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@  RichardT1977 : (22 August 2017 - 10:56 PM)

Got some good views of the buildup, though (through certified filter glasses, of course)

@  RichardT1977 : (22 August 2017 - 10:56 PM)

I was in the zone of totality when the eclipse came. Unfortunately, I was also in the zone of cloud cover.

@  Evac : (22 August 2017 - 07:41 PM)

the one Bon Jovi song I unironically enjoy

@  Evac : (22 August 2017 - 07:41 PM)

Blaze of Glory

@  Telly : (22 August 2017 - 07:24 PM)

was out at walmart early and ran into an old family friend. my phone was playing "blaze of glory" by bon jovi, she said she hadnt heard it for a long time. i said i like old music, its better than the crap they put out today. is this how OUR parents felt about our music?

@  unluckiness : (22 August 2017 - 09:44 AM)

Nah, they could tell by the lack of the very distinctive dialogue delivery. They just didn't want to be mean.

@  Dracula : (22 August 2017 - 08:42 AM)

Moon base is fine. I knew the castle was a total loss so I gave Olrox my best cape and told him he could have the throne room. The damn belmonts couldn't tell the difference

@  Pennpenn : (22 August 2017 - 06:39 AM)

It's probably because that's a direct quote rather than an attempt to self censor

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 August 2017 - 06:26 AM)

"shit" isn't filtered anymore

@  Donocropolis : (22 August 2017 - 05:51 AM)

Elvis doesn't do sh*t.

@  Pennpenn : (22 August 2017 - 03:38 AM)

Fine, though Elvis has a bit of a headache.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 August 2017 - 03:27 AM)

How's his moon base?

@  Waspinator : (21 August 2017 - 11:02 PM)

Thankfully, Dracula's castle didn't escape the eclipse this time.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:41 PM)

In retaliation, President Trump threatens to nuke the moon.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:40 PM)

This just in: ISIS claims responsibility for the eclipse.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Which left like a hundred disappointed middle schoolers.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Where I'm located got 95% eclipse. Which lacked a worthwhile climax. I really should have driven into it, but I planned on going to my science teacher wife's school thing that got cancelled last minute.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 August 2017 - 03:44 PM)

I was considering trying to get the day off for it and driving down south to the US far enough that I could see the total eclipse, but after looking into it it seems like there's another total eclipse coming up in 2024 where the totality will be visible just 45 minutes south-west of me, so I figure I'll wait it out

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 03:30 PM)

don't worry, social media didn't.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2017 - 02:59 PM)

shoot... I forgot all about the eclipse.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2017 - 02:36 PM)

lewd

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 01:30 PM)

i wanted a peek at the sun's peak too.

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 01:02 PM)

Just caught a peak of the 'bitten' sun. COOL!!

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 12:46 PM)

I got my cereal box eclipse viewer ready. Hopefully these clouds part...

@  Dracula : (21 August 2017 - 09:44 AM)

well I'm supposed to be permanently sealed in a dimensional rift today so I've gotta stay on guard

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 09:38 AM)

Any of you nerds going outside today?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2017 - 07:52 AM)

"Would have been?" Isn't he still on the Batgirl thing?

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2017 - 07:46 AM)

It probably wouldn't be worse but it sure would have been really samey to everything else he's done.

@  Paladin : (21 August 2017 - 06:42 AM)

i am still not convinced he could do a worse job with Batgirl than Bruce Timm already did.

@  Pennpenn : (21 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

The thing to remember about Madman is that they are often more enthusiastic than they are reliable.

@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.


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Posted 15 February 2011 - 10:20 PM

We've already seen Frenzy & Rumble way back when they were first added, but now we have pictures of Scourge, G2 Optimus, and Wheeljack.

Scourge has stripes all the way down his wings, red windows, metallic paint on his chest, a Decepticon symbol on the center of his chest (rather than his left breast), red eyes, lighter gray for the hands, darker gray for the gun, more pink finger nails.





G2 Optimus has clear blue instead of clear orange, no blue in vehicle mode, though he retains the flames the red does fade into black on some areas, different paint apps on the shoulders, red paint biceps, red details on his knees, G1 Autobot symbol on the side of the truck, silver painted gas tank area.





Wheeljack has metallic green paint, more elaborate stripe detailing on his chest, more green on the side of the car. There may be more differences, but it's hard to tell with neither figure being released yet.





Note the pictures of Frenzy & Rumble on Amazon.co.jp have always been of the United version since they've been in color.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 10:26 PM

I'll probably go for Scourge because the fairly subtle differences kind of work to just barely set him apart from some Sweeps, but I'm disappointed the differences aren't a little more significant.

I'm... surprised honestly how much better United G2 Prime ended up looking, but heck if I'm gonna pay an import markup for THAT mold... I bet that blue will light-pipe a LOT stronger than the orange.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 10:26 PM

I MUST HAVE THAT LASER PRIME!!!

