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@  Dekafox : (19 February 2020 - 06:14 PM)

Count Zero?

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 February 2020 - 03:53 PM)

Oh boy, here we go.

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:34 PM)

Or do Japan's cultural values vary depending on exactly who you're trying to shut down?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:33 PM)

Could it be that, perhaps, these different cultural values might lead to a different approach seeming appropriate?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:32 PM)

Hm. Back when we were arguing about the Legends comic, I seem to recall being repeatedly told that Japan had different cultural values than the US (and therefore anyone who had a problem with anything at all was wrong to voice that opinion ever).

@  fourteenwings : (19 February 2020 - 07:23 AM)

Plus, as much as I hate to admit it, every single anime character is built to suit the audience's tastes so they buy more merch/do other things that allow $$$ to flow in the production committees direction, so the authenticity is certainly not for representation's sake.

@  fourteenwings : (19 February 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Both those anime air at midnight and are aimed at a very specific audience in a whole other media landscape. Major projects have press releases about almost everything, and there are groups just waiting to pat anybody on the back for doing what they want (GLAAD, HRC, etc)

@  B-Fox : (19 February 2020 - 03:16 AM)

It's funny that a friggin' anime about zombie idols and an anime about a school of anthropomorphic animals can have really positive trans characters WITHOUT a press release about their inclusion in the series prior to the episodes airing or having the creators announcing it on social media and patting themselves on the back for doing a thing.

@  TriBlurr : (18 February 2020 - 10:26 PM)

Vegan meat needs bacon

@  Paladin : (18 February 2020 - 08:43 PM)

vegan meat must taste delicious. they're grass-fed and regularly exercised....

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 06:57 PM)

Vegans are better than kids if you don't talk to them. They'll keep the lawn trimmed anyway.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Do you want vegans? Because that's how you get vegans.

@  CORVUS : (18 February 2020 - 04:33 PM)

Hook up your sprinkler system to a canister of healthy organic carrot-juice. The kids won't be able to get off your lawn fast enough.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2020 - 03:59 PM)

Just use the hose.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 03:52 PM)

Ask bing. It'll be a FAR more effective answer.

@  TrnsfrmGod : (18 February 2020 - 03:26 PM)

Google, how do I get those durned kids off my lawn?

@  TrnsfrmGod : (18 February 2020 - 03:26 PM)

Please ignore.  Old man here apparently doesn't know the difference between the "Search" field and the "Shoutbox" field.

 

Also doesn't know how to delete from the shoutbox

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 07:33 AM)

Huhn. Penny arcade was right, the division 2 is literally 3 dollars...

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 11:05 PM)

Oh, Wicked Cool Toys got the Halo toy license. This is a big year for Jazwares

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 07:02 PM)

iTunes/Apple TV has the complete Cowboy Bebop series for just $5!

@  fourteenwings : (17 February 2020 - 12:41 AM)

The Samsung Galaxy B-TOOM!

@  Paladin : (16 February 2020 - 07:20 PM)

business is booming.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 February 2020 - 06:49 PM)

SAmsung has you covered. Exploding phones.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Modern problems require modern solutions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Japan seems to have a tradition of murder things where cellphones facilitate the killing instead. Like King's Game and Doubt.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 05:17 PM)

Or there's just conveniently no reception, or all of their phones are dead at the same time. Or they're just stupid and forget about them.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 04:41 PM)

Now the slasher villain has to go and knock over the nearest cell tower before butchering horny teenagers.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 03:54 PM)

Think of all the horror and mystery movies that involve the bad guys cutting the phone line. Now think about how many people don't even have a land line to cut anymore.

@  Telly : (16 February 2020 - 03:47 PM)

its like that scene in commando. the bad guy has to get to a phone to call the big bad to tell him arnold isnt on the plane. that wouldnt happen today

@  Rycochet : (16 February 2020 - 03:18 PM)

Watching early episodes of the x-files will make you feel super old once you start to notice the techology they use, and the technology they lack.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 February 2020 - 01:00 PM)

This guy.

