 March 2011 - 04:41 PM

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And of course, the US Tidal Wave colors are pretty bad.

What's wrong with them?

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 04 March 2011 - 04:47 PM

If you gave Armada Tidal Wave working knees I would marry him.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 05:48 PM

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 06:58 PM

Perceptor's backpack peg sucks hard.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 07:49 PM

It'd take some pretty insignificant retooling for 25th Anniversary Hound/Ravage to be the best toy of the last several years. Just a few millimeters of plastic added or removed here and there to make the missile launcher fit on Hound's shoulder, to stop his head from flopping around, and to make Ravage fit inside Soundwave's tape deck without excessive force.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 09:25 PM

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And of course, the US Tidal Wave colors are pretty bad.

What's wrong with them?

I just feel that the colors of the Armada cartoon and of the Japanese release of the figure are far better.
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Posted 04 March 2011 - 10:05 PM

If they do ever retool the TM Megatron toy. They can completely forego the handle to his tail cutlass. Just make a slot for his fist to slide into. It'd be so much better.


Oh and as for the new toolings the shoulders, elbows, insides of the chest panels, joints connecting the VTOL fans were all retooled. I think there's more than that though.


But I'd like even more new tooling, working roller blades, new head, new handle for the cutlass that let's the hand slot in, golden disks with slots to hold them. And adding even more sturdiness to the arms and vest panels.


There's really no point for an all new mold. They can just remove those minicons and add other features instead.



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Posted 04 March 2011 - 11:22 PM

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And of course, the US Tidal Wave colors are pretty bad.

What's wrong with them?

I just feel that the colors of the Armada cartoon and of the Japanese release of the figure are far better.

Fair, but I don't think that makes the Hasbro version bad.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 08:35 AM

movie wreckage needs some way to clip his gun joint to his back, so his arms stay in place. and Dropkick needs more pegs for his shoulders.

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