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 15 February 2011 - 10:37 PM

Yeah I like Scourge and G2 Optimus better for sure. Wheeljack is pretty much the same. Depends if you like the chest better on the United or not, and/or if you like the metallic green (though other changes may be present that we can't see at this point/don't know).

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 10:38 PM

These look awesome!
I especially like the added paint apps on Scourge and Wheeljack.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 10:44 PM

Here's a comparison of the Scourge's using the photo from http://www.tfwiki.net.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 10:48 PM

I personally like Generations Wheeljack more. The metallic green stripes don't look right to me, and I like the shape of Hasbro's striping pattern more. The way the green carries up from the sides over the roof in a more uniform manner actually looks more boring to me than how the Generations version's are arranged.

Scourge is a rather lateral move, although the full wing stripes are certainly nice.

Prime is definitely the most improved here.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 10:49 PM

Interesting how Scourge is actually a very light blue like the original toy and the G1 cartoon.

Here's the Wheeljack comparison.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 10:53 PM

And here's Prime with the photos from TFWiki.net again.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 10:59 PM

I'm really digging the more G1 cartoon scheme on Scourge, I didn't think they could do so besides pinker nails, but the white hands, stomach, and bluer facial hair do it. Also it appears they threw away trying to color the gun that looks like Fracas like Fracas and instead colored it like his original gun.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 11:04 PM

Don't like the metallic chest on Scourge. To me, it negates what little good the full stripes do (To me, both Scourges are rather pathetically plain in vehicle mode. SO the stripes don't wow me or annoy me, in the case of Hasbro's.).

United G2 Prime is definitely a big improvement...But I think I prefer the orange windows over the blue. Not sure if I'm willing to pay import prices for him...

Wheeljack, again, I don't care for the metallic paint. I mean, I like metallic paint, I just don't like how Wheeljack and Scourge use it. I think on Wheeljack I would have preferred for him to get the Tracks treatment and have all the white be a flaked pearl as his metallic paint.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 11:06 PM

undoubtibly they all look really nice, I've been anticipating seeing the pictures for a while now.
That being Said I think I'm gonna pass on them.
Seeing Scourge all shiny made me realize how he's gonna clash when paired up With Galvy & Cyclonus (and let's face it, that's where he's going to spend most of his time). I think he would look weird being the only one who's shiny like he's the most important of the trio icon-fire.gif I'm gonna stick with my Hasbro version there.

G2 Prime, I have G2 Prime, and I'll be honest, I like him a lot! And I think the Blue light piping is a neat touch, very "autobot", but I like the Orange Light Piping on the Hasbro version, It makes him "Pop" Visually, and it makes him look more powerful when he Glows (literally filled with Burning Justice icon-megs.gif ) Still... If the price was right... I wouldn't say no...

Wheeljack... Eh! paint scheme's not different enough to justify the Cost, Hasbro wins again!


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Posted 15 February 2011 - 11:08 PM

Is it just me or are these (or at least Prime) photoshopped?

I dunno... the clear on Prime looks photoshopped. But I'm no expert.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 15 February 2011 - 11:09 PM

My problem is I can't display United Scourge with C@C Cyclonus and Galvatron, but only with the Henkei versions, so my OCD disallows me to display my favorite versions of each figure together. icon-fire.gif icon-ball.gif icon-blitz.gif

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 11:10 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Feb 15 2011, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is it just me or are these (or at least Prime) photoshopped?

I dunno... the clear on Prime looks photoshopped. But I'm no expert.

Yeah, it's not an actual product photo at this point so that's natural. To me it looks painted or digitally altered over a flat color (not clear). Besides the windows that is.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 11:14 PM

But I was told in no uncertain terms that Takara's G2 Prime wouldn't have flames because they love us more!

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 11:21 PM

You were lied to! icon-fire.gif

What's surprising is the deco on Wheeljack's hood is very similar and based on the same design, but are different. Hasbro's is rounder and meets in the middle while TakaraTomy's is more rectangular and doesn't meet in the middle.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 11:22 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Feb 15 2011, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is it just me or are these (or at least Prime) photoshopped?

I dunno... the clear on Prime looks photoshopped. But I'm no expert.


Yeah. It'll be interesting to see what the final toy looks like, and how well his light piping works. So far I greatly prefer the Hasbro versions of all of these, but the Optimus has some potential.


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Posted 15 February 2011 - 11:23 PM

Prime does look nicer with the blue taken away in vehicle mode, though it never bothered me before. I guess distribution being so bad saved me some money on that one. The other subtle detailing changes are nice, and maybe you'll actually be able to see the Matrix in his chest on this version.

I'll still get some Hasbro Scourges to use as Sweeps though. I think I might like Hasbro's Wheeljack better, because I like his shade of green and the stripe pattern on the chest more. I'm a sucker for painted car detailing though, so we'll see how that goes.

Who wants to place bets on what shades of white the two versions will use on Wheeljack? icon-arcee.gif

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 11:26 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 15 2011, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But I was told in no uncertain terms that Takara's G2 Prime wouldn't have flames because they love us more!

It might still.... These are just shoopdawhooped and suchlike.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.