@  Roddie Luver : (15 February 2020 - 10:55 PM)

Hey

@  Kalidor : (14 February 2020 - 03:01 PM)

The ones that get me are the "Uploaded 12 years ago" ones

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 February 2020 - 02:49 PM)

Makes you feel old, don't it?

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 February 2020 - 02:38 PM)

While browsing Youtube vids I read these comments: 'The X Files is such an underrated show' and another 'Brent Spiner is a underrated actor' I want to punch something.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 February 2020 - 12:16 PM)

Besides: cupid freaks me out. "Find someone to love, or I'll SHOOT YOU".

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 February 2020 - 12:11 PM)

It's just the day before Cheap Chocolate Day.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 February 2020 - 12:08 PM)

Meh, just more game time.

@  Paladin : (14 February 2020 - 10:55 AM)

Valentine's day. Bummer.

@  Otaku : (14 February 2020 - 10:41 AM)

So is that an occasion for congratulations or condolences, Telly?  I see it as a good thing, but that is a matter of personal preference; easier for me to keep straight who is who when the names don't change. XP

@  Telly : (14 February 2020 - 12:48 AM)

damn. ive been going by "telly" on here for nearly 14 years...

@  TM2-Megatron : (11 February 2020 - 08:06 PM)

I've seen it. It didn't really deliver on the title

@  Paladin : (11 February 2020 - 05:28 PM)

we don't need to see that. we're living it.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 February 2020 - 03:42 PM)

Anyone seen an old British movie called 'The Earth dies screaming' it's like a Doctor Who serial minus the Doctor.

@  TriBlurr : (09 February 2020 - 11:58 AM)

Needs more zone defense. Call Scrapper

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 February 2020 - 11:29 AM)

MORE POINTS FOR BLITZWING!

@  Donocropolis : (09 February 2020 - 09:33 AM)

MP-7 Thundercracker recovers....he's at the 40....the 20....AND HE SCORES!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (08 February 2020 - 10:37 PM)

Reserved for Masterpiece Kup.

@  Sabrblade : (08 February 2020 - 09:49 PM)

MP-10 Convoy redecoed.

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 February 2020 - 06:56 AM)

MP-9 Rodimus self-destructed.


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#41 (Deactivated) mignash

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 09:06 AM

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Isn't this the point of the TFWiki? I mean, if everything was just on Wikipedia, why have our own separate Wiki?

Wikipedia simply can't have a page for every tiny remote thing that ever happened or existed. It just isn't realistic for numerous reasons. Wherever they draw the line, someone is unhappy. They are a great resource but it is best they do not become more omnipresent than they already are.


I think part of the point is the Fun Publications is a growing company, and it might need/deserve some sort of article on a large public forum like Wikipedia, not some little site run by fans for fans. Yes, the DETAILS will be on the fan wiki. I'd like to see some fair article about Fun Pub on Wikipedia some day.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 09:32 AM

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Wikipedia is where you go when you needta learn about something, but you don't really wanna learn about something.

Honestly, Pete, I'd let it go, were I you. Anyone who reaallly wants to find ya's gonna do so without Wikipedantic's help.

(Google search for 'Transformers Timelines' will make the club site top dog once the Wiki article dies forevermore.)


I am not that worried about it as I have read on. I have heard the stories though, and I am just am still surprised that there is a group editing subject matter when they don't actually know the subject matter thoroughly.

Wait. People feel the need to judge what is important with regard to subjects they don't understand and don't care to understand... and you're surprised?

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 10:16 AM

QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 7 2011, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think part of the point is the Fun Publications is a growing company, and it might need/deserve some sort of article on a large public forum like Wikipedia, not some little site run by fans for fans. Yes, the DETAILS will be on the fan wiki. I'd like to see some fair article about Fun Pub on Wikipedia some day.


Wikipedia's answer would be - and rightfully so, in my opinion - that Wikipedia is not a platform to advertise companies and their offerings.

This has been abused in the past (such as arguing against naming brands and product names in purely descriptive contexts in favor of a vague "a popular brand of x"), but the point of a Wikipedia article definitely shouldn't purely be "this product exists and you can buy it".

