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@  Cyoti : (01 July 2020 - 12:51 PM)

We can deport Yogi back to Canada now.

@  Sabrblade : (01 July 2020 - 12:50 PM)

Jellystone National Pawk. A westful wetweat.

@  Rycochet : (01 July 2020 - 12:47 PM)

Jellystone. We're going to be plunged into a decade of poor animation. Fortunately we've been led by bad cartoon characters for years so we won't notice much difference.

@  Maximus Ambus : (01 July 2020 - 06:19 AM)

what next? YELLOWSTONE?

@  Nevermore : (01 July 2020 - 05:46 AM)

Thanks, dead person.

@  Bass X0 : (01 July 2020 - 05:06 AM)

congratulations to all survivors of the first half of 2020.

@  wonko the sane? : (30 June 2020 - 10:21 PM)

21 for me, but after numerous repetitions I got it down to 17 and a half.

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 June 2020 - 06:16 PM)

I transform in six steps from human to human sitting on my ass at the computer and back again!

@  -LittleAutob... : (30 June 2020 - 05:55 PM)

x-x when in vehicle mode we can travel much F A R T H E R-

@  wonko the sane? : (30 June 2020 - 05:52 PM)

Because despite the fact that we can travel around the world in the time it takes to get a good nights sleep and a couple of meals: people rarely wander more than 25 miles away from home for the duration of their lives.

@  Otaku : (30 June 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I don't know how many days that trip takes - especially while sightseeing - but explaining they're 3936 kilometers (2445 miles) apart gives an idea, paradoxically because it is too large to easily picture.

@  Otaku : (30 June 2020 - 05:44 PM)

Aye.  When I catch lay people discussing miles and not how long the trip takes, it is in an attempt to stress how far away something is... like NYC to LA.

@  ▲ndrusi : (30 June 2020 - 01:20 PM)

But I can imagine 45 *minutes* easily.

@  ▲ndrusi : (30 June 2020 - 01:20 PM)

I can imagine a mile, it's a distance I've run. I can't really imagine 45 miles.

@  ▲ndrusi : (30 June 2020 - 01:19 PM)

I think there's also an element of the thing where things that are much bigger than us all blur together.

@  Otaku : (30 June 2020 - 11:49 AM)

If you're not, then you're more concerned with how long it takes.  Actual distance doesn't tell you that very well.  Besides traffic and road conditions, you'll need to know what kind of driving (city/interstate/rural/etc.).

@  Otaku : (30 June 2020 - 11:47 AM)

Distance matters if you're being paid by the mile.

@  TM2-Megatron : (30 June 2020 - 11:44 AM)

Canadians are the same way, for the most part. If you're driving somewhere far, especially, it helps you plan out the day more than a distance in KM would.

@  Otaku : (30 June 2020 - 11:42 AM)

We use the time it takes to get someplace because that is what is relevant to us.

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 June 2020 - 10:55 AM)

Because even we can't figure out miles half the time.

@  Paladin : (30 June 2020 - 09:54 AM)

it's a big country with a lot of empty space. between our citizens' ears.

@  Bass X0 : (30 June 2020 - 09:52 AM)

Why do most Americans measure distance by hours of driving?

@  TM2-Megatron : (29 June 2020 - 07:26 PM)

And as a result the world's lone blu-ray release of the film, an Australian disc that came out 7 years ago, now goes for hundreds of dollars on eBay. Thanks Disney.

@  TM2-Megatron : (29 June 2020 - 06:21 PM)

Well, they censored Daryl Hannah's butt in Splash :rolleyes

@  Paladin : (29 June 2020 - 05:43 PM)

maybe New Mutants is too bad even for D+.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 June 2020 - 05:00 PM)

X-Men films are coming to Disney+ next month. But will they censor Hugh Jackman's butt?

@  -LittleAutob... : (29 June 2020 - 12:44 PM)

Pft.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 June 2020 - 11:59 AM)

Behold! Night Strike Galvatron!

@  Bass X0 : (29 June 2020 - 09:53 AM)

I will grant you a recolored body, and recolored troops to command.

@  Cybersnark : (29 June 2020 - 09:47 AM)

I don't want to be reissued. This body sucks, I wanna be updated.

