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@  2017 : (17 October 2017 - 05:56 PM)

It scared me!

@  Kalidor : (17 October 2017 - 05:42 PM)

Yes - here is more information - https://www.battleforthenet.com/

@  Darth Gonzo : (17 October 2017 - 05:36 PM)

Hello?

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:39 PM)

Yeah, it's the Allspark.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 October 2017 - 04:35 PM)

Okay, so it is the allspark doing it, and not some piece of malware I need to run a system scan over, that's basically all I wanted to know.

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:34 PM)

If, say, Hillary or Bernie was president, we'd have a chance, but with the current administration... We're pretty much hugged.

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:32 PM)

I don't know why we're even bothering; there's no way in hell a GOP-controlled congress would listen to common proles like us.

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:32 PM)

Yeah, so did I.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 October 2017 - 04:19 PM)

Okay, so I just got a pop up telling me I need to call congress about the FCC killing net neutrality. Anyone else get that?

@  Dracula : (17 October 2017 - 09:45 AM)

I'd probably use a primer coat on either of them.

@  unluckiness : (17 October 2017 - 07:21 AM)

Wonder if Overboard or Crashbash would be easier to paint over. Generally dark colors are harder but then again, screaming fuschia seems like it'd be difficult to cover too.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 October 2017 - 02:46 PM)

Damn, the shoutbox won't accept those characters. I mean "open-mid back unrounded vowel" on Wikipedia.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 October 2017 - 02:46 PM)

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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 October 2017 - 02:45 PM)

@Bass X0 Ha, I think some Asian accents of English, that mispronunciation would be considered standard, as those accents lack [ʌ].

@  MEDdMI : (16 October 2017 - 12:08 PM)

She's the last thing you hear before your doom.

@  Noideaforaname : (15 October 2017 - 07:34 PM)

The cat can talk?!

@  MEDdMI : (15 October 2017 - 06:30 PM)

TMM's first cat was Cookie b/c that's the first word he said when he saw her

@  Bass X0 : (15 October 2017 - 05:34 PM)

Reminds me of when my nephew was one year old and my sister got him a puppy. He couldn't say puppy properly and it sounded like poppy, so Poppy is what they called her.

@  Arazyr : (15 October 2017 - 02:36 PM)

Yeah. I thought it had some interesting informational articles too.

@  Bass X0 : (15 October 2017 - 01:59 PM)

does anyone else miss the ToyFare magazine? I just read it for the pictures and jokes rather than using it as a serious guide for buying and selling toys.

@  Arazyr : (15 October 2017 - 09:21 AM)

Uncle Bobby Peach, baby! Uncle Bobby Peach!

@  Arazyr : (15 October 2017 - 09:21 AM)

Last night, playing Mario Kart with my daughter, I misread Baby Peach as "Bobby Peach".

@  Onyxstrike : (15 October 2017 - 09:03 AM)

Yeah, I might've forgotten that the Beast is pretty much just a mindless killing machine. That's pretty much what I get for going off of the TFWiki summaries without having actually read any of it.

@  tffan01 : (15 October 2017 - 08:34 AM)

@Onyxstrike Well, to be fair, the quality of the story aside, Beast Within illustrates the fact that Dinobots are feral in nature, with what would happen if they actually lost control. That's a character flaw in a way, correct? 

@  2017 : (15 October 2017 - 08:21 AM)

Send me a PM if you need help getting to the true ending, also.

@  Strafe : (15 October 2017 - 08:15 AM)

Thinking about quirky robots occupies 30% of my brain's daily processing power. I can't remember birthdays and I never know where my phone is, but it's totally worth it.

@  2017 : (15 October 2017 - 08:03 AM)

Yay, I look forward to your dealings with quirky robots!

@  Strafe : (15 October 2017 - 08:01 AM)

Definitely, I started setting aside funds a month ago for the inevitable Black Friday digital sales in the Playstation and Xbox stores. Going to be ready this year, and that's one of the many games on my list!

@  2017 : (15 October 2017 - 07:30 AM)

Hey Strafe will you ever play Nier: Automata?

@  Onyxstrike : (15 October 2017 - 07:19 AM)

Plus, The Beast Within is overall not a very good story.

@  Onyxstrike : (15 October 2017 - 07:19 AM)

The problem is is that Victory's dreams are meant to prey on the Dinobot's character flaws. For instance, Grimlock downing every Decepticon in his path, but falling for Starscream's begging for mercy schtick, preys on his arrogence. What character flaws does The Beast Within prey on? Nothing. The entire premise of the book was to please the many fans who posed the many hypothetical "What if the Dinobots combined?" scenarios way back when, with a gratuitous death count to boot.