Edited by Nevermore, 07 January 2011 - 10:17 AM.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 7 2011, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think part of the point is the Fun Publications is a growing company, and it might need/deserve some sort of article on a large public forum like Wikipedia, not some little site run by fans for fans. Yes, the DETAILS will be on the fan wiki. I'd like to see some fair article about Fun Pub on Wikipedia some day.


Wikipedia's answer would be - and rightfully so, in my opinion - that Wikipedia is not a platform to advertise companies and their offerings.

This has been abused in the past (such as arguing against naming brands and product names in purely descriptive contexts in favor of a vague "a popular brand of x"), but the point of a Wikipedia article definitely shouldn't purely be "this product exists and you can buy it".

I don't think the point was "this is why there should be an article" so much as "this is why we'd want there to be an article," in response to some "who cares about Wikipedia anyway?" sentiment.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 10:38 AM

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Thank god for TFWiki.


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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:10 AM

I think that Fun Publications would want some fair article to be there. Of course they cannot write one themselves, but if they have had proper coverage in the media, we can write one.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:13 AM

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I think that Fun Publications would want some fair article to be there. Of course they cannot write one themselves, but if they have had proper coverage in the media, we can write one.

But, again, as to the point a couple of posts up, while it's obvious why FP (and perhaps we) would want an article there, are there really grounds enough for saying that FP is "notable" enough for Wikipedia?

I don't think that the answer is a clear-cut "yes." It may even be a "no."

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 7 2011, 08:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that Fun Publications would want some fair article to be there. Of course they cannot write one themselves, but if they have had proper coverage in the media, we can write one.

But, again, as to the point a couple of posts up, while it's obvious why FP (and perhaps we) would want an article there, are there really grounds enough for saying that FP is "notable" enough for Wikipedia?

I don't think that the answer is a clear-cut "yes." It may even be a "no."


Every single Hasbro Transformer package for the last six years has had their (TCC's) logo on it? So everyone that has bought a Transformer in that time frame (that's a lot of people!) have, even if not aware of it, seen something of FunPub?

That's the largest reason I can think of.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:33 AM

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I think that Fun Publications would want some fair article to be there. Of course they cannot write one themselves, but if they have had proper coverage in the media, we can write one.

But, again, as to the point a couple of posts up, while it's obvious why FP (and perhaps we) would want an article there, are there really grounds enough for saying that FP is "notable" enough for Wikipedia?

I don't think that the answer is a clear-cut "yes." It may even be a "no."


Every single Hasbro Transformer package for the last six years has had their (TCC's) logo on it? So everyone that has bought a Transformer in that time frame (that's a lot of people!) have, even if not aware of it, seen something of FunPub?

That's the largest reason I can think of.
I don't want to push the point too far, but I'm not sure how that makes the club (and it would be the club, not FP, per se, it seems to me) notable to the non-TF fan Wikipedia audience.


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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:39 AM

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I think that Fun Publications would want some fair article to be there. Of course they cannot write one themselves, but if they have had proper coverage in the media, we can write one.

But, again, as to the point a couple of posts up, while it's obvious why FP (and perhaps we) would want an article there, are there really grounds enough for saying that FP is "notable" enough for Wikipedia?

I don't think that the answer is a clear-cut "yes." It may even be a "no."


Every single Hasbro Transformer package for the last six years has had their (TCC's) logo on it? So everyone that has bought a Transformer in that time frame (that's a lot of people!) have, even if not aware of it, seen something of FunPub?

That's the largest reason I can think of.
I don't want to push the point too far, but I'm not sure how that makes the club (and it would be the club, not FP, per se, it seems to me) notable to the non-TF fan Wikipedia audience.


As I said, "largest reason I can think of." I wasn't evaluating whether or not it was a significant enough reason.

That is by far the largest source of exposure to non-TF fans that FunPub has ever gotten. Every single figure. For six years. Trying to do the math on how many of those little logos are out there is mind-boggling!

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:42 AM

Another thought... You realize that we have produced more toys than what have been sold in several other toy lines via Hasbro?

This isn't about "advertising" or "promoting" us. I don't need Wikipedia for that. It is simply that Timelines is a franchise that has been around for five years now, going on its sixth, and that clearly needs to be recognized.