@  Nevermore : (29 June 2020 - 09:43 AM)

I definitely don't intend to be reissued. Nobody would buy me.

@  Bass X0 : (29 June 2020 - 08:31 AM)

will anybody else attempt to be reissued?

@  wonko the sane? : (29 June 2020 - 07:51 AM)

*Gasp* Decepticons re-writing history to serve their own needs?!?!

@  Nevermore : (29 June 2020 - 05:48 AM)

The whole point of the DJD is that they're fanatical Megatron fanboys (especially Tarn) to the point of having their own headcanon taking priority of the actual canon, simply speaking.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 June 2020 - 04:01 AM)

They didn't know the war was over until later. And then they denied it anyway.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (28 June 2020 - 10:47 PM)

"He's comin' right for us!"

@  Telly : (28 June 2020 - 08:40 PM)

was that even still in effect once the war ended?

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 June 2020 - 06:51 PM)

According to Roberts, soldiers can ignore the order to spare Whirl if he's directly threatening them. But mostly the DJD were out of their heads on Nuke and not really caring much at the time.

@  Xaaron : (28 June 2020 - 06:41 PM)

Also, they were hopped up on goofballs at the time.

@  wonko the sane? : (28 June 2020 - 06:06 PM)

Cause it was whirl. He opened his (non-existant.) gob at the just the right time to piss somebody off. Or, so I assume.

@  Maximus Ambus : (28 June 2020 - 06:00 PM)

If Whirl was off limits why did the DJD kill him?

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 June 2020 - 05:57 PM)

That sounds about right. I actually didn't get into it until the IQ expansion came out (which saved me a bit of expense)

@  Otaku : (27 June 2020 - 05:55 PM)

Weird question (and sorry for so many shouts): did Overpower really release in August of '95?  I could have sworn I attempted to play it with a classmate who shouldn't have been a classmate by that point.

@  Otaku : (27 June 2020 - 05:52 PM)

So... I don't have all my cards still somewhere. XP I still play Pokémon via the PTCGO, and I've been doing Card of the Days over on Pojo (on and off) since 2013.

@  Otaku : (27 June 2020 - 05:51 PM)

For both financial, personal, and practical reasons, all my collectibles had to go about 10 years ago: action figures, comic books, card games, RPG books, video games.

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 June 2020 - 05:48 PM)

I've still got all my cards, somewhere; I had a pretty decent collection. Still have the Japanese Digimon CCG, too. Glad I never got into Magic; way too pricey

@  Otaku : (27 June 2020 - 05:36 PM)

Technically, Overpower was my first TCG... except I never, ever learned how to play it, or understood that booster packs contained different cards than the Starter Decks.

@  Otaku : (27 June 2020 - 05:35 PM)

Can't forget what you didn't know in the first place.

@  Patch : (27 June 2020 - 05:28 PM)

Ah yes, Overpower. Who could forget the expansion where they added a new stat and you had to re-collect your heroes all over again.

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 June 2020 - 04:20 PM)

Counterpoint, when was the last time you spent money on Overpower?


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#41 Pennpenn

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 04:21 AM

I've never had either of my hunters be dumb enough to shoot through walls to pull adds, but they have on occasion decided to fire on random targets. Kind of frustrating.

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 07:19 PM

And the fun has begun again. I soloed Heroic Halls of Reflection today on my dk..blood spec, full 2h frost dps gear. Using the new glyph, no real reason to go into blood presence that I can find. the heal is big, the resulting blood shield is big, being 85 puts you crit immune to everything anyway. More soloing in the future.

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 10:14 AM

Nice, VP. Sounds like fun. icon-hotrod.gif

Speaking of DK's, I knocked the dust off mine late last week. Frost still hits like a truck. And with guild exp bonuses and the heirloom cloak, she is absolutely flying though levels. She hit 82 after only 65 Cata-level quests (and clears of BRC and VP). After she hit 82, she was consistently pushing 5.5-6K in instances, which I considered solid (seeing as how I was out dpsing and damaging higher level toons).