@  Bass X0 : (15 October 2017 - 05:51 AM)

What's wrong with wanting it to be a canon dream sequence?

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 October 2017 - 01:14 PM)

go home bass you are drunk

@  Bass X0 : (14 October 2017 - 12:15 PM)

My fanon is that The Beast Within is a follow up the Marvel UK annual story Victory. In Victory, the Dinobots are trapped within a dream world, unable to wake up - each one having dreams, ending in the Dinobots having another dream then waking up in a comic issue. My fanon is that The Beast Within is their final dream that finally pushes them into waking up.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 October 2017 - 10:25 AM)

As long as that means The Beast Within is still non-canon, I'm fine with it.

@  Locoman : (14 October 2017 - 09:29 AM)

When everything is canon, nothing is.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 October 2017 - 09:25 AM)

The TF multiverse is an arbitrary concept. Whatever an author thinks, goes.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 October 2017 - 05:59 AM)

Trypticon vs Deathsaurer. Make it happen!

@  tffan01 : (14 October 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Going by AVP, is Spider-Man and Zoids comic canon to the TF multiverse???

@  D Immortalis : (14 October 2017 - 12:37 AM)

stop that! we shall never speak of the "Embarassment", 'lest we be punished with more like it! =]

@  Pennpenn : (13 October 2017 - 08:23 PM)

Would the mutant heads have been on the headmasters or on the bodies (sort of like TR Galvatron's "helmet")?

@  Shrug : (13 October 2017 - 08:05 PM)

Alternate reality: Beast Wars mutant heads really took off. Nearly every Transformers since '96 has featured them. The big complaint against the line-wide gimmick in TR isn't being headmasters, it's the lack of mutant heads.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2017 - 07:03 PM)

Car TF molds get made all the time; bat TF molds don't. I feel like that justifies making a new Convobat from a mold configured highly unlike the original.

@  Bass X0 : (13 October 2017 - 05:56 PM)

and yet Mindwipe is good enough to use as Convobat.

@  Shrug : (13 October 2017 - 03:19 PM)

I'm okay with that.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2017 - 03:07 PM)

Takara seems to have decided that the TR Chromedome mold is unsuitable for anyone else besides Chromedome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2017 - 03:07 PM)

*shrug* No 21st century (Macromaster) Nightbeat toy seems to have satisfied a decent number of people, from what I understand.

@  Locoman : (13 October 2017 - 02:57 PM)

You could probably finagle a pretty good Nightbeat body from TR Chromedome, or even a heavy retool of Cogman.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2017 - 02:44 PM)

Nightbeat in particular. Hasbro seems to love him.

@  Shrug : (13 October 2017 - 12:21 PM)

Yeah, they seem to be exploring every possible avenue of G1 now.


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Posted 17 January 2011 - 02:28 PM

Undermine's robot mode is untraditional, but I love it so very very much.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 03:04 PM

QUOTE(Creature SH @ Jan 17 2011, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just don't get why they keep re-releasing these molds, of all things. The robot modes for Backstop and Undermine are some of the worst in recent memory. Backstop is a squatty side-view of a rhino with extra legs, head and an arm growing out of its ass, and Undermine's robot mode actually has less functional arms and head than his alt mode. How does that even begin to make sense?



QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Jan 17 2011, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Undermine's robot mode is untraditional, but I love it so very very much.


I liked him a lot better once I realized that he basically has the same head as Submarauder's pretender shell. In fact, if they redeco'd him in Submarauder's color scheme, I would snatch that up pretty quick.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 03:12 PM

QUOTE(Creature SH @ Jan 17 2011, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just don't get why they keep re-releasing these molds, of all things. The robot modes for Backstop and Undermine are some of the worst in recent memory. Backstop is a squatty side-view of a rhino with extra legs, head and an arm growing out of its ass, and Undermine's robot mode actually has less functional arms and head than his alt mode. How does that even begin to make sense?


Backstop and Undermine are awesome toys. Undermine's redeco Repugnus is even more awesome. Wreckloose, on the other hand.... not so much with the awesome.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 03:30 PM

Dinoshout is awesome too. I liked him and Undermine so much (as they are very different) I bought both instead of just one (which I wasn't buying two of anything besides Master Megatron during Cybertron).

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 03:48 PM

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Wreckloose and Undermine

(Or check out the article on the front page: http://www.allspark....t/view/8338/20/ )


Wreckloose's new colors remind me of BW Iguanus (the first one).

Anyone else get that vibe?