It is a staple within the community and has been advertised and marketed to the general public through comic offerings, toy offerings and conventions that have taken place.

We have sold Tens of Thousands of items with the "Timelines logo" on it to both TF fans and the general public.

I am not going to lose any sleep over this, but the rationale that this is NOT something that should have a page is beyond me...

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:52 AM

At least a character INSPIRED by Timelines is on wikipedia icon-op.gif

http://en.wikipedia....ormers_Animated

http://en.wikipedia....ormers_Animated

Edited by [email protected], 07 January 2011 - 11:54 AM.


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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:00 PM

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At least a character INSPIRED by Timelines is on wikipedia icon-op.gif

http://en.wikipedia....ormers_Animated

http://en.wikipedia....ormers_Animated


Enjoy it while you can: if it's not a character like Optimus or Starscream it probably means the notability freaks just haven't gotten to it yet.

Edited by -Blackout-, 07 January 2011 - 12:00 PM.


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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:24 PM

If you think about it, Wikipedia's rules create a paradox.

On one hand, experts in a field are preferred over amateurs and self-appointed "experts" because they know the subject better, can separate fact from myth and know what's relevant within the subject field and what's not.

On the other hand, experts in a field are biased and too deeply invested in the field to objectively tell what is relevant about the subject to a general audience and what isn't.

But then, that in turn opens a can of worms where people decide what others consider "relevant". Simply put, objectively estimating the interests of the masses based on one's own personal preferences.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:44 PM

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Another thought... You realize that we have produced more toys than what have been sold in several other toy lines via Hasbro?

Well, I can't say I'd push for a separate "Transformers: Armada" or "Transformers: Energon" entry, either, comes to that about lines....

(For what it's worth, I'm not opposed to anything that folks want to try to get put on Wikipedia. I just don't think that most of it is worth the effort to actively support.)

Edited by G.B.Blackrock, 07 January 2011 - 12:45 PM.


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Posted 07 January 2011 - 01:30 PM

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If you think about it, Wikipedia's rules create a paradox.

On one hand, experts in a field are preferred over amateurs and self-appointed "experts" because they know the subject better, can separate fact from myth and know what's relevant within the subject field and what's not.

On the other hand, experts in a field are biased and too deeply invested in the field to objectively tell what is relevant about the subject to a general audience and what isn't.

But then, that in turn opens a can of worms where people decide what others consider "relevant". Simply put, objectively estimating the interests of the masses based on one's own personal preferences.


It's only a paradox when framed as the false dilemma above. Give people the proper ability to be reflective and putting experts and non-experts in dialog with one another would be the corrective.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 03:38 PM

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It's only a paradox when framed as the false dilemma above. Give people the proper ability to be reflective and putting experts and non-experts in dialog with one another would be the corrective.


Expert: This is relevant.
Non-expert: This is irrelevant, I don't care about it.
Expert: It is very relevant for the topic.
Non-expert: Not to me.

Who gets the final say? Majority vote?


Also, who would you say is objectively a Transformers expert?

Edited by Nevermore, 07 January 2011 - 03:39 PM.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 03:45 PM

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BTW - While Timelines may be gone or Greatly reduced, there is no reason we can't collect sources for anentirely new page about Fun Publications, which could include all things Fun Pub does, including the TFclub and Joeclub. Of course we better collect a big list of sources for it or it will be deleted quick.


What bothered me was whoever is deleting the page was unaware that the comics were released through Diamond. I mean, is this a Transformers person? We have been releasing through Diamond for 5 years, are always featured on numerous websites, TF and non-TF, announcing the solicitation, numerous sites actually selling the book and are listed on the Top 300 and/or Top 25 small publishers.

A simple search would have yielded all of this info:
http://www.comicsbea...-november-2010/

http://www.tfarchive...s/idw/sales.php

http://comicbooks.ab...d100nov06_3.htm

And of course

http://www.icv2.com/...news/16618.html


I added that Comics Beat source to the article I found on a list page that mentioned Fun Publications and started trying to add more information about Fun Pub. Of course I have no idea about what Fun Pub does with GI joe or any other properties it has.

http://en.wikipedia....Fun_Publicatons

Hey guys, anyone want to spend any energy finding more reliable sources for the Fun Pub article, or do you want to spend the next couple of posts pointlessly complaining about Wikipedia policy?