So with a surplus of cash on hand, I decided to powerlevel her Alchemy. She's now an 83, nabbed the neck, ring, and legs from VP, and has a shiny new Alchemist's stone (in addition to the always-on 80 strength elixir from alchemy). She has an absurd 3400 strength with Horn up and is doing over 8K in instances, hitting 10K on bosses about half the time. I think I'm in love. I literally can't wait to get her to 85 and into heroics.
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:11 PM

Had a productive weekend. We actually managed to get TB on Saturday night, so we ran in and destroyed Argoloth. No drops, but at this point he has nothing for me anyway.

On Sunday we went back to Cho'gall. I wasn't sure how we were going to do, but we hit P2 in the first attempt with no issues. A few more tries and then we ended up four shotting him! Unfortunately he dropped the dagger and our Rogue wasn't there. I did managed to make a movie of the fight too.



Afterwards we visited Al'akir. Now that fight is pretty annoying, as there are many instant rng gibs. We did manage to get him to 42%, pretty good for going in there not really knowing what to expect.



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Posted 21 February 2011 - 07:00 PM

Grats on the Cho'gall kill. We got him to 15% on 25 man this week. Hopefully he dies soon. Him and Nef are all I need for the Defender title. I couldn't tell fromt eh vid but did you go with 3 tanks or two and a kiter?

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 09:36 PM

Sarth 10 man soloed...had to get a guildy to help with Shadron since he bugs, but all the other drakes and trash died easily.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 03:03 AM

QUOTE(-VP- @ Feb 21 2011, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Grats on the Cho'gall kill. We got him to 15% on 25 man this week. Hopefully he dies soon. Him and Nef are all I need for the Defender title. I couldn't tell fromt eh vid but did you go with 3 tanks or two and a kiter?


Thanks! We used two tanks, two healers and just standard AoE'ing, along with a couple of knock backs. The DPS constraints are very tight here. We tried a few different combinations before got one that worked, that being have our Resto Druid got Boomkin, as even though our Shammy usually goes Enhance on 2 heal fights, needing to get those slimes down asap is that important. The one of the problems with this fight is that sometimes you can get a really bad Worship, and the slimes will be right on you. With them being a huge source of corrupted blood, things can get hectic getting them down. Phase 2 is actually not that bad if you keep interrupts on the tentacles. Sunbeam, Typhoon, Avenging Shield are all great there if you get Cho'gall into one of the little cubbies, since the tentacles are then all grouped up. The main thing in that phase is the amount of damage being put out is insane, the healers are under a huge amount of pressure here. I vated our Shammy and his mana bar pretty much stayed at the same percentage while the vate was on him before crashing again. Took us about a minute and a half and that was the breaking point, a few more seconds and it would have been a wipe.

It does show off one of the reasons why I am not so fond of this fight, composition is just so restrictive here, it really is dangerously going towards "bring the class not the player" on a normal mode fight, even if he is an end boss. Probably the main reason I am not minding' learning Al'akir, I fully expect to die in main cheap ways, but that is all mechanics, so you can pretty much bring any group to it.

We also unlocked the ability to do Hard Modes in BoT, but I am really hesitant to start those. Most of them in 10 are pretty much mathematically impossible, and I don't want to put the raid through something like that. That being said, Halfus should be doable, when we get some more upgrades.

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Posted 23 February 2011 - 08:52 AM

Our team leader's wife had babies! She gave birth to twins yesterday early in the morning. They were very premature and are in NICU, but word is that mom and babies are doing well. Nevertheless, I'm guessing that dad will be spending a lot more time with babies than he will healing his favorite Paladin Tank, even after the babies come home form the hospital.

So it looks like yours truly has inherited a raid team.

Although to be honest, the word from many of the team members is that it's been my team for several weeks. icon-fire.gif

So we had our most successful raid night last night. 2-shot Magmaw (should have been a 1-shot, but our Enh shaman had a glitch during chains, was thrown, and had Magmaw disappeared ><), 1-shot Omnitron, got Maloriak down on what was really only our second day working on him, and went and 1-shot Halfus. As the icing on the cake, we got yet another epic trash drop, the tank gun-which made our warrior very happy. We are looking at Atrimedes and Conclave for thursday. I got some really nice whispers from various people on the team patting me on the back for my job as new team leader. It felt really damn good, especially after the issues we had when we were just starting raiding. We are on one hell of a roll, and I'm actually looking forward to raiding each week.

And for the record, we have an official raid song. It's Benny Lava. Youtube it. You will be physically incapable of being in a bad mood starting a raid after listening to that.

