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@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

exactly.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:21 AM)

Besides the fact that it's all silly sci-fi scenarios, you can't just experience a memory and feel what that person felt since you have your own set of perceptual biases by which to judge the event

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

We already have something like that. It's called history class.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:18 AM)

"But in my ancestor's memory, they stole our orange first!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

"Your great-great-great-great-grandfather stole my great-great-great-great-grandfather's apple! I will kill you for that!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

If we had all our ancestors' knowledge, too many people would just use that as a excuse to continue old grudges for generations.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:13 AM)

I remember the same event a bit differently than my parents do, some things I'm sure happened but they don't remember or vice versa, etc.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:12 AM)

the problem with knowledge and memories is that our brains interpret/fill in gaps so it may not be completely accurate. It wouldn't be much different from autobiographical books/movies.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.


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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:41 PM

Kinda surprised it took this long for this news to surface! Got my Gen 2 Prime in the mail from BBTS today, and as an afterthought, took a look at the instructions.

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It's a similar but different head. He's definitely got the same crest and ears, but with a chinstrap, some kind of nose(?), and Ginrai-like double circles on each side of his head.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:44 PM

(It may be Motormaster's toy head. It's not a perfect match, but it's as good a guess as any, other than "Facemaskless G2 Prime.")

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:47 PM

Totally called Motormaster!
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:48 PM

Hmm I guess that looks a bit like Motormaster's toy head. But how many people remember the toy head? We all remember the bucket head in a frame from the cartoon. Oh well new heads are still fun, and should have been a predictable surprise at this point.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:48 PM

Motormaster? That's just crazy enough to work!

He's even got a sword just like Motormaster does.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:49 PM

if its MM, blud and i called it in private.....

that sounds bad

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:54 PM

Yeah, I thought Motormaster made sense all along since he's somewhat established as a sword-using character. I'd usually be okay with using a more toy-accurate head, but not so much when his "bucket in a box" animation head is a bit more memorable, and you're doing a vaguely Prime-like head remold on a toy that was already a Prime.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:58 PM

QUOTE(J Gargoyle220 @ Jan 19 2011, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I thought Motormaster made sense all along since he's somewhat established as a sword-using character. I'd usually be okay with using a more toy-accurate head, but not so much when his "bucket in a box" animation head is a bit more memorable, and you're doing a vaguely Prime-like head remold on a toy that was already a Prime.

That leaves MM open to be repainted as a store or convention exclusive Ultra Magnus.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:59 PM

After checking TFU.info, I can see why they went with the toy head. The animation model's head is way too plain looking for a modern TF toy, and duplicating the head-in-a-box appearance wouldn't have been possible with this toy.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:00 PM

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:01 PM

Chinstrap? Or frowny face?
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:02 PM

That second frame depicts an old man frowny face on him. I wonder if it's a new character... Crankimus Maximus?

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:04 PM

...that's not Neme-Scourge....

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:05 PM

The head reminds me of either Longrack or interestingly, Cybertron Menasor.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:06 PM

Nemesis Scourge wouldn't need a new head for obvious reasons, I'd think. I wouldn't say its safe to rule him out as a repaint.

I can deal with motormaster. Drag Strip will have company now.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:07 PM

QUOTE(Hand Laser Corg @ Jan 19 2011, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That leaves MM open to be repainted as a store or convention exclusive Ultra Magnus.


Because they... couldn't before? Laser Ultra Magnus was a direct redeco of Laser Prime, unless you mean you'd want them to go with a head without a faceplate to resemble Magnus' more iconic face more. Scourge was also a direct redeco, so I'm not sure why that should come up in this discussion either...


QUOTE(Hornet @ Jan 19 2011, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
After checking TFU.info, I can see why they went with the toy head. The animation model's head is way too plain looking for a modern TF toy, and duplicating the head-in-a-box appearance wouldn't have been possible with this toy.


Eh, I can see where you'd need a very specific transformation scheme to use the "box" thing, but they probably could have come up with some kind of a bucket head that wasn't too much like Megatron. These guys make heads all the time.

Either way, hopefully the final head will be nice and distinct.

Edited by J Gargoyle220, 19 January 2011 - 05:07 PM.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:12 PM

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.... Well, FunPub. Ball's in your court to give me a new Scourge.

Wouldn't Motormaster be close enough already, color-wise?
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:13 PM

Motormaster/Motor Master would work! It kind of explains why PCC Huffer's repaint was named Crank Case instead of Motor Master or even Menasor if they plan on using either name for this recolor, especially since PCC Crank Case's super-mode head is a dead-ringer for Menasor, and he turns into a truck!

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(SpinOut! @ Jan 19 2011, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
.... Well, FunPub. Ball's in your court to give me a new Scourge.

Wouldn't Motormaster be close enough already, color-wise?


I can see making the argument that they'd be a little too similar to justify getting both characters out of the mold, but saying they're close enough to be each other on some level is more of a stretch.

Depending on how the mold can be laid out, and how the highlight colors and details are used, they could be very different even though black and gray are main colors on both.

Edited by J Gargoyle220, 19 January 2011 - 05:26 PM.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:27 PM

QUOTE(Sprocket @ Jan 19 2011, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(SpinOut! @ Jan 19 2011, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
.... Well, FunPub. Ball's in your court to give me a new Scourge.

Wouldn't Motormaster be close enough already, color-wise?


That's like saying "Wouldn't Camshaft be close enough to be Bluestreak", or some other silver car.

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