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@  Echowarrior : (23 January 2017 - 09:41 PM)

We don't need a magic wand to make the national debt grow, thanks very much.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2017 - 09:07 PM)

I'd rather have Rita or Zedd. ;)

@  Paladin : (23 January 2017 - 08:28 PM)

Yamcha's power level is higher than Donald's inauguration turnout.

@  Nutjob R/T : (23 January 2017 - 07:12 PM)

#wetsockforpresident

@  RichardT1977 : (23 January 2017 - 05:33 PM)

Yamcha would be a better President than Trump...

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 January 2017 - 03:06 PM)

Damning with faint praise there.

@  Bass X0 : (23 January 2017 - 03:06 PM)

Kodos would be a better president than Trump.

@  Echowarrior : (23 January 2017 - 02:29 PM)

*whipcrack*

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 January 2017 - 02:23 PM)

Don't blame me! I voted for Kodos!

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 January 2017 - 10:01 AM)

No, all the evils people voted for in 2016 were known.

@  Rycochet : (23 January 2017 - 09:35 AM)

Didn't people have enough of voting for unknown evils in 2016? Come on, it's so last year.

@  Robowang : (23 January 2017 - 08:49 AM)

woooo Unknown Evil

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 January 2017 - 08:21 AM)

Jinbu has legs that go all the way up.

@  Rycochet : (23 January 2017 - 07:11 AM)

Unless you really like legs that go all the way up to the armpits.

@  Rycochet : (23 January 2017 - 07:11 AM)

I would say repaint Jinbu from Transformers Go, but let's not, they're just awful.

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2017 - 07:20 AM)

He's samurai themed? Anyway, I meant "samurai themed" in the Bludgeon's Pretender shell sense.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 January 2017 - 07:15 AM)

Armada Starscream?

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2017 - 07:13 AM)

Actually I'm vaguely surprized samurai themed Seekers haven't somehow congealed within the TF brand at some point.

@  Telly : (21 January 2017 - 08:26 PM)

if they dont seek pizza im out

@  Bass X0 : (21 January 2017 - 02:40 PM)

Samurai Seeker Jets!

@  Rycochet : (21 January 2017 - 12:42 PM)

The Big Cheese is the villain, who's lower than low. It's a rotten shame he lives in Little Tokyo.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2017 - 12:38 PM)

For the kaiju/restaurant theme, better be the Samurai Pizza Cats instead.

@  Rycochet : (21 January 2017 - 12:28 PM)

I prefer Mighty Morphin' Meower Rangers.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2017 - 12:07 PM)

Okay, that got too weird, let's just use the Megazordenny's instead.

@  ▲ndrusi : (21 January 2017 - 09:20 AM)

no, no, not all hope for the characters, all hope for the viewer understanding what the hell is going on.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 January 2017 - 07:33 AM)

Isn't that like.. every second spent watching Eva? *hides!*

@  Telly : (21 January 2017 - 02:26 AM)

usually about halfway through, when all hope seems lost

@  Copper Bezel : (21 January 2017 - 02:01 AM)

I understand using Eva to fight monsters, but where does Bob come into it?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2017 - 01:29 AM)

Of course we'll need Bob EVAs to fight all these critters...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2017 - 01:21 AM)

Or Otachipotle.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 January 2017 - 11:03 PM)

Sorry Waspinator, but Sean Bean already reserved that one.

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2017 - 09:51 PM)

Isn't the answer "Pepperoni and Cheese"?

@  Waspinator : (20 January 2017 - 09:12 PM)

"Oh no, not again."

@  The Doctor Who : (20 January 2017 - 08:54 PM)

What do you want on your Tombstone?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (20 January 2017 - 08:52 PM)

I summon Mothrally's to champion the cause of a new/old line of discussion!

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2017 - 07:24 PM)

Fair enough, sorry. Although, I think as more people get upset you're going to see it leaking out more.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2017 - 06:25 PM)

Can the politics stay in P&R? I don't really need an emetic that badly.

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2017 - 05:37 PM)

All of Trump's base are stone cold morons, so there's that. Then again, a lot of people would argue that America has nevr been "great", or even when it is there's plenty to bring down it's score.

@  Vexwing : (20 January 2017 - 04:18 PM)

A lot of Trump's base would probably claim it stopped being great 8 years ago.

@  Locoman : (20 January 2017 - 03:44 PM)

And today is National Cheese Lover's Day, apparently, so perhaps we should make America grate again while we're at it

@  Bass X0 : (20 January 2017 - 03:43 PM)

How long has it not been great for?