Edited by Big Show, 23 February 2011 - 09:07 AM.

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Posted 23 February 2011 - 11:31 PM

Cho'Gal 25 down, woot!



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Posted 24 February 2011 - 08:17 AM

Congrats, VP!

The DK class is officially insane. I hit 85 on mine last night. There was a heroic group forming in guild. I joked "once I have another 5 points in avg ilvl, I'm game!". I then get a group invite. So instead of being a good little dead girl and farming/crafting gear to hit 329, I promptly hit the AH and bought the cheapest 339 PVP gear up there. One Redsteel helm from the guild bank later, and we were in Lost City. icon-hotrod.gif

I then managed to push 8.6K overall, 10 to 11K on the bosses. In sub-333 blues and greens with no gems or enchants (save for the one red gem in my Alchemist's Stone and my rune on the CoC sword, my only decent pieces aside from the holiday 346 neck). Our tank asked me if I was DW or 2H, and I linked my Ogre Obliterator. He said Unholy was better for 2H, and I explained that I probably wasn't going to bother learning another rotation for a 4th alt as long as I was hitting 16/17K on any given pull. icon-fire.gif

It was a nice run-nabbed boots, tank ring, dps ring, and the Mastery BoE trinket. I'm really looking forward to getting her into more runs and gettign her gear improved to see just how hard I can hit when all is said and done.

But now down to brass tacks. I know I will be trying for a couple of good 1H strength weapons, but I have also heard that 2H Frost was viable. It seems to be serving me pretty damn well thusfar. How do they stack up?
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Posted 24 February 2011 - 08:20 AM

http://www.mmo-champ...-gurub-are-back!


Remnants of the Gurubashi Tribe
Originally released in Patch 1.7, the classic 20-man raid Zul'Gurub will open its gate once again, bringing new stories, new encounters and fully refined items! Zul'Gurub is now a level-85 Heroic 5-man dungeon, to help the Cataclysm dungeons provide a higher tier of contents. Players may find level 353 epic items in this Heroic dungeon. You have to meet a mininum average item level of 346 to enter it.

The Return of Zul'Aman
The fan-favorite level 70 10-man raid Zul'Aman is also reborn as a level-85 Heroic 5-man dungeon. Zul'Aman and Zul'Gurub will both appear in the Heroic Dungeon list in the LFD tool, providing level 353 epic loot. You also have to meet a mininum average item level of 346 to enter.

Since Zul'Aman is back, you might be curious on whether the rare mounts will be back? Yes, we're proud to annouce that new rare-drop Raptor, Tiger and Warbear mount will be available, while the old mounts still have their unique beauty in hand. We will share a lot more on obtaining the new mounts.


hmmm.. i might come back O:

#52 Big Show

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 08:25 AM

Oh, yeah. Forgot to mention the ZA and ZG news. I'm really stoked about that. Of course the revelation about the mounts is incredibly exciting. Probably the most attractive element of adding the dungeons. But honestly, I'm almost as excited about the addition of 353 epics to heroics and the idea of having more 'new' content. The new dungeons are fine, but they are frankly boring at this point with everyone knowing the fights and being geared enough to overcome mistakes. They are old hat. Save for Deadmines, of course. That place can do no wrong in my eyes. icon-fire.gif

Edited by Big Show, 24 February 2011 - 08:31 AM.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 08:28 AM

the new Ragnaros...is kinda laughable in my opinion XD TINY STUBBY LEGS!

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 09:19 AM

Starting to see the downsides of a small F&F type guild. One of the few tanks thats ever around is frankly.. not that great. They dont mark, they refuse to use DBM because its a "crutch", dosnt have a mic, and flubs up encounters on even non-heroic cata content despite being almost raid geared. But you try and bring it up to anyone and its all just swept under the rug because they dont want to hurt the tanks feelings. We've been doing ICC for practice and ive watched them cause us wipe on the LK fight so many times now.. and of course its never their fault. Its the healers or its people for not calling out in chat tht they have the plague or are being carried away. Its just gotten tiresome.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 09:46 AM

That's a tough spot, Murray.