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For example, back in '88 TRU wanted Hasbro to produce some exclusive Joe product for their stores. The end result was the Night Force subset, which consisted of select figures from the previous year's assortment and what "classic" vehicle molds they hadn't yet farmed out to Brazil or India, all of which were redone in black & gray. Thing is, Hasbro's policy of carrying product over for a full release year meant that the original 1987 versions of all those Night Force figures were still shipping to stores. As such, you could have hypothetically had the general release 1987 Falcon figure sitting on the pegs next to his Night Force incarnation.

Given that the auction headings said "TF Club" on them, I'm wondering if these weren't intended as exclusives for general release somewhere. Backstop would, obviously, have to be redecoed as the original decos might still be on the shelves. But the other two haven't seen the light of day in a while. Furthermore, the fact that Backstop's bio has been altered suggests that we might even be looking at a separate character (kinda like how the Target redecoes of the Energon and Cybertron scouts were supposed to be the Movie-verse versions of those characters).
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#46 Chip

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 04:28 PM

Huh. All three of these are new characters. Which means I can repurpose three toys I really like into some universe I actually give a crap about, so that's nice.

People don't like Wreckloose? Maybe it was just due to how much I missed Beast Wars at the time, but I remember him being awesome.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 04:30 PM

QUOTE(Chip @ Jan 17 2011, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Huh. All three of these are new characters. Which means I can repurpose three toys I really like into some universe I actually give a crap about, so that's nice.

People don't like Wreckloose? Maybe it was just due to how much I missed Beast Wars at the time, but I remember him being awesome.


That's because he is awesome. How can a Komodo dragon wearing a battle helmet with moose antlers not be awesome?
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 04:59 PM

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*Edit* Every time I look at this Backstop, the more I want him. Why do I actually have to like that mold despite its countless flaws! icon-fire.gif


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Posted 17 January 2011 - 05:23 PM

I think I see an odd Transmetal Rinox homage in Backstop's colors. Not sure, though.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 05:38 PM

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I think I see an odd Transmetal Rinox homage in Backstop's colors. Not sure, though.


That's what I saw, and why I will buy one. Unless it ends up like that sassin'-frassin' Mini-Con 8-pack in Bulgaria or whatever.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 06:11 PM

Innnnnnnteresting. I will certainly have to get Backstop... and just repurpose the other two.


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Posted 17 January 2011 - 06:17 PM

Frag. I saw the topic and thought of Scout class characters from War For Cybertron :/
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 08:56 PM

I gotta say, I refused to get Backstop back in Cybertron, but after the movie lines I think I want him more than say, Arcee, that f***ing Ratchet mold that won't just melt already, or a few others.

So Wreckloose is getting a re-release (with blue Cyber Key. That looks better.), eh? That makes me happy because he's one of the few TFs I regret selling when I had to thin out my collection a few years back.

As for Undermine, he's still one of my favorites from Cybertron, but I wish he'd get a new paint job or they'd re-release the red version instead so I have a good excuse to buy another one.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 09:24 PM

yeah if Wreckloose had had new colours I'd have been all over that... the mold is great ... like a homage to Transmetal 2s but... BACKSTOP? sorry no
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 11:27 PM

Wreckloose always remided me of a Beast Wars Basic.

As far as what line they belong to: I was under the impression that Hasbro was replacing "Transformers" with RtS. But since these 3 have no rubsigns, they do not fit into RtS. They are definately not Generations, as Generations has no Scout Class and "Generations" is not on the package.

I keep a personal checklist that is catagorized by year, line and price point and I am dumping these 3 under RtS with an asterisk by their names.

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 01:20 AM

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Wreckloose always remided me of a Beast Wars Basic.

As far as what line they belong to: I was under the impression that Hasbro was replacing "Transformers" with RtS. But since these 3 have no rubsigns, they do not fit into RtS. They are definately not Generations, as Generations has no Scout Class and "Generations" is not on the package.

I keep a personal checklist that is catagorized by year, line and price point and I am dumping these 3 under RtS with an asterisk by their names.

Actually, these would probably fall into the same category as the minicon repaints we got a few months ago
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More than likely, they are intended for "secondary markets" and won't appear at mass retail (unless Walmart gets a bunch in for a Christmas push like this year). If anything, I'd classify them as "non-traditional" releases and move on (especially before people here start arguing the schematics about the non-existent differences between TRansformers product lines)

I AM a bit surprised to see Backstop get a new color set. My understanding was that these "dollar store" repacks were put together by what was available at whichever factory Hasbro was using when they needed to be made, but Backstop shows some development work went into him. That and the fact all three got new bios is very interesting.

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 02:48 AM

Heh. Undermine undermines.

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 06:10 AM

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Wreckloose always remided me of a Beast Wars Basic.


Is it too much to hope for actual Beast Wars basics?

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 07:12 AM

Yes they're long gone.

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 08:45 AM

Yay, Undermine is back!

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