Edited by mignash, 07 January 2011 - 03:51 PM.


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Posted 07 January 2011 - 03:48 PM

As the person who got the Timelines page deleted, I'd like to say some things.

I always saw Timelines as an "exclusive" thing, meaning that fewer people will be familiar with it, compared to other Transformers toylines. It's not like you can expect to simply pick up any Timelines figure at your local Toys r Us. Plus, the only non-Benson Yee review for a Timelines comic (well, the only one that was used for the article) mentioned that non transfans should not even bother with Timelines. So, all in all, it does seem terribly unsuitable for a general purpose encyclopedia. By the way, why would anybody use WP for Transformers research anyway? It seems that Wikipedia's TF project isn't something people should take seriously.

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Also, the page was frequently sabotaged and harassed by tfwiki and Allspark member Blackout, who runs a series of sock puppet accounts on Wikipedia.


No, the page wasn't "frequently sabotaged and harassed" by Blackout/Editor XXV/Divebomb/whatever. He did do some stuff, but I don't recall him attacking the Timelines page. In fact, if you look at the first "Articles for Deletion" page for Timelines, he voted to "keep" the article. If he just stayed out of it, the article would have been deleted even more quickly.

Also, I don't see where someone would get the impression that Shattered Glass has "become a pop culture staple". There doesn't seem to be any Shattered Glass memes on Knowyourmeme.com, and the TV Tropes page does mention that most people aren't even aware that some of the stories on the fan club website are set in the SG universe.
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One thing that needs to be recognized. Wikipedia is a generic encyclopedia. To non-Transformers fans, is a character like Slag notable? I'm not going to say that it's not, but I can easily see why most character-specific entries are being considered "not notable enough" for such a generic site.


That's how it works. As Khajidha explained it over at WP. Although it seems that Khajidha wasn't even sure that Optimus Prime was notable.

Also, back on the Timelines topic, see this. Seriously, the fact that there are many, many, many things that Wikipedia won't cover is one of the main reasons other wikis exist. If not the biggest reason.

Edited by Item42, 07 January 2011 - 04:26 PM.


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Posted 07 January 2011 - 04:22 PM

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Also, I don't see where someone would get the impression that Shattered Glass has "become a pop culture staple". There doesn't seem to be any Shattered Glass memes on Knowyourmeme.com, and the TV Tropes page does mention that most people aren't even aware that some of the stories on the fan club website are set in the SG universe.

Seeing as how I'm the one that wrote that, I should explain:

People are certainly aware of the Shattered Glass concept/universe in general; there's a fair amount of fanart devoted to it on DA, at least, even from people who I don't think have read the actual fiction outside of the BotCon comic (since it was the only thing available at mainstream stores). On top of that, I've seen quite a few people express interest in getting to read said fiction (if it wasn't only available through joining a club many people see as a bit too pricey, especially outside the US).

However, since many people haven't read the actual prose or non-BotCon comics, a lot of the art isn't actually canon-based. It's more stuff like SG Animated, or fan conversions of G1 characters (like SG Prowl or SG Skyfire, who obviously don't exist (yet, anyway) in the canon SG).

Make of that what you will. Personally I find Wikipedia's rules kind of moronic, especially their notability guidelines. If someone's interested in learning about a subject at all, they generally want some kind of easy access to all information about it. And they also should accept that for niche concepts, the fansites and industry sites ARE the knowledgeable sources. Places like the New York Times ain't going to write about comics or toys, but that doesn't mean that comics and toys are a subject that nobody's interested in. It just means those types of concerns have their own dedicated news sites separate from the mainstream media.

(Pat Lee's page is probably the best example of this idiocy, IMHO, where they won't accept information that comes directly from the mouths of people with direct experience with his business practices, just because it wasn't written about in the "right" places. I mean, dur, it's completely brainless.)

If they're really bent on only having a very general coverage of fannish topics, they should at least offer more obvious links to fansites and fanwikis where people can get more detailed information.