As a tank, you need to be comfortable with *all* the pressure squarely on your shoulders. Many tanks develop big heads because like it or not, we have the most responsibility in pretty much anything we do. A good tank can get many groups through content they probably shouldn't get through, while a bad tank is a group killer.

As I am quickly learning, a 'casual' raid group is a really fine line to walk. Generally it's all friends. So, it makes it very tough to try to correct issues without coming off like a total d-bag. But if you want to be successful, it has to be done. If it's a dpser, you can probably fudge with an underperfomer. The better dps can compensate. Less so with an underperforming healer, but with 3-you can manage. You can't go with a bad tank. Just not happening. You have to decide what the focus of your group is. Are you all content with screwing around and just 'having fun', or do you want to progress through raid bosses? If you want to eventually get into raiding (even on a semi-serious basis), you need to figure out how to approach your tank and get them to figure out their stuff. There is a way to help people improve without coming off like a dick or make it seem that you are coming down on them.

And if your tank can't take constructive criticism, you may want to find a new tank and have that guy run his offspec. Not communicating on Vent and not using DBM are basically unacceptable.

Edited by Big Show, 24 February 2011 - 09:48 AM.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 11:33 AM

QUOTE(Big Show @ Feb 24 2011, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Congrats, VP!

The DK class is officially insane. I hit 85 on mine last night. There was a heroic group forming in guild. I joked "once I have another 5 points in avg ilvl, I'm game!". I then get a group invite. So instead of being a good little dead girl and farming/crafting gear to hit 329, I promptly hit the AH and bought the cheapest 339 PVP gear up there. One Redsteel helm from the guild bank later, and we were in Lost City. icon-hotrod.gif

I then managed to push 8.6K overall, 10 to 11K on the bosses. In sub-333 blues and greens with no gems or enchants (save for the one red gem in my Alchemist's Stone and my rune on the CoC sword, my only decent pieces aside from the holiday 346 neck). Our tank asked me if I was DW or 2H, and I linked my Ogre Obliterator. He said Unholy was better for 2H, and I explained that I probably wasn't going to bother learning another rotation for a 4th alt as long as I was hitting 16/17K on any given pull. icon-fire.gif

It was a nice run-nabbed boots, tank ring, dps ring, and the Mastery BoE trinket. I'm really looking forward to getting her into more runs and gettign her gear improved to see just how hard I can hit when all is said and done.

But now down to brass tacks. I know I will be trying for a couple of good 1H strength weapons, but I have also heard that 2H Frost was viable. It seems to be serving me pretty damn well thusfar. How do they stack up?



I recently went back to 2h frost, mainly because I have been absolutely terrible on one hand weapon drops, but also the unholy presence reduce global makes the spec flow much better. With the upcoming change to Blood of the North (blood runes are permanently death runes as frost) 2h should be able to go back to frost presence, and if they don't revert the damage boost Might of the frozen waste got in 4.0.6, 2h hand should pull just ahead.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 11:48 AM

Great. Thanks for the info, VP.
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Posted 24 February 2011 - 04:46 PM

QUOTE(Goblez @ Feb 24 2011, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.mmo-champ...-gurub-are-back!


Remnants of the Gurubashi Tribe
Originally released in Patch 1.7, the classic 20-man raid Zul'Gurub will open its gate once again, bringing new stories, new encounters and fully refined items! Zul'Gurub is now a level-85 Heroic 5-man dungeon, to help the Cataclysm dungeons provide a higher tier of contents. Players may find level 353 epic items in this Heroic dungeon. You have to meet a mininum average item level of 346 to enter it.

The Return of Zul'Aman
The fan-favorite level 70 10-man raid Zul'Aman is also reborn as a level-85 Heroic 5-man dungeon. Zul'Aman and Zul'Gurub will both appear in the Heroic Dungeon list in the LFD tool, providing level 353 epic loot. You also have to meet a mininum average item level of 346 to enter.

Since Zul'Aman is back, you might be curious on whether the rare mounts will be back? Yes, we're proud to annouce that new rare-drop Raptor, Tiger and Warbear mount will be available, while the old mounts still have their unique beauty in hand. We will share a lot more on obtaining the new mounts.


hmmm.. i might come back O:


Damn.. I was hoping they would wait a little longer before flushing this xpac down the same crapper that WOTLK did. Oh well, my sub isn't going to stay active for much longer.