@  Nevermore : (20 January 2017 - 02:34 PM)

Finally, America is great again.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 January 2017 - 12:03 PM)

Me too!

@  Arazyr : (20 January 2017 - 10:08 AM)

My daughters and I have been looking forward to that!

@  Benbot : (20 January 2017 - 09:44 AM)

Nevermind that. Today is a day to celebrate, because season 2 of Voltron is up on Netflix!

@  ShadowMan024 : (19 January 2017 - 06:51 PM)

Past 8 years? Try "past 241."

@  Xellos : (19 January 2017 - 06:44 PM)

So basically the same as the past 8 years. Guess that works too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 January 2017 - 06:25 PM)

We as a nation either drank too much or not enough. It's difficult to say, really.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 January 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Isn't America being crazy drunk how we got in this situation in the first place?

@  BlackMax : (19 January 2017 - 04:18 PM)

I plan on being very American about every single injustice our new leader perpetrates ("American" of course meaning "annoyed and loud").


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#1 Exillion

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:20 PM

Topic speaks for itself: while this year's theme is cool, I rather spend the money on retail toys and saving up for Comic Con this year (if they ever get registration up again).

However, I had planned and saved to go to the convention this year, but I am considering three options: (1) not go as the toys are always the pull for me; (2) get the non-toy package (i.e. no dinner, etc.) or (3) get the full Primus package, but sell the main toy set on Ebay, knowing that I have never sold anything off Ebay before.

I guess my question is what are your opinions about Botcon. Is it worth going if what money I am still able to save on toys I get while still retail and the main collector's set is not a real pull for me this year?

I have only been to one other Botcon, and that was for a day, so I haven't really experienced Botcon in its grandeur. Any advice is helpful, because I need to start making arrangements with my office that I will be gone on those days.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:50 PM

Yes. If the toys are the only reason for going, then you need to make some friends icon-hotrod.gif. Room with some people on the boards - the fun begins then!

Even from a purely financial standpoint - popular set or not, you could turn around and resell the set really quickly (even to dealers at the show, or on the "for sale" board in the hotel, screw eBay), for, at minimum, what you paid. But you'll probably be able to come out ahead. So you get BotCon for just the cost of hotel, travel, and food.

Never, ever, buy the non-toy package. Horrible idea.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 04:58 PM


I disagree about the non-toy package, precisely because I have enough friends who go to BC and I've dialed down my collecting interests enough that it means more to me to be at the event longer and have total panel access than it does to get all the toys all the time. At BC08 I paid like $150 to get to go to every panel, didn't get the toys I didn't want in the first place, and thought it was a fine experience.

There are some people who just don't want to deal with the hassle of standing on line to pick up toys they don't want and then re-selling and shipping those same toys they didn't want. If the whole point is to experience the event itself, you are now throwing other considerations and time-wasters in your own way.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 05:31 PM

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ Jan 29 2011, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I disagree about the non-toy package, precisely because I have enough friends who go to BC and I've dialed down my collecting interests enough that it means more to me to be at the event longer and have total panel access than it does to get all the toys all the time. At BC08 I paid like $150 to get to go to every panel, didn't get the toys I didn't want in the first place, and thought it was a fine experience.

There are some people who just don't want to deal with the hassle of standing on line to pick up toys they don't want and then re-selling and shipping those same toys they didn't want. If the whole point is to experience the event itself, you are now throwing other considerations and time-wasters in your own way.


There's only a horrible line if you just HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT NOW OMG. You can show up the next day, or really late on pick-up night, without much, if any line. Then you walk into the dealer room, go to almost any of the big dealers, and especially if you throw in the attendee freebie, and ask for what you paid. No standing in long lines, no shipping.

And while this depends on your circle of friends, but while the pick up line is, in general, horrid, I'm usually in line with friends, which makes the whole thing fun. And even the times when I'm not there with friends, usually you can at least make talking buddies with whoever is around you.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 07:09 PM

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ Jan 29 2011, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I disagree about the non-toy package, precisely because I have enough friends who go to BC and I've dialed down my collecting interests enough that it means more to me to be at the event longer and have total panel access than it does to get all the toys all the time. At BC08 I paid like $150 to get to go to every panel, didn't get the toys I didn't want in the first place, and thought it was a fine experience.