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Posted 24 February 2011 - 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Goblez @ Feb 24 2011, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.mmo-champ...-gurub-are-back!


Remnants of the Gurubashi Tribe
Originally released in Patch 1.7, the classic 20-man raid Zul'Gurub will open its gate once again, bringing new stories, new encounters and fully refined items! Zul'Gurub is now a level-85 Heroic 5-man dungeon, to help the Cataclysm dungeons provide a higher tier of contents. Players may find level 353 epic items in this Heroic dungeon. You have to meet a mininum average item level of 346 to enter it.

The Return of Zul'Aman
The fan-favorite level 70 10-man raid Zul'Aman is also reborn as a level-85 Heroic 5-man dungeon. Zul'Aman and Zul'Gurub will both appear in the Heroic Dungeon list in the LFD tool, providing level 353 epic loot. You also have to meet a mininum average item level of 346 to enter.

Since Zul'Aman is back, you might be curious on whether the rare mounts will be back? Yes, we're proud to annouce that new rare-drop Raptor, Tiger and Warbear mount will be available, while the old mounts still have their unique beauty in hand. We will share a lot more on obtaining the new mounts.


hmmm.. i might come back O:


Damn.. I was hoping they would wait a little longer before flushing this xpac down the same crapper that WOTLK did. Oh well, my sub isn't going to stay active for much longer.


Care to elaborate on that nonsequiter?

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 05:51 PM

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http://www.mmo-champ...-gurub-are-back!


Remnants of the Gurubashi Tribe
Originally released in Patch 1.7, the classic 20-man raid Zul'Gurub will open its gate once again, bringing new stories, new encounters and fully refined items! Zul'Gurub is now a level-85 Heroic 5-man dungeon, to help the Cataclysm dungeons provide a higher tier of contents. Players may find level 353 epic items in this Heroic dungeon. You have to meet a mininum average item level of 346 to enter it.

The Return of Zul'Aman
The fan-favorite level 70 10-man raid Zul'Aman is also reborn as a level-85 Heroic 5-man dungeon. Zul'Aman and Zul'Gurub will both appear in the Heroic Dungeon list in the LFD tool, providing level 353 epic loot. You also have to meet a mininum average item level of 346 to enter.

Since Zul'Aman is back, you might be curious on whether the rare mounts will be back? Yes, we're proud to annouce that new rare-drop Raptor, Tiger and Warbear mount will be available, while the old mounts still have their unique beauty in hand. We will share a lot more on obtaining the new mounts.


hmmm.. i might come back O:


Damn.. I was hoping they would wait a little longer before flushing this xpac down the same crapper that WOTLK did. Oh well, my sub isn't going to stay active for much longer.


You do realize these are going to be like DM and SFK, right? The new patch has the following achievement related to ZG:

"Gurubashi Headhunter Defeat Gub, Mortaxx, Kaolema, Mor'Lek, the Florawing Hive Queen, a Lost Offspring of Ghaz'Ranka, and the Gurubashi Master Chef in Zul'Gurub on Heroic difficulty."

Those are all new names, with the Lost Offspring of Ghaz'Rank likely being the closest to an old encounter. Last I checked, old ZG did not have anything like a Hivequeen. icon-waspy.gif

Looks like there maybe a ton of bosses per run. These two instances, plus the Abyssal Maw dungeon which looks like it may still be in 4.1, will provide a great way to gear up and fill in gear holes that the stuff moving to the JP vendors do not cover and get everyone set for the Firelands and possible other raid. Something like this is very much needed, as if you look over the current raid loot, there are some gear pieces right now that are very difficult to get. You want epic leather caster bracers? They drop from one boss, and the itemization for them is horrible. The current VP stuff has holes in bracers, hats, shoulders and belts, though in the case of belts at least you can get the crafted options.

ZG coming back is no big shock for anyone who has done STV in the revamped zones. ZA is a bit of a surprise. However, the Heroic revamps of the old dungeons isn't exactly news either, Blizzard mentioned at Blizzcon they were going to be doing more, just different examples were given. At any rate, this also helps add to the number of choices for Valor Points, which are going to still need for T12 equivalent gear.

Edited by Monocle, 24 February 2011 - 05:53 PM.




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