There are some people who just don't want to deal with the hassle of standing on line to pick up toys they don't want and then re-selling and shipping those same toys they didn't want. If the whole point is to experience the event itself, you are now throwing other considerations and time-wasters in your own way.

That's an awful lot of money thrown away just to get an extra day and/or avoid the hassle of re-selling and shipping the toys.

Seriously. Dont want the toys? Get the Primus package anyway. You'll pay so much less at the end of it all (assuming you don't turn a profit, which is easily possible), it's easily worth the hassle.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 07:18 PM

Yeah, I don't have any interest in collecting Animated anymore, but I still want to go because it's a fun trip and a chance to see people I only see once a year, if that. Pasadena was a really nice convention location, so that's an incentive to go back again. I'm probably either going to unload my toys at the convention, or just bring them home and sell them if the price would be a bit better that way.

I'm still really hoping that some of the souvenirs aren't Animated molds, but either way it lowers the convention costs quite a bit from what I usually invest, basically bringing it down to room cost, food (I like to eat out and try good places while I'm in other cities), and some spending money for BSing in the dealer room. I usually buy multiples of all the toys so I can be super picky for my own personal set, so this will make the trip cheaper by a ton, probably.

I'm trying very hard not to have sour grapes for the people excited for the set, because supposedly everyone's tastes are equal and deserve recognition, but it's just not for me. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 12:07 AM

If you don't like the toys, you can always resell them and pay for the trip. I only kept one of the at-show sets from 2008, but had a great time hanging out with people otherwise!

While the sets don't generally get *quite* the insane prices they used to, it's still worth getting and reselling if you're on the fence about going and worried about expenses.

(Yes, yes, I know, damn dirty scalpers and all...but aside from that, the math works.)

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 08:59 AM

I would consider the protoform package except that dinner was actually very fun and well done last year so I want to try it again. At this point I'm probably going to flip the set in the dealer hall and use the proceeds to buy Masterpiece Rodimus and effectively make him my personal convention exclusive

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 09:49 AM

QUOTE(Yertle @ Feb 1 2011, 05:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would consider the protoform package except that dinner was actually very fun and well done last year so I want to try it again. At this point I'm probably going to flip the set in the dealer hall and use the proceeds to buy Masterpiece Rodimus and effectively make him my personal convention exclusive

That sounds like a decent plan.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 11:11 PM

Last year's dinner was great, but I can't say I had a lot of fun at 2009's Paramount party. If it's offered again this year, I may have second thoughts about spending the fifty bucks or whatever.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 11:48 PM

QUOTE(Sean Whitmore @ Feb 1 2011, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Last year's dinner was great, but I can't say a had a lot of fun at 2009's Paramount party. If it's offered again this year, I may have second thoughts about spending the fifty bucks or whatever.

I'd definitely pass. Glad to get my picture with Weird Al, but the rest was a waste of my time.

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 12:01 AM

I got to meet Al, I enjoyed hanging around the Paramount lot in the dark, I liked the quick tour, and it was fun to see a few minutes of the movie and the appearances by Peter Cullen, Tyrese, Michael Bay and the "Autobots." The food was nothing special, and the concert I could've done without entirely.

I hope they don't do the same thing again this year, because it'd just be a rerun, but I liked it the first time.

As for going without the toys, I didn't love the toys in 2009, and I'd just been laid off so I sure wasn't keeping anything I didn't love. I had a good time at the convention, and sold the exclusives. I didn't make a ton of bank, but I covered my admission, a few dealer-room purchases, and a couple of lunches. This year, since I'm not into Animated, I'll probably end up doing the same.

But I'm definitely going. It's just across town!

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 04:03 AM

This year's dinner will probably be a hall of fame as well. I could see them inducting Bay just to get him to make an appearance and screen some of the movie maybe (unless he's on a press junket or something). That would be awesome just for the outcry....

Still, I think going for the full package and then selling or trading the exclusives is the way to go. Dealers had a good experience the last time the convention was in LA, so I bet there will be lots there. Plus, it seems to be a popular box set this year, so unloading it to at least break even should be easy.

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 12:46 PM

I had a lot of fun at 2009's, but once again, it was just the friends that made it fun. We sat around acting/dancing like idiots while singing along to Stan Bush.

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 01:09 PM

Unless it's announced that there's going to be a fourth movie, I'd imagine this year is going to be the last truly ginormous Botcon. 2012 will see a return back to smaller venues and smaller attendance---not necessarily a bad thing.
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